Hi!
Since PIE does not support java on java sites is there any plugin availabe currently short of using another browser?
Thanks
FOSA said:
Hi!
Since PIE does not support java on java sites is there any plugin availabe currently short of using another browser?
Thanks
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Yup,
Check the Macromedia site for the Flash plugin. Is also available on this site. Good luck.
what about a java plugin for the PIE so i can use hushmail.?
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Java/JeodeForPocketPC.exe
It's a Java JVM for Pocket Internet Explorer.
sweet ill let people know if it works with hushmail
plugin fails to load.. i have no clue whats wrong with it.
Just installed it on my Qtek 9000... works fine with Buzztime (www.buzztime.com) in Internet Explorer Mobile.
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Hi BeyondtheTech,
I can access buzztime too
Whats there in buzztime that separates the difference between having java and no java installed?
Any other java-enabled sites that can be tested out which cannot be tested by no java installed?
Thanks
The Buzztime games are Java-enabled internet-multiplayer games. I don't know about other Java sites, though.
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Hi BeyondtheTech,
Few questions on Jeode for PPC
1) Does it supports WM5?
2) After installing, can internet banking sites be accessed from the PPC? I was informed that because Jeode for PPC does not have security features, hence, banking sites cannot be accessed ie. login in
3) If no, is there any way that internat banking sites can be accessed from the PPC?
Thanks
i can get in desertschools.org and bofa.com
i can access HSBC Banking from my PPC anyway - althought i dont think thats JAVA.
I do have problems playing games that are made with Visual Basic though - gonna look for a plugin/install now
p.s Using a O2 Exec WM5
is it possible to use either opera mini/mobile or both using just wifi. i have searched the web and xda and found nothing that involves this topic.
connect to a wifi router and launch the browser, bingo!
Unfortunately that doesn't work. There is issues with Opera Mini and wifi. Or maybe the issue is connecting Jbed with the wifi connection ...
Does anyone know the resolution?
-K
Try different java engines. Last time I ran Opera Mini, I believe I was on Schap's rom. I don't have a data plan so all I had was wifi. I actually like Opera Mini more than Opera Mobile. Mini had a more intelligent zoom while Opera Mobile will show the entire page, then you need to open a context menu to select the zoom in functionality.
It would be nice to have a browser that will zoom with gestures.
I run Esmertec Jbed with Opera Mini (latest version, don't remember which one exactly) just fine exclusively over WiFi. Didn't really have to do anything special to get it working. The only added thing was to run a Mortscript for creating shortcut that starts Opera automatically.
I would like to know if opera mini is compatible with my verizon xv6800. According to the opera mini web site it is not. If it is compatible, do I need to install something else for it to work?
Yes, its compatable. Download the high memory version of Opera Mini 4 and you should be good to go. Good luck.
Verizon doesn't ship Java with the XV6800, so Opera Mini won't run natively. You have to either install a Java client (search the links here for a recommendation) or install a new ROM that includes a Java client (the DCD kitchen includes Java as an option). Once you install Java and Opera Mini, you'll actually run Opera Mini from within Java. Opera won't appear in your programs list.
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Verizon doesn't ship Java with the XV6800, so Opera Mini won't run natively. You have to either install a Java client (search the links here for a recommendation) or install a new ROM that includes a Java client (the DCD kitchen includes Java as an option). Once you install Java and Opera Mini, you'll actually run Opera Mini from within Java. Opera won't appear in your programs list.
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Or you could always switch to Sprint. And get free mobile Broadband on your laptop.
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Or you could always switch to Sprint. And get free mobile Broadband on your laptop.
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To answer the question, yes opera mini is compatible after installing a java manager. I use mini 4 and 4.1 on my 6800. Works 1000 times better than the pocket ie for 99% of browsing.
I can confirm as well. I used emerstec jbed and opera mini 4.1 beta and I love it. Pages load in a few seconds, even ones with a lot of graphics (xda-forums main page with all the phone pics). I also have opera 9 mobile beta and rarely use it anymore since opera mini is several times faster at loading pages. I haven't had many rendering issues when loading pages either. There is a good thread in the development and hacking sub forum with all the files you need.
Anyone figured out how to load the new Opera Mini 4.1 with the touch of the IE button? Or how to get it to work as the default browser?
I have an HD2 (TMO USA) ordered, should come in a day or two.
Does the HD2 come with a JVM for running Java midlet (J2ME) applets?
If so, what kind is it? Any good, or better to use one of the hacked Jbeds that are available on this site?
What would I use with it? Probably mainly the Gmail java applet? Although one can access Gmail through a browser, or via Imap and the WM mail application, I have always found the Gmail java applet to be a handy way to access mail.
I used to use Opera Mini through java, not sure how useful that is now. For one thing, there is a WM version of Opera Mini 5, not needing java. Also, Opera Mobile is now very similar to Opera Mini, a version comes with the HD2, and one can download a newer version, and it is free. (Or--do any readers still find it useful to use java opera mini, on a wm phone?)
In any case, does a jvm come with the HD2? Any good? If people prefer using a different jvm (than what comes with it), which do you recommend?
The HD2 does indeed ship with a Java Virtual Machine...but in my opinion it is not a very good one. It's an official Sun Microsystems JVM, and I personally have always hated the ones made by Sun. I use an older Esmertec JBED one that I found here in the Wizard forums from back in 2006, and it works pretty well.
Again, in my opinion, Opera Mini is kinda useless seeing as Opera 9 works soooo well on the HD2. The speed between the two is about the same to me over 3G, though over EDGE Opera Mini is a bit faster because of it's server side rendering.
The only problem with the older JVM's that you find, is that they are made for devices with much smaller resolutions than the HD2, so the text and buttons are miniscule. So thats another thing to keep in mind.
Overall, I would just stick with the included Opera 9, and don't upgrade to 10 if you wan't to keep pinch to zoom as it is not supported as of yet, and if you REALLY need to use the JVM version of Gmail, just use the included JVM. I hope that helps!
Thanks, Ashasaur.
One nice thing about some of the Jbeds--the ability to create a shortcut in WM that will open up the applet directly (such as Gmail), without having to open up the java app first.
Also, with some of the jbeds, it is possible to hack it, so one doesn't get those damn permission questions about whether it is allowed to access the internet, etc.
Can the built-in JVM do those things?
As far as I can tell, no and no. I cannot make the built in JVM create out of program shortcuts, but there is a freeware application on the WM Marketplace to do just that that I use everyday. And no, I cannot make the permission messages go away either.
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As far as I can tell, no and no. I cannot make the built in JVM create out of program shortcuts, but there is a freeware application on the WM Marketplace to do just that that I use everyday. And no, I cannot make the permission messages go away either.
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You mean a freeware app especially to go with that Sun JVM, and create shortcuts for its apps? What is it called?
No no, its a freeware app to work with ANY Java VM, including the built in Sun one. Its on the WM Marketplace, and its called JavaShortcut. Just like that, no space.
me, just FYI I've never been able to get any of the g-mail applets to work on the built-in JVM, so you'll at least need to try an alternative one, although I suspect that even that might not get it working on this phone.
Upgraded to HD2 from TP2 four days ago, really impressed with the speed, and do miss the hardware keyboard!
My 2 cents: it's easy to set up gmail with the built-in email client but I do lose the ability to search emails (somebody enlighten me!). I have tried using the java gmail app with built-in Sun jvm but no luck, gmail app won't even open.
As for browser, Opera mini is still my favorite. For 1 I have been using it for so long and really enjoyed the speed (and knows how to avoid all the pitfalls!). For 2 I don't have to clean cache as no cache files are stored on my phone!
But when it comes to anything requires a password, I switch to opera mobile. The auto-rotating is kinda annoying when browsing in bed
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The HD2 does indeed ship with a Java Virtual Machine...but in my opinion it is not a very good one. It's an official Sun Microsystems JVM, and I personally have always hated the ones made by Sun. I use an older Esmertec JBED one that I found here in the Wizard forums from back in 2006, and it works pretty well.
Again, in my opinion, Opera Mini is kinda useless seeing as Opera 9 works soooo well on the HD2. The speed between the two is about the same to me over 3G, though over EDGE Opera Mini is a bit faster because of it's server side rendering.
The only problem with the older JVM's that you find, is that they are made for devices with much smaller resolutions than the HD2, so the text and buttons are miniscule. So thats another thing to keep in mind.
Overall, I would just stick with the included Opera 9, and don't upgrade to 10 if you wan't to keep pinch to zoom as it is not supported as of yet, and if you REALLY need to use the JVM version of Gmail, just use the included JVM. I hope that helps!
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As I wrote, there is now a direct WM version of Opera Mini 5, so a jvm is not necessary for that. And it is different from Opera Mobile. It starts up much faster, for instance. The other option is the new Opera Mobile, v 10. Three different Operas one can use.)
By the way, pinch to zoom can be added to practically any app, with tweak apps such as BSBTweaks. I don't really find pinch to zoom to be such a great feature though. Easier to use the zoom scroll bar.
Regarding using the Gmail midlet with the included JVM--there is a problem with that! (See other thread.)
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As far as I can tell, no and no. I cannot make the built in JVM create out of program shortcuts, but there is a freeware application on the WM Marketplace to do just that that I use everyday. And no, I cannot make the permission messages go away either.
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You're wrong on the permission messages. Highlight an applet in the jvm, choose permission settings, and you can choose for it only to ask permission the first time, never again.
One other nice thing about the Sun JVM included on the HD2--you can choose to install the midlet apps in either main memory or storage card.
The ability to go directly to the midlet app, without having to go through the jvm interface first, is important, a nice feature that one can tweak with many of the esmertec jbeds. If one can do that with this Sun JVM, using that freeware app you speak of, then this Sun JVM is looking pretty good,
Except--that so far I can't get the Gmail midlet to work with it at all!
Well, I would still like to know what JVMs people have found to work well with the HD2. Once again, I have the T-Mobile USA model, with the stock ROM (not the newest one, but the older one that came on it). (I haven't had time to flash to the new one and reinstall and reconfigure everything yet..)
I cannot get the built-in Sun JVM to work with anything involving the Internet. (By the way, has that been improved with the newer stock ROM?)
I use one of the Esmertec JBeds from here (XDA developers) for the Gmail app. It works, but not all the time. It doe not work for composing messages, as the text ends up too small and unreadable.
So, I usually use the built-in mail client. However, I like that Gmail app better, if I could find a good JVM for it to work on. (Sure wish they had a WM client!)
Opera Mini does have a WM cient now, for OM 5.1. I use that, works good. However, now there are two new Opera Minis--6.1, and 4.3. I would like to try them. Neither come with a WM client though, so one has to use java. The question again then-which JVM to use?
Also, with Skyfire no longer running on Windows Mobile, one of the only mobile browsers that can play flash video is the Bolt Browser. That also is a Java-only browser requiring a JVM.
What JVMs have folks found to run good on the HD2? (And please tell me if the built-in one has been improved in the newest TMO stock ROM?)
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Well, I would still like to know what JVMs people have found to work well with the HD2. Once again, I have the T-Mobile USA model, with the stock ROM (not the newest one, but the older one that came on it). (I haven't had time to flash to the new one and reinstall and reconfigure everything yet..)
I cannot get the built-in Sun JVM to work with anything involving the Internet. (By the way, has that been improved with the newer stock ROM?)
I use one of the Esmertec JBeds from here (XDA developers) for the Gmail app. It works, but not all the time. It doe not work for composing messages, as the text ends up too small and unreadable.
So, I usually use the built-in mail client. However, I like that Gmail app better, if I could find a good JVM for it to work on. (Sure wish they had a WM client!)
Opera Mini does have a WM cient now, for OM 5.1. I use that, works good. However, now there are two new Opera Minis--6.1, and 4.3. I would like to try them. Neither come with a WM client though, so one has to use java. The question again then-which JVM to use?
Also, with Skyfire no longer running on Windows Mobile, one of the only mobile browsers that can play flash video is the Bolt Browser. That also is a Java-only browser requiring a JVM.
What JVMs have folks found to run good on the HD2? (And please tell me if the built-in one has been improved in the newest TMO stock ROM?)
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