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Problems I'm having with K-jam

I love my new k-jam, but I am having a few unusual problems that I wouldnt' expect to be having. First of all it takes forever to find service when I go from indoors to outdoors. My old sony ericson would do it almost instantly where the k-jam takes about 5 minutes. It is acctually faster to restart the k-jam then to wait for it to find my service. Also sometimes it shows that there is shows a dot for service, but it doesn't have any and acctually it means the phone is "off". Is this normal? Do I need to upgrade?
Rom 1.1.9.3
Radio 01.01.10
Protocol 4.0.13.16
ExtRom 1.1.9.106
Last but not least I would like to change the time from 24 hour to 12 hour.
Thanks.
-Ross
P.S. I have been adding this to all of my posts, because no one seems to respond when I make a new thread about it. Does anyone use Aol instant messenger and is there a version for wm5.0?

1) Consider a slightly better topic name
2) If the phone is "off" or in flightmode it does take a little time to start & connect (but not as long as 5 mins!). And do you mean you have no reception inside? ie phone working and connected outside, walk inside & lose signal, walk outside takes 5 mins to find network again?
3) Not AIM itself, but a multi-IM client which works with AIM (aswell as MSN, ICQ, Yahoo! etc) http://www.agilemobile.com/
Edit:
Forgot 4!
4) Start/settings/system/regional settings/time
Change to HH:mm:ss or H:mm:ss not h or hh but H or HH

gunsandrosses said:
I love my new k-jam, but I am having a few unusual problems that I wouldnt' expect to be having. First of all it takes forever to find service when I go from indoors to outdoors. My old sony ericson would do it almost instantly where the k-jam takes about 5 minutes. It is acctually faster to restart the k-jam then to wait for it to find my service.
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In Phone/Options/Network, try changing the Network selection to Manual, and select the actual network(s) you are using. Should cut down much of the search and re-acquisition time.

i work in a basement where there is no signal, and it takes anywhere from 3 - 10 minutes to re-aquire a signal, it makes no difference if your network selection is manual or automatic.
this is a problem on all phone devices since 2002 PE my blueangel has the same problem, but the vario is a little bit quicker aquiring the signal

GoodLink battery drain

Battery is draining too fast when 8525 is connected data mode ( Goodlink or Xpress.)
This forced Cingular to postpone the imminant release of 8525
Any body is noticing this with the TyTn ?

Goodlink is a notorious battery killer on many devices...
I used to use Xpressmail on my SX66, and it was also a battery killer (and extremely unstable).
I'm not using either program on my TyTN though...
I'm using Exchange ActiveSync with DirectPush via PDAConnect (and isp.cingular APN). I've seen no issues whatsoever with battery life.

goestoeleven said:
I'm using Exchange ActiveSync with DirectPush via PDAConnect (and isp.cingular APN). I've seen no issues whatsoever with battery life.
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Goesto11, do you have to have the PDAConnect plan with Cingular to get pushmail without using Goodlink, or can I get it with just unlimited Medianet plan?

I have been on 3G, with DirectPush from my exchange server and battery's down to 50% since morning ..

I don't use Goodlink at all (never did).
Unlimited MediaNet forces you to use wap.cingular, which can cause timeout issues (see Sleuth's notes on the subject).
There is definitely better performance on mail delivery / polling frequency (and thus battery life) on using isp.cingular, which is only available with PDAConnect.
Whether or not the improvements are worth an extra $20/mo is a personal decision...

austin_boy ... OT .. Any news of anymore ROMs from Cingular?

@austin_boy: I can test this on my TyTN to see if the problem reproduces (Indicating hardware or not). Is v1.34 the ROM I should be using?

Cingular release of 8525
Does anyone know when Cingular plans to release this phone? My SX-66 is on its last legs.

Goesto11... thanks for the info.
Jhouse... that's the question of the year. No one knows. Speculation has been wild all over the internet. Some piece of Cingular literature said Oct. 29th, and then that ended up being an outdated piece of literature. I've heard everything from tomorrow all the way through the end of the year as release dates. Don't bother asking any of the sales people in any of the retail stores. They don't know either.
There is no one place on the net to go to keep updated on the status, but if I had to suggest a couple places to keep in tune to everyday to see if any news about it comes up, it would be Engadget Mobile (www.engadgetmobile.com) or Cingular's HTC forum (forums.cingular.com and then click on 'Cingular/HTC' and do a search for 8525). Take what they say in that forum with a grain of salt though.

Be patient. The release is imminent (before the holidays). No operator will launch a device with a potential defect. The battery problem is on the way to get solved

austin_boy said:
Be patient. The release is imminent (before the holidays). No operator will launch a device with a potential defect. The battery problem is on the way to get solved
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You evidently don't have Sprint
<---Patiently (not really) waiting

@austin_boy:
If you need more testing done prior to release, you know where to drop off the "fixed" ROM...

I have noticed the Battery drain on my Tytn, but it is only a problem when connected to 3G. Seems to be a little better on the Cingular 1.34 rom, than the stock Tytn 1.18.
I am in a 3G area all the time so my Tytn is always connected to the 3G network using the Cingular isp.cingular APN. When I first got the Tytn, the battery would go down 50 to 60 percent overnight without use(only push email with about 10 emails rec'd) if left in the Auto selection (it seems to search for the signal when set to Auto). It would only go down maybe 10 percent if set to GSM only. And would go down 30 to 50 percent if set to 3G only.
I let the battery run out several times in between full charges and it seems to be better.
I have found it is better to set the network band to either GSM/1900-850 or Wcdma/1900-850 and the battery lasts longer. Yes, it lasts a lot longer on GSM, but if I wanted just GPRS/EDGE why buy the Tytn. SO I usually set it to 3g.
I charge it on my daily commute (45 minutes) while listening/watching morning TV and the occasional call via bluetooth. Receive probably 35 to 60 emails via MSexchange Push. Make approx 10 to 15 calls and occasional surfing the web while on the phone. I sometimes have to charge it during my day at the office, but it will usually last until my drive home.
So, yes the battery does not last very long. My Prophet and Universal can easily last more than a day. But I love that 3g speed. So, if you have a tytn; get a charger for home, work and a car charger also.
I am hoping another Cingular Rom shows up for more testing.....

Battery Drain Problem

Hello Friends !!
I have purchased Dopod 838 Pro in Septemeber'06. It was working perfectly fine. I was mainly using the PDA to check my official emails. I had configured the Pocket Outlook to check for my email account every 15 Minutes and download only the Headers for the new emails.
Recently I have installed the following Software in my PDA.
1) Spb Mobile Shell
2) Phatpad CalliGrapher 8.4
3) Lexisgoo English Dictionary
4) Novii Remote Deluxe
5) Speereo Voice Translator
6) VitoVoice2Go
7) PhoneAlarm 1.58
After installing the above Software, I noticed that the Battery of my PDA started draining very fast (i.e. around 10% in one hour). I recharged the battery to 100% and it came down to 40% in 8 Hours of time.
I therefore uninstalled all the above Software, but the battery problem remained the same. Thereafter, I Hard Reset the device and did not install any additional Software (apart from which are already installed by Dopod). I just configured my email settings to check for the emails after every 15 minutes. But the Battery is still draining at the same speed (i.e. around 10% per hour).
I am using SingTel Mobile Service and I remain connected to their UMTS Service all the time for checking of my emails after every 15 minutes. Apart from that there is no additional Software installed and no Background Application is running.
I also use ActiveSync once or twice in a day to update my Contacts and Appointment details. I have already used the "Fake Server Trick" to stop the automatic running of ActiveSync in the PDA.
Earlier my PDA was used to remain ON only for few hours in a day and I did not notice the Battery drainage problem. I used to recharge the battery after every two days. Now my PDA always remains ON and connected to UMTS Service of SingTel all the time.
I want to know whether this is the normal Battery Consumption of Dopod 838 Pro or is there any problem with the Battery of my PDA.
Many Thanks for your Help !!

I think from what I've read and experienced, just being connected 3G drains the battery significantly. I'm actually experiencing the same problem but after upgrading to the leaked rom. At work, I have 3G connection, but only outside of the building. I'm always in and out, but I guess this could be contributing to the battery drain. Actually, I don't know what the deal is because the majority of the time, I'm on Edge. Maybe this is tied into the new rom (and radio rom), but I can't put my finger on it.

Many Thanks Furila21 !!
I also fell that that the Battery Drain problem relates to always on 3G connection. But it is quite strange that 3G is consuming so much of battery. Infact I have configured the Outlook to check and download the emails from my POP3 Server after every 15 minutes. Apart from that, I am not using the Internet connectivity for any other application. But still around 10 percent of the Battery get consumed every Hour and which is quite high.
I have now configured my PDA to use GPRS instead of 3G / UMTS and it seems that the Battery consumption has improved little bit after that.
Another alternative is to configure the PDA for Auto Disconnection of GPRS / 3G after Outlook downloads the emails from the Server. This can be configured through "GB-SOFT-GPRS-Tweak" or similar utilities, but I am looking for the program which can immediately disconnects the GPRS connection after use, rather than waiting for 1 or 2 minutes of no-activity.
Please do let me know the exact status of Battery Consumption of your PDA.

Friends, kindly share your experience if any of you have also faced the high Battery consumption problem while using 3G on Dopod 838 Pro.

Friends,
I have now configured the PDA to only use GPRS (i.e. GSM) for checking the emails after every 15 minutes. I have not installed any additional Software after Hard Reset and now I am using the PDA as per the default factory settings. Only Outlook is checking the emails after every 15 minutes.
Now the Battery consumption has been around 30% in the last 12 Hours (i.e. from 100% to 70%). During this period, I have not received any calls and I have not used my PDA for any other purpose.
Kindly advise if the above consumption is normal or is it still on the higher side.
Many Thanks.

Friends,
Kindly give me an approx. idea for normal Battery Consumption of "Dopod 838 Pro" in 24 hours (without using the GPRS or 3G).
Many Thanks !!

yadluck said:
Now the Battery consumption has been around 30% in the last 12 Hours (i.e. from 100% to 70%)
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With email checking every 15 mins on Edge, this sounds normal. As mentioned before, just being on UMTS/HSDPA will consume a large amount of battery power; it makes sense; the faster speed, the more battery gets consumed- Esp. with you having the connection active, checking email every so often. I've come to the realization that this isn't "strange" but is the norm for 3G usage.

[Q] xperia x2 module SL4

hey there
i just got back my x2 from service (sent there cuz battery lasts 1 day !!! - in standby) well i got it back and here are the results:
problem wasnt found
reset software module SL4
battery test - ok
now id like to know what the lollypop is that module SL4

indycar said:
hey there
i just got back my x2 from service (sent there cuz battery lasts 1 day !!! - in standby)
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I don't know what SL4 is.
But a day is absolutely normal for a phone with HSPA enabled and activsync connection turned on all the time.

1 day with only
winMO
3G off
sound n vibes off
no panels slideshow whatsoever
and u say 1 day is normal

indycar said:
1 day with only
winMO
3G off
sound n vibes off
no panels slideshow whatsoever
and u say 1 day is normal
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What is relevant on the consumption side is 3G/push email/data exchange and (obviously) apps stuck @100%.
Everything else will not change greatly the battery performance

everything is set to power savings whatever i could find here on xda forums and few tricks up my sleeve
ohhh 1day is when my phone is just turned on no calls made/recieved screen in
standby and full gsm signal

I get almost 30 hours 3g,calls (4h) without charging,no majour mods done,upgraded to latest firmware and sd card fix.
THERE IS something wrong there,if you dont talk or play with the phone it (airplane mode) it should last 2 nights,mine did so.

mrqro said:
THERE IS something wrong there
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Not necessarily.
The battery performance is strongly depended on the network conditions.
And this not means just 3G v.s 2G, or good/bad reception conditions.
There are many other variables: the 3G type (plain UMTS, HSDPA 1.8/3.6/7.2/more, HSUPA and so on), the 2G type (plain GSM, the number of GPRS timeslots enabled, the coding scheme used, the presence of EDGE and it's different revisions) and so on.
This is still not enough, you have to consider if your GSM network is on 900 or 1800 band, and you have to take in account different performances if the BTS (or nodeb) are built by one producer rather than another, and its firmware revision.
All in all you can compare the performance only if you are living in the same place and you are using the same provider.
Just for example, my Milestone (with it's intitial FW) was lasting in about 6h if used on a Vodafone network (optimal reception, high speed network), but was lasting in more than 24h if used on the Three network (average reception, older HSDPA protocol).
Same as above, years ago, my P800 (a 2G only phone) was lasting in 3/4 days with Vodafone, a mere day with Wind

battery issue is solved but im curious what is that module SL4
because thats the only thing they changed (reset) while my x2 was on service

indycar said:
battery issue is solved but im curious what is that module SL4
because thats the only thing they changed (reset) while my x2 was on service
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How did you solve the battery issue? And what's the battery times now?

i sent it to service and they
tested the battery ---> batt ok
reset module SL4 (still dunno what that is)

Native SIP clients in Gingerbread quality

after upgrading my nexus one to gingerbread i tried the native SIP Client but the quality is very bad, sound is chopped all the time, not clear at all
i tried with iptel and inphonex SIP providers
both with same result
any fix for this?

Fix? Nothing is broken.
Your problem sounds like a lack of bandwidth. How much bandwidth does the wifi connection you're connecting to have?
I have been using the sip client on my phone today with no issues other than a slight lag. Everything is crystal clear.

SIPdroid is working fine on the same telephone and same network

What codec is sipdroid using?
What codecs are supported by your sip providers?

These are the codecs supported by inphonex SIP Provider, i got these from their website
G.711
G.729
G.726
G.723
GSM
i dont know about sipdroid software

I got the same problem. SIPDroid working perfectly
Google SIP : when I talk, it's clear on the other side but what I hear is chopped, I don't know what's wrong
I'm on oxygen 2.0 with HTC desire

Hi, could anyone of you tell me how to config sipdroid? or where can I find an manual?
thanks,
I mean how to config it using google voice.

heartready said:
Hi, could anyone of you tell me how to config sipdroid? or where can I find an manual?
thanks,
I mean how to config it using google voice.
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This thread has lots of detailed instructions for getting a SIP solution to work with Google Voice on either SipDroid or cSIPSimple (even the native Gingerbread SIP stuff as well).

thanks codesplice. checking that thread now.

codesplice said:
This thread has lots of detailed instructions for getting a SIP solution to work with Google Voice on either SipDroid or cSIPSimple (even the native Gingerbread SIP stuff as well).
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by the way, I saw your signature. how is your battery life? can it last 1 day? thanks,

heartready said:
by the way, I saw your signature. how is your battery life? can it last 1 day? thanks,
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Hard to answer that, as I have Airplane Mode enabled for most of the day. I generally do about 30-minutes of wifi data stuff before work, then put on airplane mode for the 10-12 hours work day (usually with music playing for about 8 hours of that), and do another 2-3 hours of pretty heavy data usage after work (again, over wifi). After this, I usually have about 20-30% remaining.
I should be back in the States sometime next week and can PM you with my battery usage as experienced with cell data enabled again.

codesplice said:
Hard to answer that, as I have Airplane Mode enabled for most of the day. I generally do about 30-minutes of wifi data stuff before work, then put on airplane mode for the 10-12 hours work day (usually with music playing for about 8 hours of that), and do another 2-3 hours of pretty heavy data usage after work (again, over wifi). After this, I usually have about 20-30% remaining.
I should be back in the States sometime next week and can PM you with my battery usage as experienced with cell data enabled again.
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even though, to me, that's heavy usage. your battery's performance seems pretty good. r u using the stock battery?

heartready said:
even though, to me, that's heavy usage. your battery's performance seems pretty good. r u using the stock battery?
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Stock battery, WM's undervolt kernel limited to 1075Mhz, SetCPU profiles (screen off = max @ 576MHz), CM tweaked autobrightness thresholds, and I set the display to the minimum brightness for most of the time that I'm connected to wifi (kinda dark in that tent).