Can anyone make a recommendation for a motorcycle mount for the Kaiser? A standard car mount probably won't work because of the vibrations and the relatively loose fit.
I don't need it to be rain proof as I'll probably just zip it up when it's raining. I have a RAM mount on my motorcycle, but I'm sure that I can ghetto rig something if it's not RAM compatible.
FYI, I have a BMW R1150 Adventure.
Thanks,
-Humbert
I have the Seidio rubberized holster with a belt clip. I bet you could remove the belt clip and mod the holster with a clamp that would work. There are several posts of the holster modded for screen out use. I always wondered why you would want to mount it that way until I read your post.
TracyD said:
I have the Seidio rubberized holster with a belt clip. I bet you could remove the belt clip and mod the holster with a clamp that would work. There are several posts of the holster modded for screen out use. I always wondered why you would want to mount it that way until I read your post.
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Thanks, Tracy. I'll look at some of the posts and see it that works. I appreciate the pointer. Since the Kaiser has a built-in GPS, and I have TomTom, makes sense that I get rid of my old skool Garmin GPS.
-Humbert
I dunno, but I'd definitely be interested.
Found one that I think is pretty secure ...
I decided to eschew the Seido holster and bought the following instead. It looks like it's pretty stable and I got it as an open-box at Semson's for like $9 or so....
It not only slides in, but has a latch at the top. I think that I may be able to ghetto rig something to make sure that it's snug.
http://www.semsons.com/htctyiicucar.html
I'll report back when I've gotten it, installed it and (off) road tested it.
Cheers,
-Humbert
Good waterproof mounts for motorcycle
The link below is a for a product called "Aqua Box: from RAM products
http://www.ram-mount.com/mount/ram_aqua_box_mount.htm
The size that looks best suited for the TILT is the Medium size.
I've been looking for awhile for a good mount and this seems the best system.
It's sturdy, waterproof, you can operate the touch screen in the case and RAM has a variety of adapters to make the connection to your bike.
Sorry -Humbert just re-read your original post and I see you are aware of RAM products already..
Vungtau said:
The link below is a for a product called "Aqua Box: from RAM products
http://www.ram-mount.com/mount/ram_aqua_box_mount.htm
The size that looks best suited for the TILT is the Medium size.
I've been looking for awhile for a good mount and this seems the best system.
It's sturdy, waterproof, you can operate the touch screen in the case and RAM has a variety of adapters to make the connection to your bike.
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Hi Vungtau -- Thanks for the tip. I actually have the Aqua Box. It works, but it's actually almost useless because it's so difficult to see. Not only do you have a somewhat weak screen on the Tilt (vs the Garmin Colormap screens), but then you've got this layer of clear rubber with waves running over it, and you're looking at it from behind a tilted visor.
It sounded great on paper, but in practicality, I can't see anyone using it. I'd end up crashing. Ipod is OK with it, but for that, I have a different case.
If you're still bent on it, I can sell you mine for cheap.... Figure out what they're charging and I'll let it go for 1/2. But, to be honest, I wouldn't do it. It's not even worth that. If you lived in San Francisco, I'd give it to you for free.
-HHumbert
-Humbert thanks for the great feedback. Looks like I'm still looking..
I'll let you know if I find another solution..
Look at the touratech PDA mount - a clamp on isolated rubber brackets, with a semi-waterproof pouch velcro'd to it. Simple and safe. I ride a Buell, which shakes like a wet dog, but the touratech mount is about the only thing that stays still!
For a really budget soloution! I no longer use this as I now have a StreetPilot III and a bluetooth connection to the phone, but it was pretty waterproof, vibration free and cheap (about UKP£3)!
Gentlemen, I give you the tupperware box. (Seriously!) I mounted a mobile phone holder from a mountain bike shope to the handlebars, cut the nylon case that came with it off to leave a flat mounting area about the size of a matchbox, and simply screwed the box to the mount. I then put a strip of velcro in the box, another on the back of my Ipaq (the smooth bit went on the Ipaq) and covered thousands of miles quite happily. All cables were routed through a hole in the bottom of the box and ran along the bars. On the first pic, the red bars are the signal strength, this was about 4 years ago, so the recievers weren't as good as today's, and on my drive, the house blocks about 50% of the sky, so you can get an idea how well the position picks up signals.
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IMHO a much better option....
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Look at the touratech PDA mount - a clamp on isolated rubber brackets, with a semi-waterproof pouch velcro'd to it. Simple and safe. I ride a Buell, which shakes like a wet dog, but the touratech mount is about the only thing that stays still!
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Thanks, BigKuri. Looks pretty good, but it is pricey. I've got more than one Touratech bits, so I know they are expensive but of good quality, so oftentimes it's worth it.
However, this design has the same challenge as the RAM waterproof box does. It' has a layer of clear rubber/plastic over the display. At least on the RAM box, this took away too much clarity and brightness, such that the TyTN was only usable at night.
I want a "naked PDA mount". Something more along the tupperware mount that Steve-C proposed. Nice.
When I get my Semson's mount and work something up, I'll try to post a review and pictures.
-Humbert
Motorcycle mount
Did you get your motorcycle mount working? What did you end up with?
Got it working -- works great!
Thanks for asking. I did get it working and it works fantastic. Here's what I ended up with:
http://www.semsons.com/htctyiicucar.html
It's on sale now for like $13 bucks. To attach it to my handlebar on my motorcycle, I basically used a RAM mount handlebar mount, and the long arm to clip onto the back of the Semson's mount.
So, I angle the Semson suction part of the mount upwards, and have the RAM mount grip the joint that is there at the last bend. It doesn't seem as if it's the most secure, but it works fine. It holds it at the correct angle for me. Plus, I get to preserve the suction cup mount, so that I can take this mount and use it on rental cars.
This weekend, I'll be wiring up the mini-USB power to my bike, so that TomTom isn't draining the batteries and I have some juice left when I get to a meeting. I live in San Francisco, and typically, when I need a GPS, it's to navigate to meetings in places I don't know about in San Jose, and the Penninsula. That's about a 45-60 minute ride or so, and that can drain a big chunk of battery using GPS and TomTom.
I will take pictures of the bike and post it here later...
Enjoy,
-Humbert
Some pictures of the mount on my BMW R1150 GS Adventure
Here are some pictures of the Semsens mount on my BMW. The handlebar on the bike (along with 90% of the rest of the bike, actually ) is a custom Renthal motocross mount, but any RAM-mount capable bar should work. I'm using the 8" RAM mount that normally clips onto a RAM mount ball, but it turns out if you torque it down well enough, it grips the Tilt mount just fine (very secure).
Here is a link to a Picasa web album.
http://picasaweb.google.com/MikePetonic/BMWTitleMount
Hope that this helps,
-Humbert
Thanks for the pics. I just got the Scala Q2Intercom head sets and I need to mount my phone where I can get to it
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Thanks for the pics. I just got the Scala Q2Intercom head sets and I need to mount my phone where I can get to it
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Hey, Tracy, let me know how you like the Scala Q2s... instead of using their Scala speakers, can you plug in plain 3.5mm earplugs? I have custom molded audioplugs (www.earplugco.com) and would prefer using them instead of any intercom's set of speakers.
In the past, I modded my Autocom's to be able to do this (before they actually realized that they could make money selling adapters that did this).
I like the specs of the Scala series... How nice is the microphone? Does it work well at speed?
-Humbert
I like the Q2 overall. It is a great intercom, an adequate phone headset, and a fair FM radio. Worst first.
I live on the Kitsap Penisula near Bremerton and all the good radio stations are in Seattle. The ones I like the best are a little weak over here and so the reception is only adequate.
The phone works great for the most part. I have an HTC 3/4 helmet and talk is good up to around 50mph. The HTC's have very deep ear slots. I am going to try putting a spacer in there to get the earpieces closer. The Tilt is notoriously quiet on bluetooth but I was able to get some more gain by using some tweaks found here. All the phone functions work fine. If I am talking to one of my louder offspring, it is fine.
The intercom works best of all the functions. My wife and ride seperate Suzuki Boulevards. We had Chatterbox FRS units and they were an exercise in futility. The VOX never worked well at speed. The Q2's work very well. We only lost each other when she got stuck at a light and I kept going. We lost contact when I got out of sight below an overpass hump. The sound is quite good and there is little wind noise, in fact, I hear her engine more than I hear the wind.
I used the GPS on my Tilt and used BT Toggle to transfer the output of the GPS to the headset. All was well.
The one major design failing of the Q2 is that it is not A2DP. BT Toggle will transfer the audio, but not in stereo. Alas, there are no headphone jacks.
I also use the scala rider with the htc but I cant make the cyberon dial works, in other words when I push the buttom I cant ask to dial numbers. do you have the same problem?
I use Voice Command and it work great. My wife's Treo 750 won't send the Voice Command prompts through the headset, but work fine once connected. Very Odd.
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For Car mount check this out:
http://gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11522
I purchased one of these for my AT&T Tilt and it's awesome. Made in Germany. Ships from UK, takes about a week or so to arrive in the US. Also comes with car charger, windshield suction mount and a dash mount. Very good quality stuff not like the junk made in Asia.
I haven't decided what mount solution to go with for my Vario III, I currently drive an Octavia, the power socket is next to the hand brake, and theres a audio in socket in the cubby box. Might go for a vent mount, I noticed theres an attachment system for taking the pda-air cases, could be what I am after. If I do go for an arm system it will probably be the one above, looks well made, and extremely adjustable.
c6638746 said:
For Car mount check this out:
http://gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11522
I purchased one of these for my AT&T Tilt and it's awesome. Made in Germany. Ships from UK, takes about a week or so to arrive in the US. Also comes with car charger, windshield suction mount and a dash mount. Very good quality stuff not like the junk made in Asia.
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is it possible to slide out the top half of the device and tilted while it is in the mount ??? ( picture hinted so but not while the device is mounted.
Thanks ... looks high quality !
UnicornKaz said:
top half of the device can be slide out and tilt WHILE it is in the mount ??? ( picture hinted so but not while the device is mounted.
Thanks ... looks high quality !
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I purchased one from www.ipaqcarkits.com. I've been using their system for years and very pleased. It's a two part system- you select your phone (e.g. Tilt) - they have 4 to chose from- I got the 968752 which has the charger built in. Then you specify a mount for your car. They typically have several choices for every car. I was one of the first folks to get this mount- released about 2 weeks ago for the Tilt. Had previously been using their system with a Treo.
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I purchased one from www.ipaqcarkits.com. I've been using their system for years and very pleased. It's a two part system- you select your phone (e.g. Tilt) - they have 4 to chose from- I got the 968752 which has the charger built in. Then you specify a mount for your car. They typically have several choices for every car. I was one of the first folks to get this mount- released about 2 weeks ago for the Tilt. Had previously been using their system with a Treo.
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This is the Proclip holder. I just purchased one for my tilt (without the built in charger, since I already have a hardwired USP charger that I use for charging my bluetooth headset). Unfortunately, they have been very backordered. I've been waiting 2 weeks and it still has not shipped. After purchasing it on Nov 14th, they told me it was backordered and said it would ship on the 21st. They later delayed it until Nov 30 and now sometime next week. Poor planning on their part.
How thick?
Toby314 said:
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I purchased one from www.ipaqcarkits.com. I've been using their system for years and very pleased. It's a two part system- you select your phone (e.g. Tilt) - they have 4 to chose from- I got the 968752 which has the charger built in. Then you specify a mount for your car. They typically have several choices for every car. I was one of the first folks to get this mount- released about 2 weeks ago for the Tilt. Had previously been using their system with a Treo.
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How'thick'is it when in the cradle, Toby?
I am planning to build one in my armrest (but the lid should be able to close). I have limited space available.
It would have to lie on its back (incl. cradle).
Could you measure it up for me?
Cheers.
GPSForLess do a powered mount too:-
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11918
I have the unpowered one like the first post in this thread - it is very good. Can get different adapters that clip on in case you change your phone.
warmkiwi99 said:
GPSForLess do a powered mount too:-
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11918
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Does anyone have any experience of the above powered mount with handsfree?
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It appears to have a headset socket to the rear of the charger/speaker, if this is stereo out it would suit my needs.
buygpsnow.com claims that they will have a car mount with a built FM transmitter for the Kaiser. I am currently holding out for that.
http://discussion.buygpsnow.com/forums/thread/5571.aspx
wizzzard said:
Does anyone have any experience of the above powered mount with handsfree?
It appears to have a headset socket to the rear of the charger/speaker, if this is stereo out it would suit my needs.
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Does this come with an charger for cigar case?
wizzzard said:
Does anyone have any experience of the above powered mount with handsfree?
It appears to have a headset socket to the rear of the charger/speaker, if this is stereo out it would suit my needs.
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anybody bought or have this mount??
Bjur said:
Does this come with an charger for cigar case?
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The pictures I posted dont show the bottom of the unit, the charger is built in to the underneath of the speaker/mic unit. I still dont know if it has stereo out from the socket at the back of the unit. I will find out at Xmas as my kids are going to have a word with Santa for me, It beats new slippers, socks and Soap on a Rope
Quote from the website..
Features
Latest DSP technology for the best sound quality in the car
Secure to any vehicle with ease Power & charge your PDA
Moulded mount for perfect fit
Plugs into Car Lighter Socket
Handsfree speaker on the car lighter adapter
On Off switch for charge
Volume control
So this company has interfaces that let you control your PDA from your car stereo. Would be pretty slick if they had one for HTC.
wizzzard said:
The pictures I posted dont show the bottom of the unit, the charger is built in to the underneath of the speaker/mic unit. I still dont know if it has stereo out from the socket at the back of the unit. I will find out at Xmas as my kids are going to have a word with Santa for me, It beats new slippers, socks and Soap on a Rope
Quote from the website..
Features
Latest DSP technology for the best sound quality in the car
Secure to any vehicle with ease Power & charge your PDA
Moulded mount for perfect fit
Plugs into Car Lighter Socket
Handsfree speaker on the car lighter adapter
On Off switch for charge
Volume control
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Okay, my english is not that good, so just to be absolutely sure, I don't need to order a separate car lighter charger? There is all that I need to also charge my TyTN II in my car in this package?
Bjur said:
Okay, my english is not that good, so just to be absolutely sure, I don't need to order a separate car lighter charger? There is all that I need to also charge my TyTN II in my car in this package?
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Yes the charger is built in. BUT I have just heard from gpsforless and it is NOT stereo output from the rear socket.
I don't think you can but I will try and confirm. Hope you are not trying to drive and text
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is it possible to slide out the top half of the device and tilted while it is in the mount ??? ( picture hinted so but not while the device is mounted.
Thanks ... looks high quality !
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tak.japan said:
anybody bought or have this mount??
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I've just ordered this mount (with built in power supply and speaker). It should arrive today so I'll check it out and let you know how it works out.
I think this is the kidigi mount I have been looking for. I have been trying to find a place to buy one in the US, as it looks like it is exactly what I need. It will definitely make a difference if the jack is not stereo out though. And a mic out jack would be ideal too. Please let us know. If people like it, we may be able to arrange a group buy, and/or see if the xda store will carry it.
Strange, I edited my last post but it's gone - sorry to all if it re-appears and I end up double posting
Anyway, my holder arrived and I love it for my style of use....
Suction cup - VERY strong
Vibration - None at speeds up to 85mph (70 if you're a policeman ) - even with window open.
Sound - Mono only. Great for SatNav. Voice is clear even when listening to music. Vol control works ok. Music is ok, but obviously only mono – good for me because I travel internationally a lot and get fed up with foreign oompah music.
Charger – holds change and charges phone while using satnav. Don’t know about this if the battery is VERY low – I’ll see if I can get the charger power output next time I’m in my car.
Voice calls – not tested yet, but I think the speaker will be fine. Can’t say about the mic yet.
Headphone jack – not tested for mono/stereo – I’ll dig out some old ‘phones later and try.
All in all I love it, but it’s probably not for you if you want surround sound etc.
About the suction cup. Is seems you can bend it, so you can use it not only it the window but also at front desk. Is that possible?
Has anyone tried the HTC TyTN II Navigation Upgrade Kit (CU S120)
Was thinking about getting it as i no longer trust my Brodit active holder due to my USB port blowing while using it and having to send the phone away to HTC for repair
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=159378
Only £23.95 so an even cheaper solution than the Brodit
Does this include only the cradle and charger, or also the external GPS-antenna as shown in the picture?
I assume as it's the navigation kit it will include the GPS antenna as shown, i've ordered one as very cheap for an original HTC cradle. says they should have stock in 8 days so i'll let you know when i receive it
Although the external antenna is pictured, the description reads-
The GPS Navigation Upgrade Kit contains:
HTC TyTN II Car Charger
HTC TyTN II Gooseneck Device Holder
I take that to mean NO antenna. You really don't need it anyway. This looks like a nice rig. I wish they had a better description. I wonder if it is fixed or if it can rotate 90 degrees.
Good find, though. Thanks.
I was assuming as it's a navigation kit it would include the antenna as if it doesn't it's just a straight forward car kit.
just hoping i can take the mount off and somehow fix it to my proclip which is already in place, i'll let you know when it turns up and take a picture as the one shown is for a different model
Be carefully
In this picture is show an upgrade kit for P3600
Hi All
The picture for this kit has been updated
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159378
As shown, it doesn't include the GPS antenna.
Well the GPS antenna is lying next to it in that picture, you have the cradle, the car charger and the object on the right is the GPS antenna.
Had one ordered since December and now due in 5th FEB, if it ever turns up i'll let you know what the kit comes with
That kit looks pretty nice. I went the cheap route and got a universal one from ebay. It also comes with a charger.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAR-MOUNT-FOR-H...eZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
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Well the GPS antenna is lying next to it in that picture, you have the cradle, the car charger and the object on the right is the GPS antenna.
Had one ordered since December and now due in 5th FEB, if it ever turns up i'll let you know what the kit comes with
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What? If you mean this the thing on the right from the cradle is the windshield mount.
Or what did you mean?
Anyone that has this care to review it?
I've had one on order since december and the due date keeps getting moved back, it's saying now it's 5 days although i won't hold my breath.
I'll post some pictures etc when i receive it
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What? If you mean this the thing on the right from the cradle is the windshield mount.
Or what did you mean?
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I was about to point out the same thing !!!
That is just the windshield suction gooseneck to hold the cradle !!!
' buddy must be smoking something !!
UnicornKaz said:
I was about to point out the same thing !!!
That is just the windshield suction gooseneck to hold the cradle !!!
' buddy must be smoking something !!
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That's because expansys have changed the picture since i posted that comment, it used to have the gooseneck mount and then a GPS antenna lying by the side like this one
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151392
This kit was supplied with my TyTN II when I got my phone through Three Australia (without the GPS antenna). It's a good quality mount, and I have had no problems with the car charger (glows blue matching my dash colour ;p).
It's a really snug fit and easy to adjust from portrait to landscape depending on your preference, and the windscreen mount is very secure.
You can't slide the phone in with a case (although I don't have one, the slimline rubber cases *may* at a real pinch, but I wouldn't bet on it).
I'm happy with it - especially as it was thrown in by the dealer.
My kit turned up this morning, it's basically the herbert richter cradle with gooseneck mount and a HTC car charger which has a blue glowing HTC on it
The phone fits really nice in the cradle but you cannot slide it open to use the keyboard. All in all quite pleased as don't use the keyboard while driving anyway.
I got one of these from my carrier (3 australia) well. the charger is good & the mount sems to stick quite well to he windshield. i've gone through a few not so smooth stretches of road with out a problem. i am quite concerned about scratching the device though. as others have already mentioned, it's quite a tight snug fit, which is good for obvious reasons... the inside of the holder however is just naked plastic, no soft lining... is this going to cause scratches on the front of the phone with extended use? anyone wh has had one of these for a while care to comment?
also what are the chances of getting a seidio protected tytn ii into that holder? is there an alternative holder which will snap into the goose neck??
After going through several lousy car mounts with dangling cigarette lighter wires and suction cups popping off the windshield and dashboard I had had enough of this *(&*^&*&^(*)(%$%$#. Time to put on a professional looking permanent installation!
After much research I came upon a solution for my AT&T Tilt. I have an older Taurus which does not have any external (even in the back of the radio) connectivity for audio inputs, so I decided against making changes to integrate the sound between the tilt and the car (but I did want the unit's batteries charged in the mount). Note all powered car mounts need a small transformer, which in many of the versions out there in the marketplace are oin the mount itself, which makes it very bulky. I preferrred one that comes with a separate transformer which can be hidden. I also wanted the PDA up near the windshield so I would not have to look far away from the road while driving, which I consider dangerous - but did not want to have some huge clunky thing sticking up in the middle of the dash - I wanted it as small and unobtrusive as possible. The only mount specifically designed for snapping into place on my model car my car (www.proclipusa.com) actually put the mount on the console down near the shifter between the seats so that was not very useful either. I had decided upon the active Brodit car mount as I wanted to be able to open the keyboard while the unit is in the mount, and wanted to be able to move the mount any which way without worrying if the mount would come loose. This car kit is minimal in size and has a separate transformer which can be hidden as well. With all the above caveats there was nothing else on the market that was handy, unobtrusive, and didn't end up with a lousy plug for the lighter to power the unit (yech). So, here was my solution (7 photos attached). All the parts shown can be purchased at www.proclipusa.com.
Photo #1: Dashboard showing my situation (this was actually part way through the installation, you can see the transformer hanging down under the steering wheel, I just stuffed it up out of view when I was finished with the work).
Photo #2: Fuse Box Connections (under the steering wheel by the firewall). Note all I did was pull the cover off the fuse box, pull the 20 amp fuse out, and wrap the red positive lead around one of the prongs of the fuse which I just stuck in place later. I will probably buy an in-line fuse and put it on the red wire later. (I used the 20 amp fuse for the ignition for the ignition which is only powered while the car is running - I wanted this for the mount's transformer so as not to wear down the battery when the car is not in use). The black lead only has to go to the ground in the car so you can see I was just starting to wrap it around the nut holding the fusebox in place, which is grounded.
Photo #3: Note - all powered car mounts need a small transformer, which in many of the versions out there in the marketplace are on the mount itself, which makes is very bulky. I preferrred one that comes with a separate transformer which can be hidden. So with everything wired up and installed, I hid the wire (and transformer below) andnothing is in view but the wire for the brodit mount going up to the dash. Also note the block attached to the dashboard - to the left of the steering wheel. Easily visibly by the driver, and not destroying the look of the dash in the middle of the car. This block was still too horizontal but it is very solidly connected to the dashboard on the left of the driver's seat, up near the windshield but neatly out of the way. No windshield obstruction whatsoever!
Photo #4: I mounted a second block on top of the first to improve the angle. Note the center two holes which were added for screws to connect the two block and still leave the surface of the second block flat for the brodit mount. It not only made the installation rock solid, but I decided to improve that even further by replacing the two screws on the bottom first block and putting longer screws on the bottom going through both blocks. (I did not want to glue the second block onto the first because that way I would have no way of removing the screws holding the first block in place later - and glue comes undone.) This thing is rock hard - not going anywhere. Most other car mounts get loose over time and with just a little wiggling end up coming off. Not this baby! Won't even wiggle!
Photo #5: Brodit mount screwed onto the top block. Beautiful! Swivels 360% around and tilts every which way. The screw in the center of the mount can be tightened slightly so that the mount only moves if you really try to move it using definite force. Nothing at all loose here - rock solid! (Also note, this mount can be swapped for another brodit mount fitting any PDA on the market, just by loosening that center screw!) Note the two circled areas. They are tiny plastic adhesive wire holders which can be purchased at any hardware store to keep the wires where you want them...
Photo #6: Vertical use with AT&T Tilt - (see white circle - being charged)!
Photo #7: Horizontal use with AT&T Tilt - note you can easily slide the keyboard open - (see white circle - still being charged)!
dude, looks sweet. What are you doing this coming weekend? Can you work on my car?
this is really awesome! the only thing is that i hope ur left handed
Left handedness
I don't think left or right-handedness is a factor - when driving on the highway you cannot really touch any of the tiny software buttons on the screen to use the thing anyway - too dangerous. However, the external hardware buttons - I don't think most people have to use their predominant hand to press a hardware button... If that was the case then most drivers in europe (with the right side steering wheel) wouldn't be able to use the radio unless they were left handed?
Don't you find it very difficult to put the Tytn2 into the Brodit holder? I have one too, but I find it very cumbersome. I have to fiddle with it a couple of times before I get it in properly (onto the USB connector). Previously I had the Brodit holder for my MDA Vario and that went in with my eyes closed.
My guess is that the bad fit is caused by the big empty space between the back of the device and the holder (for big batteries?). If Brodit was to make something to fit in there so that you have some kind of reference when you insert the device, it would be better. The way it is now, it is only irritating me in the morning...
Sliding it in
I find I do have to adjust it ever so slightly to get it seated correctly. However, I believe it is better to have the space so that:
1. The unit will fit with any size battery
2. The GPS signal is not weakened
KruseLudsMobile said:
I find I do have to adjust it ever so slightly to get it seated correctly. However, I believe it is better to have the space so that:
1. The unit will fit with any size battery
2. The GPS signal is not weakened
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I doubt the GPS signal is weakened less by the plastic being an inch further away. And I don't know where the actual antenna is. If it's there where the connector is, it's no problem. That one is clear from the holder.
Also, it's a contradiction to have both the holder and a fat battery. I'm in my car for an hour or two every day (sometimes longer). Long enough to keep the battery loaded. The engineers of Brodit could have thought of an insert so that the space is filled. If you have a fat battery, remove the insert.
I'm not a clumsey person. My previous device slipped in the Brodit holder like it came of the same mould. This one is next to impossible to do without looking very careful, which is not easy in the dark. It's also part fault of the device manufacterers. My old Nokia phone had special idents at the bottom which gripped into the carkit. They don't do that anymore. They seem to think that because of BT you keep the device in your pocket. Such a shame...
Reception
There is one thing I do have to say about your last response - the reception woulod be affected if there were no space there. The GPS antenna is in the back and that part of the holder is completely metal.
KruseLudsMobile said:
There is one thing I do have to say about your last response - the reception woulod be affected if there were no space there. The GPS antenna is in the back and that part of the holder is completely metal.
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Yeah, but the antenna is on the top part of the device (where the external GPS antenna plug is). And that is the part that is nog covered by the holder. ie: it sticks out. So I doubt if the reception would be hampered by the holder if there wasn't a space.
Reported experience after extensive use (as promised) - daily for 2 1/2 weeks
As promised here is my experience after extensive use. Promise to try to keep the rambling to a minimum.
Sections below -
A. Four warnings - all on safety
B. Stylus Access/Battery Usage
C. GPS/Battery Usage
D. Position of the Mount
E. Gap on the Mount
F. Sliding in and out of the holder
G. Mount closer or further away from the driver; more dangerous? More convenient? -
H. Mount Location legality?
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A. Three warnings - all on safety:
1. The extra cabling and transformer that I had just stuffed up behind other wires near the fusebox near the foot pedals - fell out and was hanging down - not very safe - but fortunately it did not happen while I was driving. Good note to people installing anything in their car - be sure everything mounted anywhere near where your hands and feet go while driving - is very securely mounted!
2. DO NOT USE the screen for anything but GPS display - even if you are using voice recognition software (as you need to then look at the screen) unless using only to make phone calls.
3. Note "B." below. I advise AGAINST trying to use a stylus while you are driving. VERY EASY to get into an accident.
4. NEVER, EVER, EVER leave the unit in the cradle - or even anywhere in the car - when you are out of the car for any length of time at all. Some people say even having their cars broken into because a thief saw the mount and thought the unit may be in the glove compartment.
B. Stylus Access/Battery Usage - I have seen only one holder (not this one) that includes a separate slot for an extra stylus to use while the Kaiser is in the car mount. This one does not include that - BUT - you can STILL pull out the stylus easily even when the unit is in the mount - handy. BTW, GPS programs really do such the life out of these batteries, don't they? At least with this mount it is charging it with enough juice to overcome the GPS drain (I have seen older (non-Kaiser) PDAs that drain juice faster than they get charged when in a indoor powered cradle nonetheless!). I don't know if that ability to charge even when a lot of power is being consumed by the unit is due to the charger or the version of the PDA itself. Anyone want to run some tests with different mount/cradle/PDA/software combinations?
C. GPS/Battery Usage - I won't get into a heavy discussion about GPS software in this thread because I don't want it to go off on a tangent. Suffice it to say the unit is often off track by about 25-50 feet at the max (usually about 25 feet) when I have a signal - but the GPS sure does use alot of juice, doesn't it? It seems like if you get into the car with a unit that has a somewhat low battery charge and use the GPS in the holder (while charging if the ignition is on of course - that's the way you should wire it) the PDA battery still does get recharged - but much more slowly. Funny thing is, that is not even an issue because I usually would not use the GPS unless I am driving longer distances anyway. If the battery is really low and I don't need the GPS (most trips) I will just set the unit to sleep or even turn the unit off altogether (phone included) and put it into the mount when I get in the car - for even a very short drive the battery really charges very quickly with this mount (yeah ). How about a car mount with a slot in the back for an extra battery? That would be nice...
D. Position of the Mount -I could have possibly used another angled block. I find myself sometimes trying to tilt the mount ever so slightly more than it can go (so the screen is more vertical). However, that is a very minor isue and at this point not work making any modifications. (I may change my mind later, however - if so, I will supply more photos or update the original sticky post here.)
E. Gap on the Mount - Gap that people have been talking about behind the unit (between the back of the unit and the mount) - that does not bother me so much as the fat connector at the bottom of the unit - which is somewhat unsightly and larger than it needs to be. It does block my headlight switches - but I never need to look at those switches anyway.
F. Sliding in and out of the holder - this is an issue but a very minor one. I find that about 10-15% of the time when I slide it into place it is not mounted correctly and I have to pull it out and try to slide it in again. I suppose if there was no gap as specified in "E." above then it would slide into place 100% of the time with no problem. Although I believe it is meant to allow people with extended (larger) batteries to also use the unit - since it is always powered while I am driving the car - I rarely need to charge my batteries anyway. I was going to get an extended battery - but I really have no need to - most of the time I am at the office, at home, or in the car. In each of those three places I have a charger. I also keep a charger in my briefcase so when I go from office to office for meetings etc. I always have a charger nearby anyway...
G. Mount closer or further away from the driver; more dangerous? More convenient? - wouldn't drivers be more tempted to check email, etc. if it was really close to the driver?
H. Mount Location legality? - Isn't it a rule in the US that the windshield cannot be blocked at all (in my case it isn't) - even though the rule may be loosely or rarely enforced - isn't that what the suction cups on windshields do? Anybody get a ticket because of that? Or is the rule about partial blockage? Is this a state or nationwide regulation, what are the rules for that in Europe? ( I am in the US in NJ...)
Really good thread here. I figured I'd share the pics of my HTC Tilt mounted with the same car kit in my 1998 GMC Sierra K1500.
-Jay
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Looks nice...
Looks very nice, thanks for the post... but - how come you use a cigarette lighter plug instead of the kit with the wires you can hide? You may want to consider that...
KruseLudsMobile said:
Looks very nice, thanks for the post... but - how come you use a cigarette lighter plug instead of the kit with the wires you can hide? You may want to consider that...
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Because I want to buy a second device clip for my car, and be able to switch between the two. I don't want to have to buy two $69 cradles, especially to buy a second cradle for a car that I only drive about 2,500 miles a year.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
Because I want to buy a second device clip for my car, and be able to switch between the two. I don't want to have to buy two $69 cradles, especially to buy a second cradle for a car that I only drive about 2,500 miles a year.
-Jay
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Not to mention the hard wire kit is another $30 more than the cig lighter one.
I recently took the plunge and bought the active kit and a clip for my Impala. I'm planning on doing the same thing and getting a clip for the Tahoe eventually. Still not looking forward to another $30 for just the clip. I'm hoping the build quality and stability is worth the small fortune you have to pay.
joshuah82 said:
Not to mention the hard wire kit is another $30 more than the cig lighter one.
I recently took the plunge and bought the active kit and a clip for my Impala. I'm planning on doing the same thing and getting a clip for the Tahoe eventually. Still not looking forward to another $30 for just the clip. I'm hoping the build quality and stability is worth the small fortune you have to pay.
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$30 more? I didn't notice that. For that price I'd cut the lighter plug off and hard wire it if I really wanted a hard wired solution.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
$30 more? I didn't notice that. For that price I'd cut the lighter plug off and hard wire it if I really wanted a hard wired solution.
-Jay
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Don't do it that way. Many/all "car chargers" have circuitry inside the plug that protects your phone. A better solution is to buy a $5 cigarette lighter "socket" from radio shack, wire that in somewhere behind your dash, then plug your kit into that.
As promised - pic of my install in a 2004 Nissan Titan. Mounting brackets (for the phone and iPod) are both from Panavise.
40-Dan said:
As promised - pic of my install in a 2004 Nissan Titan. Mounting brackets (for the phone and iPod) are both from Panavise.
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Looks sharp!
-Jay
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Also a picture from my setup in the car....
TytNII
brodit active kit with proclip
parrot MK6000
Pioneer headset!
All works like a charm.....
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Also a picture from my setup in the car....
TytNII
brodit active kit with proclip
parrot MK6000
Pioneer headset!
All works like a charm.....
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I hope you're not watching videos while driving!
-Jay
Anyone had any experience of the Brodit pro mount and device holders?
I am looking to purchase the following items for my car:
- Brodit Active Holder - 968848
- Brodit Pro Clip - 653716
That should hopefully mount and secure my Touch Pro nicely in my Toyota Aygo and charge at the same time. I'm not keen on having the place the device in a holder and then find the cable and plug the connector into the device so this option looks great. Just a one step process!
Anyway, all comments would be appreciated.
Thanks
Regards,
Neil
I got the Brodit active holder for my Touch (Elfin)... Besides the fact that it was a little pricey for the 2 items, they work great, and fit perfectly in my Jeep. I'd recommend this holder to anyone... And I'm considering getting one for my Raph...
Yeh, they are a little pricey but I'd rather spend £54 on a good solid mount which is easy to use and not throw my £500 new phone around the car onto the floor as I am driving and the fact that it only requires 1 step from me to get it mounted in a good viewing position and have it charging at the same time is a bonus!
Thanks
Regards,
Neil
I'm keeping my eye on this one and will probably purchase when it's available:
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/HTC..._PRO_CUSTOM_CAR_MOUNT_WITH_HANDSFREE_KIT.html
Had a very similar one for my Kaiser and it was excellent.
I seem to like the look of the Brodit systems as they fit to the dashboard trim and so should reduce vibrations a lot more and hold the device more securely. I also do not need the hands free part as my Aygo came with inbuilt Bluetooth anyway which works perfectly so am just after a holder with charger which is what i shall purchase a bit later today from Clove Technology.
Thanks
Regards,
Neil
My brother has a Brodit car mount for the Tytn II and it wasn't a perfect fit. You have to specifically angle the phone while inserting it or the USB wont insert and the you cannot seat the phone.
I bought a CarComm holder which although a little chunky was a perfect fit. Now that I have upgraded to a touch pro i have removed the side part of the bracket and it still holds my Touch Pro fine.
That said, as soon as available i will be swapping it for the official TouchPro cradle (which they say is smaller). http://www.carcomm.nl/carcomm/websh...ProductId=0910B5DC-5056-8659-08A2B18B78FC3CA5
atece said:
My brother has a Brodit car mount for the Tytn II and it wasn't a perfect fit. You have to specifically angle the phone while inserting it or the USB wont insert and the you cannot seat the phone.
I bought a CarComm holder which although a little chunky was a perfect fit. Now that I have upgraded to a touch pro i have removed the side part of the bracket and it still holds my Touch Pro fine.
That said, as soon as available i will be swapping it for the official TouchPro cradle (which they say is smaller). http://www.carcomm.nl/carcomm/websho...A2B18B78FC3CA5
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Hi there,
as a longtime Brodit car holder user, I would like to bring light into this conversation. I'm using Brodit car-kits since... forever LOL ;o) Been using it with my Symbians (N73, E61, E90) and to be honest, the materials they use, the way it's glued together, isn't that fancy for the price they want. Now I always had in my mind another company, making 3rd party car-kits and I knew they were perfect, seen it in my friends' Chrysler, and the holder really did fit the car with style and looks. I just could not remember the name of the company. Yesterday as I was dreaming, I had a flashback and remembered the company. So if you really want to go for quality and good looks with your HTC, consider looking after Carcomm's holders. Here's a link of one I'm getting, the price is almost the same as the complete kit of Brodit and Proclip. Personally, I do prefer window-mounted holders, so I've got nothing to think of anymore, ordering the piece in the link:
http://www.carcomm.nl/carcomm/websh...ProductId=0910B5DC-5056-8659-08A2B18B78FC3CA5
Cheers,
chribok
rctneil said:
Anyone had any experience of the Brodit pro mount and device holders?
I am looking to purchase the following items for my car:
- Brodit Active Holder - 968848
- Brodit Pro Clip - 653716
That should hopefully mount and secure my Touch Pro nicely in my Toyota Aygo and charge at the same time. I'm not keen on having the place the device in a holder and then find the cable and plug the connector into the device so this option looks great. Just a one step process!
Anyway, all comments would be appreciated.
Thanks
Regards,
Neil
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I got mine last week for Raphael the one with the cigar charger part number is 968848 from dsl developments, it fits well and charges as any other brodit holder, so no issues at all.
Cheers
LB
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Active Holder for HTC Touch Pro
Keep your PDA in an active holder in your vehicle, and you will always have a freshly charged battery! Active holders are available with a cigarette lighter cable for connection to the vehicle's 12 Volt socket, and for fixed installation for connection inside the dashboard. The device has got the connector for charging on the side of the device. The active holders offer a firm fit, it is easy to put the phone in the holder and then connect the charging cable to it. The device is in a horizontal, open position in the holders.
The holders are equipped with a tilt swivel, this means that you can adjust the angle of your device for easier viewing and avoiding light reflection. Attach onto the ProClip Mounting Platform.
Active holder with cig-plug
Item no. 968853
Active holder for fixed installation, with Molex adapter system
Item no. 971853
My Active Brodit holder for the HTc Touch Pro - Vertical mount style (closed) and the pro clip centre for my AYGO were dispatced today so when I get them, maybe Thursday I would expect then I shall post here to let you know what I think of it
Bought one of them and waiting as well for my Integra, I'll keep everyone posted of how it looks like and the feel in the car too.
I think the Brodit holders are really good. But I can verify that the active holder for TyTN II wasn't perfect, but fullt functional, The non-active worked alot better.
So I'm gonna get a Brodit car holder for my Raphael as soon as the horisontal one get out. I want to be able to use the keyboard even in the car.
They have already an horizontal holder for the Touch Pro, reference 848853.
The vertical one has a good fit, but whenever you slide the TP out, the Stylo gets stuck in the holder, so it drops out. Little, but very annoying design faul
I need to get more patience, then I would have waited for the horizontal one
Hmm, I just mounted it so I'm not really sure whether it has flaws yet. Give me two days
joeltje said:
The vertical one has a good fit, but whenever you slide the TP out, the Stylo gets stuck in the holder, so it drops out. Little, but very annoying design faul
I need to get more patience, then I would have waited for the horizontal one
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thnx for your comment!
I'll go for the vertical then...
Just picked up the horizonal passive one for 24 euro. Fits well, typical brodit quality
Brodit 843848
I bought a Brodit 843848 active holder with 3-in-1-adapter. I totally forgot that the 3-in-1-adapter makes the Touch Pro go into headset mode so the internal speaker is disabled.
Anyone knows if it's possible to modify the adapter so that only USB charging is working? I've sent an e-mail to Brodit, but they cannot (or will not) help me with this (which I can understand in a way).
Thanks!
I've always used brodit mounts way back when i first had a qtek9100. they are great and you can chop the cig adaptor and wire it in directly which makes it more permanent....
I bought the horizontal open mount, and it holds the device really secure. As was mentioned earlier it does take a lot of the vibration out of the whole setup because of the way it wedges in between panels. I used a bracketron grip-it prior to the brodit setup and it was junk because it was universal, huge, and a vent mount which meant it flopped around since the vents move up/down.
I paired it up with a 3 in one cable from ebay, wired in a 2nd cig lighter to the inside of my dash, then plugged the cig charger into the cable so that the result is one cable coming out of my dash near the upper cup holder, then wired the 3 in one into my aux in on my headunit. Now i have music/gps coming out of my speakers and when calls come in it goes to my parrot via BT so i can use the mic mounted to my steering column cowl. I regret having spent the 20 bucks on the bracketron grip-it *facepalm*
Hi,
I'm looking for a head unit that would actually be 1 DIN, including the screen (so no pop-up screen, no tablet-ish on a stick). I wish I had more space but I have to make do with this:
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If the screen doesn't fill the whole slot (because that's a weird form factor), that's ok. I'm semi-tempted to buy a used Parrot Asteroid Classic but it's sooooo outdated that I'm think I'd prefer my tape player.
Alternatively, just a screen (which would be plugged to a Raspberry Pi or whatever) could be a step forward.
I'd be grateful for any piece of information.
I'm hoping to be able to achieve something like that:
I had a pyle slide out touchscreen in my ranger. I just had to adjust the screen so it didn't hit the vent above it similar to your setup. What I did instead though was remove the vent and block it off above the single din. that made a nice slot for the screen to fit when extended. Wish I had pictures but I switched trucks and haven't swapped stereo decks yet. Used the back up camera input to plug in whatever I wanted, bypassed the e brake safety, and wired the control for the camera to a switch. You could do something similar
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Hi,
I'm looking for a head unit that would actually be 1 DIN, including the screen (so no pop-up screen, no tablet-ish on a stick). I wish I had more space but I have to make do with this:
If the screen doesn't fill the whole slot (because that's a weird form factor), that's ok. I'm semi-tempted to buy a used Parrot Asteroid Classic but it's sooooo outdated that I'm think I'd prefer my tape player.
Alternatively, just a screen (which would be plugged to a Raspberry Pi or whatever) could be a step forward.
I'd be grateful for any piece of information.
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I've searched high and low and have never found any.
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Something like this i think may fit ..... See the exact dimensions.
Removing the air vents is an idea but I don't wand to hack the dashboard, the car is becoming something of a collectible.
I've checked all the Joying's website, the smaller they have is like 95mm in height, that's still much taller than 1 DIN (50 mm).
I just installed the Joying 95mm one in my BMW Z3 some days ago. It still needs some work, but should fit pretty well in the end without hacking the dashboard. I'll post some pictures tomorrow.
Xtreme2k said:
I just installed the Joying 95mm one in my BMW Z3 some days ago. It still needs some work, but should fit pretty well in the end without hacking the dashboard. I'll post some pictures tomorrow.
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Excellent, can't wait to see them!
I didn't hack it, its removable just like yours. If you consider it collectible I wouldn't change the deck then either way.
WhiteTitane said:
Removing the air vents is an idea but I don't wand to hack the dashboard, the car is becoming something of a collectible.
I've checked all the Joying's website, the smaller they have is like 95mm in height, that's still much taller than 1 DIN (50 mm).
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As promised, here's some pictures. As you can see, the unit has snap-in connectors to mount the panel on the base unit. On the panel, the position of the connectors can be changed to set it higher or lower:
Here I used the highest position possible. This way, it sits right below the vents but does not block them.
Currently there are two problems: There is too much distance from the dashboard and the sides are uncovered.
I already modified the original connectors to shorten the distance (initially it was like 5mm more), but that's the maximum possible with the modification. Additonally, in this position the connection cable will bump into the dashboard with shorter distance because it sits above the radio bay:
So I put the panel one step lower. This way it does cover the heating controls about 1-2 mm, but I think that's fine.
This way, the connection cable is just in front of the radio bay so it would be possible to shorten the distance between radio and panel:
I'm just constructing new mounting connectors with shorter distance. If this works out, I'll also construct 3d-printed side covers to have it perfect.
Many thanks for the pics! Not a fan of the look but maybe I can live with it...
Is that the 6.2"?
Yes, it's the 6.2" one. I've now finished the new mounts and put it a little lower because it looks better that way. The air vent controls are partly covered by the screen, but still useable without problems.
My first set of 3D-printed mounts melted when the car was in the sun, now I made a new set with a more temperature-stable material (ABS instead of PLA). Hope this one will work
@WhiteTitane did you find a solution (nice S54 by the way, clownshoe or roadster?)
I've the same desire for my roadster, did you find a solution that didn't crowd the dash quite as much as the 6.2"?
Hope you did the fan mod on the 1-din chassis ? Older cars tend to have heater air leaks that could cause this install to overheat. Probably best to have the fan blowing into the head unit, and exhausting via the front cable hole.