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I just upgraded from an XDAii, and obviously there are many advantages, but also many disadvantages. Let me run through a few of my qualms and see if you can help with any.
1. Less "toolbars" in programs
For example, the photo album app in XDAii had a row of buttons for slideshow, start, stop, full screen, rotate, etc etc.... Most of this is accessible through the menu system, but full screen seems to be missing comletely.
Also the calendar comes to mind. The row of buttons for day, week, month and year was a godsend
2. speaker screech
Anything over a certain noise level seems to come though in a really piercing way that I have to hold the phoneawayfrom my ear
3. Phone pad not working in messaging
The phone pad entry method, the one that replicates the keypad of a normal mobile phone, cannot be used for the thing it would be most commonly used for - SMS messaging. WHY?!?!
4. Phone "themes" missing
Remember in the photo contacts app, where you could apply different themes to contacts when they call, like the row of carrots, or the glistening heart? What happened to that?
5. Less hardware buttons
The contacts and calendar hardware buttons have been replaced by an extra row on the screen. Yes, there are buttons on the keyboard which link to them, but that doesn't help me when trying to configure 3 control buttons in Worms, does it.
6. Add ringtones?
Ok we have ups and downs here. On the plus side, MP3 ringtones are now supported. On the flipside, you can't file them into folders, they have to place in the My Documents route directory in order to be accessible. Is there a way round this?
I hope someone can help me. Any info you can give will be much appreciated
GaZ said:
1. Less "toolbars" in programs
For example, the photo album app in XDAii had a row of buttons for slideshow, start, stop, full screen, rotate, etc etc.... Most of this is accessible through the menu system, but full screen seems to be missing comletely.
Also the calendar comes to mind. The row of buttons for day, week, month and year was a godsend
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This is an annoying one and I don't know of a fix for it. The first part is down the to album program I think, if it is just called 'Pictures' then it is the one which came with mine too and it isn't very good at all. I replaced it with Resco Photo Viewer. As for the calendar part, those buttons you mentioned are accessed through 'menu' - again, annoying and takes more time.
Anyone?
hmmmm...... oki doki, not sure if i can help.... but lets step through....
I just upgraded from an XDAii, and obviously there are many advantages, but also many disadvantages. Let me run through a few of my qualms and see if you can help with any.
BEFORE WE GET TO FAR, THERE ARE ISSUES HERE, MANY OF THEM, AND THEY MAY OUTWEIGH THE ADVANTAGES.
1. Less "toolbars" in programs
For example, the photo album app in XDAii had a row of buttons for slideshow, start, stop, full screen, rotate, etc etc.... Most of this is accessible through the menu system, but full screen seems to be missing comletely.
THE M$ VERSIONS ARE EXTREMELY CUT DOWN, BRIEF FUNCTIONALITY, AND THIS IS THE FIRST THAT DOESNT COMPARE TO PURCHASABLE OPTIONS, AND THERE ARE A VARIETY OF THEM.
IN THE END, ITS STILL OK, BUT NEXT TO USELESS.
AGREE, USE RESCO, BUT BEWARE IT IN ITSELF IS MEMORY HUNGRY FOR THE FUNCTION.
Also the calendar comes to mind. The row of buttons for day, week, month and year was a godsend
ITS STILL IN THE OPTIONS, BUT IF THAT IS YOUR ONLY COMPLAINT ON CALENDAR, THEN YOUR DOING WELL.
2. speaker screech
Anything over a certain noise level seems to come though in a really piercing way that I have to hold the phoneawayfrom my ear
DONT GET IT, GETS A BIT TINNY AT HIGH VOLUME. GS PLAYER HAS A BASE AND EQUALISER BUILT IN AND PLAYS BETTER QUALITY SOUND THAN M$, AND IS FREE.
3. Phone pad not working in messaging
The phone pad entry method, the one that replicates the keypad of a normal mobile phone, cannot be used for the thing it would be most commonly used for - SMS messaging. WHY?!?!
DIDNT YOU GET THE UNIVERSAL THAT HAD A KEYBOARD!!!???
4. Phone "themes" missing
Remember in the photo contacts app, where you could apply different themes to contacts when they call, like the row of carrots, or the glistening heart? What happened to that?
NEVER USED THEMES, STARTED TO USE PICTURES WHICH IS AVAILABLE, ALONG WITH INDIVIDUAL RING TONES (INDIVIDUALLY THOUGH, NOT BY CATEGORY WHICH IS PAINFUL WHEN YOU HAVE LOTS). CANT YOU JUST APPLY THE THEME LIKE YOU WOULD A PICTURE? INSIDE CONTACTS.
5. Less hardware buttons
The contacts and calendar hardware buttons have been replaced by an extra row on the screen. Yes, there are buttons on the keyboard which link to them, but that doesn't help me when trying to configure 3 control buttons in Worms, does it.
I ALSO APPLIED THE "VIDEO CALL" BUTTON TO CALENDAR, AND THERE IS A CUSTOMISABLE BUTTON FOR CONTACTS THAT ARE NEXT TO THE TWO SOFT KEY BUTTONS. THE MOMENT YOU GO INSIDE AN APP, THE SOFT KEYS CHANGE, AND I ALWAYS NEED QUICK ACCESS TO CONTACTS AND CALENDAR, SO IN EFFECT ON A TODAY SCREEN, I HAVE TWO BUTTONS TO ACCESS CONTACTS/CALENDAR.
6. Add ringtones?
Ok we have ups and downs here. On the plus side, MP3 ringtones are now supported. On the flipside, you can't file them into folders, they have to place in the My Documents route directory in order to be accessible. Is there a way round this?
\WINDOWS\RINGS
BUT STILL NO SUB DIRECTORIES, BUT AT LEAST THEY DONT CLUTTER A USELESS MYDOCS.
I hope someone can help me. Any info you can give will be much appreciated
AGAIN, THERE ARE MUCH GREATER ISSUES IN THE UNIVERSAL THAN THOSE MENTIONED ABOVE. I THINK IF THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, AND YOU ARE HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, BE GRATEFUL.
I realise there are many side steps around my issues, but they're some of the thing that made me love my XDAii. Like the hardware buttons, made it so easy to use PocketSNES. You turned it sideways and instantly had a d-pad on your left, and 4 buttons on your right (just like a SNES pad). And calendar, I know it has the options on the menu, but I miss the quick functionality.
Oh, and yes my Exec obviously does have the QWERTY keypad, but this isn't always conveniant when walking, or holding many bags, or drinking in a crowded pub. The phone pad was the texting solution I've been waiting for for years, and doesn't work in the application it's needed most in :x
Thanks for informing me of the windows\rings folder. That's one bonus at least.
So what are your qualms with the Exec? I'm guessing deeper things like memory useage and stuff?
none really, I am happy thru n thru
weight n size perhaps. the price for a double thumb keyboard...
I just read a lot of negative comments and complaints and few people saying how good it is overall for price n quantity of gadgets in such a small package.
Ok, The toolbar thing is a bit annoying at first, but you get used to it and I prefer the aesthetics of a 'cleaner' looking screen without all sorts of icons at the bottom making everything look untidy (personal preference though). Lack of hardware buttons on the face of the phone when it's in PDA mode is not something I've even thought about, but I can see how it would cause issues for game-players. Bit of a shame, but I doubt if it's a consideration for many OEM's, they don't really build WM phones with gaming ergonomics as a high priority issue...
Not had problems with the speaker, and sticking ringtones in the \Windows\Rings folder is good enough for me - why would you need to sub-categorise them? Unless you have dozens of them that you change on a daily basis?
I'm interested in your comment that the "Phone pad" doesn't work in the Messaging app though? Mine works perfectly well...is this something that others have problems with? Maybe you have a dodgy ROM or something?
Oh, and I never knew that the theme could be changed depending on who was calling? Didn't that take aaaaages, and slow the response of the phone down to a crawl!?
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Ok, The toolbar thing is a bit annoying at first, but you get used to it and I prefer the aesthetics of a 'cleaner' looking screen without all sorts of icons at the bottom making everything look untidy (personal preference though). Lack of hardware buttons on the face of the phone when it's in PDA mode is not something I've even thought about, but I can see how it would cause issues for game-players. Bit of a shame, but I doubt if it's a consideration for many OEM's, they don't really build WM phones with gaming ergonomics as a high priority issue...
Not had problems with the speaker, and sticking ringtones in the \Windows\Rings folder is good enough for me - why would you need to sub-categorise them? Unless you have dozens of them that you change on a daily basis?
I'm interested in your comment that the "Phone pad" doesn't work in the Messaging app though? Mine works perfectly well...is this something that others have problems with? Maybe you have a dodgy ROM or something?
Oh, and I never knew that the theme could be changed depending on who was calling? Didn't that take aaaaages, and slow the response of the phone down to a crawl!?
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I never knew about the windows\rings folder before posting this so that answered that one.
As for phone pad, it definitely isn't working in messaging, so I may try a newer ROM, but only if it can be downloaded from the official O2 site.
The phone themes, did indeed slow it down, but I thought rather than exclude them they'd work on it and make them better.
GaZ said:
The phone pad was the texting solution I've been waiting for for years, and doesn't work in the application it's needed most in :x
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Seriously, you must be the only person on this planet that was wishing for that - you have a keyboard and a keyboard on the screen... what the heck :shock:
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GaZ said:
The phone pad was the texting solution I've been waiting for for years, and doesn't work in the application it's needed most in :x
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Seriously, you must be the only person on this planet that was wishing for that - you have a keyboard and a keyboard on the screen... what the heck :shock:
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As you may have read if you looked at my previous reply, the keyboard is no good for one handed use (ie: whilst holding a pint in a crowded pub)
Ok, I just picked up a cingular 8525 today and had a few questions I wanted to ask you guys.
First, I was told there is a program out there that closes down the programs when you click the x instead of minimizing it. Where can I find this program?
Second, is there an AIM client for this phone that I can get somewhere? Is it free? Please post any links for that.
Third, do any of you have any second thoughts about putting the phone directly in your pocket with nothing else in there? I am wondering how safe it is for this phone to be in just a pocket. I was looking at perhaps one of those hard metal cases for it, but as a student and person I like my phone in my pocket. What solutions can you folks offer?
Thanks a lot
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Ok, I just picked up a cingular 8525 today and had a few questions I wanted to ask you guys.
First, I was told there is a program out there that closes down the programs when you click the x instead of minimizing it. Where can I find this program?
Second, is there an AIM client for this phone that I can get somewhere? Is it free? Please post any links for that.
Third, do any of you have any second thoughts about putting the phone directly in your pocket with nothing else in there? I am wondering how safe it is for this phone to be in just a pocket. I was looking at perhaps one of those hard metal cases for it, but as a student and person I like my phone in my pocket. What solutions can you folks offer?
Thanks a lot
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You can close properly using (and there's loads more out there):
Magic Button (also shows running apps. on task bar)
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
or HTC's X button on this sites wiki (presumably thoroughly compatible as it's made by HTC)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils
an AIM example Agile Messanger (seems to be a question whether it's free or not)
http://www.agilemobile.com/downloads.html
or MSN there is a thread on this in this forum
Also check this forna few other ideas:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1054903&highlight=mikechannon#post1054903
as well as apps by sleuth255 and vijay555 who have developed quite a few goodies.
As to keeping in pocket, I wouldn't for fear of developing the Screen Alignment problem. I use leather pouch mine came with.
Mike
thanks for the fast response, one thing i forgot to ask, is there a website anywhere where i can get games for it? thanks
SuperMoose said:
thanks for the fast response, one thing i forgot to ask, is there a website anywhere where i can get games for it? thanks
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Here's a few mostly freeware. Lots of rubbish in these but some maybe worth it. Better ones, say doom etc just lookup with WM5 (or windows CE) added into a search on Google.
http://www.pdagold.com/software/list.asp?p=1
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/tags.php?tag=clocks&order=date&page=2
http://www.getjar.com/software/universal/all/Applications/Email/set2
Mike
last question for today i hope, how do i change ringtones to something custom? I transferred the mp3 i want to the phone, where do i put it in order to get it to show up in the directory to select ringtones?
thanks again, you have been most helpful and it is appreciated
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last question for today i hope, how do i change ringtones to something custom? I transferred the mp3 i want to the phone, where do i put it in order to get it to show up in the directory to select ringtones?
thanks again, you have been most helpful and it is appreciated
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if you tick and hold on the file it will bring up your options like copy/paste, etc.. it will also give you the option to set as ringtone
mikechannon said:
You can close properly using (and there's loads more out there):
Magic Button (also shows running apps. on task bar)
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
or HTC's X button on this sites wiki (presumably thoroughly compatible as it's made by HTC)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils
an AIM example Agile Messanger (seems to be a question whether it's free or not)
http://www.agilemobile.com/downloads.html
or MSN there is a thread on this in this forum
Also check this forna few other ideas:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1054903&highlight=mikechannon#post1054903
as well as apps by sleuth255 and vijay555 who have developed quite a few goodies.
As to keeping in pocket, I wouldn't for fear of developing the Screen Alignment problem. I use leather pouch mine came with.
Mike
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Keep my new Cingular 8525 in my pocket with my Monaco Aluminum Case from Dealone. No problems, all buttons accessible and if keyboard is needed, simply pop open cover and slide top forward. Black in color. I really like the protection and peace of mind this case gives.
balld said:
Keep my new Cingular 8525 in my pocket with my Monaco Aluminum Case from Dealone. No problems, all buttons accessible and if keyboard is needed, simply pop open cover and slide top forward. Black in color. I really like the protection and peace of mind this case gives.
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That sounds like a good solution to me.
Mike
SuperMoose said:
I transferred the mp3 i want to the phone, where do i put it in order to get it to show up in the directory to select ringtones?
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If you put the MP3 file in \Windows\Rings it will show in your list of available ringtones.
Philip said:
If you put the MP3 file in \Windows\Rings it will show in your list of available ringtones.
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This is right of course, as is shogunmarks solution of :"if you tick and hold on the file it will bring up your options like copy/paste, etc.. it will also give you the option to set as ringtone"
Either way I prefer to keep my ringtone in device memory rather than storage card. The reason for this is that I, along with some others have discovered that storing on SD card can cause freezing when phone rings or a lengthy delay before phone begins to ring. Some others have also reported that mp3s, particularly larger file sized ones can also cause delays. On this matter I tend to stick to basic short file sized Windows Audio fornatted tones just to ensure as rapid a response from the phone as possible when calls come in. (Not very adventurous I know, but still...)
Mike
Any body knws where i can get visual studio for my m3100
luke1708 said:
Any body knws where i can get visual studio for my m3100
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http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/default.aspx
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa700832.aspx
Mike
Thanks mate!
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This is right of course, as is shogunmarks solution of :"if you tick and hold on the file it will bring up your options like copy/paste, etc.. it will also give you the option to set as ringtone"
Either way I prefer to keep my ringtone in device memory rather than storage card. The reason for this is that I, along with some others have discovered that storing on SD card can cause freezing when phone rings or a lengthy delay before phone begins to ring. Some others have also reported that mp3s, particularly larger file sized ones can also cause delays. On this matter I tend to stick to basic short file sized Windows Audio fornatted tones just to ensure as rapid a response from the phone as possible when calls come in. (Not very adventurous I know, but still...)
Mike
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well when you tick and hold and choose set as ringtone it copies the file to that folder.. or at least it did on my 8125
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well when you tick and hold and choose set as ringtone it copies the file to that folder.. or at least it did on my 8125
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I don't disagree with you. I could have been clearer in what I said. It is possible to put ring tones on storage card and assign them without obviously putting them in the rings folder or using your way of getting them there. All I meant to do was issue a cautionary note about lengthy ring tones in non windows audio format being stored on SD card - this warning Does NOT apply to your method of assigning the ringtone.
Hope this clarifies - mind you reading it I'm not so sure!
Mike
when looking for a wifi network is there some sort of browser to use so you can choose which one? also how do you clean the screen on the phone? rubbing alcohol and a water mix?
SuperMoose said:
when looking for a wifi network is there some sort of browser to use so you can choose which one? also how do you clean the screen on the phone? rubbing alcohol and a water mix?
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Good app. to connect to and see available wifi networks
http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/
Wifi on radar type screen or list view (good to look at but doesn't really help to connect) If you are GPS enabled it shows remarkable true radar type image of networks around. With no GPS you still get radar but really only illusion of radar as it tells distance only not direction. Looks good though.
http://www.clickapps.com/moreinfo.h...PC&PHPSESSID=dab6151724de5b0e1826422f04a6d521
As for cleaning screen I just use a tissue barely more than damp without any chemicals - seems to work ok.
Mike
Well the topic says it all.
I want to add a sound to the opening and/or closing of the keyboard.
Is this possible?
Thanks
Any hacks for this? I suppose that the opening of the keyboard calls some kind of an event (since sliding it open changes the screen orientation) So can this same event call be used to assign a sound as well?
I also want to kno this and was going to ask right before I came 2 see this link...so please answer!
There are some really talented people here. I would have thought someone would have done this by now. But I assume, from lack of info, that this hasn't been considered before?
Would someone, who has the skill set to do this, consider looking into it and seeing if it is possible?
Thanks a million!!
Have a good one
Try this thread.....
Cheers!
That thread refers to the Herald, or Tmobile Wing. I found this thread and thats all I've been able to find for the Wizard or Tmobile MDA.
There may be a registry key that needs to be modified/added after installing the HTC Sliding Sounds application to make it 'active' for the Wizard.
Any ideas?
Im trying to figure it out too.. I dunno how to get it to initiate...
Need someone with the Herald (T-Mobile Wing) to help
Under HKEY\LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SlidingSound there are 2 keys 'ActiveSlidingSound' and 'SlidingSoundEffect', these are for setting which sound of the 3 available to use, I'm assuming.
Anyone out there know someone with a Herald or T-Mobile Wing that is willing to share what they have in this folder in their registry?? Maybe there's and EnableSound key or something to that effect that us Wizard users can add and we'll have a happy day!
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Under HKEY\LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SlidingSound there are 2 keys 'ActiveSlidingSound' and 'SlidingSoundEffect', these are for setting which sound of the 3 available to use, I'm assuming.
Anyone out there know someone with a Herald or T-Mobile Wing that is willing to share what they have in this folder in their registry?? Maybe there's and EnableSound key or something to that effect that us Wizard users can add and we'll have a happy day!
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I just checked mine and under SlidingSound, there are 3 folders... 0, 1, and 2. Each folder has 3 keys... Default, in, and out. "Default" is the name for the sounds (ex: Wind Chimes, Piano, and Xylophone), "in" is the location of the file used for when the keyboard slides in (ex: Slider0_in.wav), and the same applies to "out" for when the keyboard slides out (ex: Slider0_out.wav).
Also inside the SlidingSound folder are 2 more keys... ActiveSlidingSound and SlidingSoundEffect. ActiveSlidingSound refers to which sliding sound you want to use... so in this case it would be one of the 3 folders mentioned above (0,1, or 2). SlidingSoundEffect refers to whether or not you want the sliding sound on. (0 = off, 1 = on).
Hope this helps!
I installed the software that was made by JUVS....it does not work on my MDA.
Any other ideas? I had tried searching before I made this thread initially, and i had not seen the 2 that are discussed here. I apologize for having made a 3rd one.
Back on topic, I certainly hope this can be made to work. Any other ideas?
Thanks for all the info so far.
Later
this is a really cool idea, i would also like to know how to do it...
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I just checked mine and under SlidingSound, there are 3 folders... 0, 1, and 2. Each folder has 3 keys... Default, in, and out. "Default" is the name for the sounds (ex: Wind Chimes, Piano, and Xylophone), "in" is the location of the file used for when the keyboard slides in (ex: Slider0_in.wav), and the same applies to "out" for when the keyboard slides out (ex: Slider0_out.wav).
Also inside the SlidingSound folder are 2 more keys... ActiveSlidingSound and SlidingSoundEffect. ActiveSlidingSound refers to which sliding sound you want to use... so in this case it would be one of the 3 folders mentioned above (0,1, or 2). SlidingSoundEffect refers to whether or not you want the sliding sound on. (0 = off, 1 = on).
Hope this helps!
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Thanks so much! This does help!
Unfortunately, I have the same keys on my MDA after installing the application for the SlidingSounds and it doesn't make sounds when I open the keyboard physically. I'm suspecting that the MDA is missing something, possibly a hardware switch (don't think so, though, cause it has to detect when the keyboard opens for landscape mode).
My guess is that this will not work on the MDA
Umfortunately I'm not a programmer, but I was thinking that the easiest way to get somethig like this to work would be to link the sound to play with the screen rotation instead of trying to get it to work when the keyboard is slid out which obviously isn't working anyway. It would play the sound if you rotated your screen manually, but I can't see why that would be a big deal. Maybe someone with a little programming knowledge could get this to work though.
I wanna keep this thread alive. SlidingSounds is something i wanna see work for wizards. It'll be cool if someone could craft a workaround or a new prog altogether.
Opening the keyboard is an event, shouldn't be hard to craft something to have it make a sound.
Any updates on this? I downloaded the app and it hasn't done anything, especially when messing with the registry. Thanks.
I've been working on tis as well but it seems that there is no way to adjust the registry to get it to work. I believe a app is gonna have to get the wizard to have this feature.
This would be so cool.. Alot of people have 'flip' style phones, and when they open them, they have some funny sounds. Would be great to have on the Wizard!
Anybody figured this out yet? I'm really sure it can be done.
im all about hacks for the wizard, but...
im assuming that you saw a wing and are trying to duplicate it...
WHY would you want it to do this?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
same question for the menu pop sound?
those are the most annoying things i've seen on phone... well except for the default startup and shutdown sounds on all retail phones... when you turn off your phone, isnt because you're somewhere that you should be sure it wont be ringing/vibrating?
but on the other hand i still can't understand why people like to have the keys beep on their regular cell phones when they are txting...
sorry for the rant... i just don't get it
Bells and Whistles.
ndn715 said:
im all about hacks for the wizard, but...
im assuming that you saw a wing and are trying to duplicate it...
WHY would you want it to do this?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
same question for the menu pop sound?
those are the most annoying things i've seen on phone... well except for the default startup and shutdown sounds on all retail phones... when you turn off your phone, isnt because you're somewhere that you should be sure it wont be ringing/vibrating?
but on the other hand i still can't understand why people like to have the keys beep on their regular cell phones when they are txting...
sorry for the rant... i just don't get it
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Maybe because we love the bells and whistles a gadget can make, it's all about your custom love that you want to have, not just everyone's universal preference. Some of us love to customize our phones to suit our personality, not just YOURS. Maybe these sounds grab attention of chicks, maybe this wallpaper makes us look cool in the sight of geeks. It's all personal prereference.
That's why I want keyboard Sliding Sounds to work. It's just one more thing that will grab the attention of people to see that, yes, I don't need a new phone every six months or so. I can make a new one using an old one by utilizing hacks.
Hi all,
I have been surfing around the forum for a couple of days now and am completely overloaded with all the amazing information available here. I have a Wing that I love (with the exception of the slow speed and the low program memory, of course) and I have been reading all about the different downloads that people have created for changing the page pool (a term I just learned) and over-clocking (again a new word) the processor, and to be honest, with my level of experience with this unit, I am scared.
I am hoping that someone could direct me to a program that I could buy (yes I am willing to pay for it) that would quickly, safely and without configuration from me, allow me to change the processor speed and the page pool. Does such a think exist? I really don't know enough to try doing this on my own.
Also, somewhere on one of these forums, I read a post from someone a couple of days ago saying that T-Mobile was going to be issuing a new update for the Wing - does anyone know anything about that. I keep checking on their page http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/ but it's not shown up yet.
Any help would be appreciated.
Jamie
A simple search+reading wiki would have done the job for you, but, nevermind..
1) for changing pagepool, follow this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1456991&postcount=1
2)for easy overclocking(which actually everyone here use, that is, batterystatus)
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
thank you for the links - I am hesitant to try the page pool from these directions because, as I said, my experience is very limited. I'm looking for simple, easy to install programs that might address these issues.
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A simple search+reading wiki would have done the job for you, but, nevermind..
1) for changing pagepool, follow this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1456991&postcount=1
2)for easy overclocking(which actually everyone here use, that is, batterystatus)
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
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ok, here is what to do to change the pagepool in 2steps
1)install aserg's policies on your device(copy the cab on the device and execute it from the file explorer)
2)make sure that you are connected to actiesync and run the batch file on the PC then(extract the archive first)
soft reset.
l8deblu said:
thank you for the links - I am hesitant to try the page pool from these directions because, as I said, my experience is very limited. I'm looking for simple, easy to install programs that might address these issues.
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Ummm, plug in ur phone, make sure its connected, and then open the pagepool folder and click the one that has a 6 in the file name.....its really not hard, Im pretty sure my dog could figure it out. Dont be afraid to try things. You'll surprise yourself with how much your capable of.
Where is the pagepool folder? I looked in File Explorer and even searched for it by name.... Could I borrow your dog?
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Ummm, plug in ur phone, make sure its connected, and then open the pagepool folder and click the one that has a 6 in the file name.....its really not hard, Im pretty sure my dog could figure it out. Dont be afraid to try things. You'll surprise yourself with how much your capable of.
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Where is the pagepool folder? I looked in File Explorer and even searched for it by name.... Could I borrow your dog?
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Follow the post he gave you. It will have a file you download. It's a compressed folder. Uncompress it. THAT is the pagepool folder.
ivanmmj said:
Follow the post he gave you. It will have a file you download. It's a compressed folder. Uncompress it. THAT is the pagepool folder.
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The page pool hack is alot easier than your making it seem. Even if you screw it up, the pagepool just isnt gonna work and your gonna have to start over.
1.Install the ITSUTILS_Preperation cab. (either put it on your wing thru activesync or memory card, once its in the phone just click the file for install).
2. Soft reset after the install (stylus push on small hole, right side of wing)
3. Connect the wing to the pc thru activesync.
4. From your PC double click the backup file.
5. From your PC double click the 6mb pool file. (a black dos screen will scroll a few lines of text and disapper, if no lines of text scroll you have not followed every step...hard reset and try again)
Thats step for step, easy as seducing a hooker instructions.
Hopefully you can figure out batterysatus, if not msg me and ill help you out. Anytime things seem to complex its best to read the post numerous times. Things will start to make sense, and after that if your still haveing problems there are lots of really helpful people on this site.
Good Luck
I would do a power cycle instead of a soft reset to make sure your savings got saved.
Power cycle = holding the power down until it asks you to shut down, then shutting down.
ivanmmj said:
I would do a power cycle instead of a soft reset to make sure your savings got saved.
Power cycle = holding the power down until it asks you to shut down, then shutting down.
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Ive never noticed this, but does a soft reset have a tendency to not save settings Ivan?
Thank you one and all for your patience with me. I did it! I changed my page pool to 6 using the program you recommended and it worked just great. I have between 8-11 MB's left after start up. The only thing I am running is Contact Photo Pro. I don't know if it's a system resource hog or not, but I wanted a program that would allow me to customize separate tones for sms messages and caller tunes for my contacts, and also to have profiles where I can silence just the sms messages and allow phone calls during the night. There might be a better program out there but since I'm still such a newbie, I downloaded what I Could find first.
Again, thanks again for your help. I don't think I am going to overclock yet, as that seems scarier but for now my Wing is running better, and I can take a picture without getting a low memory error!
Airman Gimpy said:
Ive never noticed this, but does a soft reset have a tendency to not save settings Ivan?
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If done quickly enough, yes. I used to do it all the time...
T-Mobile wing
so far T-Mobile has no plans for any updates to the wing. i'll keep you posted if anything changes.
brooks23 said:
so far T-Mobile has no plans for any updates to the wing. i'll keep you posted if anything changes.
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Do you work for tmobile?
If so, that's sad... because they're starting to drag behind the competition... I do love their cheap data plan, though...
Airman Gimpy said:
The page pool hack is alot easier than your making it seem. Even if you screw it up, the pagepool just isnt gonna work and your gonna have to start over.
1.Install the ITSUTILS_Preperation cab. (either put it on your wing thru activesync or memory card, once its in the phone just click the file for install).
2. Soft reset after the install (stylus push on small hole, right side of wing)
3. Connect the wing to the pc thru activesync.
4. From your PC double click the backup file.
5. From your PC double click the 6mb pool file. (a black dos screen will scroll a few lines of text and disapper, if no lines of text scroll you have not followed every step...hard reset and try again)
Thats step for step, easy as seducing a hooker instructions.
Hopefully you can figure out batterysatus, if not msg me and ill help you out. Anytime things seem to complex its best to read the post numerous times. Things will start to make sense, and after that if your still haveing problems there are lots of really helpful people on this site.
Good Luck
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Double click the Backup file? where is that located?
I miss my Trinity.
Been using HTC since they weren't branding themselves. My first phone was the Space Needle (ATT Pocket PC). I loved it. Did so much with it. Later flashed it, was very nice.
Then I moved on to the I-Mate Jam. Smaller, sleeker, also fun.
Then I got the Trinity P3600. This is absolutely the best phone there is in my opinion. It's small, light, has GPS, a decent camera, video call, mini SD slot.
I got more from my P3600 and a 2gb card than the HD has given me.
Yes, the HD has more memory, huge screen, better camera (although annoying, and who REALLY uses the camera on their phone for 'real' pictures), ..... wait, what more? For me, nothing.
I miss my d-pad. Try using the HD to go to Call History and view the contact details of the third caller down. You can't! No Way to move down. If you touch the contact, it calls him!!
Try finding a contact with the last name that begins with 'M' when you have 100+ contacts who begin with 'M' and the one you want is in the middle of the list. Oh, "just start typing part of the name" you might say. I DON'T WANT TO!! I'm using one hand. The only way is 'flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking'.
You've heard of "tennis elbow", now there's "flick thumb". What a pain!
And the soft touch buttons. USELESS!!!! First of all, forget the third one, the 'back arrow'. Does anyone use it? I don't. USELESS.
Now, try answering a call while the HD it in it's protective sleeve. While you're trying to slide the damn thing out, you almost inevidibly "answer" or "ignore" by accidentally pressing one of the soft buttons!! USELESS!
Now try putting the HD in your pocket or in the center console in your car. You will soon start hearing.....blip-blip-blip-blip-blip....... That's the soft keys being pressed accidentally.......Now look at the phone, it's frozen with just a start button.
..and and and......
I can go on, but this phone is hard to handle, very "touchy" and just a general PAIN IN THE A$$ to use, not to mention expensive as H3LL!!!
Glad I never sold my P3600. Will be going back to my old tried and true friend today. I flashed my Trinity to WM6.1, and it's GREAT!!!
Hope I can find a sucker to buy the HD before everyone starts realizing it sucks.
Thanks for listening!
-JoJo
haha, u made me laugh
well, firstly, were u blind when u were buying HD? I always check how device looks first, and you? Didn't u see it doesn't has a Dpad?
secondly, all your other problems are that you don't know what's a LOCK DEVICE function is...
in a conclusion, learn how to lock the device first, then you can talk about it
I miss my Trinity.
You still have it, so how can you miss it??
I miss my d-pad. Try using the HD to go to Call History and view the contact details of the third caller down. You can't! No Way to move down. If you touch the contact, it calls him!!
Working fine here.....
Try finding a contact with the last name that begins with 'M' when you have 100+ contacts who begin with 'M' and the one you want is in the middle of the list. Oh, "just start typing part of the name" you might say. I DON'T WANT TO!! I'm using one hand. The only way is 'flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking' 'flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking'.
You've heard of "tennis elbow", now there's "flick thumb". What a pain!
Don´t quite understand the problem.....
And the soft touch buttons. USELESS!!!! First of all, forget the third one, the 'back arrow'. Does anyone use it? I don't. USELESS.
Use AEButton Plus and assign any functions you like....
Now, try answering a call while the HD it in it's protective sleeve. While you're trying to slide the damn thing out, you almost inevidibly "answer" or "ignore" by accidentally pressing one of the soft buttons!! USELESS!
Agreed.....that´s why I never used the pouch...
Now try putting the HD in your pocket or in the center console in your car. You will soon start hearing.....blip-blip-blip-blip-blip....... That's the soft keys being pressed accidentally.......Now look at the phone, it's frozen with just a start button.
Can´t duplicate....
The Bug is not the device but rather the User...in this case
I was very concerned when I saw this thread as I will finally get my HD tomorrow. All the complaints made seem to be a user problem, I was able to do everything he couldn't do on my Diamond just using the screen, so I assume that that would be exactly the same as the HD.
I think everyone on these forums understands that most WM phones aren't the best out of the box but with tweaking the phones are made into great devices that are really interesting and are never boring because you can change so much.
If you want a device that just works with minimal functions so you don't get upset or have brain overload, the iphone is a great peace of hardware but WM has so much more to offer if you are willing to tweak and play around abit.
I think instead of posting "I hate the HD", it would be more appropriate to post.... "I need some help with some functions" and with the wealth of knowledge here you will get some answers very quick and not give people like me heart attacks reading your misleading posts.
seal said:
I think everyone on these forums understands that most WM phones aren't the best out of the box but with tweaking the phones are made into great devices that are really interesting and are never boring because you can change so much.
If you want a device that just works with minimal functions so you don't get upset or have brain overload, the iphone is a great peace of hardware but WM has so much more to offer if you are willing to tweak and play around abit.
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i wouldnt say iphone was a great piece of hardware, but it is miles better for usability...
my hd is a hardware investment till the chaps on this forum make it awesome
All the other points has been covered... So:
I miss my d-pad. Try using the HD to go to Call History and view the contact details of the third caller down. You can't! No Way to move down. If you touch the contact, it calls him!!
-> Flick
Try finding a contact with the last name that begins with 'M' when you have 100+ contacts who begin with 'M' and the one you want is in the middle of the list. Oh, "just start typing part of the name" you might say. I DON'T WANT TO!! I'm using one hand. The only way is 'flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking'.
You've heard of "tennis elbow", now there's "flick thumb". What a pain!
-> Basically, i never used the contacts list . Always use the dial key, bring up the keypad, and use smart dialing - much much faster. and yes, its 1 hand operation. You probably not aware of this obvious function? E.g. if you want to call John, type in your keypad 5606 . In the contacts list, There's a alphabet along the screen... touch letter M and it brings u to the M part of your contacts list... i dont think any of us have less than 100 contacts in our phone .
All these are purely your problem for not learning how to use it. not the phone's problem.
The Touch HD surely has flaws, like any other phone, but all of your problems can be avoid by learning how to use it.
Hey, for 100 usd I will be the sucker who buys it..
I could go line by line and combat everything this member says is "wrong" with the HD but I wont. All i can say is i am just not hving the problems he describes None of them with maybe the exception of I simply just dont use the camera. I use my real camera for pic taking
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The Bug is not the device but rather the User...in this case
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what he said.
well....
i would give you 101.00 USD for this phone.....
if you are not able to swim,
the reason is allways the bathing suit
jojothedogfacedboy said:
I miss my Trinity.
.........Glad I never sold my P3600. Will be going back to my old tried and true friend today. I flashed my Trinity to WM6.1, and it's GREAT!!!
Hope I can find a sucker to buy the HD before everyone starts realizing it sucks.
Thanks for listening!
-JoJo
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Yeah... glad I haven't sold my stonewheel cart... I truly hate my Porsche Boxter..
Common man,
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Saar
jojothedogfacedboy said:
I miss my Trinity..
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Yes, the HD has more memory, huge screen, better camera (although annoying, and who REALLY uses the camera on their phone for 'real' pictures), ..... wait, what more? For me, nothing.
I miss my d-pad.
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Oh, "just start typing part of the name" you might say. I DON'T WANT TO!!
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And the soft touch buttons. USELESS!!!! First of all, forget the third one, the 'back arrow'. Does anyone use it? I don't. USELESS.
...
Now, try answering a call while the HD it in it's protective sleeve. While you're trying to slide the damn thing out, you almost inevidibly "answer" or "ignore" by accidentally pressing one of the soft buttons!! USELESS!
Now try putting the HD in your pocket or in the center console in your car. You will soon start hearing.....blip-blip-blip-blip-blip....... That's the soft keys being pressed accidentally.......Now look at the phone, it's frozen with just a start button.
..and and and......
I can go on, but this phone is hard to handle, very "touchy" and just a general PAIN IN THE A$$ to use, not to mention expensive as H3LL!!!
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I Love this one: "I DON'T WANT TO!!" - I have a picture in my head of an angry little man dancing around a fire
Yes, I liked my PALM III very much but i came over it. Yes I understand "I DON'T WANT TO!!"
Not once you had a good point. Not once! You should have found one by accident.
The one thing I miss is the roller-wheel of my hermes. But it sounds like I could remap the volume rocker to do something similar, anyone tried this?
I've never used a full touch screen phone before, so like a cautious person I went in to the Orange shop and asked for a demo, which they were happy to give, and realised it wasn't all that daunting. A number of the annoyances with it so far are thanks to the not-so-touch-friendly Winmo 6.1, when someone cracks Android for this thing (apparently the Touch HD will be the new T-Mobile G2 according to the rumour mill) I'll be more than happy to try it out, plus the modding community will fix it up with their godlike skills, I'm just glad I found these forums!
Objective view, please...
I think most people here did not get the points raised here or have not been objective in their response (it is obvious they are product of their ne gadget); the phone as Windows Mobile is not per se user-friendly. The interface incorporated by HTC is not perfect. The hardware is therefore inadequate since it cannot be complemented by a good piece of software .
HTC has effectively delivered this phone in the same manner as it has done with other previouus devices (albeit a modified soft keyboard) with keypad. Even the TF3D for a WVGA screen, there is not difference to VGA devices, only larger icon and the Stock tab!
Excessive tweaking of the device is not always a good solution as it impacts other areas of the device.
Therefore stating all this is down to user is a best an over statement.
With all this feedback I wonder how HTC development team will feel! I for one do not complaint for the issues raised but admit they are serious problem. I can recall not being able to open the battery cover and having to refer to the manual, still it will not open. Only after several attempts the process became easier.
The iPhone is not always a valid alterative either, since many people wish to have applications that are not designed for this platform, such as any device car navigation program. This is particularly true in this case, as the poster clearly stated his background!
Personally, I must say my main decision for purchasing the BlackStone was merely for the screen size, having used the Universal for over year and then going down to Polaris (screen size wise), and with no sign of the Omni, I was “forced” again to a half solution. Any other aspect of the device was secondary in importance…
Ha, ha, ha...
Ha, ha, ha... thanx for the laugh, angry man
All new gadgets takes some getting use to... The HD i no exeption, especially when you cant use the software your used to because of the screen.
I love my HD though..
What a sound response carla!
carola said:
I think most people here did not get the points raised here or have not been objective in their response (it is obvious they are product of their ne gadget); the phone as Windows Mobile is not per se user-friendly. The interface incorporated by HTC is not perfect. The hardware is therefore inadequate since it cannot be complemented by a good piece of software .
HTC has effectively delivered this phone in the same manner as it has done with other previouus devices (albeit a modified soft keyboard) with keypad. Even the TF3D for a WVGA screen, there is not difference to VGA devices, only larger icon and the Stock tab!
Excessive tweaking of the device is not always a good solution as it impacts other areas of the device.
Therefore stating all this is down to user is a best an over statement.
With all this feedback I wonder how HTC development team will feel! I for one do not complaint for the issues raised but admit they are serious problem. I can recall not being able to open the battery cover and having to refer to the manual, still it will not open. Only after several attempts the process became easier.
The iPhone is not always a valid alterative either, since many people wish to have applications that are not designed for this platform, such as any device car navigation program. This is particularly true in this case, as the poster clearly stated his background!
Personally, I must say my main decision for purchasing the BlackStone was merely for the screen size, having used the Universal for over year and then going down to Polaris (screen size wise), and with no sign of the Omni, I was “forced” again to a half solution. Any other aspect of the device was secondary in importance…
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I've been quite concerned about HD since I ordered it, and then once I got it (overpriced on HTC distribution orders to retail stores), etc. And finally with many "small" issues I wrote in other threads.
So I fully understand the feelings of angry users.
Has anybody noticed we, (concernerd users) are greatly defined by our previous machine?
It has come to my attention through this and other forums, that ex-TRINITY users are prone to be "in love" with it and not very pleased with HD.
I think this is really somthing to be investigated.
Finally, toying around in a phone store with the machine (if you have had the chance) is not enough to put all the blame in the "unconscious" buyer, it's simply not fair in todays e-shopping.
HTC did a very poor job putting the HD in the market for Christmas time, hope it will get fixed over the time, but i'm still very upset with HTC way of launching new devices.
I won't address all the issues, because other people already have, and because it really just sounds like the problem is more with what YOU like and don't like - and not with the phone. Either you are used to a certain way and you don't really want to change or you are not aware of how you can do things differently to better use the phone. In any case, I do respect your opinion and you have every right to express those thoughts here. Okay, so here are a couple of thoughts from my side.
jojothedogfacedboy said:
who REALLY uses the camera on their phone for 'real' pictures), ..... wait, what more? For me, nothing.
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The camera is descent - not excellent - but descent. The lack of flash is a known downfall. However, keep in mind that no phone out there will replace the quality of an actual camera. The camera feature on the phone is an extra commodity for those moments when you don't want to take a real camera with you or for those good times, when you are hanging out with friends and you don't need to shoot the greatest quality pictures. No camera phone is meant to be used as your main camera for vacation shots etc.
I miss my d-pad. Try using the HD to go to Call History and view the contact details of the third caller down. You can't! No Way to move down. If you touch the contact, it calls him!!
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Maybe you don't understand how this feature works. On my HD, if I tap once on a number in the call history list, it DOES NOT call right away, but instead it brings up the call history for that caller alone. Then:
If the caller is in my contacts list, I see the name at the top and possibly a picture (if I added one). Below this, it shows me the call history.
If I tap on the name/picture, it pulls up a list of numbers and email addresses for that contact. If I once again tap on the name/picture, it brings me to that listing so I can edit the contact's information. I can always cancel by pressing menu at the bottom.
If I tap on a given missed call itself, it will call that number. The nice thing is that if that person called me once from their home and another time from their mobile, I can see that here and I can choose which number to call back.
If the caller is NOT in my contacts list, then I simply see "unknown" at the top and then the number that called below that (provided that person does not have their number blocked from callerID). If I tap on the number, it will call that person. If I tap on "unknown", I will eventually end up on my contacts list, where I can assign that number to a contact or I can create a new contact with that number.
I do have to admit, that it has happened a few times, that a contact calls me and in the call history list, I only see the number as if it were an unknown person. In that case, I have assigned that number to the contact and it overrides the number I already had. I don't know why that is. Maybe because some numbers I have entered as 0177-555-5555 and others as +491775555555 (in Germany).
Anyone know if that makes a difference? It seems that sometimes it does and other times it doesn't.
Try finding a contact with the last name that begins with 'M' when you have 100+ contacts who begin with 'M' and the one you want is in the middle of the list. Oh, "just start typing part of the name" you might say. I DON'T WANT TO!! I'm using one hand. The only way is 'flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking'.
You've heard of "tennis elbow", now there's "flick thumb". What a pain!
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Huh?? Flicking is A LOT faster than pressing a D-pad arrow 80 times to get to your contact. You could also press the M or N on the alphabest list on the right. That way, you'll either see the beginning of the M's or the end of the M's and you can flick from there. Seriously - flicking goes really fast. And typing the first two letters into the name box is NOT that bad. You see, the possibilities here are endless!
Now try putting the HD in your pocket or in the center console in your car. You will soon start hearing.....blip-blip-blip-blip-blip....... That's the soft keys being pressed accidentally.......Now look at the phone, it's frozen with just a start button.
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A simple press of the power button locks your phone - and guess what..... no more blip-blip-blip-blip-blip.
Now simply press the power button again and you can blip-blip-blip all you want.
So, there now - you must certainly LOVE your HD now, right?