Windows Update: Pub'd April 6, 08. Marvell Semiconductor Wireless LAN SDIO adapter - Shift General

Is this the update we have been waiting for to solve connectivity issues with SP1?

I guess this is just the wifi, so I guess not. Got my hopes up too soon.

I'm now using the wifi for surfing internet in SNAPVUE by the USBTool connecting to the VISTA!

eken said:
I'm now using the wifi for surfing internet in SNAPVUE by the USBTool connecting to the VISTA!
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Errhhh - I can't really see the point of that! What is really needed is to be able to use WiFI directly without Vista being booted up to save battery life. If Vista is running, you might just as well surf the net from there, and get a better experience to boot!
Personally, I'm not convinced that it will ever be possible to use WiFi from SnapVue directly, without having Vista booted. I'm of the opinion that the WM6 and Vista "sides" of the device are only connected via USB and both the SD card and WiFI/Bluetooth are on the Vista side of the device on the PCI bus.
I could be wrong of course, and hope to be proven wrong!
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Errhhh - I can't really see the point of that! What is really needed is to be able to use WiFI directly without Vista being booted up to save battery life. If Vista is running, you might just as well surf the net from there, and get a better experience to boot!
Personally, I'm not convinced that it will ever be possible to use WiFi from SnapVue directly, without having Vista booted. I'm of the opinion that the WM6 and Vista "sides" of the device are only connected via USB and both the SD card and WiFI/Bluetooth are on the Vista side of the device on the PCI bus.
I could be wrong of course, and hope to be proven wrong!
Regards,
Dave
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And the touch screen... and keyboard??? are used by both of system operators!!

killer_t said:
And the touch screen... and keyboard??? are used by both of system operators!!
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Yes, but that effect can be achieved using a manual switch box, so I'm of the opinion that is exactly what the "shift" button is connected to.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Yes, but that effect can be achieved using a manual switch box, so I'm of the opinion that is exactly what the "shift" button is connected to.
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do you know or guess?

An educated guess! If you look at say the SD card device under Vista, you'll see that it is on the internal PCI bus. I just doubt that this is "shared" with WM, but I do hope I'm wrong though as that on its own would make the VM side far more useful to me - that being said though the fact that I've got a Citrix client, Hamachi, and Remote Desktop on the device has already made if very useful indeed!
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I just doubt that this is "shared" with WM,
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Yeah, me too.
but I do hope I'm wrong though
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Yeah, me too.

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vogue and connecting to internet through bluetooth?

im new to any form of htc or palm(any windows based phone). my blackberry i could do a bunch of stuff without having internet through various simulators and whatnot. i was interested in getting the touch because i believed it had wifi, but know i realized that it doesnt(still havent purchased it.)
so my questions are
will the phone be able to receive a internet signal through bluetooth? as in i connect my phone to my macbook, i should receive a connection.
if i connect it to the computer via usb will i be able to download applications just like if i had the internet plan?? i really do not need the phone to be able to have internet at all times, just for downloading apps. i mainly use smartphones for there planning and scheduling abilities.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
just some side info, switching from sprint is not an option, nor is getting a information plan, as im a broke college kid.
Not sure about the bluetooth, it should be possible though.
As for the USB yes, infact if you are downloading applications do this over your regular internet if you don't have unlimited wireless internet from your provider. Applications can be quite big and you can hit your download limit very easily this way.
thanks a bunch, i went and checked the phone out today and i liked it a bunch. once again, and to not start another new thread thats probably answered somewhere, is it possible to send ringtones to the phone through usb?
hockeyizlife94 said:
thanks a bunch, i went and checked the phone out today and i liked it a bunch. once again, and to not start another new thread thats probably answered somewhere, is it possible to send ringtones to the phone through usb?
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Sure, you can do that and much more (including internet connection sharing) by USB or Blue Tooth, through ActiveSync...
great, oct 1st is the day...already bought a case and microsd card..
hockeyizlife94 said:
great, oct 1st is the day...already bought a case and microsd card..
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HTC announced the Touch 3g and Touch HD which look very similar to the Vogue. I'm not sure when these devices will be released but they have the features you seem to be looking for (WiFi). If you wait a little bit, you may, or may not be happier with the 3g or HD.
Just some information in case you never heard of these devices yet.
http://www.htc.com/www/default.aspx
EDIT: I am not sure about connecting a vogue to a mac, as it requires activesync to connect which is a Microsoft product. Most newer macs allow you to run windows xp, so it should be no problem. Also, when the phone is connected via USB, it will not use your regular DSL/Cable connection to access the internet. You will need to download the applications on your computer first, then transfer to the phone via activesync.
There's also the Mogul which is out now that has built in wifi. Prices are low and should be dropping as newer phones come out. Good for a broke college student.
nosco said:
HTC announced the Touch 3g and Touch HD which look very similar to the Vogue. I'm not sure when these devices will be released but they have the features you seem to be looking for (WiFi). If you wait a little bit, you may, or may not be happier with the 3g or HD.
Just some information in case you never heard of these devices yet.
http://www.htc.com/www/default.aspx
EDIT: I am not sure about connecting a vogue to a mac, as it requires activesync to connect which is a Microsoft product. Most newer macs allow you to run windows xp, so it should be no problem. Also, when the phone is connected via USB, it will not use your regular DSL/Cable connection to access the internet. You will need to download the applications on your computer first, then transfer to the phone via activesync.
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yea i saw those, im just thinking they are gunna be out of my price range because they will be brand new, kinda need the phone asap because my blackberry gave up on life and my back up isnt smart, i need smartphone lol
nosco said:
Also, when the phone is connected via USB, it will not use your regular DSL/Cable connection to access the internet. You will need to download the applications on your computer first, then transfer to the phone via activesync.
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Actually the phone can connect to the Internet via desktop DSL/Cable when they are USB linked.... but you'd never do that just to get apps on you phone. It's really only useful for syncing email to your phone when you don't have a data plan for the the phone.
Sprint HTC Touch internet thru bluetooth
So has anyone been able to figure out how to connect to the internet thru bluetooth to your PC/MAC? For example: If you are in an area that doesn't have cell coverage at all (Sprint or roaming) if you have an internet connection on your PC/MAC (DSL, Cable, etc.) can you connect to the computer thru bluetooth and access the internet on the Touch? It would be great for VOIP like Skype(out).
So I am not asking how to connect your computer to the internet thru your phone. Just the opposite, actually. Specifically asking for MAC.
j.c.briggs said:
So has anyone been able to figure out how to connect to the internet thru bluetooth to your PC/MAC? For example: If you are in an area that doesn't have cell coverage at all (Sprint or roaming) if you have an internet connection on your PC/MAC (DSL, Cable, etc.) can you connect to the computer thru bluetooth and access the internet on the Touch? It would be great for VOIP like Skype(out).
So I am not asking how to connect your computer to the internet thru your phone. Just the opposite, actually. Specifically asking for MAC.
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Just have to enable data connections in Activesync or WMDC
denasqu said:
Just have to enable data connections in Activesync or WMDC
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i think its more then that. i found a link about connecting it but i cant find it now...you would have to go into the computers bt settings and change some stuff, and the phones..
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
hockeyizlife94 said:
i think its more then that. i found a link about connecting it but i cant find it now...you would have to go into the computers bt settings and change some stuff, and the phones..
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
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Yeah, I read too quickly and missed the BT requirement.
I tether using bluetooth with my mac book, you can use Internet connection sharing or pda net, and use the btpan feature.

Surf the web on Hero with PC connection/HTC Sync

Hi guys, i would like to know if it's possible to navigate on Hero with the PC connection just like on Windows Mobile with ActiveSync. Thanks
not out of the box, no. HTC Sync is not designed to allow that.
I don't hook mine up to the PC at all so i don't know of any workarounds or third party apps, but i am sure that if it is possible, someone here will know how.
I know this has been asked before, and i have a nasty suspicion the answer may well be no.
Ok, thanks for the quick reply. This means that i have to wait a week before starting navigate with my Hero.. i've got a problem with my operator atm and i can't subscribe a data connection
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Do any of the custom roms around here allow it?
I am able to do this on an older HTC Touch Diamond.
Wond3r said:
Do any of the custom roms around here allow it?
I am able to do this on an older HTC Touch Diamond.
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You could do it on a Touch Diamond, because this has long been a function of WinMo. I'm not aware if this is even possible within the versions of Android currently available, but I'm sure it will come eventually.
Regards,
Dave
Can you not use your pc as an access point and connect your hero to it via wifi for internet sharing?
xxThugxx @ TPB said:
Can you not use your pc as an access point and connect your hero to it via wifi for internet sharing?
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How would I do that?
first of all, youd have to find a hero that actually works with an Ad-Hoc connection!
Do you not have a wifi network at home? if so, just hook it up to that and use your broadband.

HD2 as wifi signal repeater?

I know this is a very long shot but I can access the internet through my router on my laptop and phone but my desktop can't seem to find it (it is quite old). I was just wondering if I could use my phone as a repeater for the signal?
Thanks
yeoldgreat1 said:
I know this is a very long shot but I can access the internet through my router on my laptop and phone but my desktop can't seem to find it (it is quite old). I was just wondering if I could use my phone as a repeater for the signal?
Thanks
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I'd say no chance to... Windows Seven (desktop) installs a software "miniport" which is a virtual wifi pendrive to do exactly that with your desktop. AFAIK there's nothing like it for Windows Mobile, and obviously while you're hooked on your wifi network with your hd2, you cannot use it for another purpose as well
ephestione said:
I'd say no chance to... Windows Seven (desktop) installs a software "miniport" which is a virtual wifi pendrive to do exactly that with your desktop. AFAIK there's nothing like it for Windows Mobile, and obviously while you're hooked on your wifi network with your hd2, you cannot use it for another purpose as well
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Is there a way to make the Internet Sharing function use a wifi network rather than the mobile web?
WMWifirouter can do it, it has lots of different modes, including one that effectively turns your phone into an USB wifi adapter, so you can access wifi on your computer with it via usb.
kilrah said:
WMWifirouter can do it, it has lots of different modes, including one that effectively turns your phone into an USB wifi adapter, so you can access wifi on your computer with it via usb.
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That program works really well, thanks for your help!
fqrouter2 is the solution
Use fqrouter2 for rooted Android devices and you have a perfectly working WiFi Repeater (available free in Google Play Store)

Htc hero internet help required

Hi there
i am new to android i recently purchase htc hero prior to this i was using htc raphael touch pro
my query is
in my touch pro i was able to surf internet on my mobile through my pc using the active sync from my pc
is there any way through which i can use my adsl internet from my pc to my htc hero
please help
If I was at my PC, I'd use my PC for the internet!
But hey, horses for courses eh.
No its not something I've heard anyone mention before. I take it you don't have WiFi then?
May be worth investing.
looking at HTCs website - does this work?
http://www.htc.com/www/howto.aspx?p_id=283&id=163
captainstu72 said:
looking at HTCs website - does this work?
http://www.htc.com/www/howto.aspx?p_id=283&id=163
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From my understanding he wants to do the opposite,... The hTC link is to use your phones data connection to connect your PC to internet,... I think they want to use their PC's internet connection to be able to surf on the phone?
ahh okay, my bad.
if the pc has a wireless card but the router isn't, you can set up an ad-hoc wireless network - but thats not something I have done on my hero, only with my elfs.
I'll have a look and see what I can find on my lunch break
ddotpatel said:
From my understanding he wants to do the opposite,... The hTC link is to use your phones data connection to connect your PC to internet,... I think they want to use their PC's internet connection to be able to surf on the phone?
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yes you are right in my office there is no wifii connection. previously i was using my pc internet connection on my phone
only for updating the apps and chatting through phone coz pc are monitored
aarif_ziaee said:
yes you are right in my office there is no wifii connection. previously i was using my pc internet connection on my phone
only for updating the apps and chatting through phone coz pc are monitored
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OK,... So what CaptainStu says might be possible,... try to do a little research yourself if you can and post back what you find,... Just to save CaptainStu some legwork.
done a bit of googling on my lunch -
http://android.modaco.com/content/t...704/reverse-tethering-and-the-t-mobile-pulse/ post 9 may be of use - but I don't know if you are using a Linux PC. I haven't tried myself, but it is interesting to see what can happen.
Also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666988
http://forums.androidandme.com/topic/internet-over-usb
Hope these help
Stu

[REQ] USB reverse tethering

Does anyone else not wish that we could get internet on our phones from a computer? It baffles me how no one seems to think that being able to siphon an internet connection from ANY available computer with a wired internet connection is a good idea.
Cant you guys see how useful that would be when a free and good wifi network isn't available?
1. Imagine youre travelling overseas and dont want to pay exorbitant charges for data roaming.
2. Youre in a place with no wifi and you are unwilling/unable to download loads of data over 3g.
3. Or you simply have an unreliable 3g connection.
Come on, this seems as essential to me as regular tethering. Its a feature available on dinosaur winmo phones and lesser htc phones( called internet passthrough). Why is it not on this phone which is so much superior in so many respects?
Please, if you feel the same way or agree with me, show some support here so we can catch the attention of some devs who can actually do something about this.
Cheers
I ususally use connectify me to host a wifi spot on my computer and connect my phone to it.
No can do Devs are all busy working on a search button .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206655&highlight=USB+reverse+tethering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123370&highlight=USB+reverse+tethering
jje
rocketpaul said:
I ususally use connectify me to host a wifi spot on my computer and connect my phone to it.
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Yeah i know of connectify, but you need to install it on your OWN computer thats running WINDOWS. I would like to 'steal' an internet connection from ANY computer(where i dont have permission to go installing software on).
Omission of this feature by samsung is a massive fail.
JJEgan said:
No can do Devs are all busy working on a search button .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206655&highlight=USB+reverse+tethering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123370&highlight=USB+reverse+tethering
jje
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Thanks for the links. Well thats a shame, I was hoping to garner some interest.
Excuse my obvious ignorance, but if our phones already have ability to supply internet to computers via a usb cable, how difficult could it be for the reverse?
nanujra said:
Yeah i know of connectify, but you need to install it on your OWN computer thats running WINDOWS. I would like to 'steal' an internet connection from ANY computer(where i dont have permission to go installing software on).
Omission of this feature by samsung is a massive fail.
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So to clarify, you'd like to be able to plug your phone into a computer and have the computer automagically be able to supply an internet connection to the phone, without installing any additional software?
And you feel this is a feature which Samsung omitted?
That's simply not going to happen. HTC do it via software, HTC Sync, which must be installed on the PC. Hacky methods also exist to be able to make internet pass-through work on Linux.
But to expect a feature to work by simply plugging a USB cable into any computer without software installed is pretty absurd. If this is important to you, I'd suggest you lobby the operating system vendors.

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