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i have just purchased imate pda2(equivilent to O2 xdaIIi) and with a very minmum use after the full charge all the battery drains in just 8 hours ..Is this the normal battery life or its the fault of battery?
ROM version=1.11.00 WWE
ROM date 01/27/05
Radio Version=1.02.00
Protocol Version=1337.42
ExtROM version =1.11.144 WWE
Battery is PH17C 3.7VDC 1300mAH
I am confused about ROM size my hadware info shows..RAM 128mb Flash size 64mb....
does flash size means ROM?
but there is written 128mb ROM on booklets but it shows 64mb why>?
kindly help :shock:
I just recently bought a PDA2 as well, and experienced the same battery life problem. after running it down to less than 10% battery, then charging it back up to 100% a few times tho, the battery life appears to have strengthened a bit.
although i had a relapse last night, it was on 34% battery, i turned on flight mode, and then put it into standby mode. i woke up 7 hours later to find it on 9% battery! on my old XDA II, it would lose maybe 1% battery overnight with flight mode on. I'm going to keep testing this though.
as for the rom, as far as i know, rom = flash. the pda2's only have 64mb of rom or flash, whereas the xda IIi's have 128mb. as far as i can tell, this is the only hardware difference between the two devices.
hmm.. i just checked out the PDA2 website, and you're right, it says 128mb of rom. i've read elsewhere that it was only 64mb of rom tho, and thats what it says in my device information page as well... and i could have sworn that the above page used to say 64mb of rom..... very strange
omniwolf said:
I just recently bought a PDA2 as well, and experienced the same battery life problem. after running it down to less than 10% battery, then charging it back up to 100% a few times tho, the battery life appears to have strengthened a bit.
although i had a relapse last night, it was on 34% battery, i turned on flight mode, and then put it into standby mode. i woke up 7 hours later to find it on 9% battery! on my old XDA II, it would lose maybe 1% battery overnight with flight mode on. I'm going to keep testing this though.
as for the rom, as far as i know, rom = flash. the pda2's only have 64mb of rom or flash, whereas the xda IIi's have 128mb. as far as i can tell, this is the only hardware difference between the two devices.
hmm.. i just checked out the PDA2 website, and you're right, it says 128mb of rom. i've read elsewhere that it was only 64mb of rom tho, and thats what it says in my device information page as well... and i could have sworn that the above page used to say 64mb of rom..... very strange
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The perils of assuming the same radio stack works correctly across the globe with all operators!
Case in point - Xda II 1.66 rom worked brilliantly in UK, and sucked the battery dead in 8 hours in Germany. Why? because the german network had different settings for paging the handset
I'd say you've got a valid case to:
- Tell Imate to f*cking fix the problem
- Downgrade the Radio stack to another build and see what happens
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'scuse me for butting in...
Guys
I've been having really big problems with my battery too on my XDAIIi. You might care to look at the log I kept of the battery over the course of a day here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22468&highlight=
Southern_Man said:
omniwolf said:
I just recently bought a PDA2 as well, and experienced the same battery life problem. after running it down to less than 10% battery, then charging it back up to 100% a few times tho, the battery life appears to have strengthened a bit.
although i had a relapse last night, it was on 34% battery, i turned on flight mode, and then put it into standby mode. i woke up 7 hours later to find it on 9% battery! on my old XDA II, it would lose maybe 1% battery overnight with flight mode on. I'm going to keep testing this though.
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The perils of assuming the same radio stack works correctly across the globe with all operators!
Case in point - Xda II 1.66 rom worked brilliantly in UK, and sucked the battery dead in 8 hours in Germany. Why? because the german network had different settings for paging the handset
I'd say you've got a valid case to:
- Tell Imate to f*cking fix the problem
- Downgrade the Radio stack to another build and see what happens
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well i had flight mode ON, which means the aerial is turned off.. so i don't really see how the operator settings will affect it...?
i checked how i went last night, again turning the phone off (flight mode on), and sleeping for about 8 hours. my battery life had only dropped 3% which is much better, it went from 81% to 78%.
its an interesting thought about the paging settings though, when i finally sort out my login to the i-mate forums, i may have a look around for that.
stevep, yes i remember reading your thread a few days ago.. unfortunately it doesn't seem like you came across any sort of solution..
battery XDAIIi
Hi all
You're right, there was no solution. I had the device replaced three times and the battery twice. I can conclude that it's definitley a feature of the device. I don't what's draining it (nor do o2). I had the problem escalated at o2 and although they were very helpful, they didn't really come up wiuth a solution, which is disappointing! My main issue was mostly about how long it took for o2 to admit it's a problem. The normal 'change this', 'hard reset', deinstal/reinstal everythig' etc etc just seemed to be their way of 'getting off the hook' (sorry o2) and concluding that it must be something that I've installed on the device
I was getting to the point of thinking about reporting it tomTradining Standards here in the UK because 8 hours or less (to me) doesn't make it 'fit for purpose'...but in the end I didn't because it felt that it wasn't a strong enough case to argue. Now I just carry a spare charged up battery
Steve
i work an office job, so i have mine cradled most of the day, but the weekends is where it gets tested. we'll see how it goes this weekend. on the xda II i usually had about 30% battery left on sunday night.. last weekend (the first weekend i had it, i got it the thursday before) it barely lasted one night.
IS THERE ANY SOLLUTION??
So whats the solution? ....This much less battery time does,nt serve the purpose for me ....i always have my nokia handset with me bec pda2 battery goes dead in 6 hours when i am at work...i am seriously thinking to sell PDA2...it would have been better that i should have purchased PDA2k.i post a query to imate technical support they replied that give a hard reset to ur device and see ...but nothing happened..the guy said he is forwarding my query to technical deptt lets see what they say....
In short i am really disappointed after spending so much money what i got?...if the battery time is less pda2 is of no use for me.
The solution
Hi all - After long conversations with O2, I conclude that there is no solution (apart from always carry a spare battery). I'm really disappointed too! More so, because O2 constantly said my PDA was 'not right' and they kept swapping it out for anew one...
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stevep said:
Hi all - After long conversations with O2, I conclude that there is no solution (apart from always carry a spare battery). I'm really disappointed too! More so, because O2 constantly said my PDA was 'not right' and they kept swapping it out for anew one...
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just a thought, have you turned turbo omode on? because that will definetly suck the battery?
also, turn down the backlight settings....
Battery
Hi SouthernMan
Yep Turbo off and backlight set to minimum (plus all the other tweaks that drain the baterry are 'off' or set to their lowest
right now im hoping they're going to release a new ROM that will magically fix everything.. because i can't see it as being a problem with something we're doing.. it must be the device.
Battery
Hi OmniWolf
I agree 1000% That's what I kept telling O2, but they insisted
1. it was the device (changed it twice, made no difference)
2. it was the battery (changed it three times, made no difference)
3. It was some software I was running (took all progs off one by one, took ages, made no difference
((
S
well hopefully they'll get enough support calls that they start looking at the problem seriously
I REALLY hope so! it's a great device...but I can't get through a business day without having to recharge it. Mainly that's not as problem, but just occasionally, I have to work a day when there's no access to any charging facilities...and if you couple that with going out after work for a few drinks, the PDA is completely dead by the time I get home
I found that mine was draining at a rate of 8-10% per hour
Dear All,
Battery usage time is really one of the big concern for heavy duty user.
But O2 seems don't have any solution for the buyer. Buying a spare battery seems to be the only one solution....
I know you recommended buying a spare, but a more powerful battery that get you through the business day is a better solution in my book!
Hey I saw from Blue Angel thread you guys (Mugen) have battery for IIs.
So.... do you have higher capacity batteries for XDA II and IIi?
From myxda site I think they use the same battery.
think i might invest in sprite backup actually..
A disapointing end with pda2
Atlast after getting no reply from imate customer support(they just said give it a hard reset which had no effect on battery life) i sold my pda2 which had 4 hours of total call time at a loss of 180$...there is no big market for pdas in pakistan.
I was never expecting a well reputed device costing 800$ with such a major flaw... imate and o2 should be questioned in court y they bought a pda in market with a major flaw.
Was wondering if anyone has a reg hack that allows us to increase the resolution so that the Hermes shows the battery drop by 1% instead of the 10% that we are currently experiencing.
i have the same thing, i think we will have to wait for the next firmware to fix this...
SkyyBoy said:
i have the same thing, i think we will have to wait for the next firmware to fix this...
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Or maybe there is a Registry Tweak for "fixing" it.
(Who says that this is a bug ? Maybe HTC has intended to show it only in steps of 10% in order not to disclose how fast the 100% are gone ???)
Smart, I was wondering why my batteries doesnt go down! Hope we will get a fix soon.
It may do that to keep from polling the battery too often. So it may be a power saving "feature". just a thought.
Later; Lew
Got the same "feature" too.
I was thought it is a bug, or I have misinstalled something.
Joe
anyone have any idea to change it to 1, 2 or 5% per battery level change??
i have an Eten M600 (which uses the same cpu) and that does the same thing. hmmm, wonder if thats a hardware setting or software?
I wonder if "battery status" which was for the Wizard would work as a today plugin on the TyTN?
Ok tested the "batterystatus" plugin for the Wizard on the TyTN and guess what? Still only in increments of 10% must be something built into the device.
I remember this happened with the BlueAngel with the first roms too, and it was corrected in a later rom upgrade... so i guess it's just a rom issue.
found something !!!
problem is in battdrvr.dll as soon as I have copied this file from Wizard to Hermes and after SR battery status was showing 4%
however my battery was charged 90% but it means that in this file is something
responsible for 10% dropping
but even after coping hermes file (battdrvr.dll) back to it, after SR battery
was showing 4%
after HR everything was like before
Hope it is helpfull for someone.
I can't believe this issue is not solved in 1 year!
burkay said:
I can't believe this issue is not solved in 1 year!
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I can't believe you bumped this thread just to say you can't believe the issue hasn't magically been fixed by someone else's hard work.
Sheesh.
A friend of mine has a Mogul and he is having this issue as well on WM6. Having a Hermes on WM5 and WM6, this has always been the case. Shogunmark and Faria discussed this in a thread at length and tried to port the Wizard driver (which would decrease in incriments of 1%) but to no avail. Its a shame such a good device has such a tedious shortcoming.
We're making a big assumption that pocketpc's that report in 1% increments are truly that accurate. I'm sure they're not. It's also fairly likely that reporting in 10% increments increases battery life not just per charge but also over the life of the battery. This is a pretty good tradeoff, in my opinion. I'd rather have a battery that lasts 3 years than have one that lasts one year, wouldn't you?
This is also one of the more nitpickier of the 'complaints' on the Hermes, even if all other things are equal.
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I can't believe you bumped this thread just to say you can't believe the issue hasn't magically been fixed by someone else's hard work.
Sheesh.
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Why? I guess it is quite normal (i.e. not magical) to expect one of the official roms to have it fixed. And I didn't mean to bump the thread. I got my 8525 only a few days ago and I was reading through the posts in the forum and I saw this one and I was surprised that the first post is more than a year old and no solution was found. I thought it was weird so I wanted to leave a post.
Are we happier now?
Crap, still no soln... I hate this 10% decrements!
Someone help pls!!!
Battery drops to 10%
i had the same issue. I bought a new battery and problem went away. Very sad. but on a positive note, I bought a double life extended battery that last 3 days. Buy on ebay for 22 dollars.
Also, you can just take the battery out and put it back in. once in a while, it recognize that your battery is actually full. This is temperary though
I hate this issue too!!
I notice also a little "incompatibility with Baterystatus, when I power on the PPC from sleep, it shows for some seconds the battery level at -1% (!!!)
not only: the shown themperature battery is always too high, never under 48° SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE
I think that this could be a hardware/software problem, i mean that software could not read the exact parameters of the battery, not only the battery level but also other information
Hope this will help bye
Marcy1987
Hi,
I'm having difficulties keeping my phone alive, it goes dead on it's own even with battery power at 80% - 95%. I'm not sure whether that could be an indication of the battery losing its power.
I have even tried re-installing the ROM but to no avail. This problem started two weeks ago. I bought the phone in November last year.
Awaiting your response.
Thanks in advance.
Maqoqa
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My O2 Exec does the same - just get a new battery, I'm sure you'll find it will cure the problem.
Cheers,
Steve.
Yep, new battery fixed it for me too, but I got a 1750mah battery, and as per previous posts my Exec reports 100% battery charge until it runs completely flat and switches off!
Rowan
Yep, same problem here - I think it's just a problem with the Cameron Sino batteries.
Cheers,
Steve.
Is there any chance it's a software problem? I only seem to have had a problem after I upgraded to a MS Push enabled ROM.
yip same here had phone months done a hard reset now battery dies at 90%?
Has anyone with this problem tried a ROM up/downgrade and fixed it?
Hi lads there stacks of threads of this
i di a recent on,seems odd we all get the same problem at the same time but i solved mine see my other thread ill get a link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=60567
simple but it worked for me and since yesterday pda has been as pre new
I grabbed a Cameron Sino from Ebay, it works fine.
Actually, that isn't 100% accurate.
I had the first one "grow" on me, IE it started swelling which worried me.
I emailed the seller who sent me a free replacement upon receipt of the old one, which he sent off to CS for analysis.
This one is fine, holds charge, works to dead, charges quickly.
We all have different size batteries? We all have CS batteries? If we're looking for a cause for this problem maybe a Wiki page might be a good idea where we can all tick off symptoms and similarities?
I grabbed a Cameron Sino from Ebay, it works fine.
Actually, that isn't 100% accurate.
I had the first one "grow" on me, IE it started swelling which worried me.
I emailed the seller who sent me a free replacement upon receipt of the old one, which he sent off to CS for analysis.
This one is fine, holds charge, works to dead, charges quickly.
We all have different size batteries? We all have CS batteries? If we're looking for a cause for this problem maybe a Wiki page might be a good idea where we can all tick off symptoms and similarities?
MDA dies during calls or after using for more than 5 mins
Hi, My MDA Pro is doing the same thing.
Original battery about 12 months old.
Upgraded ROM from original to 1.13.48 NO HELP.
I did drop my MDA and it started a couple of days after that. :!:
I sounds like shock to old battery was to much.
I will get new battery and let you know if that fixes it.
Condex
I reccomend the 3200mAh extended battery.
What's the best standard thickness battery to get?
hmm you know mine had a m inor drop prior which i forgot about
i thuink ill do a poll this may well be the issue
whats the going price for a good standard size battery replacment
thank you
The original goes for about £30
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7857.htm
The extended is a similar price.
I saw one on ebay today that was exactly the same as my original one but made in China insead of Singapore for about £15.
OK, I've tried a brand new battery in my MDA Pro. It still cuts out at 70-80%. If this is a hardware issue it happened at the same time as my7 ROM update (I just thought MS Push was draining the battery).
Has anyone upgraded to an MS Push enabled ROM and not had this problem, if so which ROM have you used?
Unfortunately this is a common problem with all HTC devices on T-Mobile. I work in one of their dealers and have ordered out new batteries for many customers, the only thing is the battery is only covered under 6 months warranty not 12 meaning you will now need to buy a new battery.
I'm at a loss.
A week ago, phone started random resets and looping resets - usually when using a significant resource (i.e. camera, web).
I removed everything, reflashed rom, reflashed the Cingular rom etc. to no avail - same problem.
Today, I'm running the bare bones cingular rom without add ons. Seems like I'm doing fine - battery down to about 88% at 5pm which seems okay (I push mail from the exchange server). I take a picture with the camera and go to send it via email and the phone starts looping resets. I soft reset and I get a low battery message - 12%. I went from 88% to 12% in about two minutes.
Any expert opinions? Is it just the battery or is my phone turning into a brick?
Thank in advance.
Sincerely,
Jonathan
First off how old is the phone? It could be time to get a NEW battery.. these batteries have shelf lifes.. lol.. there days are numbered.
Phone is about 1.5 years old.
Update:
Interesting update:
Powered the phone off to pull the battery and check it out as I am looking for a new battery on ebay.
When I power the phone up, it now says battery is at 67%
- this makes me concerned that there is a hardware problem with the power management system in the phone...
thoughts?
"bump"
Any help, all. I would really appreciate your insight.
I'd start by buying a new battery. 1.5 years is a long time for a rechargable battery.
I am having the EXACT same problem.
I even bought an OEM Sanyo on eBay. No change. Then, I complained to Cingular and they replaced the phone (it took a LOT of complaining).
I put the new battery in the new phone, totally vanilla install. It worked great for a couple of hours, then the problems started happening again.
WTF? New phone, new battery and it's still happening.
Yeah - probably no way any level of complaining is going to score me a new phone from Cingular because of the age. I have a new battery on the way, but I am worried that it might be something with the charging circuit or something. Wish somebody with some expertise would speak up on this...
If you are lucky: they sell extended batteries on eBay. I bought me one for my TMO USA VARIO. The stand-by times are really amazing!
In case you consider to buy an extended one make sure that it comes with the battery door as pictured at the link below!
In general the prices on eBay are very low, so, if you are planning to keep your phone a bit longer you might want to buy 2 or 3 batteries at once? (Saves shipping and I really expect that the batteries will soon not be available any longer since the WIZ is discontinued.)
Link to eBay item:
http://cgi.ebay.com/For-Cingular-81...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I had this problem. Looping reboots, might work for 5 minutes but then a constant cycle of reboots. Mine is a years and 2 months old.
I though it was the phone and was ready to ditch it. The battery showed a good charge.
I bought a OEM battery off of eBay for 10 bucks and the phone has not had one issue since.
No question it was the battery in my case.
Excellent. Thanks for the response. New battery was purchased last week and should be here soon, so I'll let you know how that turns out.
Might also take a look at the extended battery - seems like a neat feature, although it looks like it would keep the phone from fitting in my car stand (I use tomtom with it).
I'll post a reply when I find out if it is indeed the battery.
Thanks again.
Its a battery issue.
I had this problem before.
I would charge my phone using some 3rd party cradle and some how it screws my battery up.
for exmaple. The phone would say the battery is fully charged. but when i use it. the phone only lasts 5 mins.
after awhile. not matter how i charge the battery the battery never went to it's full charge. and like you, it keeps looping.
this was an OEM battery that i had for less then a year.
i got a random cheap battery off ebay to test it. and now it works fine.
i threw out the old battery.
UPSATE
UPDATE: It was..... the battery. Easy OEM replacement off ebay for less than 5 bucks. Running like a champ again. Thanks for the insight. Hopefully this helps someone else in the future.
Cheers!
- JB
Hi all
I'm using my Blackstone until 2 years now.
I used the GTX 2.5 Rom
All was well... until one week. My phone can't be on during more than about 20h ... even without phone or other phone usage.
Is it possible somthing change ? I tried to stop 3G feature, no change, battery is depleted so fast.
Do you think i should change the battery for a new one ? after 2 years of life ? battery stamnia could decrease as fast ?
thanks
Same here ... get a new battery and all will be fine
regards
fwt
Ok, finally it seems to be what I guess... Thanks, I'll do that this week-end
Smart_Fury said:
Hi all
I'm using my Blackstone until 2 years now.
I used the GTX 2.5 Rom
All was well... until one week. My phone can't be on during more than about 20h ... even without phone or other phone usage.
Is it possible somthing change ? I tried to stop 3G feature, no change, battery is depleted so fast.
Do you think i should change the battery for a new one ? after 2 years of life ? battery stamnia could decrease as fast ?
thanks
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Agree with fwt, sounds like a replacement battery is needed
hey
I ran into the same problem about two weeks ago also had mine for about two years. I got an old trick from a friend who had experienced the same with another HTC phone.
just let it run dry, more or less, take the battery out of the phone in the evening and let it stay out of the phone all night and the next day, then let it fully recharge all night and next day. I did this and now it lasts as long as it did before this strange problem. of cause I have no technical proof but worked pretty well for me and its worht trying before buying a new battery
hurmm... started happen to me too past 3 weeks, will try your suggestion
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Mobile : HTC Touch HD Blackstone
ROM : KWBR 5.7 WWE / 11.23.10
Radio : 1.13.25.24
Manila : 2.5.20121225.0
finally... I will buy a streak to replace my touch HD
Maybe an excessive solution, but interesting so far ^_^