This phone looks really cool, and i thought i would share it with you.
The May 6th event in London in London is drawing ever closer. It is still three days away, and our mouths are already watering for the HTC Diamond. The presumed highlight of the show, will be the HTC Diamond. Now, instead of the low quality spy shots we have seen, we finally have some awesome images. Also, we have the rumored specifications of the device. Strap in, because this is some exciting stuff.
For media, there is a 3.2 megapixel camera, 4GB of internal storage with MicroSD expansion still on the table, FM radio and a 2.8 inch glorious VGA screen. This things rocks Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional, and has the hardware to back it up, with a 528MHz CPU monster. Connectivity is a sure thing, with HSDPA 7.6mbps, and WiFi, you are ready for all the high speed you can handle. To round out the feature list, it has a slide out QWERTY, quad band GSM, a rumored accelerometer, and is 10.7mm thick
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Here are some new things to check out!!
http://www.phonemag.com/video-hands-on-with-htcs-touch-diamond-052696.php
http://www.phonemag.com/htc-touch-diamond-hands-on-live-photos-from-london-052692.php
http://www.phonemag.com/htc-touch-diamond-specs-gps-confirmed-900mah-battery-052691.php
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# Connectivity: WCDMA / HSPA: 900/2100MHz. HSDPA 7.2 Mbps and HSUPA
# Operating system: Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional
# Display: 2.8-inch VGA touch screen
# Camera: 3.2MP, with video calling
# Internal memory: 4 GB Internal Storage, 256 MB flash, 192 MB RAM,
# Bluetooth: 2.0 with EDR
# Wireless: WiFi 802.11b/g
# GPS: GPS/AGPS
# Interface: HTC ExtUSB™ (mini-USB and audio jack in one; USB 2.0 High-Speed)
# Battery: 900 mAh
# Talk time: GSM: up to 4 hours
# Standby time: GSM: up to 300 hours/100 hours with push email
# Chipset: Qualcomm MSM® 7201A™ 528MHz
# Size: 102 x 51 x 11.33mm
# Weight: 110 g
Please post it in the right thread. Why are people messing up this thread
12ka4 said:
Please post it in the right thread. Why are people messing up this thread
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I'll tell you why:
Because this is the most popular thread and people get a wider coverage for their posts here.
It sucks that they misuse the xda-forum like this, and they make it a nightmare for the rest of us to navigate the forum.
rhov23 said:
I'll tell you why:
Because this is the most popular thread and people get a wider coverage for their posts here.
It sucks that they misuse the xda-forum like this, and they make it a nightmare for the rest of us to navigate the forum.
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This is true and I had thought of posting my Themes in this section which others have but, I posted them in general instead. Making a theme isn't development IMO as compared to making the killer app iTask.
That thing is ugly
Sorry for posting in the wrong section!! =(
really ugly !!! The front looks good, but the BACK !!!
vga is great, but the screen isnt bigger than others, why ? and does it still have just 64000 colors ?
The cpu is good, but this is no real milestone, and really uggly design sorry. Reminds me of the ugly corners of the touchcruise.
But you are all right, this is all definitly wrong here.
hohoho
LG KC1 is Marvell Monahans 806 MHz CPU
I think it's beautiful all the way. The back is painted with an optical illusion that it looks like a diamond, where in fact it's just flat. Brilliant!
Have you guys ever heard of buzz marketing?
This is exactly what this DaVince boy is doing.
I hope for him that he makes some good money out of this.
BTW the HTC Diamond brings in some step changes and not the quantum leap he alluded to.
Regards
HTC Touch Diamons hands-on : http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/06/htc-touch-diamond-hands-on/
Includes vids.
This is a continuation of the Touch series. There is no QWERTY slide out keyboard.
Enough to make me not buy it, sadness.
does HTC fix the video driver problem with the Diamond?
I was thinking of buying a Diamond for Mother's Day for my wife who is enjoying her Wizard. I was assuming that the video performance problem that exists with the Touch, the Kaiser, the Athena, etc., etc. is fixed in the Diamond, but I'd like to be sure.
My Wizard and my Cingular 2125 perform better than my Tilt and my Athena. By perform better, I mean screen redraws; doing things like changing orientation, or using the Camera, or scrolling in a web page, are painfully slow on the Tilt and the Anthena. I don't own a Touch, so I don't know first hand, but I believe the Touch is listed on http://www.htcclassaction.org/.
Since the Diamond is in the Touch family, I am concerned that it will have the same video performance issues. I'm not up enough on which chipset use which drivers.
Does anyone know if HTC has fixed the video driver problem in the Diamond?
xdafile said:
Does anyone know if HTC has fixed the video driver problem in the Diamond?
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When it's out to buy, we will all know
hopefully they fixed the camera too
like the looks, like the 4G of internal mem. but there is nothing about a micro sd slot on the site and 4g is simply not enough.
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46286
alfa said:
like the looks, like the 4G of internal mem. but there is nothing about a micro sd slot on the site and 4g is simply not enough.
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46286
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Seconded. Comes straight off my shopping list for that 1 thing alone. 4gb is not enough. end of.
I ordered it already, can't wait P
Love the look of this youtube player it has on board. Very i(you know what) like.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4952558463886652060&q=HTC+Touch&ei=XPMgSIL3GqCErAOU7cX6AQ
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I ordered it already, can't wait P
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What was the price that you paid for this beauty?
Unfortunately there is no expansion slot according to this site:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1305
Say it isn't so HTC! Say it isn't so!
Related
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/
At last something I would consider as a Uni replacement
Mav
MUTINY!!!!
mavrik64 said:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/
At last something I would consider as a Uni replacement
Mav
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MUTINY!
The Universal is the undisputed windows mobile device champion of the world. It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
That's the Unis only competitor. So you can take that pathetic 2.8 inch screens to a different forum.
http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
fnordelus said:
MUTINY!
The Universal is the undisputed windows mobile device champion of the world. It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
That's the Unis only competitor. So you can take that pathetic 2.8 inch screens to a different forum.
http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
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ooooooohhhhh!!!!!!
time for another change of underpants
Mav
No VGA
This would be truly awesome if only it had vga.
At the mo i have the universal with TOMTOM6 using a bluetooth receiver and i carry a 6mp camera with 3x optical zoom.
It's kinda a drag carrying 2/3 devices but I love the keyboard and screen of the uni
Another advantage of the uni is that the screen is protected by the lid when you have it closed which i like.
What will you say about E-TEN Glofiish X800, 'Double-Oh Seven'?
This is the only thing currently that probably could lure me away from the Universal...
Advantage is too heavy, others lack VGA or GPS...
The X800 does not have one thing you can think of, and that's Keyboard. Which I honestly to God do NOT need.
The lack of an SDHC interface on either device is enough for me to stick to my Universal.
My Universal hurts me when I look at other phones...
Balur said:
My Universal hurts me when I look at other phones...
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Mine says I can look, but don't touch
Mav
nvatvani said:
The lack of an SDHC interface on either device is enough for me to stick to my Universal.
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Have you got a Second Edition Universal (or a Mars Special? )?
Because as far as I know, mine does NOT have SDHC interface, just plain SD, limited to 4GB capacity cards (up to 2GB without problems, with 4GB Camera App has problems).
It even buggered my (non-SDHC) 4GB card recently (one of WM6 editions did so), so now it's only 2GB and I've currently run out of options to restore its 4GB capacity...
fnordelus said:
It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
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Oh my GOD that is a sweet looking device! I might worry a bit about the hinge though.
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Have you got a Second Edition Universal (or a Mars Special? )?
Because as far as I know, mine does NOT have SDHC interface, just plain SD, limited to 4GB capacity cards (up to 2GB without problems, with 4GB Camera App has problems).
It even buggered my (non-SDHC) 4GB card recently (one of WM6 editions did so), so now it's only 2GB and I've currently run out of options to restore its 4GB capacity...
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No ... I only have a 2GB SD card running as well on my Universal.
My point as to why the Kaiser is already redundant even before production is because the Kaiser is nothing more than a Universal+Navigator (or any other Bluetooth based GPS receiver).
The mini-SD interface on the Kaiser is the only key that made it redundant against the Universal.
Hence, the Kaiser is NOT an upgrade of the Universal, but instead a competitor. I would call it a "side-grade" as opposed to an "up-grade".
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No ... I only have a 2GB SD card running as well on my Universal.
My point as to why the Kaiser is already redundant even before production is because the Kaiser is nothing more than a Universal+Navigator (or any other Bluetooth based GPS receiver).
The mini-SD interface on the Kaiser is the only key that made it redundant against the Universal.
Hence, the Kaiser is NOT an upgrade of the Universal, but instead a competitor. I would call it a "side-grade" as opposed to an "up-grade".
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I re-read your first message. My bad, somehow thought you were saying that Universal does have SDHC Sorry!
Right, neither of Uni or Kaiser have it. But this honestly doesn't put me off too much, I don't do video on the devices.
One thing that Kaiser sorely misses: a VGA screen... Otherwise a near-perfect device... just 160 grams, GPS present, all latest connectivity present, v.good 2.8Mpix camera, unique design.
For those waiting for it, here I found that HTC have responded to somebody that they will release the Kaiser in late JULY, not October (October will be the time for HTC Shift).
So may be after all it's worth the wait for you and things are not so gloomy?
Kaiser's lack of VGA ruins the parade for me. This is why I'm looking towards a E-TEN Glofiish X800... also due in July.
In the whole flurry of devices coming each day - I'm yet to find a slick (Universal is the hefty 285 g...), well-connected, GPS-enabled device with a VGA screen...
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I re-read your first message. My bad, somehow thought you were saying that Universal does have SDHC Sorry!
Right, neither of Uni or Kaiser have it. But this honestly doesn't put me off too much, I don't do video on the devices.
One thing that Kaiser sorely misses: a VGA screen... Otherwise a near-perfect device... just 160 grams, GPS present, all latest connectivity present, v.good 2.8Mpix camera, unique design.
For those waiting for it, here I found that HTC have responded to somebody that they will release the Kaiser in late JULY, not October (October will be the time for HTC Shift).
So may be after all it's worth the wait for you and things are not so gloomy?
Kaiser's lack of VGA ruins the parade for me. This is why I'm looking towards a E-TEN Glofiish X800... also due in July.
In the whole flurry of devices coming each day - I'm yet to find a slick (Universal is the hefty 285 g...), well-connected, GPS-enabled device with a VGA screen...
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Wow ... that's quite a bit of "VGA" in one post.
Maybe you can try and explain to me why a VGA (640x480) resolution on a 3.6 inch screen device is actually practical.
I have used OzVGA on my Universal and then removed it just after 1 week because the high resolution demanded a higher precision touch-screen input from the stylus. You can forget about using your finger with OzVGA on VGA mode as opposed to the standard QVGA mode. I mean, in VGA mode I "lost" the ability to control scroll-bars, as well as cell/row selections from a table form or even when you want to do "hold down" selection (this is equivalent to the right-click in desktops) - using my finger ofcourse. Things were OK with the stylus.
With such a serious loss, the benefit of VGA is not actually worthy on the Universal because of its screen size.
If you are talking about the HTC Advantage, then VGA is really worthy because we are talking about a 5 inch screen here - and so the loss which the Universal suffers from is not applicable to the Advantage.
I agree, the only thing missing now is the VGA screen.
I am confused, is this device able to flip into laptop mode? From the other pictures, it seemed the keyboard pulls out from behind the screen, but then there is another picture showing the screen folded up on the keyboard.
Do you like the price?
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437
Mike
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-itttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt! Ridiculous!
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Do you like the price?
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437
Mike
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Amazing ..... that's just the kind of cash I can pull out of my asshole!
the price is gonna fall down in a few weeks.
That price is for a VERY NICE laptop. wheeeew!
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Amazing ..... that's just the kind of cash I can pull out of my asshole!
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If it's that easy, can I have some <grin>
They must have the decimal point in the wrong place.
Mav
Okay the new virtual keyboard, contacts app, photos app,home screen and gestures all look great with the Touch Dual, but will original touch owners be able to enjoy this by way of an update? Ive heard nothing. Im a bit pissed actually, I know technology moves fast but the Touch is only 4 months or so old, its still a relatively new device and I feel HTC sold me half a product.
have a look
As quoted on techtree.com
After a successul release in Japan, HTC now plans to officially launch the Touch Dual mobile phone for Europe. The Touch Dual measures 107x55x15.8-mm and weighs 120-grams. It supports WCDMA/HSDPA (Wideband Code Division Multiple Access/High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) 2100MHz and GSM/EDGE 900/1800/1900MHz networks. It also features the TouchFLO interface over Windows Mobile 6 Professional and a 2.6" QVGA touch-screen and is powered by a 400MHz Qualcomm MSM7200 processor. It comes with 256MB flash, 128MB RAM, and microSD expansion; Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; 802.11b/g WiFi; HTC ExtUSB (HTC's mini USB 2.0 jack with support for data and audio); and a battery to keep you talking for upto 240 mins on WCDMA and upto 360 minutes on GSM frequencies.
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Okay the new virtual keyboard, contacts app, photos app,home screen and gestures all look great with the Touch Dual, but will original touch owners be able to enjoy this by way of an update?
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doubtful,.. but hope dies last!
There will be an update for the keyboard.. that's sure ! but for the rest we will see... it seems possible to have everything "software" if the rom are quite the same.. but we can't say this without the touch dual roms.
HTC promises the keyboard for the touch .... but for the rest.. nothing is said yet.
Ofcourse they aint gonna give that to us. They want you to buy the 'new and better' Touch. They already have your money, but they want mmmoooOOORE!
*ahwem*
Anyway, there might be a chance we get it for the Touch. And otherwise I'm sure someone will be able to get it from the Touch Dual .
But looking at how succesful the Touch is in sales, this is the moment for HTC to show how they are in the after sales.
Coming from the s100 and s200 I'm not too confident in all this though, but we'll see!
some of the new features for the dual is surely plus for me. i don't like the smaller screen and bulkiness of the unit compared to the touch. but who knows, when i see it personally on shops, i might get one also to play with.
i think pdaviet or another developer will include this functions to their roms for prophet and old htc touchs.
No wifi
I dont think we will want to wait for HTC to release an update for these features. This sounds like a job for.... someone else. I bet a developer will write a app that will implement these features. Touch Dual looks great, I like the direction HTC is going but not giving this device Wlan is really lame. It's also being released as the O2 XDA Star, but quadband.
No wifi? As far as I can see wifi is one of the features....in previous specs I've seen GPS - which is missing now - which would be for me the only reason to swich
GPS
Do you think GPS is on board, but disabled???
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Do you think GPS is on board, but disabled???
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Qualcomm MSM7200 processor technical features:
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gpsOne® position-location assisted-GPS (A-GPS) solution
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http://www.cdmatech.com/products/msm7200_chipset_solution.jsp
one of the things that made me switch to Htc Touch was wifi. Since the HTC Slide doesnt have wifi, then i dont think its worth the change
The lack of wifi let me down too.
I've been waiting for the new touch with 3.5G, but no wifi is a big no no for me. Let's see if they update the software on the original touch, if they do, I'll buy one, if they don't, I won't buy any of them, I'll just wait. Form factor wise, I think the original touch is cooler
Yep, my ideal phone (at the minute) would be the Touch, but with built-in GPS, a faster processor and larger storage. But processor and storage don't bother me too much (overclocked and a 6GB memory card) so only issue is the lack of built-in GPS - means I have to use a separate bluetooth GPS, which is rather inconvenient at times
David
400mhz
400mhz is awfully fast. the touch is 201, i think most people can get it running close to 300 with overclocking but that just means the new one is gonna scream, nothing better than streaming porn to classmates and coworkers via bluetooth!
seriously though, the tech upgrades alone might be worth picking one up, espcially considering it will probably have the same customization options our touches have now.
i just love my touch and wouldn want any other phone now! it just has everything and i like the fact that the only keys are the ones to make calls...
i dont mine useing the touchkeyboard and the 201MHr are enough i think...
gps doesnt bother me neither... only people with a bad sence of orentation need pgs
Hi
Does anyone know on what network the touch dual is going to be released in the uk?
Is it going to be available on t-mobile? If so when?
Thanx
Nik
hey guys !
watch this rewiew of the htc touch dual
http://smape.com/en/reviews/htc/HTC_Touch_Dual-rev.html
wow i just read the review, it seems the old Touch is better at quite a number for stuff especially graphics and many multimedia.
With the higher price, minus Wifi, and smaller screem, we (with the old touch) shouldnt feel too bad guys
Some recent unconnected bits of information on the web have got me thinking that sooner or later there will be another iteration of the Athena series, an x7520 if you will.
First, on Engadget/Engadgetmobile, there was the blog on
How would you change HTC's Advantage X7510?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/how-would-you-change-htcs-advantage-x7510/
Then there are the regular posts about new HTC projects with new code names, for instance, HTC QUAR100:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/09/08/the-htc-quar100-a-north-american-exclusive/
Then finally, even though it hasn't been announced, Samsung is now making 1.0 inch form factor SSD's, and they are not sata, but pata devices (like the 1.0 microdrives). The largest is 32gb, which trumps the x7510's 16gb:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productList.do?fmly_id=161
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE32GZMPP
I'd wager that a successor will be announced around the CES show next year.
All I can say, is that it better have great video performance and the joystick back.
What do you think?
What do I think ???
I don't think there would be any replacement for the HTC Advantage. Why? It is not selling well because of their stupid decision to remove the buttons and joy stick control. Not to mention, the only thing they changed is the keyboard and flash memory. No provider wants to carry it. The only phone operator I read offering the X7510 is TMobile Germany. Even at the country of it's origin, it barely made news when released. The only thing that will save the X7510 at this point is if HTC gave it to phone operators at a very cheap price. Which I suggest they should do now rather than let it sit in their storage due to better models coming out with better specs.
I am sorry to admit this... but I think this is the end for our babies with 5 inch screens. Which I hope won't be the case. I believe a better move on their part is to update the HTC Universal.
I think you have some valid points.
Many of the comments on 'How you would change the x7510' on the Engadget thread mentioned lack of joystick and OK buttons. Major mistake on HTC's parts.
So really there are three options:
HTC abandons the format
HTC introduces one more model with 32GB SSD, joystick or not.
HTC introduces a similar form factor, but totally new design.
I believe that they will at least do the 32GB option, as they don't have to change any hardware.
I would prefer the following changes atleast.
1. More slimmer device.
2. Change the old PXA270 processor to PXA310.
3. Newer phones come with 256MB RAM and 512MB ROM.
Hopefully they will change those too in the new model.
4. Windows Mobile 7
6. Support 800*480 Resolution.
--Srini
Heres what I would improve:
1. Remove the buttons on the face, and make the screen larger (stretch in to the corners of the device. Put the removed buttons on the sides or top of the device.
2. Higher res screen 800x480 ?
3. Larger microdrive, 64GB atleast.
4. Full size SD-card lot, maybe even two.
5. Make the device slimmer.
6. Slide out keyboard (portrait).
7. Newer generation and faster CPU (800MHz ?) / GPU (NVidia ?) combo.
8. 300MB RAM (atleast)
9. 512MB ROM (atleast)
10. Better camera with atleast VGA @ 30 FPS recording.
11. Make a docking station for the device in portrait. With the headphone out and USB host in front and the rest on the back. Dont forget support to charge a second battery.
So what do you guys think ?
1. Put vibrate back in.
2. Change screen aspect ratio from 4:3 to 16:9 (would make it easier to hold like a phone and would give us full-page-width browsing, video)
3. Give us a private speaker so we don't have to carry BT all the time.
4. Put the buttons and joystick back.
5. Include chipset for WiMax.
Yeah what he said plus what I said makes it the almost perfect PDA.
there is something in the works that i know of but i dont know if u would consider this a athena successor. cant give details though.
Now why did you do that ? Common tell us something ! Just anything !
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Now why did you do that ? Common tell us something ! Just anything !
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problem is i dont know if u would consider it a athena successor. it doesnt have a microdrive and the screen isn't as big. sorry cant give more details.
Touch HD ?, or is it the Omni your talking about ? None of them are up to the task.
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Touch HD ?, or is it the Omni your talking about ? None of them are up to the task.
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nope. not any one of those. these devices the public doesnt know about.
Well then thats something to look forward to.
Nope the magic words "screen isn't as big" and I loose all interest.
The biggest appeal to me for the Athena is the 5 inch screen.
I would however like it slimmer and a full size sd slot.
With the joystick back, a slimmer unit and a full size sd slot it would be near the perfect device for me.
I don't think HTC will simply abandon Athena form factor. For one thing it looks that MIDs (Mobile Internet Devices) will be a popular thing next year and for me Athena is a true MID and for now the best MID.
So what I'm hoping for is that HTC will come up with a new MID device sometime in 2009, that could be a successor to Athena, hopefully with WM7 (I have a silly idea that WM7 will be released together with Win7 sometime in June/July) and with 5" WVGA screen, new faster CPU and more storage...
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nope. not any one of those. these devices the public doesnt know about.
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Pawel,
I know Blackstone is not quite a replacement for the 5 inch screen, but it has FM radio, and faster HSDPA speed. I'm quite keen to go for this. However, if there is something better in the pipeline, I might wait.
I like Blackstone's form factor, but was disappointed with its mere 3.8 inch screen. Of course there are also other disappointments such as the lack of joystick, tv-out, small built-in storage, but the biggest disappointment is the small size.
I hope the replacement model that you have been told retains the 5 inch screen, latest HSDPA, wimax, have embedded earpiece, and similar form factor as blackstone (ie slim and light). Am I likely to be disappointed?
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Pawel,
I know Blackstone is not quite a replacement for the 5 inch screen, but it has FM radio, and faster HSDPA speed. I'm quite keen to go for this. However, if there is something better in the pipeline, I might wait.
I like Blackstone's form factor, but was disappointed with its mere 3.8 inch screen. Of course there are also other disappointments such as the lack of joystick, tv-out, small built-in storage, but the biggest disappointment is the small size.
I hope the replacement model that you have been told retains the 5 inch screen, latest HSDPA, wimax, have embedded earpiece, and similar form factor as blackstone (ie slim and light). Am I likely to be disappointed?
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if u enjoy the blackstone. i would go for it. the one im talking about doesnt have all the specs u wanted btw.
edit: btw i want to get the blackstone so there really is nothing too much better in the near term coming.
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if u enjoy the blackstone. i would go for it. the one im talking about doesnt have all the specs u wanted btw.
edit: btw i want to get the blackstone so there really is nothing too much better in the near term coming.
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What about the HTC 8290? If the specs are correct, it's like the Touch HD, except it's got WiMax and TV-out. The lack of TV-out on the Touch HD is a big disappointment to me. I would have bought the HD instantaneously had it had this feature. If the 8290 does have it, and has both WiMax and HSPA, it seems very attractive to me.
Regarding the Advantage, I believe they will keep the form factor because as stated above, MIDs are coming and the Advantage really is pocketable and light enough compared to many other MID offerings. If I were HTC I'd wait for WM 7, and probably use the Tegra APX2500 processor.
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if u enjoy the blackstone. i would go for it. the one im talking about doesnt have all the specs u wanted btw.
edit: btw i want to get the blackstone so there really is nothing too much better in the near term coming.
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Pawel,
Thanks for your info. I guess I would go for Blackstone as an interim device while waiting for the ultimate Athena replacement. I thought I could live with a 4 inch (and 3.8 inch is close to that) screen, but after making up a prototype and played with it, I don't think the screen is big enough yet. May be 4.5 at the very minimum. I had played with the iPhone and just don't like the small screen. Too much zooming in and out when surfing the net and that drives me nut after a while.
Sigh... May be Athena as it is now is still the best, even when compared to Blackstone.
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Pawel,
Thanks for your info. I guess I would go for Blackstone as an interim device while waiting for the ultimate Athena replacement. I thought I could live with a 4 inch (and 3.8 inch is close to that) screen, but after making up a prototype and played with it, I don't think the screen is big enough yet. May be 4.5 at the very minimum. I had played with the iPhone and just don't like the small screen. Too much zooming in and out when surfing the net and that drives me nut after a while.
Sigh... May be Athena as it is now is still the best, even when compared to Blackstone.
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yea, i dont mind the 3.8in screen. i have the iphone 3g and have gotten used to the zooming bc of the multitouch. afaik, there isnt anything with a screen bigger than that of the blackstones coming out anytime soon unless theres something in the works that i dont know about.
Hi to All,
since we are all waiting for our Touch HD rolleyes - rolling our fingers without having ever seen a real one - i was wondering about a true comparison with the Trinity. We all know that the touch HD is obviously the successor of the Trinity...but wait a second eek: why not viceversa?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=533&id2=1469
the differences cool:
the trinity is 3.6 grams LIGHTER than the Blackstone
the trinity battery has a 11% more capacity than the...
the trinity has an IrDa port while the Blackstone...
the trinity has a real D-pad while the...
the trinity has 10 real buttons while...
the trinity has EVEN a scrollwheel!
...do you agree D)? of course, this is a temporary comparison up to the infamous delivery date, when i will probably change my mind...but my Trinity will forever rest in peace nearby my glorious Wizard!
More differences:
HD screen and resolution: 3.8 " (97 millimetres)
Display Resolution: 480 x 800
Trinty screen and res: 2.8 " (72 millimetres)
Display Resolution: 240 x 320
HD Processor: 32 bit Qualcomm MSM7201A
CPU Clock: 528 MHz
Trinty Processor: 32 bit Samsung SC32442
CPU Clock: 400 MHz
...apart from jokes...
...and you forgot another important improvement: 288 Mb of RAM are a HUGE improvement with respect to the 64K (48K usable) of the trinity...i hope that this memory is not all eaten up by the video ram....
LOL
Maybe that is going to happen mate, the more memory devices have, the more memory new programs demand, that is called consumism...
I always thought that the Diamond was the spiritual successor to the Trinity:
next in line using the product name: P3600 -> P3700
same form factor, but lighter and thinner
upgraded camera
upgraded screen
GPS as well
etc
Heh, with the advances in finger friendly apps and FTouchFloSL etc. all my hardware buttons have become redundant except the on/off and hang up buttons
Bring on a larger screen!!
At the first price drop it's mine
i would say trinity > elf (touch) > polaris (touch cruise) > diamond > touch hd
pzucchel said:
...and you forgot another important improvement: 288 Mb of RAM are a HUGE improvement with respect to the 64K (48K usable) of the trinity...i hope that this memory is not all eaten up by the video ram....
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I am tempted by the Touch HD, but it still lacks the UMTS coverage for international travel.
Trinity has triband UMTS
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
Touch HD is only dual band
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100
Beyond the UMTS issue, I use my Trinity to read/surf with the D'Pad. It is handy when in bed or just relaxing in the park. I don't like the idea of using 2 hands all the time. The computing power and RAM of the HD is of course superior. Why not make thinner lighter Trinity with more horsepower, I'd buy that!
On a Diamond with SmartTouch I really do all the reading and browsing with a single finger, without using the d-pad.
TouchHD any day
I threw my trinity at the wall today (but thanks to its hard perspex shell. it lived without so much as a scratch). It is so utterly slow in everything it does and always bumping itself into full silent mode without telling me. by the time I dish it out of my pocket I've missed 12 important calls - rendering my PHONE (it's main purpose) about as useful as facial hair on a woman.
So lets see.... HTC Touch HD....
* more than 10x free RAM...
* more than 4x the number of pixels and a 84% increase in screen real estate (if you did your maths properly. it's NOT a 36% increase)...
* its thinner than an iphone yet does a billion times more things thanks to the xda-dev community...
* and its got a way faster cpu!
It's more than twice the phone that the Trinity will ever be, in any respect!
.. seriously man.. if I was GOD.. and I'm being asked to improve on the Touch HD?.. only thing I can think of is jamming a dual core Intel U7700 into that thing *drooool*....Until technology can afford to do that, this phone is no less than perfect for me. I'm buying it. Period.
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On a Diamond with SmartTouch I really do all the reading and browsing with a single finger, without using the d-pad.
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Are you holding the phone in one hand and using a single finger?
the perfect phone is here!!!
...decided: I'll order the touch HD, but I will keep my trinity!
advantages: 6x more pixels, 3 times more screen surface, many buttons, memory, twice the battery lifetime, twice the cpu power, good xda roms available right now, umts coverage, fault tolerant, swappable microsd card...even double gps coverage if i get lost in the desert!
...this is the telephone of my dreams, i am going to order the other accessory (the HD) since i already have the trinity!!!
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Are you holding the phone in one hand and using a single finger?
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ah, but you use the FINGER? i always used my TOE...
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ah, but you use the FINGER? i always used my TOE...
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Ha Ha, "monkey see monkey do"
I have to say that this HD has my attention. The $1,000 price tag is a bit much to swallow when my trinity still works fine. Maybe Swisscom will have it available on a contract.
Cheers,
price
I ordered it for 909 CHF from www.digitec.ch. It is very good distributor, i already built my PC buying components from them, they are #1 in switzerland (check for example www.toppreise.ch). It is supposed to arrive first week of november.
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I ordered it for 909 CHF from www.digitec.ch. It is very good distributor, i already built my PC buying components from them, they are #1 in switzerland (check for example www.toppreise.ch). It is supposed to arrive first week of november.
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That is a very tempting price when you compare it to a Touch Pro which costs 20 francs more than the HD.
pzucchel: I sent you a PM.
lonertic said:
I threw my trinity at the wall today (but thanks to its hard perspex shell. it lived without so much as a scratch). It is so utterly slow in everything it does and always bumping itself into full silent mode without telling me. by the time I dish it out of my pocket I've missed 12 important calls - rendering my PHONE (it's main purpose) about as useful as facial hair on a woman.
So lets see.... HTC Touch HD....
* more than 10x free RAM...
* more than 4x the number of pixels and a 84% increase in screen real estate (if you did your maths properly. it's NOT a 36% increase)...
* its thinner than an iphone yet does a billion times more things thanks to the xda-dev community...
* and its got a way faster cpu!
It's more than twice the phone that the Trinity will ever be, in any respect!
.. seriously man.. if I was GOD.. and I'm being asked to improve on the Touch HD?.. only thing I can think of is jamming a dual core Intel U7700 into that thing *drooool*....Until technology can afford to do that, this phone is no less than perfect for me. I'm buying it. Period.
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uhm, we are all so happy with this DREAM HTC that....i remember i was also very happy with my DREAM Trinity (before release!)...
By the way, how do we know it is so fast? it cannot be faster than the touch pro - which has the same ram and the same processor but less pixels...
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...decided: I'll order the touch HD, but I will keep my trinity!
advantages: 6x more pixels, 3 times more screen surface, many buttons, memory, twice the battery lifetime, twice the cpu power, good xda roms available right now, umts coverage, fault tolerant, swappable microsd card...even double gps coverage if i get lost in the desert!
...this is the telephone of my dreams, i am going to order the other accessory (the HD) since i already have the trinity!!!
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Congrats for your desicion! and welcome to the: HD waiting to recieve club!
I will also keep my Uni, so many years serving me so great!
One thing that I'm wondering about with the Touch HD is the presence and usability of graphics acceleration. The Trinity has an ATI graphics chip inside and although in the beginning there weren't many apps that could tap into it, the new CorePlayer takes advantage of it. In fact video playback is quite good now with the acceleration working. YouTube playing through the CorePlayer is PERFECT on the Trinity with acceleration activated.
I've read that the Diamond and the TouchPro suffer from terrible video playback performance. I'm wondering if the Touch HD will also be handicapped when it comes to video playback. That would be a pity and a waste of that big beautiful screen.
Also...I have to brag that my Slingbox is streaming video to my Trinity over wifi hotspots with great resolution and fluidity and I wouldn't want to give that up.
Does anyone know how the graphics acceleration is performing on the HD?
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One thing that I'm wondering about with the Touch HD is the presence and usability of graphics acceleration. The Trinity has an ATI graphics chip inside and although in the beginning there weren't many apps that could tap into it, the new CorePlayer takes advantage of it. In fact video playback is quite good now with the acceleration working. YouTube playing through the CorePlayer is PERFECT on the Trinity with acceleration activated.
I've read that the Diamond and the TouchPro suffer from terrible video playback performance. I'm wondering if the Touch HD will also be handicapped when it comes to video playback. That would be a pity and a waste of that big beautiful screen.
Also...I have to brag that my Slingbox is streaming video to my Trinity over wifi hotspots with great resolution and fluidity and I wouldn't want to give that up.
Does anyone know how the graphics acceleration is performing on the HD?
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From what I can see in the numerous videos about HD, graphics acelaration looks pretty cool in performance!
Just google HD and see the videos
i think the HD2 is an amazing piece of hardware and its clearly better than any other competing product in the coming few months. i do however hate a few things about it:
1-the lack of front camera for 3G video calls. while i may not care a lot about video calls i imagine that many will be missing it.
2-i see no point of releasing a separate delayed hardware revision for US market. especially when you consider that the rest of the world version lacks the front camera just like every other US phone. the Acer F1(another 1 GHZ 3G phone) has been available for a while and it supports US 3G bands on the same hardware and it even has the front camera.
3- considering that its the best multimedia phone made by HTC, its lacking the TV-out and the FM-Radio transmitter and better camera(all of which are supported by the N97)
4- the included 512MB ROM is a joke. i know that it can be expanded with SD card. but extra flash on the device is always useful. the 1.5 year old Omnia had 8/16/24BG+microSD why cant this have it. adding 8 or 16 GB flash costs HTC almost nothing to add
5-lack of stylus: HTC patented the capacitive stylus but they didnt use it. i know the the screen is big enough to be very finger friendly. but its still windows mobile and some applications work need stylus (for example Pocket artist).
6- lack of hardware buttons (especially camera). i wish the added 2 or 3 buttons on the empty sides. WM will always make use of the hardware buttons
7-despite the very high specs, its still less than the minimum Windows mobile7 specs (which requires Tegra level graphics performance acceleration and bigger than integrated storage ) which means that it will not be
upgradeable to wm7.
8-i dont understand the 320+128MB. the dedicated 128MB for the low performing graphics chip seems pointless to me. if they are going to put all this memory there why didnt they allocate it to program memory.
9- i really love how HTC managed to make the device reasonably small considering the huge 4.3" screen. i still think that its physically too big for many people. the HD was not very pocket friendly and this one is even bigger. i wish the screen was 4.0" or even 3.8". considering their recent improved and more efficient designs, im sure HTC would have been able to even make it friendly for one hand use with a smaller screen.
10- im not too big on the new standard micro-USB connector. they should have at lest included the hard to find mini-USB to micro-USB adapter with it. everybody already has several mini-USB cables/chargers but ive never actually seen a micro USB yet.
11- they increased up the specs (and power usage i would assume) significantly from the first HD but they reduced the battery size from 1350 to 1250mah!!!. luckily the early reports are suggesting "acceptable" battery life
Only thing missing for me on the device is a decent camera. I don't mean HTC standard... I mean the best of Nokia, Samsung & Sony Ericsson. The original HD took terrible pictures and videos. I don't think there is much improvement in this area from previews and videos.
TV-Out would of been great but sadly missing.
I don't care about front camera because I hardly ever use video call.
It's probably more of a business centric device but with such a large screen it could have so easily been the ultimate work and pleasure phone.
I'm leaning towards the Nokia N900 (Linux) but still undecided.
Just some thoughts for your annoyances! (I currently own an Omnia too)
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1-the lack of front camera for 3G video calls. while i may not care a lot about video calls i imagine that many will be missing it.
3G has been around for a while with a front video camera, but I can truly say that I don't know a single person that actually uses it. It's a gimmick IMO.
2-i see no point of releasing a separate delayed hardware revision for US market. especially when you consider that the rest of the world version lacks the front camera just like every other US phone. the Acer F1(another 1 GHZ 3G phone) has been available for a while and it supports US 3G bands on the same hardware and it even has the front camera.
I don't see the point either - bit silly if you ask me.
3- considering that its the best multimedia phone made by HTC, its lacking the TV-out and the FM-Radio transmitter and better camera(all of which are supported by the N97)
FM what? It still bedazzles me that people listen to FM radio these days. Surely most people have unlimited internet now and like I just use internet radio. More stations! As for the TV-out, again, I don't see the point really. Personally I use my netbook/laptop/pc for plugging into a tv since they can play HD. I supposed it would be nice if you want to show off photos to friends but then we all have facebook these days anyway For me, not a sore exclusion.
4- the included 512MB ROM is a joke. i know that it can be expanded with SD card. but extra flash on the device is always useful. the 1.5 year old Omnia had 8/16/24BG+microSD why cant this have it. adding 8 or 16 GB flash costs HTC almost nothing to add
I love the additional 8GB of the Omnia, but I guess they have to keep costs down somewhere. I have a 16GB micro SD, but when are 24/32 going to be available? Anyone know?
5-lack of stylus: HTC patented the capacitive stylus but they didnt use it. i know the the screen is big enough to be very finger friendly. but its still windows mobile and some applications work need stylus (for example Pocket artist).
I think you can still use a stylus but you have to set it up to do so (I saw it in another post on here).
6- lack of hardware buttons (especially camera). i wish the added 2 or 3 buttons on the empty sides. WM will always make use of the hardware buttons
There is no excuse for extra buttons down the side, although it makes it a bit more sleek I guess. But it's not like it doesn't take photos, it's just a useablitly thing.
7-despite the very high specs, its still less than the minimum Windows mobile7 specs (which requires Tegra level graphics performance acceleration) which means that it will not be
upgradeable to wm7.
I'm not sure that's right is it? In that original Leo thread in the main board, wasn't it confirmed that it will be upgradable? I think it's remains a bit of an unknown at the moment. That said, will wm7 be complete in 12 months? Given M$'s history of keeping to their planned dates, I doubt it. I think cookers will make it happen anyway and if not, in 12 months it will be upgrade time. Did someone say HD3?!
8-i dont understand the 320+128MB. the dedicated 128MB for the low performing graphics chip seems pointless to me. if they are going to put all this memory there why didnt they allocate it to program memory.
This one I have no idea about. Maybe they have something clever up their sleeves?
9- i really love how HTC managed to make the device reasonably small considering the huge 4.3" screen. i still think that its physically too big for many people. the HD was not very pocket friendly and this one is even bigger. i wish the screen was 4.0" or even 3.8". considering their recent improved and more efficient designs, im sure HTC would have been able to even make it friendly for one hand use with a smaller screen.
Well lets look at the iPhone. It's a huge seller. The HD2 is only a couple of mm's wider and taller so I don't see anyone is going to see it as an issue when they put it in their hands.
10- im not too big on the micro-USB connector. they should have at lest included the hard to find mini-USB adapter with it. everybody already has several mini-USB cables/chargers but ive never actually seen a micro USB yet.
I totally disagree here. It's the new universal format. You won't have seen many yet because devices are JUST beginning to emerge with it (ie Omnia 2). Already it's working because Samsung usually have their own proprietary connector so to see them go universal is a fantastic step in the right direction. It would be blind of HTC not to follow. So yes, bin those old Mini-USB
11- they increased up the specs (and power usage i would assume) significantly from the first HD but they reduced the battery size from 1350 to 1250mah!!!. luckily the early reports are suggesting "acceptable" battery life
I really hope it can last at least one full day of decent usage without the requirement of a charge. Surely they wouldn't make this wonderful device then shoot themselves in the foot??
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Anyway some good points there!
7-despite the very high specs, its still less than the minimum Windows mobile7 specs (which requires Tegra level graphics performance acceleration) which means that it will not be
upgradeable to wm7
I'm not sure that's right is it? In that original Leo thread in the main board, wasn't it confirmed that it will be upgradable? I think it's remains a bit of an unknown at the moment. That said, will wm7 be complete in 12 months? Given M$'s history of keeping to their planned dates, I doubt it. I think cookers will make it happen anyway and if not, in 12 months it will be upgrade time. Did someone say HD3?!
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It is very likely WM7 will be out by mid to late next year. WM8 is already being discussed as I understand it and WM6 and 6.5 have been universally panned (and quite rightly).
So if you purchase the HD2 assuming it will be out of date in less than 10 months then all well but I suspect many will not be happy (including me). I don't mind spending extra bucks now to avoid doubling my investment by having to purchase two devices in the space of 10 months!
Do you have the link to the original "in the original Leo thread in the main board, wasn't it confirmed that it will be upgradable? "
add this to the list:
1. lack of full-fledged graphics drivers (3D)
2. lack of d-pad; or trackball like blackberrys
1) Front Camera - most people don't use them so not a big deal
2) Buy the Acer if you like it (have fun)
3) it has got an FM Radio onboard I believe
4) Memory could be better but its got an SD card so just by a 16gb card.
5) The point is you don't need a stylus - am I missing something. If you wannt a Stylus get an Omnia 2
6) The camera button could have been useful - but nobody knows if one of the front buttons cannot be used. Shall we wait till its been reviewed fully before we slag it off.
7) Its been clearly stated that the specs do not say "Tegra" only. Thats just not true. Makes me laugh that a phone with great 3d potential and dedicated memory like the HD2 is being slagged off for no reason.
8) The screen size is the best part of the phone - it can be used to watch video, surf the net, etc. So it has to be big to fit the screen - not an issue.
9) Micro-USB!! - You mean the defacto standard now.
10) Nobody knows about battery life yet so lets hold fire.
Why are you interested in the phone if non of its main selling points you like?
because despite its "limitations" its still a lot better than the rest now.
take a chill pill dude and try to tone-down the fanboiasm. our nitpicking will make it very easy for HTC to make the HD3 a better device. also by highlighting them so early in its life, it will make easy easy for its users to deal with its potential issues
Teneka_Khan said:
1) Front Camera - most people don't use them so not a big deal
2) Buy the Acer if you like it (have fun)
3) it has got an FM Radio onboard I believe
4) Memory could be better but its got an SD card so just by a 16gb card.
5) The point is you don't need a stylus - am I missing something. If you wannt a Stylus get an Omnia 2
6) The camera button could have been useful - but nobody knows if one of the front buttons cannot be used. Shall we wait till its been reviewed fully before we slag it off.
7) Its been clearly stated that the specs do not say "Tegra" only. Thats just not true. Makes me laugh that a phone with great 3d potential and dedicated memory like the HD2 is being slagged off for no reason.
8) The screen size is the best part of the phone - it can be used to watch video, surf the net, etc. So it has to be big to fit the screen - not an issue.
9) Micro-USB!! - You mean the defacto standard now.
10) Nobody knows about battery life yet so lets hold fire.
Why are you interested in the phone if non of its main selling points you like?
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I haved discovered that it does support WM7http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7528 states
(QCOM 8k, Nvidia “Tegra” AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
Qualcomm 8k = Snapdragon's QSD8xxx-series chips = Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (which is in the Leo).. so the processor should meet WM7 chassis 1 requirement.
To answer the FM radio question - the answer is YES
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-2957.php
I agree with the comments above. There is no such thing as a perfect device but you have got to congratulate HTC on the HD2 being one of the closest to it.
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I haved discovered that it does support WM7http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7528 states
(QCOM 8k, Nvidia “Tegra” AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
Qualcomm 8k = Snapdragon's QSD8xxx-series chips = Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (which is in the Leo).. so the processor should meet WM7 chassis 1 requirement.
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The processor does, but the Chassis 1 spec also specifies at least 1GB of flash (and at least 512mb fast flash).
The HD2 only comes with 512mb internal memory.
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The processor does, but the Chassis 1 spec also specifies at least 1GB of flash (and at least 512mb fast flash).
The HD2 only comes with 512mb internal memory.
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By 1GB of flash I believe that means available storage i.e. an SD card
Memory: 256MB+ DRAM, 1G+ Flash (at least 512MB fast flash – 5MB/s unbuffered read @4K block size)
I am not sure what fast flash means but these are minumum specs and doesn't mean the device can't run WM7, it may just lag in certain spots though somehow I doubt this thing will lag even on WM7
Is the specified 65k for the screen a hardware or software limitation? I know Windows Mobile 6.5 only supports 65k effective colors, but when WM 7 launches would the device be able to display more colors?
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Is the specified 65k for the screen a hardware or software limitation? I know Windows Mobile 6.5 only supports 65k effective colors, but when WM 7 launches would the device be able to display more colors?
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sure it does . they dont make "65K color display" !
Most mobile phone LCD screens are 262K colours (18-bit). (This includes many of the displays used on phones that are advertised as supporting 24-bit colour.)
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sure it does . they dont make "65K color display" !
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But does anyone know the actual maximum bit-depth of the display?
The GRIZZ said:
3- considering that its the best multimedia phone made by HTC, its lacking the TV-out and the FM-Radio transmitter and better camera(all of which are supported by the N97)
FM what? It still bedazzles me that people listen to FM radio these days. Surely most people have unlimited internet now and like I just use internet radio. More stations! As for the TV-out, again, I don't see the point really. Personally I use my netbook/laptop/pc for plugging into a tv since they can play HD. I supposed it would be nice if you want to show off photos to friends but then we all have facebook these days anyway For me, not a sore exclusion.
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Dude theres a difference between FM Receiver and FM Transmitter. A FM Transmitter is important for those who own a car. The FM Transmitter can be used to transmit Music at a certain frequency which can be tuned to in the car using the Cars FM Radio!
The HD2 already has a FM Receiver. It might also support FM Transmission capabilities but that depends on which chip its using.
Video Out is certainly a welcome addon. Showing off Photos on a LCD is way better than telling them to login to Facebook! I for one will surely miss the TV Out.
Inspite of that, I consider these two features to be of very less importance when compared to the other feature set. This is the THE KILLER phone everyone was waiting for!
Prefer Touch HD over HD2
I agree with Grizzly on almost every point he's been making so far. Before I catch the flames too I shall start with a story...
My HP iPAQ was stolen from a payphone booth within one minute where I forgot it at an airport a year ago. This was my first real PDA and I was extraordinarily disappointed. I had racked up a lot of apps on it and and had even made the home screen sexy and easy to use with a few mods. Going from interfacing my custom cycles with the PCR machine (lab work) to playing old favourites like SimCity 2000 in lectures was great!
The next thing I obviously wanted was a PDA PHONE, so I didn't have to use a payphone booth again... so I got the Touch HD when it just came out in Oz from Telstra (who still sell it for $1500 - 215% markup). And it was absolutely perfect. Did everything, well supported by the community, and using it as a phone and an organizer that synced with outlook it worked a charm. Then last month getting a taxi back from the pub, I was left at a busway because the taxi driver who was fresh from India could not find my home as it wasn't on the GPS. Calling another taxi I got mugged for it while I was using it, snatched it from my hand. So now I was faced with having to get a new phone.
I have bought a Touch HD again. You see, the HD2 as fantastic as it is, is half way between being a traditional WM phone and an Android phone. Without the use of a stylus, how can you hand write down meeting notes? How can I use all my legacy games and applications? What's the point of having something a little zippier when the new manilla (which is a bit too busy) is going to be hacked onto the Touch HD anyway and it doesn't have the Tegra for true gaming pwnage or audiophile quality audio or a true camera replacement camera? Also the lack of 3G camera ticks me off too. I can't video call my parents in NZ which although is horrendously expensive, I enjoy doing on birthdays and so on - on special occasions we're often away from our computers.
What I am going to do is stick with my tried and tested HD and see if the HD2 has any advantage over the Dragon before I upgrade. Or even other non-HTC devices (god forbid) should they provide Audio/Graphics advantages. Because really the point of this thing is to replace the need to carry around other devices. Otherwise just get something that is only a phone, right?
I just found this vid, shows the games on it and well there is only 1 teeter! How could they cut solitaire and bubble breaker! What am i gonna waste time with now...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntZQ0iXzyvc&feature=player_embedded
Its @ about 2:45
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our nitpicking will make it very easy for HTC to make the HD3 a better device.
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Very much so. HTC an enormous international company dedicated to producing a whole range of phones and mobile devices needs listen to random forum posters who can't even get their facts straight.
I'd like to take the opportunity to thank you for helping make the HD3 into the perfect device, derailing HTC's initial plans of improving the phone by removing the screen entirely and replacing it with a bar of soap. Your factual inaccuracies are making the mobile world a better place.
Since there is no dedicated off/on hardware ringer switch, is there a way to silence the phone while it is locked?
the volume rocker is normally used for something like that
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Very much so. HTC an enormous international company dedicated to producing a whole range of phones and mobile devices needs listen to random forum posters who can't even get their facts straight.
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Please spare us your fan-boyish drivel. What I mentioned in the OP are all valid concerns