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Hi, I am having trouble with my Jasjar and it is really affecting me! The problem is that when I am talking over the phone the person on the other side complains that they can't listen to all the things I say, they loose about 1 of 15 words I speak. I have tried using this on many coverage areas, different hours, with Bluetooth and WiFi turned off, etc... I am have installed and tested on my device the shipped ROM and the ROM version 1.13.53 with Radio 1.03.01 Ext ROM version 1.13.137. (I can't try any other ROM because they will cancel my warranty if I do so) I took it to a Support Center of my Mobile Phone Service Provider (Telcel in Mexico) and they tried with other SIM cards (other phone lines and 3.0, 3.5 Volts version) that didn't helped, they told me to use it in the Band PCS1900 and that also didn't fixed it.
So I want to know if my Jasjar is deffective or if this is a well known issue that will be fixed in the next Jasjar ROM Upgrade or that Microsoft will fix for the Windows Mobile 2005 AKU2, or if this issue will never be fixed for this device. Or of my device is faulty?
It has done this since I bought it from Expansys.
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
Rodrigo Gonzalez Balsa
Microphone AGC
Try enabling the Microphone AGC in the Settings > System menu. It May help. If it is already enable then try disabling it and see if it make any difference.
Thank you, yes I already tried this Enabled and Dissabled, it also didn't helped :?
Anyway I think this setting only affects when you are Recording a note or something.
Rodrigo Gonzalez
the mic of the universal is to the left of the instrument. try and flip the instrument so you can talk into the mic. Just ensure you keep track where the mic is when speaking, i think that should slove the problem.
Yes, thank you zillocx I tried that the first 2 days when people started complaining that they were loosing some of the words I speak, I thought I needed more time to get used to the Jasjar, but after 2 weeks I have convinced myself that this is some kind of bug or something?
I have already tried using a Bluetooth headset (Nokia HS-11W) and is the same thing. I think they listen to me clearly when I am not using it since my Mobile Phone Provider changed my SIM card for a 3 Volts version.
This is weird and I don't want to return this unit because I have always encouraged people to get devices like the Jasjar instead of their normal phones and a PDA, but now they are proving me wrong!
SOLVED!
Hi, after many months and sending my Jasjar back to warranty without success of getting my problem solved...
I finally have 2 solutions for it:
1) With a Tested and Approved ROM from i-mate-> Rom version: 1.13.53
Radio version: 1.03.01 and ExtROM version: 1.13.137
I managed to solve this problem if I change my carrier, here in Mexico 2 companies offer GSM (Telcel and Movistar) if I connect to Movistar the problem dissapears, but they have few antennas.
2) With the new i-mate Test ROM version: 1.30.68 WWE
Radio: 1.09.00 and ExtROM: 1.30.153 WWE
The problem is solved without changing to another carrier! But! If I install Microsoft’s .net Compact Framework 2.0 the problem returns.
Any ideas what is going on here?
Is anybody is reading this?
Hi, well let me update you and tell you what I have found. I changed from Carrier and everything is working fine now, but yesterday I decided to open my Jasjar to see if there is any chance of improving the original antenna, I opened my device with the HTC Service Manual (There is a copy on the FTP). To my surprise I discovered that the Universal has 3 atennas for the GSM/UMTS Service (I don't know what is the purpose of each one), and my Jasjar is missing one of them!!!! :shock: And a conductive tape (are they really important???)
I couldn't believe it because my Jasjar was returned to warranty at Dubai, they changed the motherboard but they didn't realized that it was missing one antenna! Are they blind????? Maybe they are opening devices very cool with their sunglasses on 8) !!!!!!! :evil:
So I decided to make an antenna for it with the antenna of a Motorola phone I used, and my Jasjar worked perfectly with my past carrier (I haven't been able to cancel the contract so I am paying 2 contracts thanks to i-mate :evil: )
So my question is do anyone of you knows the purpose of each antenna?
What should I do, should I contact i-mate and tell them they are blind and that I will sew them because of all I have been through?
Thank you very much and I hope this time you will help me guys!
Here are the pictures:
Not sure why there are 3 antenea but I can gaurentee that they will declare warranty void as soon as you say you've been poking around with it. Is it not possible to make an aeriel? By the way the conductive tape justs looks like a screening shield which could be replicated with some aluminium foil.
3 Antenna maybe because,...
Bluetooth,
WiFi,
GSM??
Re: Is anybody is reading this?
bogusiano said:
Hi, well let me update you and tell you what I have found. I changed from Carrier and everything is working fine now, but yesterday I decided to open my Jasjar to see if there is any chance of improving the original antenna, I opened my device with the HTC Service Manual (There is a copy on the FTP). To my surprise I discovered that the Universal has 3 atennas for the GSM/UMTS Service (I don't know what is the purpose of each one), and my Jasjar is missing one of them!!!! :shock: And a conductive tape (are they really important???)
I couldn't believe it because my Jasjar was returned to warranty at Dubai, they changed the motherboard but they didn't realized that it was missing one antenna! Are they blind????? Maybe they are opening devices very cool with their sunglasses on 8) !!!!!!! :evil:
So I decided to make an antenna for it with the antenna of a Motorola phone I used, and my Jasjar worked perfectly with my past carrier (I haven't been able to cancel the contract so I am paying 2 contracts thanks to i-mate :evil: )
So my question is do anyone of you knows the purpose of each antenna?
What should I do, should I contact i-mate and tell them they are blind and that I will sew them because of all I have been through?
Thank you very much and I hope this time you will help me guys!
Here are the pictures:
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Ithing the missing one is GSM antena ... because wifi antena is locator on the side of your device
GSM Antenna
Yes you are right guys, it is definitely a GSM Antenna, I think it handles the outgoing data on a call (my voice), but only on some types of networks, because with my current operator (Movistar) it doesn't matter the missing antenna, the other person can hear me crystal clear, but no on the Telcel network. I think Telcel network is older, maybe I-mate just "deprecated" this part of the antenna, haha.
I know that I shouldn't have opened my device, but I knew something was interfering my GSM antenna, I thought maybe the wifi and the gsm antenna were very close on my Jasjar and that's why I was having this problems.
I will try to contact I-mate and ask them for the antenna, I hope they at least apologize, because had a lot of problems because of this little piece of metal!!!
I will keep you updated...
Download link?
bogusiano said:
Hi, after many months and sending my Jasjar back to warranty without success of getting my problem solved...
I finally have 2 solutions for it:
1) With a Tested and Approved ROM from i-mate-> Rom version: 1.13.53
Radio version: 1.03.01 and ExtROM version: 1.13.137
I managed to solve this problem if I change my carrier, here in Mexico 2 companies offer GSM (Telcel and Movistar) if I connect to Movistar the problem dissapears, but they have few antennas.
2) With the new i-mate Test ROM version: 1.30.68 WWE
Radio: 1.09.00 and ExtROM: 1.30.153 WWE
The problem is solved without changing to another carrier! But! If I install Microsoft’s .net Compact Framework 2.0 the problem returns.
Any ideas what is going on here?
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Could someone direct me as to where I can download these ROMs? I've been looking to no avail..
thank you.
Awesome Find!!
bogusiano said:
Hi, well let me update you and tell you what I have found. I changed from Carrier and everything is working fine now, but yesterday I decided to open my Jasjar to see if there is any chance of improving the original antenna, I opened my device with the HTC Service Manual (There is a copy on the FTP). To my surprise I discovered that the Universal has 3 atennas for the GSM/UMTS Service (I don't know what is the purpose of each one), and my Jasjar is missing one of them!!!! :shock: And a conductive tape (are they really important???)
I couldn't believe it because my Jasjar was returned to warranty at Dubai, they changed the motherboard but they didn't realized that it was missing one antenna! Are they blind????? Maybe they are opening devices very cool with their sunglasses on 8) !!!!!!! :evil:
So I decided to make an antenna for it with the antenna of a Motorola phone I used, and my Jasjar worked perfectly with my past carrier (I haven't been able to cancel the contract so I am paying 2 contracts thanks to i-mate :evil: )
So my question is do anyone of you knows the purpose of each antenna?
What should I do, should I contact i-mate and tell them they are blind and that I will sew them because of all I have been through?
Thank you very much and I hope this time you will help me guys!
Here are the pictures:
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DUDE!!! YOU ARE THE MAN!! People have been complaining about me not receiving calls, so I finally started to investigate and after a long search stumbled across this post!! I opened mine up and bingo, I am missing this antenna as well.
I'm going to try to fabricate a replacement and see if things go better. Someone ought to pin this post or put it somewhere obvious as this is a big find!!
Thanks again dude!
UPDATE:
OK... I've been trying to fabricate a new antenna using some sheet aluminum, but it is too flimsy to keep the contact. Also bloody hard to cut to the right size (took me four attempts) and finally succeeded size-wise after measuring with a micrometer.
Can anyone please suggest an alternative? Is there a place to get a replacement antenna with all 3 in place?
New Antenna, no help...
I managed to make a more sturdy antenna using pop can metal. I ensured that the contacts were actually conductive and placed it in. However, I don't see a noticeable improvement in signal strength.
May I suggest that the 3 antenna's are for EGSM (900), DCS1800 and PCS1900? Presumably, that would also explain the different sizes in the plates...I'd say the largest one is 900, the second largest is 1800 and the smallest is 1900.
The GSM mode sets EGSM and DCS1800 which are the modes I used. The second largest antenna is the one that appears to be missing. I'm going to try service on PCS1900, but I don't think my carrier uses it.
Still looking for an OEM antenna if anyone can direct me there.
A quick question guys, if I SIM + CID unlock the HTC P3300 and then install an HTC Rom, will it have WiFi?
Or is the actual WiFi hardware removed from the Compact 3?
Would really like to know.
Thanks in advance.
D.C
i've got another question.Do you know what is 9th button on top for?Its name is search.try 2 use it instead of messing forum. And answer is no, hw is on t-**** compact 3 removed
There is inside picture of TMCIII, wifi aerial is missing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35879&d=1174679272 .
Dead Cell said:
Or is the actual WiFi hardware removed from the Compact 3?
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That depends where you live. In most countries Wifi is disabled and cannot be enabled just by changing the software (there is no hardware to enable). Only in a few countries (i.e. the Netherlands) Wifi is enabled and fully functional.
Hauraaaah for Holland
cosinusx said:
There is inside picture of TMCIII, wifi aerial is missing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35879&d=1174679272 .
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Hi l took a look at your picture link ,the aerial is a sheet of metal which can be fiited on, if thats all thats missing to get wifi - it only strenghtens the rx/tx quality of the incoming and outgoing signal (using a link to main board via soldering)
most articles i have read have been adament that it is an onboard chip that is missing if i get a more info i keep you posted
Hi,
I have got a t-mobile compact III from the UK,
is there any way of finding out if the wifi chip is missing or just the antenna is missing or nothing is missing?
Hey!
I got a german MDA Compact III, CID Unlocked and german O2 Windows Mobile 6 ROM installed and running flawlessly.... There is NO WiFi enabled, so i guess its a little more missing than just the antenna. I'd say the whole chip simply isn't there, (or deactivated) if it was, i at least would have the option of switching WiFi on.
If you want WiFi, better exchange your device
for an orbit
orbit is supposed to be more sleek as well, not a bad thought.
Hello,
I have a T moblie compact III, if I un-lock the CID can I flash a new ROM of wm6 and get wifi working ?
If so could you point me at where and how to find the ROM's
Thanks for any help
Martyn
Only one chance how to make WiFi working on T-MO Mda C3 is to buy microSD-IO wifi card( if any exist - i doubt) unless You have one of the first from Netherlands. There is no WiFi chip inside MDA C3. (you can say thans to T-Mobile)
thanks !
I though T moblie would not want there user's installing skype and chatting for free.....
How can I tell if its got the wifi chip set? I have had it for about a year
thanks martyn
Hello, i have a big problem regarding a ORBIT2 from O2. The guys at O2 dont understand my problem , so i hope as the last hope you can help me. As you know the Orbit2 is the same as HTC cruise, o2 has no sim-lock here in germany. I use a sim-card from another telephone company and all works fine. I have problems with the sim-access profile. In my car i have a Nokia 616 Bluetooth hands free unit built in which supports sim- access profile. If i try to establish a connection between the orbit2 and my in car unit it works to the point as they handle out the password. After i confirm the given password from the handsfree device it tells me that the simcard i not valid. Is in the orbit 2 a lock on the bluetooth sim access profile which means that only o2 Simcards are allowed for the Sim access ? Can you please help me, because here is no one which understands my problem. Maybe i can have another firmware to solve the problem,the phone itself is simlock-free.
I dont understand why it is only possible with o2-sim cards to have the sim access functionality.
Can anybody help me?
Greetings Wolfman-Jack
Sorry I don't have an answer to your problem; I understand car kits using SAP are quite new.
Could you tell me how well it works with other phones in general, and how much you paid?
I understand the SAP system means the car kit has it's own "phone" but accesses your SIM card to connect to the network?
Hi there,
it works great!
You turn on your ignition key and the car kit start opening the connection to your cellular phone in your pocket without any touch of a button ect...
After your drive, you switch of the motor and the car unit disconnects the connection and give the cellular phone its function back.
A great thing, but believe me iam so disappointed that my new Orbit from O2 rejects my simcard but only in combination to my car hands free unit....
Greetings to UK!
Wolf
Wolfman-Jack said:
Hello, i have a big problem regarding a ORBIT2 from O2. The guys at O2 dont understand my problem , so i hope as the last hope you can help me. As you know the Orbit2 is the same as HTC cruise, o2 has no sim-lock here in germany. I use a sim-card from another telephone company and all works fine. I have problems with the sim-access profile. In my car i have a Nokia 616 Bluetooth hands free unit built in which supports sim- access profile. If i try to establish a connection between the orbit2 and my in car unit it works to the point as they handle out the password. After i confirm the given password from the handsfree device it tells me that the simcard i not valid. Is in the orbit 2 a lock on the bluetooth sim access profile which means that only o2 Simcards are allowed for the Sim access ? Can you please help me, because here is no one which understands my problem. Maybe i can have another firmware to solve the problem,the phone itself is simlock-free.
I dont understand why it is only possible with o2-sim cards to have the sim access functionality.
Can anybody help me?
Greetings Wolfman-Jack
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Hi,
interesting. So just to be clear you tried
1) o2 sim in orbit II - sim access works fine
2) other net sim in orbit II- sim access not work?
if that's the case you could try flashing a new rom, but I would suggest u wait a bit. Maybe check in the kaiser (o2 stellar) forum, for same prob and how to resolve it.
check compatibility of your bluetooth car kit with Polaris seems to be ok
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/6084.htm
"This product is compatible with:
. . . .
HTC: Advantage, MTeoR, P3300, P3400, P3600, P4350, P6300, P6500, S310, S620, S710, S730, Touch, Touch Cruise, Touch Dual, TyTN, TyTN II"
so that's out of the way
older thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=272235
maybe u could send a pm to mahmood,
ORBIT2 O2 Lock on SIM ACCESS
Hi Jackster,
i have meanwhile a little more what i have checked out.
Yesterday i took all sim-cards which have been in nearby range and what a big surprise all worked fine.
I tried prepaid cards of Vodafone, T-Mobile, and E-PLus and a contract card of E-Plus.
The only simcard which was rejected during the try of connect to the bluetooth devise is my own BASE-SIM-CARD .
BASE is by the why part of EPLUS company thats the FLATRATE PART of EPLUS.
After i tested all, i called my friend which has also an BASE contract and what another big surprise his card also didn`t work.
After all brainstorming it seems that only that BASE-cards were declined.
Next step is to find out what the differences are between all cards and the BASE sim card is. Maybe UMTS and normal GSM????
Maybe a protocol problem, because in my E51 from Nokia all cards also the BASE-CARDS works fine.
Greetings
Wolf
Wolf, I would suggest trying BASE related forums, as the same issue might happen with other handsets.
You might also try phoning BASE, tell them your problem, and asking if they have another type of SIM card you can try, even if you have to pay €10.
Good luck, and please let us know if you find the solution.
good luck
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Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
Wolfman-Jack said:
Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
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it would be difficult to get an old simcard, cause all provider deliver as new card so called USIM Card, most times with 72k Size. Try to get a blank E-Plus Simcard in an phoneshop and call the hotline, ask them for a sim card change and tell them you have a blank simcard you can use (dont tell its an eplus sim card) the cant check it, they will reaktivate your simcard with your base number without questions only minor change... in the phone your provider will be stated as E-Plus cause its programmed in your simcard.
Wolfman-Jack said:
Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
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Hello Wolf,
i have the same problem with my new Touch Cruise and my Nokia 616. I tried several Sims´s the last 2 days. One Vodafone (UMTS), one normal O2 (UMTS), one O2-Multicard (UMTS) and one old E-Plus (GSM).
The E-Plus Sim was the only one wich operated normally in SAP-Mode. The other Sim-Cards hanged by connecting after pairing. After turning the igniton off and on, this cards asked for the PIN but they didn´t find a network.
Have you tried another Firmware likes Bepes???
Hello LM76,
no i havent heard about that.
Can you tell me more.
Wolf
hi.
there is a imate jamin which is available for me at very cheap rate. the problem in the mibile is that it runs the sim of only one company.(warid, which is cellular comapnay in pakistan).but the sims of othe networks does not working.it is wm6.5 updated.
the shopkeeper said thet this problem comes after upgrading.but i dont belive the shopkeeper.
so my question is that is this problem is related to upgrading? mean if i buy it and then downgrade it to real is this problem will be solved.
soo should i buy it??