for those too scared to flash to 6.1 (or have other reasons not to), here is a very intriguing method of getting the palm threaded sms to work quite well, not covering up the input area.
good luck.
link: http://67.228.199.237/forum.ppcgeeks/showthread.php?t=17410&highlight=move+keyboard
Yesssssssssssssss!!!!
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET>> WORKS just installed cab and it works.. sick..
used it all day no issues so far
good to hear. i guess im gonna post this in some other all-touch screen device forums.
Works for me. It adds about a 20px bar to the top of wach keyboard but it works as advertised.
can some one please post cab file here
thank you
sf103100 said:
can some one please post cab file here
thank you
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+1 for that.. ppcgeeks is a little down at the moment...
updated first post with new and working link.
here is the actual action you need to perform:
"biggggant
heres the reg edit i did
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\Now
go to DragStyle and change (0) to (1)"
reported to work with touchpal as well...
skylinegts said:
+1 for that.. ppcgeeks is a little down at the moment...
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and ppcgeeks has been up again for a while. just make sure to...get there right? idk. its working strange. once you get to the site, just make sure to click on the "forum" link at the top, or the "ppcgeeks" link at the left, and you should be redirected to the new/working site
Man thanks! was going to get rid of this thing, but now im loving it more by the day....
Threaded sms is nice, but if you don't get notified of them what's the point??
The palm threaded sms app ( i used codyppc's) is ok, but the notifications on my vogue at least, are so buggy that it's not practical. Using HTC theme, with HTC Home (sms counter) and half of the time it doesn't increment. S2U2 also doesnt' recognize new SMS when this threaded app is installed.
chetlet said:
Threaded sms is nice, but if you don't get notified of them what's the point??
The palm threaded sms app ( i used codyppc's) is ok, but the notifications on my vogue at least, are so buggy that it's not practical. Using HTC theme, with HTC Home (sms counter) and half of the time it doesn't increment. S2U2 also doesnt' recognize new SMS when this threaded app is installed.
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what apps do you have installed? what rom are you running?
the sms counter can mess up sometimes, but it has been my experience to work about 90% of the time.
Just have the stock ROM that came with the Sprint Touch.
my notifications start out working, then quit, then sometimes come back. I can't figure out any rhyme or reason - new message or new conversation don't seem to matter - i have done a hard reset and only installed the palm threaded sms app - doesnt' matter. I love it when it works, but...
Apps include:
- MS Live Search
- AC S2U2 .99
- Arcsoft MMS (still have hope)
- the MusicID app
- MemMaid
- Google Maps
- YouTube fix
- Full Screen Keyboard
- Sprite backup
- teh duttythroy Vista battery bar
- Opera 8.65
I use treo alert. And it works fine, for the sms issue. u can set it up like you want it....
does treo alert allow you to configure the sms counter in the HTC Home today screen plugin? I assume it probably doesn't but hoping it does. i'm looking at this, http://discussion.treocentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15006&d=1180917118, and it's hard to tell.
I dont think it do's. are you running the palm threaded sms hack>?
yes, running codyppcs threaded sms app - the one with the SMS softkey if that matters. love it when it notifies, but can't figure out why sometimes it doesn't. i have tried combinations of closing out of the app, having a totally different app open, putting the touch to sleep/hibernate, but it's never consistent.
I am having issues with the dragstlye sip hack. It seems to cutoff off the bottom row of keys and the majority of the second row with the standard sip keyboard. It also cuts off some of each of my other entry methods. has anyone figured out a fix for this?
I am having issues with the dragstyle sip hack. It seems to cutoff off the bottom row of keys and the majority of the second row with the standard sip keyboard. It also cuts off some of each of my other entry methods. has anyone figured out a fix for this?
I am using an htc vouge phone.
chetlet said:
Just have the stock ROM that came with the Sprint Touch.
my notifications start out working, then quit, then sometimes come back. I can't figure out any rhyme or reason - new message or new conversation don't seem to matter - i have done a hard reset and only installed the palm threaded sms app - doesnt' matter. I love it when it works, but...
Apps include:
- MS Live Search
- AC S2U2 .99
- Arcsoft MMS (still have hope)
- the MusicID app
- MemMaid
- Google Maps
- YouTube fix
- Full Screen Keyboard
- Sprite backup
- teh duttythroy Vista battery bar
- Opera 8.65
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hmm...i honestly cant say that i have any idea what is causing that problem. with the stock app nstalled, do all of the notifications work just fine?
Related
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333619&highlight=disable+sms+alert
i tried it out works well
esp with on screen keyboard as text input is on the top not the bottom of the screen...
i had palm sms threader on here before so i have to hard reset the device to get it working properly
but it shows promise
boinger66 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333619&highlight=disable+sms+alert
i tried it out works well
esp with on screen keyboard as text input is on the top not the bottom of the screen...
i had palm sms threader on here before so i have to hard reset the device to get it working properly
but it shows promise
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Once you upgrade towm 6.1, you would not need this anymore, I think.
eaglesteve said:
Once you upgrade towm 6.1, you would not need this anymore, I think.
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Just seen this thread as I'm downloading WM6.1 - I'm far to impatient to wait for PK4.0.
eaglesteve - you said just what I thought when I saw boingers post but just had a look at the app and it looks like a lot more than just threaded SMS.
I'll have to see what WM6.1 gives me but I might try this as well.
And I like the price
I can anyone here extract the THREAD SMS system of the WM6.1 to work on the WM6 ?
Thanks, that would be great......
Thanks again.
good question, cuz i def could use this
TheDude1120 said:
good question, cuz i def could use this
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completely agree, think a lot of people would
I believe this has been discussed and it is too integrated into the ROM to be extracted.
use vito's threaded sms software
Hi,
i use VITO's SMS-Chat since 2 Days :
it works like the threaded SMS from PocketCM.
Beautiful and easy.
One Issue : With Resco Kayboard, the SIP is moving
away if i could try to make text...
try this:
http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=139379
bachikho said:
try this:
http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=139379
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This is palm threaded sms. I tried vitos today but I don't like the design
6.1 SMS on 6.0 would be nice.
I suggest using the PALM threaded SMS app..
http://rapidshare.com/files/89233954/shogunmark_wm6_threaded.cab
Also... if you want Pie from WM6.1 here is that also..
http://rapidshare.com/files/88878453/XDA_WM_6.1_P.I.E_For_WM6.rar
cre8or said:
I can anyone here extract the THREAD SMS system of the WM6.1 to work on the WM6 ?
Thanks, that would be great......
Thanks again.
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I have to ask the obvious, Why not just upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1? It is much more stable, for me at least, than 6.0.
No offense intended. To each his/her own.
Kasush said:
I have to ask the obvious, Why not just upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1? It is much more stable, for me at least, than 6.0.
No offense intended. To each his/her own.
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Because some of us can't upgrade to 6.1 there is no 6.1 for my phone at the moment, for example.
I have a TOUCH CRUISE
- VITO SMS, doesnt work with the Touch Keyboard, the keyboard only rights numbers.
- When using the PALM THREAD SMS keyboard, the keyboard stays over the text of the message, wich is really bad to use
- There is no 6.1 for the TOUCH CRUISE right ?
Any other ideas
cre8or said:
- When using the PALM THREAD SMS keyboard, the keyboard stays over the text of the message, wich is really bad to use
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This is my biggest gripe with Palm Threaded SMS...
Is no one willing to do this?
VITO SMS-Chat vs Threaded SMS WM 6.1
Hi
Now that Vito has a promotion to celebrate their 7th year anniversary (SMS Chat at US$7 only), I was tempted to get it. But since WM 6.1 is coming soon... I was also wondering whether it's worth the money.
Has anyone tried both and can he/she shared the differences/similarities? What's the benefit (if any) of getting SMS-Chat?
Kasush said:
I have to ask the obvious, Why not just upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1? It is much more stable, for me at least, than 6.0.
No offense intended. To each his/her own.
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DOH
How to fix the wm6.1 5.2.19199 bugs?
I find the version 19199 have some bugs,
Bluetooth bug
Wmp full screen bug
Sounds & notifications bug
Phone settings bug
Storage card encryption check button bug
Send... and Beam... command in file explorer bug
Java problems
Disapear E-mail accounts device pin-password wifi settings etc...
No offense intended of course.........
Sian said:
Hi
Now that Vito has a promotion to celebrate their 7th year anniversary (SMS Chat at US$7 only), I was tempted to get it. But since WM 6.1 is coming soon... I was also wondering whether it's worth the money.
Has anyone tried both and can he/she shared the differences/similarities? What's the benefit (if any) of getting SMS-Chat?
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I haven't tried other options except the Dutty 6.1 release and after experiencing the problems I had I had to revert to OEM. I installed SMS-Chat and for $7 I think its great. I am still on trial but plan to purchase. So far it has worked without issues for me. Threaded SMS nice layout. I suggest trying it before buying and make a judgement for yourself.
Hi
Thanks for the feedback. Personally, I would like to have it integrated into the default SMS application, so that it won't take up extra ROM and RAM.
But like you said, maybe I will give it a try. Before that, can you tell me whether SMS Chat is an application that needs to be launched all the time in order to access it or will it operate in the background, taking over the default Inbox, until you deactivate it?
Sian said:
Hi
Thanks for the feedback. Personally, I would like to have it integrated into the default SMS application, so that it won't take up extra ROM and RAM.
But like you said, maybe I will give it a try. Before that, can you tell me whether SMS Chat is an application that needs to be launched all the time in order to access it or will it operate in the background, taking over the default Inbox, until you deactivate it?
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It works in the background. I did a soft reset of my device to test it without previously launching the application and I had my wife send me a text and it automatically came through sms-chat. I like this apart from other modifications because I don't have to mess with the registry. I have full control by uninstalling it if I ever don't want the application. If you do try it let us know your thoughts.
I'm not sure whether I want to pay for something which will be made available to us free of charge eventually when WM 6.1 is out. That's why I am still contemplating about it.
was reading an article over at coolsmartphone.com - http://coolsmartphone.com/news4008.html
The U.I looks really cool and was wondering if there was a way to get it for the Touch Dual? Cheers!
I believe that's a question for the Development board, not this one. I think I've seen something about that there ..
looks nice, shame it still links to the CRAPPY looking windows mobile apps, i wish someone would completely revamp the entire shell of windows mobile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386133
Thanks!
Yeah! I also really long for something that would replace the ugly-ass WM apps, such as SMS/Email, Calendar, etc.. So if anyone find anything, please let me know
I had this working on my mine, but shifted to UL which is pretty awesome
same here ultimate launcher is brilliant. ive installed vito sms-chat and vito fun contacts too so its rare i see the hideous wm shell now
mccannmarc said:
same here ultimate launcher is brilliant. ive installed vito sms-chat and vito fun contacts too so its rare i see the hideous wm shell now
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vito sms chat, how is it for you? I liked it but it created a new SMSfolder which I didnt like and SMS notifications wouldnt work anymore. On vito Quick contact, can you still pop out the software touch keypad? I mean I know we have the hardware slide out keypad but sometimes I like just using the touch screen.
sms-chat is fantastic. although you dont recieve the normal text alerts you should still hear your sms tone and a little semi-transparent window pops up in the centre of the screen with the sms info. In my opinion it is a lot better than the normal wm sms and even better still than the threaded sms in wm6.1.
Fun contacts works in such a way that you dont need to use the keyboard unless you are editing contact info and ive just confirmed for you that you can use the software keyboard as well as the hardware keyboard for this.
hope this clears things up for you
Will try to give vito SMS chat another trial. Thanks!
Try lord smiff threaded sms. I love it.
hey there,
since using sense as Homescreen i was alway mad about these "modern" messaging clients (the odd manila texting that doesnt even count charakters & the slow HTC messaging client as u have on the LEO)
for now ma rom (valkyrie 5.4) has the ability to use the classic texting (via start -> text) and the "modern" manila texting via sense-> textTab -> click on message)
Even by tabbing "all messages" i end up in the classic wm-message listing.. (and thats nearly what i want)...
Is there kinda fix, that tabbing on a message would bring me to the classic WM -view (the coloured one)? I remember there was a manila file in sense 2.1 you just could replace and it worked..
but for now i need it for sense 2.5 (landscape ability).
Hope you can get my point.
Thanks in advance
Yes there is one. Search for Message fix, or here is the link.
Try my ROM out, it doesnt have messaging client in it...
thanks so far.
this patch only discribes how to enabel WM classic messaging.
By point is that i want to change the behaviour when tabbing on a message in the messaging tab of sense 2.5.
even with this patch above i end up in the htc contacts menu/sms tab.
and THATS what i want to be the classic WM interface.
as i mentioned, it worked somehow with a fixed manila file in 2.1 ....
Take a look at this thread
Look for the cab that includes Zenyee's tweak
It is a mod that install the messaging client from sense 2.1 to sense 2.5
This sense 2.1 sms client loads MUCH faster than the one in 2.5, looks way better than the WM sms client, and shows character counts
When you tab on All message it brings you to the classic wm sms interface
Granted it is still not perfect...but it works very well imo
hmm, thats really nice one; not the classic screen, but it works as well...
someone here who has already made a cab of it?
Speadge said:
hmm, thats really nice one; not the classic screen, but it works as well...
someone here who has already made a cab of it?
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The cab is already in the thread
ctbear said:
The cab is already in the thread
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sorry, cant find it
just some guys saying they donno how to make a cab.. same as me
EDIT: found it
for the rest of you guys:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=262164&d=1262201225
Speadge said:
sorry, cant find it
just some guys saying they donno how to make a cab.. same as me
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here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5252166&postcount=34
Notification Delay FIX
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Ok, I decided not to wait til tomorrow, well technically for me it is (4am). Here is the long awaited fix.
*DISCLAIMER*
I am in no way responsible for damage to your phone, software breakages, Temper flares, or Hiccups, or Brain Farts. You are freely attemping to fix the notification relay delay based on what is being attached to this post knowing the risks.
Compatible with: HD2/Leo & Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2
Notification Enhancement Build 2011.3730.
Nothing has been added nor removed. This will fix the HTC notification, especially for SMS delay. This Build is only for HD2/Leo Roms 1.72 or Higher, & Touch Pro 2/Tilt2 Roms 2.07 or Higher Do not know if this will work on lower build roms, but see no reason why not.
I have removed the option to choose where to install so there is no mistake. There is the option of uninstalling this fix should it not work, or renders anything possibly to lock up or not work properly. I would suggest to make sure messaging client is not running when instaling.
If for some reason the cab fails to install claiming you dont have permissions, copy the cab to your device and run it from there, this seems to resolve the permission issue for some reason.
This fix does not remove the Msg Sent notification that seems to be default, if you wish to not have this notification, edit this line in the registry:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Jataayu\Messaging]
"DisableSMSSuccess"=dword:1
Known Bugs:
None Known or detected.
Known Issues:
May not work with Arcsoft Messaging system, has not been tested. Only has been tested with HTC/Jayaayu (AKA: Commviva) Client.
All comments welcome, Good, Bad, or Ugly.
Enjoy everyone.
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Does it work?
Does it not?
Go F! myself?
wat delay are u talking about my dear??.....is it the message loading delay in HTC MESSAGE??
yea please confirm what issue this is fixing? cheers
Agreed, clarification on exactly what this fixes is needed.
+1 for clarification, cuz if this will fix the lag caused when a message is coming in i would love it!
not the same lag issue i was thinking of. i hope it works for those guys though they seem very irritated!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641902
Explains all.
Thanks for the explanation, didn't even know that problem exsisted . I hope your fix works for people suffering from this problem.
i've been getting that on 1.66 but it's a bit intermitant. i'll download and test it over a few days and report back
Personnally i've this "lag" after sent message slow to return to home...
You think your cab can help me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJTXefa9PPE
some how i doubt it because that is caused by the messaging application itself. I have this too and i also have the slow load issue when a contact has more than 20 messages associated with it (i have one that has 2364+ (growing even as we speak))I installed netripper's LCS app which improved it but it's still not as fast as my diamond with the default 6.1 messaging app. I've also got the slow to allow typing problem and none of the tricks i've seen help with that one.
Ok lol
So waiting a proper HTC messaging client
G-ThGraf said:
Personnally i've this "lag" after sent message slow to return to home...
You think your cab can help me?
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I've just installed this onto my HD2 and i think that this cab doesnt solve that problem, but improves the ability to type faster when messaging thread reaches a higher number, as before typing would have been laggy for me, when the message thread reaches 50+ messages. Well, thats what i've experienced anyway.
Didn't i say that without even installing it? Yeah, i did, in post 11. This is for the notification system only i.e the sound that plays when you get a text message or mms. This patch doesn't fix any of the many other problems there are with HTC's - frankly ****ty - messaging program. Why HTC found what microsoft found good enough for the last 2 versions of WM wasn't good enough for them i have no idea because that works well and now includes exchange synchronisation support for sms messages (if you have exchange 2010 and outlook 2010) and almost all the other WM 6.5 partners are using it.
In fact i think i just convinced myself to install the hack that allows Sense to use the WM default (outlook style) messaging UI instead but i will try this first.
G-ThGraf said:
Personnally i've this "lag" after sent message slow to return to home...
You think your cab can help me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJTXefa9PPE
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Looking at your video, that doesnt look like a stock rom. After sending a sms I dont have that problem with the home screen freezing.
Again This is for the notification problem only. Depending on your rom, the Newest Msg client that works best so far is: HTCMessaging_Client_SKT_1_5_20143724, but its in Korean, which isnt a big deal either. The lag is still there, but allows you to type without having to wait for the msgs to load. So far no magic bullet has been found yet.
Sadly it isn't working for me
tested on
Touch HD:
Blackstonhenge 1.5 Hyper WM 6.5.5 Manila 2.5 - HTC Messaging (Client 3625,2622, modified Client by Wajk - i guess it's 3625) with Radio 1.14 / 1.15 / 1.17
Blackstonhenge 1.6 Hyper WM 6.5.5 Manila 2.5 - HTC Messaging (Client 3625 (?) edited by Wajk, new Version)
Notification in Standby (Screen off):
- on Batteryusage: no Textmessage Notifications (but MMS/E-Mail/... will work)
- while plugged into Charger: Notifications work
But as far as you did this cab, you must have an Idea what the Reason for this Bug is, can you please tell me what exactly your Cab-file does change? Im also looking for a Solution to fix this Bug, would be good to know your Suspicion. I wont take any Credit if i will find something usefull, just wanna get this working
apsis said:
Sadly it isn't working for me
tested on
Touch HD:
Blackstonhenge 1.5 Hyper WM 6.5.5 Manila 2.5 - HTC Messaging (Client 3625,2622, modified Client by Wajk - i guess it's 3625) with Radio 1.14 / 1.15 / 1.17
Blackstonhenge 1.6 Hyper WM 6.5.5 Manila 2.5 - HTC Messaging (Client 3625 (?) edited by Wajk, new Version)
Notification in Standby (Screen off):
- on Batteryusage: no Textmessage Notifications (but MMS/E-Mail/... will work)
- while plugged into Charger: Notifications work
But as far as you did this cab, you must have an Idea what the Reason for this Bug is, can you please tell me what exactly your Cab-file does change? Im also looking for a Solution to fix this Bug, would be good to know your Suspicion. I wont take any Credit if i will find something usefull, just wanna get this working
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Okay the cab really is nothing special, I have 3 rom builds, HD's 1.72 (Telstra), 2.13 ToMoUS and the TP2 2.07. The ToMoUS Rom has the Notification problem, which seems to be with the Notification Enhancement Package. The TP2 2.07.401 didnt have this issue, and the Telstra 1.72 doesnt seem to have this issue, so I tested changing this package alone, and found that the 2.13 rom has this problem. But take note, that this was tested on the TP2 on a stock 2.07.401 TP2 rom. I was taking the HD2 packages and putting it into the TP2 rom, thats how I found this to be the cause. I first installed all the packages from the 2.13 rom into the TP2 and it started happening, thats when I went searching for what it could be, and for me, the Telstra 1.72 rom and TP2 2.07.401 Notification Enhancement packages works.
Also note, I do not know if this will work with custom roms, due to the fact that alot of custom roms use the arcsoft messaging program, not the htc. Again mine is stock rom interchanging the packages.
Yea i was looking at your Cabfile. I also think that my Problem is the cause from HTC Settings Enhancement. Setting something within the Notificationsetting under the Manila Settingstab, doesnt affect my Windows Mobile Sounds and Notification Setting...
Under HKLM -> Software -> HTC -> HTCSettings_Imrovement i found some strange things:
Current_DisplayTime : shows a wrong time
DefaultSound_NewTextMsg : there was something different than i had selected
NotifySound_SupportFilterSound : dont know what it does, but is set to 1
SoundOption_AllEnableEvent : is dissabled ...
SoundOption_Intialized : enabled
and under HKLM -> Software -> HTC -> HTCSettings_Imrovement -> DisabledSoundFile : there are a few Entries, but why are they disabled?
edit.
solved now,i removed HTC Messaging and installed the HTC Messaging Client from NRG and his NRG-Roms, this one works for me, now my Notifications are back