battery life: Is it possible to switch Snapvue off / prevent it from starting up? - Shift General

Hello,
Till you guys find a solution I am not using Snapvue at all, but the Shift very, very much.
My problem is that I load it 100%, shut Vista down..... and after 6 hours or so I lose 15% battery. Must be Snapvue....
I found a solution though:
1. Load 100%
2. Shut Vista down
3. Take out the battery and put it back. So no Snapvue startup.
4. After several hours still 100% battery.
Is there an easier way?
As I am flying a lot in the cattle class I need a small UMPC AND battery life.
Huib
P.s.
I am also in for some hints and tips which services I easily can switch off to keep performance up/battery low.

That doesn't sounds right to me.
I took my Shift off of the mains yesterday at around 4:30pm when I left work, and it's been sitting in my bag until I just read your post. Looking at it now, SnapVue has been running (with radio on) for approximately 28.5 hours and my battery is at 80%.
I actually thought I'd switched the radio off anyway, but it was still running and downloading emails all day.
Did you have the radio on for those 6 hours? If so, were you in an area where the signal strength wasn't good? I find my phones burn through batteries if they are continually hunting for a single or chopping and changing between 3G and 2G.
Regards,
Dave

Winmo will run for 1-2 days checking emails without interaction.
If your signal was low and it was constantly hunting for signal then that would definitely drain more battery.

foxmeister said:
That doesn't sounds right to me.
I took my Shift off of the mains yesterday at around 4:30pm when I left work, and it's been sitting in my bag until I just read your post. Looking at it now, SnapVue has been running (with radio on) for approximately 28.5 hours and my battery is at 80%.
I actually thought I'd switched the radio off anyway, but it was still running and downloading emails all day.
Did you have the radio on for those 6 hours? If so, were you in an area where the signal strength wasn't good? I find my phones burn through batteries if they are continually hunting for a single or chopping and changing between 3G and 2G.
Regards,
Dave
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Well, Dave,
I did not have any SIM card in at all.
But I will give it a new try. Try to be more precise.
-I fully load it.
-Then shut down Vista.
-And I will calculate the percentage left after 8 hours. Maybe I have more time and check it after 16 hours too.
Anyway... taking the battery out-and-in solves it for me: stays on 100%
Huib

rpawly said:
Winmo will run for 1-2 days checking emails without interaction.
If your signal was low and it was constantly hunting for signal then that would definitely drain more battery.
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Ok, it was 15% in 8 hours in stead of 6 then. In that case it was right:
45% in a day and 90% in 2 days.
This heavily conflicts with Daves' 20% in 28.4 hours!
Huib

Since you don't have a SIM in the unit, have you switched the radio off?
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Since you don't have a SIM in the unit, have you switched the radio off?
Regards,
Dave
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and did he have the screen powered up? that is the single most factory to battery drain

rpawly said:
and did he have the screen powered up? that is the single most factory to battery drain
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Of course I did not have the screen powered up. That would take more than 15% in 8 hours.
Please.........
And I thought the phone is automatically off without SIM card.
My phone is in flight mode anyway, because I switched everything off.
But still, 15% in 8 hours is two days , so what's wrong with that?
So... once more. When I take out the battery and do NOT start Vista, the phone is not switched on, so power consumption is near to zero.
So: The only thing I am looking for is the software in Vista that triggers the Winmo to start. Because: Without Vista it never starts.
Huib

herpi said:
So: The only thing I am looking for is the software in Vista that triggers the Winmo to start. Because: Without Vista it never starts.
Huib
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I doubt that there is "software" in Vista triggering WinMobile to start - as soon as you hit the power switch, both Vista and WinMobile boot up, but SnapVue is up long before the "PC" part of the Shift gets to boot Vista.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I doubt that there is "software" in Vista triggering WinMobile to start - as soon as you hit the power switch, both Vista and WinMobile boot up, but SnapVue is up long before the "PC" part of the Shift gets to boot Vista.
Regards,
Dave
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In that case it is over and out and I will do the battery removal trick.
Thanks anyway.
Huib

five hours Vsita closed 89% left
I am sure this is it:
After 5 hours I have 89% left with Vista swiched off.
So this means two days in total.
And no SIM inside, and in flight mode.
Dissapointing....
So I still I am waiting for the answer: How do I prevent winmo/Snapvue from starting at all.
Huib

I'm wondering if there's a problem with your Shift itself.
I had my on today to install Vista SP1 (which I promptly removed shortly thereafter!) and switched it off at around 4pm - just over 4 hours ago. It was on mains power whilst I was using it, and I switched off the radio on SnapVue after I shut Vista down.
Looking at my Shift now, my battery is at 98%. I won't be touching it again until sometime tomorrow (at least I'm not planning to) so I'll post further battery drainage details again tomorrow.
Regards,
Dave

I am waiting with interest
Huib

foxmeister said:
I'm wondering if there's a problem with your Shift itself.
I had my on today to install Vista SP1 (which I promptly removed shortly thereafter!)
Regards,
Dave
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Hi foxmeister,
why did you remove SP1? I plan to install it as soon as I've got my Shift.
There isn't much commenting on SP1 installations. Can anyone comment?
I remember reading somewhere in this tread that others also removed it after installing.
Any differences between "original" English version and other countries' versions like in the Snapvue part.
Thanks!
Settembrini

herpi said:
I am waiting with interest
Huib
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Just logged into this forum now. It's just after 1pm here, so the last time I posted was a shade under 17 hours ago. Just checked my Shift, and the battery is at 95% now.
Working back to when it was last on charge, that's 5% in a little under 21 hours, with the radio and screen off.
Regards,
Dave

Settembrini said:
why did you remove SP1? I plan to install it as soon as I've got my Shift.
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Hi,
I uninstalled it because there were a few issues that I didn't have time to resolve. Specifically:
1. The HTC communications centre crashed a few times
2. Origami wouldn't always start - it would sit on its flash screen
3. Internet access via HSDPA didn't seem to work.
Rebooting a few times brought my comms centre and Origami back, so I'm sure I could get the internet access going again given time, but I go on vacation tomorrow and I needed to get everything important installed on the Shift before I leave. It therefore seemed prudent to just restore back to my pre-SP1 image.
I'll try again once I get back from vacation.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Just logged into this forum now. It's just after 1pm here, so the last time I posted was a shade under 17 hours ago. Just checked my Shift, and the battery is at 95% now.
Working back to when it was last on charge, that's 5% in a little under 21 hours, with the radio and screen off.
Regards,
Dave
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Mine, with flightmode on, drains like a watertap.
I will chek out why..
My tytnII stays on longer whennog using winmo.
Huib

herpi said:
Mine, with flightmode on, drains like a watertap.
I will chek out why..
My tytnII stays on longer whennog using winmo.
Huib
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exactly, this isn't a WM (=snapvue) issue, WM itself should be able to run for weeks in suspend
when you remove the battery, obviously you remove the cause of the problem too but that could be anything not just WM

foxmeister said:
Hi,
I uninstalled it because there were a few issues that I didn't have time to resolve. Specifically:
1. The HTC communications centre crashed a few times
2. Origami wouldn't always start - it would sit on its flash screen
3. Internet access via HSDPA didn't seem to work.
Rebooting a few times brought my comms centre and Origami back, so I'm sure I could get the internet access going again given time, but I go on vacation tomorrow and I needed to get everything important installed on the Shift before I leave. It therefore seemed prudent to just restore back to my pre-SP1 image.
I'll try again once I get back from vacation.
Regards,
Dave
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mmh ... that's what happened on the video (the first video of the released version) .. it stayed about a minute on the flash screen and then he cuts the video .... not showing origami !
what do you think of origami 2.0 ? I'm following this project the closest I can from about 2 years and I'm really excited to buy the shift and try it !

koala996 said:
mmh ... that's what happened on the video (the first video of the released version) .. it stayed about a minute on the flash screen and then he cuts the video .... not showing origami !
what do you think of origami 2.0 ? I'm following this project the closest I can from about 2 years and I'm really excited to buy the shift and try it !
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To be honest, I don't like it. It's really slow with everything.
I even installed Winamp (full version).
Winamp is much faster and works perfect on the Shift.
But the Origami is really slow so that's why I don't use it

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Battery Recalibration

I've purchased a second hand xda2, and found (not entirely to my suprise) that the battery life wasn't great - typically less than a day even if it had sit in the charging cradle the previous night.
So i went to o2 shop yesterday lunch time and purchased a new battery. They charged it for me on a rapid charger - took 30 minutes. However by the time I got home at 8.30pm the XDA2 was reporting very low battery - this is the new one - So I put that down to the rapid charger and I fully charged that one over night last night and took it out of the cradle at about 8 this morning.
It's already reporting 57% percent battery.
Now ok, i'm aware I've been using BT a lot to sort my active sync this morning etc, but surely battery life should be better than this? I used to have an IPAQ and that needed recalibrating because it was incorrect at guessing how quickly the battery would drain. Does this happen with the XDAs? if so how can I recalibrate or is something else likely to be draining the batt?
Thanks
Anthony
well the manual say you have to charge it for 24hours or so the first time
i would try to do that
also look if it's the normal batt or backup batt which is complaining
otherwise the batt life should inc the more times you charge it
Rudegar said:
well the manual say you have to charge it for 24hours or so the first time
i would try to do that
also look if it's the normal batt or backup batt which is complaining
otherwise the batt life should inc the more times you charge it
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Ok i'll try leaving it in the cradle over the weekend and switch back to my normal phone - backup battery is 100%. My old battery is in the aux battery holder in the cradle and has been since 1.30 this morning so maybe tommorow i'll give that one a whirl again!
Thanks
Try it with bluetooth switched off for a day and see if you get a different result. The other possibility is if you're in a low coverage area and your phone is constantly polling for network availability - is this likely to be the case?
If none of these apply, are you running any other peripherals, e.g. SD Wireless card? Just trying to whittle down the possibilities before blaming the hardware.
rgds,
Alex.
also upgrading to 1.72 should help.
M4io said:
also upgrading to 1.72 should help.
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Did this last night! thanks
anthonyeeles said:
M4io said:
also upgrading to 1.72 should help.
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Did this last night! thanks
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Make sure that you don't have the Blackberry Software running unless yoou're using Blackberry ! (Check the taskbar for an envelope icon). If you do run it, and you're not connected / subscribed to a Blackberry service then you'll get less than 12 hours on your battery.
Mark
mark.peters said:
Make sure that you don't have the Blackberry Software running unless yoou're using Blackberry ! (Check the taskbar for an envelope icon). If you do run it, and you're not connected / subscribed to a Blackberry service then you'll get less than 12 hours on your battery.
Mark
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Would BB be running by default if i've upg'd to 1.72?
I've uninstalled it as I don't plan to use it - I'll see how we go.
Thanks
Ant

Tytn / Vario II Battery

Hey again,
Had my vario for a couple of months now, but really getting annoyed with the battery now...
Charged it to full in the car this morning (11am ish) and now 15:30 it's dead.
It does have push mail enabled and has received around 20 emails, but surely this should kill the battery by then.. I wouldnt mind, but have been at the pc, so havent even switched the screen on....
any comments / advice?
I'm having the same problem with mine. Does the battery pack feel really warm even when it's not charging and just on standby. This is my second Vario, the first had a faulty keyboard latch, but the battery didn't get hot and it lasted for days on standby.
Its the Edge/UMTS/3G chip..
I had the same problems.
Since I switched to GPRSW instead of UMTS/Edge/3G connection my battery will do twice as long. Search for the free tool "BandSwitch" on these forums and you will find a solution to switch between GPRS and 3G without a hassle...
Regards
Apple*
Applestar said:
I had the same problems.
Since I switched to GPRSW instead of UMTS/Edge/3G connection my battery will do twice as long. Search for the free tool "BandSwitch" on these forums and you will find a solution to switch between GPRS and 3G without a hassle...
Regards
Apple*
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I can confirm more or less twice also for me. This is a wonderful danielherrero's idea, well developed from forum's suggestions and well coded from danielherrero
Applestar said:
I had the same problems.
Since I switched to GPRSW instead of UMTS/Edge/3G connection my battery will do twice as long. Search for the free tool "BandSwitch" on these forums and you will find a solution to switch between GPRS and 3G without a hassle...
Regards
Apple*
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Hmm... whilst that may work, it's one of the reasons I got the Vario is that it has 3g bandwidth, so to disable it to have more than a couple of hours batter seems crazy.....
sem92 said:
I'm having the same problem with mine. Does the battery pack feel really warm even when it's not charging and just on standby. This is my second Vario, the first had a faulty keyboard latch, but the battery didn't get hot and it lasted for days on standby.
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Cant say that it does, altho when using it, it does... how are t-mob in view of changing a faulty unit?
an0key said:
Hmm... whilst that may work, it's one of the reasons I got the Vario is that it has 3g bandwidth, so to disable it to have more than a couple of hours batter seems crazy.....
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Well it's a balance - the idea is not to disable it altogether but to switch it on when needed but not keep it on routinely. For example much of what I do does not need the bandwith and so it's only needed from time to time.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Well it's a balance - the idea is not to disable it altogether but to switch it on when needed but not keep it on routinely. For example much of what I do does not need the bandwith and so it's only needed from time to time.
Mike
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ok so basically 3 hours standbye use is acceptable?
an0key said:
ok so basically 3 hours standbye use is acceptable?
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you should get longer than that, you might have an application that is running and draining the battery, also try updating to the latest rom
good luck
R
rob61280 said:
you should get longer than that, you might have an application that is running and draining the battery, also try updating to the latest rom
good luck
R
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have had a look at the running processes, and has been running nothing today, still a pants battery.
As for the rom, am a bit dubious, as if I do that and it turns out to be a hardware problem, then surely that would void my warrenty?
sem92 said:
I'm having the same problem with mine. Does the battery pack feel really warm even when it's not charging and just on standby. This is my second Vario, the first had a faulty keyboard latch, but the battery didn't get hot and it lasted for days on standby.
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mine also feels warm when on standy. not using andy wifi bt or g3 or highspeed just the phone on standby. Only have had the thing work and hold charge and run cool a few times since I have it. Battery drains in a matter of 6-8 hours

Still loose 2% battery per hour, Vista off and WM in sleep mode

As I loose that much per hour, I was wondering if that is abnormal.
I hard a n d softreset WM, have no SIM card in, just do NOT use WM.
Vista is fully switched off.
Pls tell me if that is normal and, if not, what to do .
Still interested in that miracle tool to switch WM off fully. I do not use it.
Huib
Yes it is abnormal! My Shift still has 92% battery life after 36+ hours (Radio off, WM sleeping, Vista off). I don't even get anywhere near 2% per hour with Vista booted but sleeping (more like 1%).
As I said before in your last thread on this subject, I think there is a specific problem with you device - I get about 2 hours from my Shift when Vista is awake, so I don't think my device is "special".
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I don't even get anywhere near 2% per hour with Vista booted but sleeping (more like 1%).
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Sleeping? Or Hibernated? If you only drain 1% per hour in sleep maybe i will extend the time-to-hibernate in my profile to a few hours. Waking up from hibernate is fast - waiting for all the applications to get back to "normal" speed however takes like 3 minutes. So freakin annoying. Anyone else have this problem?
Sangheili said:
Sleeping? Or Hibernated? If you only drain 1% per hour in sleep maybe i will extend the time-to-hibernate in my profile to a few hours. Waking up from hibernate is fast - waiting for all the applications to get back to "normal" speed however takes like 3 minutes. So freakin annoying. Anyone else have this problem?
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Neither sleeping, nor Hibernating Vista. Switched off! But WM of course.....
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So:
My Vista is fully switched off.
I would be happy if I could get more statistics from your guys.
Pls switch Vista off on a fully loaded Shift.
Put it next to the bed, and see in the morning ( Lets say 8 hours) if it has more or less then, lets say, 85% power left.
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Of course, as told so many times, when I take out the battery and put it back, there is no powerdrain at all ,because WM has not been started in that case.
Huib
foxmeister said:
Yes it is abnormal! My Shift still has 92% battery life after 36+ hours (Radio off, WM sleeping, Vista off). I don't even get anywhere near 2% per hour with Vista booted but sleeping (more like 1%).
As I said before in your last thread on this subject, I think there is a specific problem with you device - I get about 2 hours from my Shift when Vista is awake, so I don't think my device is "special".
Regards,
Dave
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Hello again Dave,
You are right, but I was wondering if I was the only one, that's why this new thread.
Can you tell me how you set WM to sleep?
I have of course this "turned off if not used for 1 minute"
Shall I switch flight mode ON in the shagctrl? So turning off also my WIFI?
Coudl WIFI be the killer? Even when Vista is fully off? Did not try that yet, but I certainly will now.
And... How do I switch WIFI off, when not in Vista as as there is no Shagctrl.
Huib
well your problem seems like my problem
I have the same problem like your shift
my battery also drain about 1-2% per hour even without using it (I leave it at my side when I sleep)
Up until now, I still don't get the reason why this happening
Because, when I first time got the device, it was last longer than that, I saw it just maybe drain up to 15% for 2 and a half days
herpi said:
Hello again Dave,
You are right, but I was wondering if I was the only one, that's why this new thread.
Can you tell me how you set WM to sleep?
I have of course this "turned off if not used for 1 minute"
Shall I switch flight mode ON in the shagctrl? So turning off also my WIFI?
Coudl WIFI be the killer? Even when Vista is fully off? Did not try that yet, but I certainly will now.
And... How do I switch WIFI off, when not in Vista as as there is no Shagctrl.
Huib
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I also and always turning off my wifi when I hibernate the vista
and I also still have that 2% for 1 hour problem
Blue_Lightning said:
I also and always turning off my wifi when I hibernate the vista
and I also still have that 2% for 1 hour problem
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Yep,
Till now only Dave does not have this problem.
I just tested with WIFI off, and same problem. There is no realation and should not be.
Especially when flying it is a problem, because then I really am without juice. I bought an extra battery however, but still.
So I (sigh) take the battery off and put it back quickly. That solves it
Huib
yes and I think right now the snapvue can't take the wifi out to work, so it doesn't have a chance to reduce the battery
Well, if you said only Dave, I think, mine at the first time doesn't have this problem
At the first time the shift was at my hand , it can last for maybe 4days without using it
Strange isn't it
Hmm. @Herpi.
In this Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389487
i found out:
If you run only SnapVue, and go off ... battery drain is normal 5mA/h for SnapVue standby.
Now ... if you start up Vista - do something like usb conection to resync, an shut vista down at last. SnapVue drains now 40-50!!! mA/h in standby.
(by comparison: in WM6 200mA/H in Vista 800-1000mA/H if backlight is 2.th low)
A softreset solves the problem - till you start up Vista again.
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Are your really sure a softreset after shutting down vista, do not help ?
Bye,
Lyvia
Lyvia said:
Hmm. @Herpi.
In this Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389487
i found out:
Are your really sure a softreset after shutting down vista, do not help ?
Bye,
Lyvia
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How do I softreset after closing Vista?
Huib
You must liberate your Shift to unlock SnapVue to real WindowsMobile6.
Guide:
http://www.modaco.com/content/windows-mobile-news/266537/liberate-your-htc-shift/
Then you have a "soft reset" programm, but your can use other applications, like taskmanagers (e.g. WK-Task | http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html ) too.
herpi said:
Can you tell me how you set WM to sleep?
I have of course this "turned off if not used for 1 minute"
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Well, when I say sleeping - I really mean "not active". Assuming Vista is asleep or shutdown, when I've finished with WM, I press the "shift" button to switch it back to my inactive vista session.
Shall I switch flight mode ON in the shagctrl? So turning off also my WIFI?
Coudl WIFI be the killer? Even when Vista is fully off? Did not try that yet, but I certainly will now.
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Interesting idea - perhaps if Wifi is on, it remains powered up even if Vista has been shut down.
And... How do I switch WIFI off, when not in Vista as as there is no Shagctrl.
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Unfortunately, at present, you can only switch if on and off via Vista.
Regards,
Dave
Sangheili said:
Sleeping? Or Hibernated? If you only drain 1% per hour in sleep maybe i will extend the time-to-hibernate in my profile to a few hours. Waking up from hibernate is fast - waiting for all the applications to get back to "normal" speed however takes like 3 minutes. So freakin annoying. Anyone else have this problem?
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Sleeping - I found that hibernating doesn't really give me any speed benefits over a cold boot.
Regards,
Dave
Just an FYI, but I've not used my Shift at all since my first posting on this thread, which is now some 50 hours ago. In that time, the battery on my Shift has dropped a further 12%, so I'm now at 80% capacity. This means in the last 86+ hours, my Shift has only consumed 20% of its battery power.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Just an FYI, but I've not used my Shift at all since my first posting on this thread, which is now some 50 hours ago. In that time, the battery on my Shift has dropped a further 12%, so I'm now at 80% capacity. This means in the last 86+ hours, my Shift has only consumed 20% of its battery power.
Regards,
Dave
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yes, but as far as I can see you are the only one on this forum.
So here comes my call again: anybody else, somewhere on this world ,has this perfect battery consumption as Dave has?
Huib
Yes, my battery consumption is very similar to Daves, I don't seem to be leaking power when not in use. Vista hibernated, Windows Mobile checking 2 email accounts every 15 mins from 7am this morning until now, (5.20 pm), battery now on 92%.
Left unused, with the modem turned off but winmo running, it drops around 6-8% in 24 hours.
Pantaloonie said:
Yes, my battery consumption is very similar to Daves, I don't seem to be leaking power when not in use. Vista hibernated, Windows Mobile checking 2 email accounts every 15 mins from 7am this morning until now, (5.20 pm), battery now on 92%.
Left unused, with the modem turned off but winmo running, it drops around 6-8% in 24 hours.
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Well, that's supposed to be. When I got the shift for the first time, it was like that
But I don't know what make it like this now, eventhough I checked at battery meter, it just charge -43. Why it become so power hungry then ???
I haven't installed SP1, and don't plan to do so any time soon.
Don't know if that's relevant.
Pantaloonie said:
I haven't installed SP1, and don't plan to do so any time soon.
Don't know if that's relevant.
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I don't know if that's the cause
But I've already installed SP1 and before that I think maybe you're right now
GENIUS ........!!!!!!!!!!!
well, maybe another shift user out there ??? who installed SP1 and still don't have the battery problem, please post just to make me sure that I will do the right thing to uninstall SP1

Battery running out over night

Hey
My battery is emty every morning, and phone turned off. That is if the battery is under approx. 70-80% in the evening. Is it just a bad battery?
Anybody seen this problem before.
Hex3
Do you turn on the "Microsoft Direct Push" ?
When this feature is turned on, I also appeared that you have encountered a similar situation, but only consumes 40-50%
where can i check that, cant find it!! I have spb 3
Hex3
Look at your "Comm Manager"-"Microsoft Direct Push"
Found it. No its set to off, so thats not it. Maybe ill try a hardreset!
But thanks for the help
Hex3
hello
i have the same problem for 2 or 3 months now and i did not find a solution.
i bought a new battery but it did not help.
did you found a solution?
marbon
There is always a solution
Your device must have enabled the "turn off device" timeout (aka suspend timeout)
Don't let your device check your emails too often (once an hour is more than enough).
Use Advanced Config to enable GPRS disconnection timeout.
Don't let TF3D check for webpages updates too often.
Don't let RSS reader check for updates too often.
If your device has Wifi turned on all night, check if it turns off while your device is in suspend mode.
And of course, carefully choose applications that run in background - some of them may prevent your device from going to suspend mode.
(suspend mode is the most power-saving mode)
no, havent found the solution yet
Hex3 said:
no, havent found the solution yet
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Simply put your phone on charge and leave it like that for as long as you possibly can for as much of the time as you can.
Do not run a discharge cycle. Do not try to 'condition' the battery and as soon as you can recharge from an available power outlet.
I get 1.5 days from this and I would suggest that you should get the same.
78michel said:
What happen if you switch off your smartphone ( be carefull ....not suspend mode!)? Is the battery still draining?
Have you check the current delivered by your battery during your ''night stand by''?
The objective is to check if there is any extra leakage current in the main circuit board.
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It should not be draining when it's off, it's should actually go up (happend to me).
Hi, i have had my TD2 for nearly 2 weeks and last night i had a similar issue, however my phone was not turned off it was in sleep mode.
Charged battery to full at around 5 p.m went and stayed at my girlfriends and when i woke up this morning the battery was dead, came home plugged in the charger and got no charging light.....oh dear i thought.
So i removed the battery and the sim blew on the contacts etc to remove any possible dust put it back together and now i get a charging light and all seems to be charging ok.
The only thing i did different yesterday was that i went on google maps for the first time and selected the use gps option so it was seeking satellites, when i exited google maps i made sure it was not running in the background.
Im just wondering wether it was still using power to search for sattelites as in my information screen in power it says i have had 8 hours standby and 10 hours 52 mins device usage and i know that is not the case.
To the OP >> Maybe check in your google maps to see if you have use gps selected?
I had same problem after I flashed my phone with new radio 4.48.25.13, after that I used some other raido rom and the problem was gone.
I had the same thing happen, but only once, it was after I was using a gps app in the evening, I had problems with it, it locked up and I terminated it instead of closing it, I assume the gps stayed on and drained the battery in short order.
Hi, no i have not turned the GPS in google maps on, so thats not it. Still trying some different things to narrow it down. Its not every night now, so maybe i have been lucky.....
Same story here...
In my case even worst. I got my TD2 last friday morning. The same afternoon I inserted a new microsd card with zorro-gps installed. The day after, while I was driving with the gps turned on, the phone died. I've thought it was running out of battery, but when i plugged the charger in, I could not see the red led turn on. So I had to remove and reinsert the battery in order to see the led work properly...
Unfortunately from that point the phone is not working properly anymore. While in use it dies and I cannot restart unless I remove and reinsert the battery. The problem is that this happens every 10 minutes...
I'm trying to contact the HTC support, but they are very elusive. They asked for my phone number and they said will call me back...
Did you guys try to change the batteries and see what happen?
No, didnt change the battery. Because its not every night i dont think the battery is the problem. And further more, it began about a month ago ( td2 is approx. 3 month)
FedeR1 maybe you should try hard reset!
Hex3 said:
where can i check that, cant find it!! I have spb 3
Hex3
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If you are talking about Spb mobile shell 3.0.1 then this is a reason of the power drain.
See http://www.spbclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24616
Regards,
Stepan
Thank you Stephen, spb mobile shell is out, now we have to wait and see.
Hex3 said:
No, didnt change the battery. Because its not every night i dont think the battery is the problem. And further more, it began about a month ago ( td2 is approx. 3 month)
FedeR1 maybe you should try hard reset!
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I've already tried with hard reset... nothing
btw when I restart the phon I got the message "a problem occurred with cprog.exe" any idea?
Manila 2.5 is possible. please test it with manila 2.1.
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Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
Cairo_ said:
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
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Well, Its normal to get hot when taking a long call.. (10 min or more), but while in standby, it should NEVER get even WARM (mine stays cold as ice ) !!!
The power drain maybe is cuz your phone is heating.. The heat expands circuits and increase the power drain.
Cairo_ said:
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
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..the heating is normal!
Concering the battery drain is up to the rom and completly different!
cyron_at said:
..the heating is normal!
Concering the battery drain is up to the rom and completly different!
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Not normal if the phone is on stand by mode (And I believe that`s what he`s saying ) !!!
I just installed Copilot
the battery was 14%
after the installation ended and the phone restarted
it got about 4%
Also i used the MP3 player for around and hour the battery dropped about 20%
how's that?
or should i take it back? I'm still having the phone warranty
Cairo_ said:
I just installed Copilot
the battery was 14%
after the installation ended and the phone restarted
it got about 4%
Also i used the MP3 player for around and hour the battery dropped about 20%
how's that?
or should i take it back? I'm still having the phone warranty
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About using the MP3 player for 1 hour and drop 20%, its normal.
But, 14% then sunddely goes to 4% ? Thats not freaking normal...
Just take it back to warranty ok!
haranbh said:
About using the MP3 player for 1 hour and drop 20%, its normal.
But, 14% then sunddely goes to 4% ? Thats not freaking normal...
Just take it back to warranty ok!
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I wouldn't rush to send it back. It all sounds normal to me.
You must remember that the batteries will take a few weeks to attain full capacity operation.
Keep them on charge as much as you can (mains or car/plane etc), don't switch off at night, don't cycle them and don't drain them excessively.
If that does not give an improvement THEN take them back.
When I first got my TD2 I was appalled at the battery life and bought a spare battery. I have never used it.
And when they get warm it shows that they are happily being used or recharged and is no cause for concern.
Hi Cairo,
First of all, sorry for my english.
In my case, I bought my TD2 this summer, & I had some of these problems with the battery.
I'll tell you my steps, perhaps it could help you, if not, you must talk with HTC support.
First, use modaco's nodata to disable HSDPA/3G, use only GSM, it's much better to save battery. the link :http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Second: Active Sync.
You need a task manager to see notifications.
you must find one of the repllog event.
Use this http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm.
In notifications tab find "repllog AppRunAfterTimeChange" and disable it.
In my case I have disabled two events more, PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged and PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged1 and everything works fine.
After that, in process tab, if repllog appears, kill it, and in notifications tab find again the event "repllog.exe /remote /h",disable too, and use a reg editor (dot's taskmgr has one) and search in hkcu\software\microsoft\ActiveSync, find "KeepAlive" and you must change 1 to 0.
In this case, activesync will never start again, till you connect td2 to laptop or pc with activesync (it changes the value from 0 to 1).
I hope you could understand me and the info is ok for your td2.
Regards
pa49 said:
You must remember that the batteries will take a few weeks to attain full capacity operation.
Keep them on charge as much as you can (mains or car/plane etc), don't switch off at night, don't cycle them and don't drain them excessively.
If that does not give an improvement THEN take them back.
When I first got my TD2 I was appalled at the battery life and bought a spare battery. I have never used it.
And when they get warm it shows that they are happily being used or recharged and is no cause for concern.
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Thank you for the advice i did do what u said and noticed it became a bit better
makix13 said:
Hi Cairo,
First of all, sorry for my english.
In my case, I bought my TD2 this summer, & I had some of these problems with the battery.
I'll tell you my steps, perhaps it could help you, if not, you must talk with HTC support.
First, use modaco's nodata to disable HSDPA/3G, use only GSM, it's much better to save battery. the link :http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Second: Active Sync.
You need a task manager to see notifications.
you must find one of the repllog event.
Use this http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm.
In notifications tab find "repllog AppRunAfterTimeChange" and disable it.
In my case I have disabled two events more, PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged and PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged1 and everything works fine.
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I hope you could understand me and the info is ok for your td2.
Regards
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Thanks a lot makix
your post were really helpful
i was looking for the way to disable HSDPA and i couldnt found it
Thanks a lot for your help
Hi Cairo,
the hsdpa is in Settings->More->Connections tab->Advanced Network and then u must disable hsdpa.
in settings->communications->phone->advanced->band
I've gsm and gsm(900+1800)umts(900+2100).
(my winmo & touchflo is in spanish, but i hope u can find the options )
makix13 said:
Hi Cairo,
the hsdpa is in Settings->More->Connections tab->Advanced Network and then u must disable hsdpa.
in settings->communications->phone->advanced->band
I've gsm and gsm(900+1800)umts(900+2100).
(my winmo & touchflo is in spanish, but i hope u can find the options )
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Thanks Makix
I disabled it
now my phone after one day of use with about 30 minute GPS of use
and 30 minutes of Mp3 and its 50%
better than befor

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