So, I'm not sure how many people are familiar with a hacked Motorola phone feature called "fun lights" (or club lights), in which the phone picks up music being played and flashes its lights to the beat, as seen here with a Motorola KRZR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS32vxWQC1U . Can this be done with our phones? I know the Tilt has a good number of lights to use. The indicator lights on the headset speaker and the soft key lights would be prime blinking lights. This feature would also be cool to do when someone calls you, and you're in the dark, your phone's buttons will start blinking and flashing.
So, developers and people who are smarter than I am, can this be done?
hehe loved that feature on moto phones. ahh... the good old motorola modding days when i moded my motorola v635 and the razr v3s someone should be able to do it.
Yeah, they're really cool. I'm not sure how useful it is, but it's certainly quite a novelty feature.
BUMP =D
i like lights...
Haha, everyone likes lights!
This may be similar to what you are talking about? Scroll to the bottom then scroll up 5 topics. Wouldn't be to the beat though.
Well, the notification LED is different than the softkey backlights. This will be cool to do when you receive a call as well as to music.
looks like i'm not the only one who remembers good ole' seem editing!
Either way, has anyone come up with a program that does something similar?
BUMP! This would be hella cool! The SE and Moto phones so why not the WM phones
I'm hoping once this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406820 gets more developed, we'll be able to assign entertaining videos. It could make things more interesting.
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Hi! On another forum I was told, that the Touch HD has the LED for signaling missed calls/sms/e-mail etc. built into the power button. Does somebody have any pictures or a video of this in action? Just curious how this looks. Thanks!
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I too would like to know this... and I also noticed that www.gsmarena.com says it has video out functionality???? But this feature is not listed on htc.com
Did anyone hear anything about this???
The guy of the frensh video on youtube was live on yahoo a few days after the release of the video.
While he was showing the device it looked to me that the on/off button was blinking or emitting light. At the time i didn't know what it was, but reading your msg i think this must be the LED signal.
So yes, it has a LED signal in the on/off button
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431850
check out this forum thread for the TV out stuff... at the moment it is unlikely that the phone will have this feature, like Raphael, because Raphael was the only one with the required USB connection... Videos show that no such port is on the Blackstone... still hoping though.
The DPad showing the status was a good thing as I got it in the cradle all the time. Having such function on the power button makes it harder to see, but cool nonetheless.
Wish they did it Blackberry style - placing a single very bright LED near the speaker hole on the front... Subtle yet rarely overlooked.
1 - Stylus camera. For those who does not like using the Dpad to take a shot and or for the upcoming touch HD using the stylus as camera button might work out.
2 - Stylus, light sensor, G-sensor together as a lock. I've seen keylocks with light sensor or the stylus. However, i'm sure many of us will agree the password lock on wm6 makes the device look like its from the 90s. Would it be possible to have all three combination of users own choice (some what like the G1's lock but with sensors instead of numbers or touch screen). Maybe its too fancy.
3 - Mute calls! Either in call or before picking up, would it be possible to make a trigger (flip phone 180 to left) to mute phone ring or hold call and flip the other way to undo. Or the other way around for left handed people. this way, you can flip to put the phone face down on table to mute or flip away from ear when driving to hold call.
4 - Finally, X1 is out!!!! Looks soo sexy. But seems soooo damn slow. But i can really care less about it. However, SE does have pretty damn good build in Apps and they have added them into the WM6 X1! Is there any chance if someone would want to use SE example camera's funtion/walkman function on a HTC device instead? In other words, is there any way to extract their build in apps to put them into other devices.
Sorry if bringing up so much. For all the pros here, there might be some stuff that sounds stupid but i wouldn't know cuz i have no clue on how to create my own ideas for testing. Would love to learn how to do so. Tips on how to start doing these shorts of things for a noob would be helpful!
O yea, one more thing, GAMES! needs to be improved for WM devices! as much as such smart phones were meant for business use, having more games wouldn't hurt. plus, g-sensor would help.
Hi,
Is their a way that the call answer|home|Back|Call End keys can be highlighted in the dark with say a white light?
That would be so cool when using the phone in the dark!
I guess it really depends if there's some kind of light behind the buttons?
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I guess it really depends if there's some kind of light behind the buttons?
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exactly!!..and there isn't
This is one of the couple of things that really does my nut in about the HD.
i wish it did. it would have been a SEXY touch to the HD
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This is one of the couple of things that really does my nut in about the HD.
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Yes it is so stupid that I think a ten year old child designed it. They are impossible to see in the dark and often I press the wrong one and are almost throwing the phone in the floor in anger
I suspose a skillful "Mod-er" could silkscreen some glow-in-the-dark paint on an adhesive layer (perhaps as simple as scotch tape) and adfix it to the front. Who knows might even be a market for this. I'd pay $4.95 US for it.
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"But not $5.00. $5.00 is too much"
A lot better without any additional lights, imho.
I like reading ebooks in the dark with the phone, and experices with other phones have shown that leds etc are annoying.
solution number one would be a sw controlled led system that could let you decide on/off, intensity, color, animation motive, strobosystem connected to audio output, blinking and blinking speed, for each key independently...
maybe i just exaggerated but what the hell since it's all impossible as the leds aint there i don't see why i shouldnt
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solution number one would be a sw controlled led system that could let you decide on/off, intensity, color, animation motive, strobosystem connected to audio output, blinking and blinking speed, for each key independently...
maybe i just exaggerated but what the hell since it's all impossible as the leds aint there i don't see why i shouldnt
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You could probably use available GPIO lines (if any are not used) to control the leds, but modding mobile devices without some kind of blueprints is next to impossible It's unlikely there's enough space inside the HD to house the leds and wiring required for such mod.
just hold your hand below your HD so the light of the screen reflects onto the buttons, simple enough imho
The buttons are overrated. I hardly ever use them. The only one I use is the very left buttin for Voice Command.
And I am able to find the button in complete darkness!!!!
I wish they would be gone in favor of a bigger screen.
HTC wanted to illuminate the hard buttons, but couldn't. The strategy behind the touch hd was to create the first device ever that will totally disallow its user to obtain any useful information whether a call has been missed while he was away from the phone. Moreover, part of the strategy was to *make sure* no matter how much the community will try to correct this situation, that they will stand no chance.
For this, HTC went with a tiny, faint, green led missed-call indicator at the side of the on/off button, and to make sure nobody will be able to program a solution, they had to let go the illuminated hard buttons (since otherwise the community could have programed it to behave like the Diamond, and so it would have been possible to know if you missed a call). It was a compromise for HTC, but the manager of the touch hd product recently was quoted saying that they feel satisfied with this compromise, because they feel that sacrificing hard button illumination was well worth it if the prize is to create the very first device that can be 100% inefficient at showing the missed calls you had while being away from the phone (and no less important: is 100% bulletproof against any attempt of the community to disable this cutting-edge feature).
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can be %100 inefficient at showing missed calls without the screen being active.
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99% only!! you forget the LED on the powerbutton?
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99% only!! you forget the LED on the powerbutton?
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Actually it's 99.99999999999999999999999% inefficient, but in this situation (where you'll have to miss several billion calls in order to notice one) I thought it was safe to round it up to 100%.
Surely the simple way forward here would be through the use of quantum technology.
We know that there are no lights behind the buttons, but that doesn't prevent the butons being illuminated, because in another parallel universe some HTC designer might have accidently designed a useful and practical version of the HD (of course, this is where my idea falls down, as it's impossible for any HTC designer to be so forward-thinking).
Anyway, as I'm sure we all know, you don't actually need an object to exist to have an effect in quantum physics - it only needs to exist in theory to effect the time/space continuum.
So if we could co-ordinate a mass simultaneous experiment, where we all throw our HDs up into the air, and let them all hit the ground at EXACTLY the same time, we should find that we will have easily removed the problem of non-illuminating buttons for all those partaking of this exercise.
A small side effect of this is that we will also remove the issue of poor video playback, poor call handling, crap Today screen ..........
"Anyway, as I'm sure we all know, you don't actually need an object to exist to have an effect in quantum physics - it only needs to exist in theory to effect the time/space continuum."
Boy this is scary, if your theory is right, we could all be subjects of an quantum physics experiment. What if the HD in fact doesn't exist att all!? have you concidered that? If your theory is right, it could just be a flicker in the time/space continuum. :O what the hell, as long as it's persistant I don't care.
To the more real issues. Honestly, do you guys really don't know where the answer, home, back and hangup-buttons are located?? I had not even thought of the fact that they aren't backlit. Most time I don't use them at all, but I'm pretty sure most user here in fact can point them out in pitch dark if they had to. But I must admit the lack of light underneath them is a little bit odd from a design point of view though.
For the missed call isue, isn't there a way to make the screen backlight flash with very short quite frequent flashes to indicate missed calls? For those who check the phone for missed calls every other minute this could be a good med against hart attack (or atleast blue fingertip from pressing the power-button a million times).
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A small side effect of this is that we will also remove the issue of poor video playback, poor call handling, crap Today screen ..........
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I really like those side effects, only problem is that we'll also lose warranty, so if in the distant future something bad will happen to our beloved touch hd, we will not have coverage...
To the more real issues. Honestly, do you guys really don't know where the answer, home, back and hangup-buttons are located?? I had not even thought of the fact that they aren't backlit. Most time I don't use them at all, but I'm pretty sure most user here in fact can point them out in pitch dark if they had to.
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Impossible !!!, you make it sound as easy as typing on a computer keyboard without looking at the keys... why do you lie to us my dear friend when we all know remembering the location of the 4 keys in the touch hd is orders of magnitude harder ?
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Impossible !!!, you make it sound as easy as typing on a computer keyboard without looking at the keys... why do you lie to us my dear friend when we all know remembering the location of the 4 keys in the touch hd is orders of magnitude harder ?
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Well... you have a point... but in the other hand your statement is pretty contradictory in itself. My computer (a macbook, I'll probably get my ass kicked for saying that) has no backlit keyboard and has something like 80 keys so it sounds pretty weard that it would be easer to learn the location of all of them. or have you written a program that alters the location of the 4 HD-keys so you honestly can say that it's impossible to learn?
Hello all. I am making an application request that may (or may not!) be possible. Ideas would be useful...
Basically, the idea is for a vibration feedback for screen taps. Obviously this is already available, however, it would be good if the vibration feedback could be localised to a particular space at which the screen is actually pressed... I.e if you press the top right corner of the screen, your finger/hand would feel as though it was actually pressing roughly that area. I have no idea if someone has already done this.
I actually think this is possible on the HTC HD because I note on the game Teeter, when you crash into a wall, say on the left of the screen, the vibration seems to be coming from the left of the phone. This probably means that there are at least 4 vibrators (if thats what they are called!), in the device... and further, it is possible to programmatically access them. If we knew how to do that, it should be possible to do some X/Y combination, especially to make a more precise vibration feedback for our HTC HD.
Ideas and thoughts would be useful.
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Hello all. I am making an application request that may (or may not!) be possible. Ideas would be useful...
Basically, the idea is for a vibration feedback for screen taps. Obviously this is already available, however, it would be good if the vibration feedback could be localised to a particular space at which the screen is actually pressed... I.e if you press the top right corner of the screen, your finger/hand would feel as though it was actually pressing roughly that area. I have no idea if someone has already done this.
I actually think this is possible on the HTC HD because I note on the game Teeter, when you crash into a wall, say on the left of the screen, the vibration seems to be coming from the left of the phone. This probably means that there are at least 4 vibrators (if thats what they are called!), in the device... and further, it is possible to programmatically access them. If we knew how to do that, it should be possible to do some X/Y combination, especially to make a more precise vibration feedback for our HTC HD.
Ideas and thoughts would be useful.
I would solve this by having differenznt patterns
Wow, I'd never noticed that before.
Are you sure this works in each corner? My pudding pullin' numbed fingers can only feel top and bottom vibrations in Teeter. Are you sure it's in the corners?
Either way, sounds like an interesting concept.
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Check the disassembly in the service manual: http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC_Blackstone_Service_Manual.pdf
At page 24, you see they take out the vibrator.
There is only one in the Touch HD, so the requested application in the OP is not possible.
There may well be one, but Teeter certainly feels "stereo".
There is a distinct left and right separation.
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There may well be one, but Teeter certainly feels "stereo".
There is a distinct left and right separation.
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Yes, that's true. But they probably just reverse the direction the wheel turns to make it feel different.
I don't think you will ever be able to localize the sense of the vibration to the part of the screen where you touch it.
@Fire69 good point. Just what I do with the wife.
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With the wife, you could use multiple vibrators!
Guys, you may be right. I am really very dissapointed with this finding. The teeter game totally feels as though it has multiple vibrators. I doubt spinning them the opposite direction changes the feel. It probably a psychological effect which relates to how we are holding our HTC at the time of vibration (!).
Really upsetting.
Also, is there a software that vibrates on pressure on any point on the screen with any app? There is an option to do screen tap sounds, but not vibrate. Help would be sweet.
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With the wife, you could use multiple vibrators!
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We are still talking about phones in here, are we not?
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We are still talking about phones in here, are we not?
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lol. hopefully!
egzthunder1 said:
We are still talking about phones in here, are we not?
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Ofcourse! What else would we be talking about?
BTW, you have a spelling-error in your sig (Rapahel => Raphael)
I think the impression of "stereo" tactile feedback in teeter is coming from your brain, correlating tactile and visual input. You see the ball crashing into the right wall, feel the vibration and your brain makes "vibration coming from the right side" out of that. Knowing that you are tilting your phone to the right adds to that and is the reason why you also have the same impression when not looking at the screen (just tried it ). I don't see any possibility of localizing a vibrational feedback with just one vibrator. Multiple vibrators - different story, but I still doubt that could work, as you would a) need _lots_ of vibrators to generate a sufficiently precise interference pattern, b) need immense computing power to calculate the frequency/amplitude/phase of each vibrator to achieve that pattern and c) must be able to precisely drive all those vibrators with those frequency/amplitudes/phases. While I'm thinking about it, you could also just have a matrix of, say, 16x16 vibrators with absorbing layers in between. Hmmm...might be an interesting project to build something like that...
Indeed... I am sure I could have done something to stimulate precise tactility with 2 vibrators only. By controlling the duration of vibration for the X and the Y axis.
Hopefully HTC will include 2 vibrators with their devices in the future.
Hi!
I'm considering buying the phone, but I'm being put off by some things, among them inconveniently placed notification LED. Afaik it is in the power button, which quite sucks. So I'd like to ask what some handy alternatives there are? Probably something that would turn on the screen and it would stay on for some time?
Thanks
No one? How exactly do YOU solve this problem?
Got soldering skills? Buy micro led, solder it in front of speaker mesh, enjoy.
retsam88, it is better to be quiet if you don't have a reasonable answer.
The majority of us just don't consider this to be a problem.
OK, thanks, maybe I could also live with it.
I found two applications in case I could not:
Status LED:
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...http-i8000-modaco-com/301392/status-led-v0-4/
ReRemind:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498161
Now the only thing remains to buy a Touch HD for a good price
Frankly, i never noticed if HTC Touch HD's led is blinking or not when you have missed calls/sms and have been using it for 2 years now. Only noticed it blinking when battery is drained. But you can use S2U2, which is a free lockscreen application and has the options of reminding you about missed calls/sms/emails by playing sounds at certain intervals.
Eh... is there an application which could be used to tweak the LED? Thanks
yes i have on top let blink for mesage mised call etc