I just received my CL850 virtual Keyboard today. Try to set up, it is easy - medium setup. It took me about 30 min from installing the drivers and connecting it to my HTC Tilt. It work on my WM 6.1 Dutty's Rom with a WM5 (the latest driver).
The keyboard overall is very good, if you want me to rates from 1-10 with 10 is the best, I will give 9. It is easy to type and adjust the sensitivity, I can see cleary even I am in very bright room. And the keyboard stroke sound can be adjust into four levels plus no sound, with quick function. So you don't need to be worry bothering other people if you are in a library.
The downsize of the keyboard: (1) it only can use on flat surface, so you need to place it on the table, (2) You can't assign a button on some of 4-unassign keyboard keys. I try to look at the manual so far but can't find any guide how to do it. I will try to contact a customer service if I can assign a button. It will be very helpful if I can assign those 2 soft left and right buttons key.
It is my first day got the item, I still need a further test and lets you guys know. Thanks
Nice, I've never seen a review on this keyboard before, only some previews. I have the iTech VKB but I don't like the fact that it lacks usb connection as I would like to connect it to my PC. Yes I know you can connect it with bluetooth but I would like to use it when entering the BIOS and also choosing OS to boot.
Does it work with USB on a standard PC without drivers or do you have to install the ones from Celluon? I'm asking this because I rarely use Windows. I read that it does indeed require drivers and therefore won't work on for ex. Linux based phones or Linux PC's.
I have an iTech VKB but it only has bluetooth and the quality is not that good. It tilts over easily too.
One problem with these keyboards are that if you typ a key that is between to IR sensor and another key you are typing it won't register. It does also not like too many simultaneous presses.
I really like the fact that you just need to swipe the table instead of opening the keyboard when it gets really dirty inside.
Well this is very interesting but It's expensive at least if ordering to Sweden.
I just got one today and It's the greatest "keyboard" I have used ever. It works all the way from bios to the Ubuntu desktop. It's much better than the itech vkb. The more solid construction prevents it from tilting as easy as the itech. It seems I have to adjust sensitivity however. The touch-pad feature is great and it feels to me like it supports multi-touch. Finally no more cleaning of the keyboard.
My current problem is scrolling in touch-pad mode. Arrows and dragging the right bar works but I would really like scrolling in the middle.
I thought the silverish button on the top was a push button but it was actually capacitive.
I haven't tried bluetooth because Ubuntu has currently big trouble with bluetooth.
Another problem is when playing games that require WASD and the mouse. The touch-pad feature won't work at the same time as the keyboard except the most basic buttons like ENTER and ARROWS.
PS. CTRL-ALT-DEL works (emergency reboot).
cl850 celluon laser keyboard/mouse on wm6?
I've gotten the keyboard to work via bluetooth and it works amazingly on my omnia wm6.1; had it working on previous dell axim x51v and palm tx... BUT, I haven't been able to get the mouse portion to work under wm... both keyboard and mouse work great in XP... any suggestions?
What drivers are you using and how did you set them up on wm6.1?
I have tried all the latest drivers from Celluon on my HTC Fuze p4600 and none will go.
I get an 'initialization error' when I try to run the setup util on the phone.
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What drivers are you using and how did you set them up on wm6.1?
I have tried all the latest drivers from Celluon on my HTC Fuze p4600 and none will go.
I get an 'initialization error' when I try to run the setup util on the phone.
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I get the same error when running the software on my Touch Diamond. This happens when running their app from the control panel.
From their site i've tried
SmartPhone [WM6.0] PKSetup_v1.9 / PocketPC WM6PPC_PKSetup_v1.9
Rob
Rob,
I did actually get this device to function with my p4600. I have since switched to another device, however, if I remember correctly I think it was the pocket PC 2003 drivers (not smart phone) that I FINALLY got to work, though the keyboard function was rather choppy while typing. You also have to start (and leave running) the Virtual KB app every time you want to use it.
Under XP, Vista and even Win7 the keyboard functions surprisingly well.. I just wish there were more support for mobile devices, which is where this device would really shine.
Interesing, i've just tried
Smartphone - [WM2003] PKSetup_v1.1.exe and it has a start menu app instead of control panel, that program does find the keyboard and it works. It seems accurate but its really slow, ie typing hello, you finish and then it start's its clicking noise and the letters appear.
The previous ones I tried was WM6.0 version 1.9 under both smartphone and PocketPC, although both zip files are identical size.
So when you used it and it was rather choppy, too slow to actaully use? Just wondering if the WM6 ones would work at a good speed if they worked.
http://www.celluon.com/common/data/list.html?a_gb=data&a_cd=3&a_item=0
The 2k3 drivers were the only ones I could get to function at all, and yes it was too slow to use. I assume this poor performance is not caused by a limitation of the phone or the keyboard because like I said in the previous post it functions flawlessly on a PC (XP,Vista and Win7) as well as with my Nokia (Symbian) device. This of course leads me to believe that if the correct driver or driver program existed and were used then this lag in typing would go away.
On another note it seems there are some people that have no problems using the WM6 drivers on their 6.1 devices which makes me think the incompatibility could reside on the device manufacturer side of things.. IE HTC has some setting or settings enabled/disabled in the OS which makes the driver program error out. I can only assume it would be an easy fix.. if it were just known what the problem is.
I have sent several messages to Celluon about this matter and receive nothing in return. I am afraid its just a defunct company at this point. Its ashame because its such a great little device. I don't think there are enough units out in the world to receive much community support.
oh man
I have one and I love it to death, but it does NOT get along with windows mobile 6.5
anybody seen any anything resembling a glimmer of hope? I've seen some of the stuff the xda beasts do, there has to be a way to get this to work.
Ive got the latest WM driver i could find on the celluon site & it all installed fine on my HD2 the only thing is i cant get it to connect via bluetooth, when i try & connect im asked for a passcode & whatever i enter it just says there was an error.
EDIT: Solved that, got all the way to selecting Projection Keyboard in the keyboard menu, then i get an error 'The security account database contains an internal inconsistency'
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I'm interested in switching to this from my Samsung i730 pocketpc/phone - basically looking for a device that will do all the same things - but be more usable with a terminal server.
Anyone have experience using it with a Terminal Server? I'm very interested in screen real-estate / resolution.
Thanks.
I use my ameo to connect to terminal server regularly, it's pretty good and very useful, the screen is usable especially with keys to jump to top left, top right middle, bottom left, bottom right rather then having to scroll around.
I use it often for my own servers and to support my customers. It's a life saver and works very well even over sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow GPRS.
i use it all the time and i have the kensington bluetooth mouse and the stowaway bluetooth keyboard hooked up and it all works very will with remote desktop. just make sure you get the wm6 version of remote desktop.
I use it all the time to connect to our servers at work to do jobs normally only available internally. Fantastic and plenty big enough.
Thanks for replies - that's my top issue, I can connect to a term. server with my i730, but the screen is stoo small to do anything useful.
The only other thing I will have to work out is portability.
I carry the i730 on a belt, I assume that won't work for the 7501. But carrying it on a belt means always and always having it on-hand. I'd have to do something similar with the 7501.
I'm reading that many people are treating it more as a mini-laptop then a pocketpc/phone - (ie, not always carrying it) - how do you guys handle it? I fear it will be sitting at home when I need to emergency connect to a terminal server.
BTW, I know I'd use a bluetooth headset for phone calls, and I thought about folable (and full size) bluetooth keyboards for data entry - but for some reason I never thought about a bluetooth mouse.
If I carry just the unit (without even the magnetic keyboard) by itself all the time, but have power/bluetooth keyboard & mouse available in a bag for trips... well, VERY tempting.
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Oh, almost forgot - 1 handed use! I assume that's out the window - especially reading ebooks 1 handed? Any way to hold the unit with 1 hand & turn pages with the same hand (without pain) ?
Thanks for all help!
HELP!
Got my HTC in today - trying terminal server. I can connect - sortof.
At the login screen, I don't seem to be able to type anything, with either the hard keyboard, or a sip. Can't change the username, can't type a password.
I have NOT gotten my cell sim chip yet, so I am doing this while connected/synched to my pc - dunno if that has something to do with it.
Any other ideas?
Found this reading the thread....
If the Keyboard isnt working for you it's because you installed the .cab to your storage card. There are scancode files in it that MUST go in the \windows folder, but installing it to a storage card puts them in \Storage Card\Windows.
Last post for now (haven't searches this answer yet).. is the appx. 16 colors I'm getting normal?
HI!
Does anyone know if there is a wireless keyboard that will support wm6.1? I bought an igo and it was fine on my jasjam (running wm5) but when I upgraded to wm6 it stopped working and igo will not release new drivers for it. I now have a kaiser but still want a wireless keyboard
If anyone could help that would be great!
Thanks
My igo stowaway worked fine on my wm6 kaiser... and works fine on my wm6.1 omnia
can you please tell me what driver you used? My igo stoaway keyboard only has drivers for wm5 and PPC2003
The stowaway 5 driver works fine on my kaiser... the omnia worked out of the box.
Here's the driver i use for my stowaway... works flawlessly.
thats the cab i tried to use too
What stowaway keyboards do you guys have? is it this one?
I'm curious, what do you guys use wireless keyboards for? I don't see the benefit since the built in keyboard is so great.
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I'm curious, what do you guys use wireless keyboards for? I don't see the benefit since the built in keyboard is so great.
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The built in keyboard is so....er... whats the world that isn't great... barely acceptable?
The stowaway on the other hand has proper keys, like the ones on a real pc keyboard. Along with a nice set of keyboard short cuts and a control key!
The built in one is fine for a quick text message. But if you're planning on doing any writing for longer that 10 minutes the stowaway is an amazingly good investment.
So If i'm on the train, I open my stowaway, put the pda on the built in stand, and type. just as quick as a laptop and nowhere near the bulk.
The one in the thumbnail looks very similar to mine.
all you need is
an external keyboard, larger external screen, better antenna, maybe some proper dasd...
Get a netPC!
I used it in landscape but here's someone with a Kaiser who used it in portrait...
I used to use the stowaway iGo keyboard with my Tilt, it's great for all the reasons psionandy said, but...
mrg2003 has a point, and so now the iGo is used with this:
BUT for the same reasons psionandy said... it also has a built-in qwerty, but to borrow on mrg2003's sarcasm, it IS a full Windows XP Pro computer, and setting it up as a portable workstation with an iGo and a mouse is a breeze.
Actually right now it's my desktop computer,too
Would I use my iGo keyboard with my Tilt again? Not really, because the built-in qwerty is good enough for on-the-go, and if I have plans to do more than momentary computing outside the home, I take the UX with the iGo and just use that. BUT... not everyone has a UX like I do, SO THAT SAID, if you want to do extended computing on your Tilt, yeah, the iGo keyboard is the WAY TO GO.
Tilt and Stowaway
Just got the IGo Stowaway for my AT&T Tilt and it seems to work out of the box with WM6.1 - except for the function commands (written in blue). Does anyone know if the driver is needed for the function commands to work properly, or are those "blue" commands on the Stowaway for some other PDA?
Thanks,
ClbGld
I love my Celio Redfly.
keyboard/monitor expander/powers my Tilt.
Works out of the box.
Smaller keyboard than the stowaway... much improved screen.
I use Apple Bluetooth keyboard and Apple Might Mouse xD
loving my Celio Redfly
I'm not sure why your iGo Stowaway isn't working. I had trouble getting it to work at first when I tried downloading the .cab directly from my Tilt. When I installed it off my PC it worked just fine. Maybe you have a corrupted .cab. I've been using my Celio Redfly almost exclusively lately and have to say it was the best $100 I've ever spent. It powers up instantly, has amazing battery life, and is very portable.
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I'm not sure why your iGo Stowaway isn't working. I had trouble getting it to work at first when I tried downloading the .cab directly from my Tilt. When I installed it off my PC it worked just fine. Maybe you have a corrupted .cab. I've been using my Celio Redfly almost exclusively lately and have to say it was the best $100 I've ever spent. It powers up instantly, has amazing battery life, and is very portable.
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Where did you find a RedFly for only $100?? I've been planning to get one, but $200 seemed a bit much.
Celio Redfly
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Where did you find a RedFly for only $100?? I've been planning to get one, but $200 seemed a bit much.
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Oops, sorry that was a typo. Don't like using the thumbboard for long text. It was $200. However, the new models that are coming out come in 2 flavors. I believe the smaller, more portable model will be under $200. Even at $200, it was worth it and not for oh aah factor either.
yeah I'm not sure why mine won't work. I've downloaded the driver again but it still won't work (although it will on my jasjam which runs wm5)
Is celio redfly a phone or a wireless keyboard?
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yeah I'm not sure why mine won't work. I've downloaded the driver again but it still won't work (although it will on my jasjam which runs wm5)
Is celio redfly a phone or a wireless keyboard?
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The Celio Redfly is a larger keyboard and 800x600 WVGA display extension device for your WM phone. You connect your phone to it via USB or Bluetooth and it replaces your phone's display and key entry functions. Plus, connecting by USB allows it to charge your phone while connected. It has no OS, memory or processor of it's own, using strictly what your phone can bring to the party. It's your WM phone, but with keys you can actually type on, and a display you can actually see; plus the ability to attach USB devices like a mouse. It resembles a small very lightweight laptop, and has about an 7-8 hr battery life. Just Google it for more info, my friend.
my keyboard works just fine on 6.1. i use the native built in WM driver. you dont get to use a lot of the functions on the keyboard (apps, ok, send, inbox etc) but it works just fine. and honestly, its worked on every single 6.1 rom i've used. something might be up w/ your keyboard
I'm using my old "Palm Bluetooth Keyobard model#3245W" no drivers just pair and its a "HID" device and thats it. Just type away....
Just no hotkeys or special stuff like that. I like it better because its a "Full Size qwerty keyboard" with numbers across the top.
Can anyone suggest a good bluetooth keyboard for the touch pro? Im planning to use it for typing down notes. has anybody here been using an external keyboard?
I've got an old foldup stowaway bluetooth keyboard (with a dell label)from thinkoutside - might me 'igo' now. I got working in about 10 seconds on my new touch pro. If you want something portable its great, and even has a little stand hat the tough pro can sit in, on its side or upright. The batteries last for months.
Freedom BT Universal Keyboard
I'm using for several years a BT Universal Keyboard of Freedom, link here
Working very well on my Unviversal, TyTN and TyTN II. Have had some problems with the drivers for WM 6.1. Another problem is getting additional unlock codes for use on your new PPC. I'm waiting now for about 2 weeks to get a new unlock code for my TP. The hardware is very good and the power consumption very little. Recommanded!
I have a Freedom Universal Keyboard that worked great with my Tilt. Unfortunately, I cannot get it to connect to my Fuze, and I've had many emails with tech support from Freedom and so far they haven't come up with an answer. It's not an unlock code issue, they were very prompt to email me a new unlock code when I switched to the Fuze. But for some reason, my Fuze won't recognize the keyboard.
I got spoiled having this keyboard with my Tilt, would take it to meetings, etc and type away rather than writing notes. I've got to figure out a new option for a keyboard.
I also have the Freedom Universal Keyboard, and it connected to my Fuze immediately with no issues (as opposed to my old Kaiser, which took multiple tries). Are you connecting with SPP or HID profiles? I connected with HID -- WM6 has HID drivers installed so you don't have to install any software.
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I also have the Freedom Universal Keyboard, and it connected to my Fuze immediately with no issues (as opposed to my old Kaiser, which took multiple tries). Are you connecting with SPP or HID profiles? I connected with HID -- WM6 has HID drivers installed so you don't have to install any software.
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I connect using HID. Do you mean that you don't run the BtHID software that Freedom Input keeps sending to me and having me install?
Seeking a portable keyboard for HTC Touch Pro and the formula to enable it
If any reader of this post would know where i might purchase a portable key board compatible with the HTC Touch Pro and what the formula, if such type keyboard exists, is, via which to enable such keyboard so that it can be used with an HTC Touch Pro, if whomever might have such information, would share such with me, i would be most grateful.
Bulletdodger
io am looking for a portable key board compatible with the HTC Touch Pro
looking for a portable key board compatible with the HTC Touch Pro
i am looking for a portable key board compatible with the HTC Touch Pro
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Do you mean that you don't run the BtHID software that Freedom Input keeps sending to me and having me install?
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Exactly -- I use the software built into WM6. Not using the
driver means that the programmed keys don't work (i.e. the shortcuts for launching apps), but I'm OK with that.
If you want something small, get yourself a FrogPad - they are one handed keyboards. Might take a little time to learn, but it wouldn't be too difficult. I've got a Bluetooth model here from my office, so I might test it out in the near future.
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Exactly -- I use the software built into WM6. Not using the
driver means that the programmed keys don't work (i.e. the shortcuts for launching apps), but I'm OK with that.
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How do you use the software built into WM6.1 to connect? I tried not using their software and just turning on the keyboard, but nothing happened? Could you walk me through what you do, if anything to get the keyboard to connect to the Fuze?
I didn't do anything special. I just turned the keyboard on in HID mode, pressed the pairing button (the round one with the letter B), and then put the Fuze into discovery mode (add new device in BT connection). The Fuze saw the keyboard, and asked for a passcode (I entered 0000). and promptly connected to the keyboard.
Hi all,
I have had my new HTC shift now for a week and a half. I have come to the conclusion that it is a V8 race car with four spark plugs removed, wheels replaced with those of a Morris Minor, and communications replaced with a Bakelite radio! (Apart from that it's brilliant)
When buying the shift I was slightly misled by the salesperson who sort of indicated that the SnapView side of the shift would be usable after it had been liberated. This is far from the truth.
I work with a government agency doing farm cropping experimentation work, I need my device to be able to communicate with multiple serial devices (such as data logging weather stations, electronic scales etc)
My Dell X50v did all that and much more (until my wife sat on it and broke the digitiser). I realise I can communicate to these devices using the PC side but there are times when I need the device to be connected for long periods running on battery only, and I had some very cool software that communicates extremely well and is very easy to use on the ppc side.
So here are some of my questions, (I have heaps lol, but this will do for a start)
1)Is there likely to be anyway we can have Windows Mobile communicate with anything? (Except its own Vista version or while Vista is running in the background)
2) I am running the latest versions of pocket office and ActiveSync or whatever you call it in Vista, however every time I try and save an Excel worksheet in WM6 I get the error message that tells me formatting will be lost and gives me the option to "save as". Every time I reopen the newly saved worksheet in Vista and re-save it then opened a gain in pocket Excel I get the same message again!. It's driving me nuts! They're all saved as Excel worksheets so they should work. Has anyone any ideas?
3) And finally just a quick question on the GPS. I have seen some post regarding the GPS in WM6, has this device got an inbuilt GPS? Will updating the ROM enable it?
3.) There are ROM's with GPS enabled, just have a look for them
2.) For me a Office install from CAB (cause my rom doesnt have office) did the Job
1.) windows Mobile can conenct to any internet address or what u like to connect it to ? You have your apps for your scales / serial stuff for windows mobile ?
Your serial stuff can be done with XP / Vista and a USB/Serial adapter
Greets
thank for the reply
with my old Axim i use a application called pocketDAQ It works so well and it relay data straight into pocket excell.
I guess I will just have to wait until some one get the usb or bluetooth working on the wm6 side
thanks
Hi all, i'm new to the shift scene and have a couple of questions:
1. I gather that the WM part of the device is an emulator running on Vista. Is there anyway to turn Vista off so its just WM that is running. (I guess not as the Shift has no WM capable hardware.)
2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
3. Has anyone got TF3D running on it?
4. Comming from the Xperia X1 forum, there are loads of ROMs for the X1. Are there any WM6.1 ROMs out there for the Shift?.
5. Can you use a bluetooth headset with this device
6. How much does XP speed up the device? How much does Win7 slow down the device? Can you have XP or Win7 running WM?
7. Can you run TomTom on the WM side?
Many Thanks
vinokirk said:
1. I gather that the WM part of the device is an emulator running on Vista. Is there anyway to turn Vista off so its just WM that is running. (I guess not as the Shift has no WM capable hardware.)
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1. You couldn't be more wrong. The WM side is actually a real smartphone built in to the shift mother board with it's own processor and all. WM is always on as long as there is power.
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2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
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2. Yes it can even do that out of the box with no hacking.
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3. Has anyone got TF3D running on it?
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3. TF3D is to demanding on the WM hardware built in to the shift so a no can do there. You will have to be happy with point ui at best.
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4. Comming from the Xperia X1 forum, there are loads of ROMs for the X1. Are there any WM6.1 ROMs out there for the Shift?.
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4. Yup just browse the forum.
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5. Can you use a bluetooth headset with this device
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5. No, since bt is attached to the computer part and not the phone there is no bt on wm. You cannot use wired head set even. Actually the only way to make calls is using speaker phone. You have to remember it's a computer with wm, not a phone with vista.
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6. How much does XP speed up the device? How much does Win7 slow down the device? Can you have XP or Win7 running WM?
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6. Errh, The q is how well does xp work and how much better will it work with W7 then vista, remember W7 is lighter then Visa and works better on portables then Xp.
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7. Can you run TomTom on the WM side?
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7. Possible in theory impossible practically, we do not have the space avalible on the WM for maps. We cannot use SD since it's attched to the computer not the phone. It is possible to use the computer hdd but it requieres the computer part to be running and that will drain the battery.
The shift is NOT a phone, it's a special device in its own category. One should us it as a additional device not as a phone replacement.
use google maps
you can use google maps instead of tomtom.
Gmaps is another type of app. I's map app, tomtom is a navigator.
Yes you can browse maps on the shift, but no navigation.
Josasp, many thanks for your answers!
Just comming back to a couple of your answers...
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1. You couldn't be more wrong. The WM side is actually a real smartphone built in to the shift mother board with it's own processor and all. WM is always on as long as there is power.
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Im sure I saw in a video a guy was saying how the WM part is an emulation on windows. So you can have the Win XP part totally off and just have the phone on?
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2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
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Can you make it clear that you mean you can send sms from the Vista side?
Josasp said:
7. Possible in theory impossible practically, we do not have the space avalible on the WM for maps. We cannot use SD since it's attched to the computer not the phone. It is possible to use the computer hdd but it requieres the computer part to be running and that will drain the battery.
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How much space is there on the WM side. You say we can use the WinXP hdd, so does that mean that the WM side can access the WinXP HDD? I would like to use TT navigator in my car, so there would be no probs with power. So people on here have got the GPS unit working then?
Last question, is it 3G? I will have a look myself now for this answer tho, I only just thought of it
ANSWER: Yes it does support 3G
This really is an intriguing device! If only you could make proper calls on it without it being on speakerphone!
Ofc you can SMS you have full wm fuctionality, the speakerphone issue is just that the shift is missing a earpice and access to headset, so it leaves the speakerphone the only option.
I'ts not only 3G it is also HSDPA wich is fater then regular 3G, but notice that there is a CDMA version avalible to that is NOT 3G.
Well the WM part is linked to the computer(vista) in two ways, the first is some sort of internal usb connection that we can turn on and off using "usb tool".
The other way is that the WM and Vista is linked i an internal local network (LAN) that allows vista to connect to the internet using WM as a router an modem, much like a regular home lan.
The fact that they are linked via lan allows for us to use shared folders between the devices in the device, i't works in the same way you share folders over a home network.
Using this shared folders feature we can use the Vista hdd but ONLY when the computer part is on. So there is no direct connection betweed the vista hdd and WM only the virtual share.
I't works but it drains battery and it's slightly buggy, it's not really a great solution.
What would be way better in your case is sharing the GPS module over the internal usb to vista. That is a lot less data and is way more stable.
There is some good navigation software for regular computers too, garmin has a software similar to thier WM software.
A solotion like that looks a lot more stable if you ask me.
Couple more questions:
1)So the GPS module is 'natively' attached to the WM side but you can access it from the WinXP side?
2)Can you confirm if you can send texts from the WinXP side, what program do you use to do it?
3)Can you confirm if you can have the WinXP side totally off and just run the WM side?
4)There are some people on ebay sellling wired headsets for the shift, but you say they dont work...i dont understand! are these seller lying???
5)When the screen is flipped up and your on the WM side, does it go into landspace view?
6)Can you use the hardware keyboard on the WM side?
7)Can you use the trackpad on the WM side?
1. Yes with custom rom like almost everything.
2. Text is sent from WM side perfectly no need for sending from visa/xp/whatever.
3. Well WM is always on as long as the battery is in, vista/xp you turn on/off with a switch.
4. They work only on the pc/vista/xp side for msn/skype/other not in the WM side.
5. The WM side is always in landcape, it is possible to rotate manually in the WM side if you want portrait but no auto switching.
6. Yes, it works very well.
7. Nope it's connected to the PC.
You have to think of the shift as two devices regardless of the fact that they do not appear so. Think of the shift as a laptop connected to phone with usb and lan. When you press the snapvue button the keyboard and the screen will switch between these devices, so it appears that they are the same device.
What does this mean?
Well it means that some things we will never get since they are only connected to pc, like true hdd access or touchpad access.
Some thing we however manage to get working in one of two ways, the first is by using some secret way that htc built in the device but decided not no use like the phone, the other way is by using some sort of software for wm or the pc to send stuff over the lan or usb between the wm and the pc, like sharing GPS or the hdd.
But using some software share requieres both sides to be on and that will drain battery, and attery is the main reason we want to use the wm side instead of the pc. If the pc would last as long as the wm we would not use the wm at all. So having the pc on in order to do some stuff in the wm sort of defeats the purpose of using the wm.
The mouse pad is for the PC side, but if you have the PC side running and connected to the WM side via the program USBTool, then it is possible to control WM with the mouse pad/mouse with a program that has been mentioned in these forums before. I have forgotten its name
Ahh nice one Flanimal
What about the reception on the Shift. Comming from the x1 which has notoriously bad reception!
Ahh nice one Flanimal
What about the reception on the Shift. Comming from the x1 which has notoriously bad reception!
Flanimal said:
The mouse pad is for the PC side, but if you have the PC side running and connected to the WM side via the program USBTool, then it is possible to control WM with the mouse pad/mouse with a program that has been mentioned in these forums before. I have forgotten its name
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I have remembered the name of this application that allows you to use the mouse and mouse pad in WM whilstVista/XP side is on. It's called trueconnect. It works very well.