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hey, I just got ordered an 8125 today. It is still in the mail though. I was wondering, what should I upgrade on it once I get used to it? like I have no idea what to do. I have been reading on this site, but its hard to understand what ya'll are talking about, when idk WHAT is being talked about. heres some questions I have.
What is ROM, and what does it do if I put it on my phone. How do I get it on my phone.
Can I put WM6 on my phone? How do I do it?, as in how to install it on my phone.
thanks
Apparently you haven't done NEAR enough reading. If you have to ask questions like that, you don't have any business doing ANYTHING to your phone.
But -- right now -- all your questiona are irrelevant because all the ROMs will be gone from this site within a week. . . and I dare say it's because of "noobs" like you that try to flash their devices with UNofficial ROMs, then have problems or "brick" the phone (from not READING and FOLLOWING the instructions) and then run to the Carrier to cry about the phone not working or for a warranty exchange (which doesn't cover modified ROMs). And now, the Carriers and phone manufacturer have put enough pressure on Microsoft to stop the distribution of these modified ROMs because it's only after those "bricked" phones get back to the manufacturer that it's found the owner was not running an official ROM.
GEEZ!! Learn about features of the phone FIRST by reading the User's Manual and the tutorials on the Carrier's site. THEN, come over here and do some MORE reading. At that point, a good place to start would be the WiKi.
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I was wondering, what should I upgrade on it once I get used to it?
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Notice how I said ONCE I get used to it? I have been reading, but its kinda hard to understand when you dont even know what they are talking about. I dont mind paying for WM6, I just want to know where I can download it, and how I apply it on my phone.
Unless your Carrier makes it available to you as an OFFICIAL update, you won't be able to upgrade to WM6. If/when that happens, it will be on HTC's website with complete instructions.
I'm getting my Tytn in tomorrow and need to know if I should update my roms and all that stuff. I had a 8125 and I know about tweaking, but I don't see a lot for the 8525. All I'm gonna use the phone for is playing games, watchin movies, texting, talking, cam and video.
The very best thing you can do is read through the wiki pages, familiarise yourself with the basic things we do to the hermes on here.
Whatever you do dont jump in the deep end and be one of the many people who have bricked thier devices because they didnt do things correctly.
IF you spot a ROM you like the look of take a look at my Upgrading Guides on how to SAFELY upgrade the ROMs.
Thanks for that sir. I'm gonna read the wiki again cause it helped me big time with my 8125. I never did anything with my rom and radio and all that. Should I start now? What do I need to look for in a ROM if I'm using the phone for games and all that type of stuff?
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Thanks for that sir. I'm gonna read the wiki again cause it helped me big time with my 8125. I never did anything with my rom and radio and all that. Should I start now? What do I need to look for in a ROM if I'm using the phone for games and all that type of stuff?
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That's well nigh impossible to give a straight answer to without doing a LOT of typing and reading up. You'll have to read up on what the "cookers" say about their ROMs in the upgrading board.
Personally I would not rush to upgrade. Get to know your device it's flaws and basic fixes first. THEN you will know what to look for in any new ROM.
Mike
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That's well nigh impossible to give a straight answer to without doing a LOT of typing and reading up. You'll have to read up on what the "cookers" say about their ROMs in the upgrading board.
Personally I would not rush to upgrade. Get to know your device it's flaws and basic fixes first. THEN you will know what to look for in any new ROM.
Mike
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I'll have to do that. I honestly don't know what I'd be looking for anyway. As long as I can play games and watch movies, I'm straight.
Hey all, Just updated my sig to show my current setup. Got myself a used MDA for free. Lil fix me up. Couple scratches, no stylus and so but was a 1.08 version =D So after reading up the guides here. I got to unlocking the cid and mda itself fine. Did the upgrade after I did the secure stuff to try out that XDA Mobile 6 R3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324632
Im wondering which one is better tho... Kinda confused when it comes to that.. just know WM6 is the way to go and least I have the above installed and working. =D
So just learning all I can here. I saw something about Kitchen and I am guessing its like a custom build or so with things I want?
Anyways thought I would say hi and if someone knows a better WM6 I should go after. Ill look at it. Just so much to take in at once atm. Was used to playing with my Zodiac Palm. Heh.
All the chef's here are great, so the rom you want is truly dependant upon what you like. I run NTS's Jaguar 3.1...for me it is fast enough, really stable and comes with only a a small amount of stuff, so that I can customize it the way I like. Some roms have all the bells and whistles, some have pretty much OS only. As for a kitchen...before you attempt to cook your own rom, I would strongly urge you to READ READ READ all the tut's and stickies and wiki, learn as much as you can about your device first before doing any major customizing. Think of it like dating...you want to find out as much as you can about the other person, really get to know the other person and that person's quirks, before committing to a long-term relationship...or you can get sloppy drunk, jump in the sack and wake up the next morning going...what the hell did I just do!!! Your choice.
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BTW, Welcome to xda!!
Well here is my experiance. I mod and work with Symbian 60 phones as my primary. Write the guides on how to stream live TV or MP3 to the cell phone via winamp or real audio.
I have modded and flash/flexed Motorola phones, have experiance in unlocking Nokia and Motorola GSM phones. Not to mention tweaking.
So I am a sage when it comes to STUDY 1st. Its annoying.. but yea I do it.
(Oh yea, I also am with www.pspupdates.com so I mod PSPs too hehe)
So I studied enough here to least get my MDA sim/cid unlocked for modding. Thats safe. So far I went with that XDA Mobile 6 R3, I am not sure but it seemed stable enough to start with. I have not updated the IPL yet, but I prob will in a few, Rapid share sucks with its delay, no?
Well as for kitchen.. I figure its ALOT of data to take in at once. Abit too much... I understand its a make your own with what you want.. My issue isnt that.. my problem is.. WHAT do it I want??
I mean I have alot of experiance with my Zodiac II palm.. which is another for the homebrew community and tricks for working it... mean getting it to use my cell phone to connect was fun. (Still gotta with the PPC)
So my issue is trying to get to know the PPC OS. I played with it on my old bosses Ipaq 3135? (The T-Mobile PPC that failed)
But I did some interesting things with that too.
I know Ill 100% want VNC, Divx (Is there the web plugin for it yet to use stage6.com or so? What about Youtube REAL version?)
Not to mention easy to do emulators. =p
I just dont know fully what I want or what I SHOULD be after with this thing. I know I need to do some reg hacks to tweak.. but then im stummped.. if I am using custom mod versions... are these tweaks built in?? Would I mess something up? (You get my worries)
Another thing I noticed after I installed this version is VoIP... my wonder is.. I never used that before. I DO know I can flash my Linksys WRT54G with the DD-WRT voip firmware instead of the standard ddwrt build I am using now. Question is... is it worth it? If so, whats the deal? Use Skype?
As you can see alone from the questions above... Its just a scratch of questions and areas I am looking at and trying to get answers on... so yea.. kinda hard to know when to "stop" and say "IM HAPPY" with what I installed lol. Just need to know what I should go after... =/
sorry if this has been asked b4 .
i've had my hd2 for a month now and was just wondering if cooking or updating the rom is worth it .? my O.S is 5.2.21869 rom is 1.48.405.2(71294)wwe man 2.5.19211619.
what r the benifits of doin it ?
First off mate, cooking is what you do to make a custom ROM. As you said, you'd be updating it, but not cooking it.
Anyway, there are ROMs available now that have lots of fixes in that weren't included in 1.48 (the dreaded SMS issues and lock-screen not always locking, plus others.) Also, there are some ROMs available that also include Sense upgrades. For example, I've got the document tab and an eReader tab on mine. I don't use the document tab much (I've got a London underground pdf that I open with it, and that's all at the moment), but the eReader tab actually got me into eBooks.
Also, a lot of custom ROMs don't include some of the software that is on a stock ROM. For example, I use Dutty's Holy Grail v0.8, and it doesn't come with quite a few things (there's a list of stuff that's not included in the thread), and I ended up with about 70MB more device memory than with a stock ROM. As well as that, this particular ROM is simply faster and better than a stock ROM.
It's worth having a read through the ROM forum threads and seeing what's out there. You're bound to find something that you decide you want, and then you've just got the hassle of backing up contacts/texts/emails/photos/videos etc. (not that it's really a hassle when you use decent software to do it for you), and you've got to consider the fact that you're breaking your warranty too (but this can be undone, in case you ever need to send the phone off for repair/replacement).
Head on over to the ROM thread and read up on there. I bet you end up flashing a custom ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
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First off mate, cooking is what you do to make a custom ROM. As you said, you'd be updating it, but not cooking it.
Anyway, there are ROMs available now that have lots of fixes in that weren't included in 1.48 (the dreaded SMS issues and lock-screen not always locking, plus others.) Also, there are some ROMs available that also include Sense upgrades. For example, I've got the document tab and an eReader tab on mine. I don't use the document tab much (I've got a London underground pdf that I open with it, and that's all at the moment), but the eReader tab actually got me into eBooks.
Also, a lot of custom ROMs don't include some of the software that is on a stock ROM. For example, I use Dutty's Holy Grail v0.8, and it doesn't come with quite a few things (there's a list of stuff that's not included in the thread), and I ended up with about 70MB more device memory than with a stock ROM. As well as that, this particular ROM is simply faster and better than a stock ROM.
It's worth having a read through the ROM forum threads and seeing what's out there. You're bound to find something that you decide you want, and then you've just got the hassle of backing up contacts/texts/emails/photos/videos etc. (not that it's really a hassle when you use decent software to do it for you), and you've got to consider the fact that you're breaking your warranty too (but this can be undone, in case you ever need to send the phone off for repair/replacement).
Head on over to the ROM thread and read up on there. I bet you end up flashing a custom ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
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nice post mate but whether cooked roms are better or not is subjective...
faster... yes! in alot if not all cases... but better?
i for one havent found a custom rom to my liking just yet.... still using stock
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First off mate, cooking is what you do to make a custom ROM. As you said, you'd be updating it, but not cooking it.
Anyway, there are ROMs available now that have lots of fixes in that weren't included in 1.48 (the dreaded SMS issues and lock-screen not always locking, plus others.) Also, there are some ROMs available that also include Sense upgrades. For example, I've got the document tab and an eReader tab on mine. I don't use the document tab much (I've got a London underground pdf that I open with it, and that's all at the moment), but the eReader tab actually got me into eBooks.
Also, a lot of custom ROMs don't include some of the software that is on a stock ROM. For example, I use Dutty's Holy Grail v0.8, and it doesn't come with quite a few things (there's a list of stuff that's not included in the thread), and I ended up with about 70MB more device memory than with a stock ROM. As well as that, this particular ROM is simply faster and better than a stock ROM.
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It's worth having a read through the ROM forum threads and seeing what's out there. You're bound to find something that you decide you want, and then you've just got the hassle of backing up contacts/texts/emails/photos/videos etc. (not that it's really a hassle when you use decent software to do it for you), and you've got to consider the fact that you're breaking your warranty too (but this can be undone, in case you ever need to send the phone off for repair/replacement).
Head on over to the ROM thread and read up on there. I bet you end up flashing a custom ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
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thanks mate. I haven't got a clue with these windows phones . really new to them. thanks for ur help.
iainbp said:
thanks mate. I haven't got a clue with these windows phones . really new to them. thanks for ur help.
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That's alright mate. If you're new and haven't got a clue what you're doing, just ask away. Just make sure you've searched first as some people get a bit "YOU MUST SEARCH FIRST"-like with you Just make sure to say you've searched and couldn't find anything.
I started here about a year and a half ago and didn't know a ting about WM, but lots about Windows. This has been a great site for me.
Anyway, have fun
Audio, check the one in my Sig - very sleek and stock
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Audio, check the one in my Sig - very sleek and stock
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looks good but still not for me i am afraid...
it has to be exactly right for me to even think about flashing... closest ive found that comes close to my taste is Miri's 6.5.
Dont worry about me im just extremely picky with this device. For me its fast enough as it is and has enough storage for my needs with stock. Strange because in the past i was flashing my devices nearly every other week. I guess ive just grown out of flash fever
I think I just want something that will expand the memory think I need to learn bit more bout it , till I do it .
theres no rush, the hd2 has plenty of ram even without the extra unlocked. you won't notice much of a difference.
Hey guys,
Sorry for this "noob"ish post. I am new to the Fascinate after being with T-Mo for 2 years, which included a G1 (running CyanMod) and a Nexus One (which also ran CyanMod). I am just hoping one of you would mind giving me a quick 2 minute catch up on where things are now with the Fascinate, as there is way too much on these forums to realistically sift through. I have some basic questions...
1)I have noticed root is good and all that. I would assume rooting is all you need to get free wireless tethering? What program do you use to wireless tether once you are rooted?
2)I keep seeing something about "lagfix". What is that? My phone doesn't seem laggy, except for all the bloatware Verizon has put on it. So any info is appreciated.
3)I'm not crazy about the stock 2.1 ROM. Are there any good custom 2.2 ROMs yet? What is generally the best ROM for the Fascinate? On the Nexus, argue as much as you want, CyanMod was far and away the best ROM. But it seems like there is no CyanMod for Fascinates. So what are my best choices?
4)Is there anything else I should know moving to this phone?
I really appreciate anyone taking the time to answer these, as I know these types of threads are not the most popular thing on here. I want to get "in the know" with my new phone, but there is already so much on these forums, it's hard to tell what is still new and relevant and what is not. Thanks guys!
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Hey guys,
Sorry for this "noob"ish post. I am new to the Fascinate after being with T-Mo for 2 years, which included a G1 (running CyanMod) and a Nexus One (which also ran CyanMod). I am just hoping one of you would mind giving me a quick 2 minute catch up on where things are now with the Fascinate, as there is way too much on these forums to realistically sift through. I have some basic questions...
1)I have noticed root is good and all that. I would assume rooting is all you need to get free wireless tethering? What program do you use to wireless tether once you are rooted?
2)I keep seeing something about "lagfix". What is that? My phone doesn't seem laggy, except for all the bloatware Verizon has put on it. So any info is appreciated.
3)I'm not crazy about the stock 2.1 ROM. Are there any good custom 2.2 ROMs yet? What is generally the best ROM for the Fascinate? On the Nexus, argue as much as you want, CyanMod was far and away the best ROM. But it seems like there is no CyanMod for Fascinates. So what are my best choices?
4)Is there anything else I should know moving to this phone?
I really appreciate anyone taking the time to answer these, as I know these types of threads are not the most popular thing on here. I want to get "in the know" with my new phone, but there is already so much on these forums, it's hard to tell what is still new and relevant and what is not. Thanks guys!
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Also a G1 and N1 owner. Be happy to help.
1) Wireless tethering is accomplished by myself without issue via Wireless tether app on the market. It's under the radar so to speak, but required an ad hoc connection
2) The correct lagfix is the voodoo lag fix, with the informative posts being found on the first page of this forum. Basically, Samsung used an older file system in their build, and voodoo updates it to ext4, which is alot snappier on the r/w side of things. Without it, you will encounter a slowing of your processes after a period of uptime, and usually a small freeze while the phone does things like install applications. The flip is that voodoo instructions should be read very closely, and adhered to. Failure to do so will result in phone borkage, and while always fixable, takes some time and patience to do so.
If you are unfamiliar with Odin, as I was at first, make damn sure you always use the PDA option. Failure to do so can result in terminal frustration, and possibly a close to true brick of the device.
3) There are no 2.2 ROMs yet. The Froyo OTA should hit between now and Christmas hopefully. I would like to think we will see some custom 2.2 ROMs, and maybe a CM port by the 1st. In the meanwhile there are several ROMs on this board which seem to work for the people who use them. I'm a proponent of stripping and customizing stock to suit your needs, making your ROM your own. I haven't seen enough included hacks in the available ROMs to warrant a need for them personally. We have some excellent kernels available, and some pretty slick themes and mods, which works well for me.
4) The phone has the best processor/gpu out currently. The display is fantastic, and I don't see a better device on the market currently. It does have downsides, most notably the GPS, which isn't a huge issue for me, but which also has a fix on the way, presumably to be included in the 2.2 update. I also have experienced a shortage in the Wifi reception comparative to my N1, having approx. half the range I previously enjoyed. This seems to me to be software related, so I assume it will be addressable.
If you plan to root and mod, especially if you plan to use voodoo, which I highly recommend, be careful in your reading of instructions and applications of procedures outlined in them. As great as this phone is, mistakes are costly in terms of confusion and time to correct.
Thanks for the reply. Im always impatient, and as such, have already rooted before even waiting for a first response I used the one click method though and it worked great, exactly as advertised. Root Explorer works, so I definitely am good there, and I snagged the latest build of wireless tether from the developer's page.
Now I need to get started with actually switching out the ROM. I really want all the VZ bloatware gone and Bing needs to go as well. So now I guess I have some reading to do on installing ROMs for this phone. Process seems a little more complex for this phone that it was for my N1, but that may be just because it was so long ago and I don't remember. Thanks for the response though!
I am in a similar boat I use the Droid 1 and my fascinate is at the post office waiting for me per usps tracking
I think for now I will root remove bloatware and Bing and role with that till 2.2 maybe touchwiz aswell as I hear u can save ram that way and I paid for launcher pro so might aswell use it.
Yea, from what I've read, it sounds like putting a new ROM on is kind of pointless, since it won't be 2.2 anyway. So I think I just need some good instructions for this voodoo/lagfix stuff and some good instructions for removing all the vzn bloatware that comes installed. Once I do those two things, I think I'll be good. I am already running ADW, which I love, so I don't need any customization there, and wireless tether seems great. So I guess I just need to continue searching. There are lots of topics on the voodoo/lagfix thing on here, but I just want to make sure I find the most complete comprehensive set so I dont screw anything up
I'm somewhat of a new member, but have silently read through these forums for months... I used Dirks d02 sv1200kernal and the voodoo lag fix, I have been very happy with my phone since. I have been reading about the roms right now and don't see a point just yet. Freeze the bloatware from verizon and you will love your phone. Also have switched to LPPlus and think my phone operates so smooth!
I just received my fascinate friday, best buy sucked me in, lol, and I have no regrets. This phone is amazing, better than my d1 and d2. I too had a lot of the same questions about the lagfix and what not and would just like to say thanks, this thread def helped me understand. Can't wait until 2.2 roms
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Yea, from what I've read, it sounds like putting a new ROM on is kind of pointless, since it won't be 2.2 anyway. So I think I just need some good instructions for this voodoo/lagfix stuff and some good instructions for removing all the vzn bloatware that comes installed. Once I do those two things, I think I'll be good. I am already running ADW, which I love, so I don't need any customization there, and wireless tether seems great. So I guess I just need to continue searching. There are lots of topics on the voodoo/lagfix thing on here, but I just want to make sure I find the most complete comprehensive set so I dont screw anything up
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I posted on replacing the stock launcher with ADW or LP, as well as a couple lists of what is safe to remove. It's easy enough. I'm mobile our I would link the threads, but the replacement of bing its also covered in a post that includes some zips that will help.
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I'm somewhat of a new member, but have silently read through these forums for months... I used Dirks d02 sv1200kernal and the voodoo lag fix, I have been very happy with my phone since. I have been reading about the roms right now and don't see a point just yet. Freeze the bloatware from verizon and you will love your phone. Also have switched to LPPlus and think my phone operates so smooth!
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What is LPPlus? Is it worthwhile/simple to do?
To everyone else, I am glad I was not the only other one on the fence. XDA can be a bit scary sometimes, because you don't wanna ask something dumb/"noob"ish, but at the same time, if you haven't been there since the beginning, playing catch up can be hard. I will say everyone in the Fascinate threads has been nice and really helpful so far. I am slowly working through getting my phone the way I want it. Its just a shame that Verizon has to mess up the phone with all this garbage. I dont care much for the iPhone (design or software), but the one thing they do right, which comes at the cost of being "closed", is that they can dictate the user experience right out of the box. Unfortunately a lot of people are just too timid or incapable of doing the things we do to our phones to get them "right". Its a shame too, because people base their opinions on what Android the phone company gives you rather than what it can truly be. Regardless, I appreciate everyone's help and look forward to being a part of this community. I work IT at a school, so I know my way around a PC, but I wish I just knew more about Android coding and how phones work to be a true contributor to ROMs, etc. At least I know I helped a few people by speaking up and creating this thread. Thanks again everyone!!!
Edit: Im putting this in as an edit, but I just realized that LPPlus is probably Launcher Pro Plus. Have you used ADW? Is there a difference? What do you see as its advantages over ADW?
I personally (and i think most of us here would agree) don't have a problem with anyone asking "dumb" questions, if they haven't already been answered. the main issue is that most of the new posts are either "I didn't read the instructions and F*ed up my phone", "hey i heard this crazy rumor it must be true", "Can someone explain the same thing there are already 6 other topics about" and "how can we take X from this other phone and use it on mine". your questions are understandable and asking questions before you jump in saves a lot of headaches from having to fix something you tried without understanding it. and honestly, no need to be afraid to ask anything, worst case scenario someone like me *****es at you over the internet. who cares. =)