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-------> Is POSSIBLE to put ADOBE and POWERPOINT in MEMORY CARD to increase space??
Is possible to cut Power Point (2,29 mb) and AdobePDFreader(1,91mb) from the main memory and put them into the memory card??
It would increse a lot main memory space...
Experts, let me know if it's possible....
And what about all the files called "HH_WEATHER...", I have an other program fot meteo forecasts, so I don't use the original one... Is it possible remove all these files?? (I think that they are all images, I only opened a few, and they were all forecast images...)
BYE BYE......

the things you mentioned is probably burned into rom - you won't be able to remove it.

ww2250 said:
the things you mentioned is probably burned into rom - you won't be able to remove it.
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Yes, I know..
But I lose the warranty if I install a cooked rom....
If my device in future won't work correctly (or don't work at all) I wouldn't be able to put the original rom back??

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You could compress the two executables with UPX and use Resco Explorer to overwrite them in the ROM. That won't save you as much space as moving them to external memory, but by compressing the files, you will save a decent amount of space.

tyr0ne said:
You could compress the two executables with UPX and use Resco Explorer to overwrite them in the ROM. That won't save you as much space as moving them to external memory, but by compressing the files, you will save a decent amount of space.
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Actually that will use MORE space. If the files are in ROM they arent using any of you Program RAM. If you overwrite the ROM files like this the new files will be in RAM!!!

flykthewiz said:
Actually that will use MORE space. If the files are in ROM they arent using any of you Program RAM. If you overwrite the ROM files like this the new files will be in RAM!!!
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Are you sure about that??
Do you mean that, if I compress these files, when I replaced the originale ones with the newest, the pocket pc places them into the ram and not the rom??
How is possible it??
So I can do this operation or not?
I would be happy if only I had 2/3 mb more....

flykthewiz said:
Actually that will use MORE space. If the files are in ROM they arent using any of you Program RAM. If you overwrite the ROM files like this the new files will be in RAM!!!
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Anyone know this inconveniet??

the only thing is with anything that you add to your ppc after initialization... it stores it to the ram, not the rom, you would have to actually cook a similar rom to your original rom to have the new stuff in there, and all you would have to do is get the official ruu for your device before you call back in, and you are good to go, thats what i do!

MrGalione973 said:
the only thing is with anything that you add to your ppc after initialization... it stores it to the ram, not the rom, you would have to actually cook a similar rom to your original rom to have the new stuff in there, and all you would have to do is get the official ruu for your device before you call back in, and you are good to go, thats what i do!
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Ok, perfect...
I think that in the future I'll try a cooked rom, I know that it increase the space, a lot!
The only thing that worried me is the following:
If I have to repair the device, I must put the original rom back, but if I can't do it (ex my device doesn't start correctly)?
I had a Nokia N73 brand with my operator Tim, I have unbrand it (knowing to lose the warranty), but some months ago I must bring it to a Nokia Center, to repair.
And they don't see nothing about the difference between the original Imei and the actual one (that are different because you must do that to update yur firmware)....

flykthewiz said:
Actually that will use MORE space. If the files are in ROM they arent using any of you Program RAM. If you overwrite the ROM files like this the new files will be in RAM!!!
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So u mean it's possible to replace a ROM file in the windows dir with another?
If so, HOW... i want to replace smartdialing.dll in my htc elf with another one that's patched containing another language(greek) but it doesn't seem to work.
Any help on this one?

larryg4 said:
So u mean it's possible to replace a ROM file in the windows dir with another?
If so, HOW... i want to replace smartdialing.dll in my htc elf with another one that's patched containing another language(greek) but it doesn't seem to work.
Any help on this one?
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He talks about replace the file with resco explorer....
I think that you only have to copy the new file and paste it into the windows directory with resco....

Isnt it possible just to copy the program files to memory card and change the registry settings for those apps to point to new location?

jem777 said:
Isnt it possible just to copy the program files to memory card and change the registry settings for those apps to point to new location?
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I would want know exactly this thing....
Anyone know??

jem777 said:
Isnt it possible just to copy the program files to memory card and change the registry settings for those apps to point to new location?
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Some programs are hardcoded with paths in "\windows" directory - by moving stuffs around, things may break. Many programs that are expected to be in ROM fall in this class.
But then even if you are successful in "copying" it elsewhere, you won't be able to delete what's already in ROM. Overwriting it is just an masking action. ROM is ROM - follow me, Read Only Memory. Thus no memory is saved whatsoever.
Unless you flash it somehow.

ww2250 said:
Some programs are hardcoded with paths in "\windows" directory - by moving stuffs around, things may break. Many programs that are expected to be in ROM fall in this class.
But then even if you are successful in "copying" it elsewhere, you won't be able to delete what's already in ROM. Overwriting it is just an masking action. ROM is ROM - follow me, Read Only Memory. Thus no memory is saved whatsoever.
Unless you flash it somehow.
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Ok, I understand the problem..
Tell me only the last thing....
If I copy the files to the memory card and then I create some shortcuts to these files, and replace them into the windows folder, do you think that they'll work or not??
When the pocket pc try to use them, It'll find the shortcut(and not the program itself) but this will direct the pocket pc to the program itself....
Would it work??

If I copy the files to the memory card and then I create some shortcuts to these files, and replace them into the windows folder, do you think that they'll work or not??

flaviopac said:
If I copy the files to the memory card and then I create some shortcuts to these files, and replace them into the windows folder, do you think that they'll work or not??
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Noone know if it would run??

re-read my earller post. the answer is there already. if you find it difficult to understand, why don't you try it out yourself? it's incredibly simple.

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Data files on SD card not displayed and tdLaunch has no Help

Hope this is the right place for this....
I cooked & downloaded 3.17.03 (from Jeffs Kitchen) and have two problems:
1. When I go into Excell or Word now, I can't see any files that are loaded on the memory card. I have to use File Manager and double click the file I want. I can't find any way to inform Excell where to look either.
2. I also can't find anyway to add programs to the quick launch program (tdLaunch). I went to the authors homepage and dowloaded the PPC 2002 cab file but this won't run on my XDA. Curious that the author doesn't cover this most basic need in the README file. (I can't find any Help file for this even tho' I selected Help Files with all programs I chose to include.
Anyone know the answer to these problems?
A number of the attractive features mentioned in the ROM Kitchen announcement are not present on the version dloaded from Jeff. (Absence of tutorial at start-up, localisation to Central Europe etc, auto-config).
If any of the Developers see this, could they please comment why this is? (other than Jeff is not using the Developers ROM enhancements??)
Many thanks.
QUOTE 2. I also can't find anyway to add programs to the quick launch program (tdLaunch). I went to the authors homepage and dowloaded the PPC 2002 cab file but this won't run on my XDA. Curious that the author doesn't cover this most basic need in the README file. (I can't find any Help file for this even tho' I selected Help Files with all programs...........
Tap "start",...tap "settings".....tap "today"...... at base of screen tap "items"......tap "tdlaunch".........tap "options" you can add, delete, etc from there. Hope this what you are wanting.
1. When I go into Excell or Word now, I can't see any files that are loaded on the memory card. I have to use File Manager and double click the file I want. I can't find any way to inform Excell where to look.....
Try opening word or excel, at the base of screen tap "tools".....tap "options", take a look in there for the defaults for saving and viewing files. Might help.
cruisin-thru said:
Tap "start",...tap "settings".....tap "today"...... at base of screen tap "items"......tap "tdlaunch".........tap "options" you can add, delete, etc from there. Hope this what you are wanting.
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Blimey, I must say Inever noticed that "Options" option before!
Thanks a lot, yes that solved it!
cruisin-thru said:
1. When I go into Excell or Word now, I can't see any files that are loaded on the memory card. I have to use File Manager and double click the file I want. I can't find any way to inform Excell where to look.....
Try opening word or excel, at the base of screen tap "tools".....tap "options", take a look in there for the defaults for saving and viewing files. Might help.
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No dice on that one unfortunately. Even tho' i tell it i want to save to Storage Card 1 it won't look in there.
It's not this "ignore my doc" file is it? I used ot have one but now I can't see one in the root dir of the card.
:?
Did you try reformatting the card, after backing up the files of course. Also have you actually saved a file to the sd card since your upgrade?
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Did you try reformatting the card, after backing up the files of course. Also have you actually saved a file to the sd card since your upgrade?
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No, I havn't tried reformatting it. (After all its the ROM that was changed not the location of the data). And I just tried saving new files- They ARE written to the SD folder "My Documents".
But the XDA still doesn't see any files in the other folders on the card...
you have to save those files in the My Document directory on the SD Card. thats how MS did it.
Hi.
Actually, I dimly recalled that the file ignore_my_docs IS necessary for the OS to 'see' files on the Memory cards which are outside of My Documents.
I located a backup and found the ignore_my_docs file, transferred it over to the XDA and my problem was solved.
Not actually sure how the original was deleted. :?
Thanks for the feedback anyway.
Cheers

Remove files from ROM

How can I remove from the original ROM some files like T-Mobile, AIM ... etc. ?
I cooked up a 4.00.10 T-Mobile with GPRS monitor and batterypack but i want some more addons.
Can someone tell me what steps are required to remove from the ROM some files ?
Thanks,
Decebal
ROM = Read Only Memory.
But, i've we're able to add Programs to the ROM in the ROMkitchen, i think we're also able to remove programs.
Regards
Stefan
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ROM = Read Only Memory.
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obviously i do not deserve that
i was talking about the ROM image and since i've already succeded in putting into the ROM two apps i want to try something else.
so if anyone know how to remove at least T-mobile and AIM files from the image i'll be happy.
thanks,
Decebal
I believe they are in an area not able to be modified.
I was just quoting from that site, it does state that it cannot be erased, modified etc, no offence meant here. :roll:
The mkrom tools will allow you to 'unpack' a rom, i.e. extract all the files that are in it.
A rom, to the best of my understanding, has a 'native' or stock part to it, and then a series of XIP chains -- programs that are added into the free spaces of the rom.
I dont know what happens if you try to remove files from a rom that are part of the standard build...
Maybe the TMobile stuff is in a 'removeable' section of the ROM... there is also the 'operator' section... I am assuming that is a location that will give the 'operator' or creator of the rom space to put specialized programs, such as TMobiles phone apps, etc.
So, it seems that your best bet is to get the mkrom tools and read about how to extract/remove files/rebuild a rom.
Hey, it may even work!
J
You can rebuild a rom image from extracted files and leave some files out but Mkrom does not use compression and therefore the rom you end up with will probably be bigger than the rom you started with.
Richard
If I am correct, an eeprom is something else than a flash-rom.
so the article at least states it incorrectly.
if it is flash, you should be able to modify it.
XDA developer Itsme said:
If I am correct, an eeprom is something else than a flash-rom.
so the article at least states it incorrectly.
if it is flash, you should be able to modify it.
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Now, I do think that the real question is "How do we unlock the 'ROM' so that it can be modified being that it is an eeprom?"
Misterdollymaker
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
cgigate said:
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
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this is quite interesting...can you elaborate further?? I wish to learn more...
cgigate said:
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
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Yes, please! I wish to learn more too! I am looking to remove the standard sounds and replace them with my own (using same names) as well as the boot image and desktop.
yea, no kiddin, i'd like to know how too!
im sure its not impossible, 'they' did it the first time arround.
why not hacking it? and since its all at no charge (no profit) are we realy breaking any patents?
I wanted to know if there is an easy :wink: way around, to put our own programs in the rom. xda-developers certainly can't put ezwap2.5, and the total commander appears to be older version, while new version is much better. There are some more freeware application I'd love to put in there
xda-developers already posted some tools to do job, such as MKROM ...
cgigate said:
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
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I'm interested too
How can i add/delete file from nb1 file?
Thanks
Fabio
I've used mkrom suite to do this (even for Smartphone2002). This are great tools.
Unfortunately it's not as easy as you might think. It's nearly impossible to build a ZERO-KNOWLEDGE ROM file explorer which can add or delete files "on the fly".
You will still have to look for valid gap's in the original rom where you can add a new XIP block.
All .exe and .dll files are "fixed up" that means they MUST run at THE fixed ROM position where they have been initially placed (execute in place). If you dump an exe or dll file you can't use it for other than disassembly to see how things work.
Removing files is a very hard task (they are splitted over the whole rom). And the resulting gap's are mostly not more than 10-16 kB. All you can do is to "hide" files (simply patch the directory entry).
So you see compression is not the real problem (see programers corner for a .bib file which can be used with romimage.exe - a Microsoft Tool to build XIP blocks, this tool supports compression)
John Smith
only the kernel actually runs in the virtual memory area mapped to rom,
all the other XIP stuff runs from a virtual memory area mapped somewhere
in the top of each processes memory space.
( look at the 'real=' values in the output of dumprom )
so for all the other modules it should be possible to move them around
in rom a bit, I think you only need to keep the pagealignment the same.
Hi,
The virtual memory address is also fixed in the module. (That's why I've to rebuild all the stuff I want to copy from other roms).
Since all relocation info is gone the module can't run from another memory position. So the only thing you can do is to move it in it's own XIP section...
John

How to move "pim.vol" location to Storage?

Hi there is a way to move "pim.vol" by register changes?
Re: There is way to move "pim.vol" location to Sto
zpdy said:
Hi there is a way to move "pim.vol" by register changes?
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Hi I have asked this many occasions - in fact I would also like to get rid of the document and settings directory. It currently takes about 1.5mb on my device.
There is a program cleartemp that will remove contents of directories during reboot. However I am pretty sure that the files contained in the above directory and pim.vol are needed by the system, so removing them could crash your device.
Matt
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please.
I believe that if you were to make your own ROM you could edit the registry and move the files before flashing it into your Uni.
At the same time you could rip out WMP and PIE, replacing them with more useful apps like TCPMP and Opera, putting these programs into the 128MB flash instead of the 64MB storage. However, after reading a thread here about using MP3 ringtones and having WMP doing the decoding, I wonder how integrated it is and just what would happen if you took it (and it's registry entries) out of your system. Maybe just taking some crap like the Welcome program and some help/graphics files would leave you enough room in ROM to do this?
Grr, I should really get on and try this so that I can speak with certainty, shouldn't I?

delete a file in rom

is it possible to delete a file in rom memory? for exapmle a sound file
No. Not unless you are cooking your own ROM.
Even if you could somehow do it, it would not free up any memory you can use.
Wel you can't delete a file without cooking it. But you can overwrite it with a different file. So it should be possible to gain some memory. Look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358803 for a dummy file to replace executables in the rom.
Good luck
rikkiepikkie said:
Wel you can't delete a file without cooking it. But you can overwrite it with a different file. So it should be possible to gain some memory. Look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358803 for a dummy file to replace executables in the rom.
Good luck
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even if you overwrite a rom file with a smaller file you will still not have access to the saved space. there is a certain amount of space reserved only fo the rom images and you can not access it. unless you cook your own rom.
tom108 said:
even if you overwrite a rom file with a smaller file you will still not have access to the saved space. there is a certain amount of space reserved only fo the rom images and you can not access it. unless you cook your own rom.
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True, but you can prevent it from loading into the RAM memory by overwriting for example biotouch.exe ore some other program loading in to Ram memory

(Maybe) UC v3.0 - Get the BEST from user customization!

Ok, i was bored about rewriting sdconfig.txt everytime i changed the romlanguage, so i decided to make something that will avoid this, and will avoid to write the sdconfig.txt too
What are the main goals of my project?
Install everything you want without careing about romlanguage
automatize every process
How it works?
Simple. Put your cabs/exes/provxml/xml to import/run in your storage card folder "FB_Install"
Ok. You said that I can install exes, but if i need to add arguments to the execution of the file?
Simple again. Create a file (as an example, if your exe is "myexe.exe") naming myexe.arguments. in it write your arguments. You can use the arguments only on exes.
Well, and if i want to skip some files?
Just create (as an example, if your file is "mycab.cab") a mycab.skip file. This works with all types listed here (cabs, xml,provxml,exes)
Well, i need to hide the customization while I install a cab. How to do that?
Again simple. If your cab is mycab.cab, create a file with name mycab.hide
And if i want to don't reset at end?
Create a file with name "NoResetAtEnd"
Ok, i have that folder but right now i don't want to install anything. how to do that?
Create a file with name "SkipCustomization"
Ok. That's nice. But how i can add my own config codes as i done on UCv2?
Create a file "AddToConfig.txt" and add there your config codes. this will be appended after the other config codes generated by the program.
I want to create some shortcuts. How to do that?
Create a Shortcuts.txt containing the shortcuts to create. You have some IDs:
%SD%
%PROGRAMS_STARTMENU%
%PROGRAM_FILES%
%STARTUP%
%MYDOCUMENTS%
This will allow you to create an universal shortcuts.txt without careing about language.
Each line contains a shortcute to create. Example line:
%PROGRAMS_STARTMENU%\Test.lnk:%SD%\myprogram.exe
this will create a "Test.lnk" in \windows\start menu\programs folder pointing to \Storage card\myprogram.exe (that for wwe).
I want to copy some files in the windows folder. How?
Create a folder in FB_Install called "CopyInWindowsFolder". all files there will be copied to the windows folder. You can do that for Programs,Favorites,Fonts,Startup,Program files folders creating folders:
CopyInWindowsFolder
CopyInProgramsFolder
CopyInProgramFilesFolder
CopyInFavoritesFolder
CopyInFontsFolder
CopyInStartupFolder
I want to install some cabs to storage card instead of internal storage. how?
Just create (as an example, if your file is "mycab.cab") a mycab.ToSD file.
I will include that feature on my future ROMs, but if someone is interested i can release it here.
EDIT: yes i know that noonski done something similar but i was searching about something integrated
Nice idea. Good luck.
One thing though. There might be a clutter of files created but users which can get confusing? How about just parsing one file with all directions?
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Nice idea. Good luck.
One thing though. There might be a clutter of files created but users which can get confusing? How about just parsing one file with all directions?
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thanks. added other features on first post.
Maybe I missed it but is there anyway to automate .cabs to be installed on storage card?
MrDSL said:
Maybe I missed it but is there anyway to automate .cabs to be installed on storage card?
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i'm working on that too
michyprima said:
i'm working on that too
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If you can get that to work then it would be awesome..So far theres no automated option that works to install on storage card..
MrDSL said:
If you can get that to work then it would be awesome..So far theres no automated option that works to install on storage card..
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Well, i can say i now i got it to work. Requires a bit of work but it works. Well, visual studio is EXTREMELY powerful
Looks really good, I really like to try this UC
This is also a nice tool
finally got it to work right.
Now it can install CABs to storage card without problems
I want that in my ROMs too. Can you share it here?
solved problems on installing cabs too. The installation dll will NOT be executed so you won't need to care about user interaction while installing
Definatly interested in checking this out since it can install to storage card.
hope u make it available..
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Definatly interested in checking this out since it can install to storage card.
hope u make it available..
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well that's something for cooks not for users (it needs to be cooked in to work) so if i release it you can't use it at least when someone use it in his rom...
To me it looks like MrDSL is a cook. The ROM linked in his signature is made by him.
Are there any news? Will you release it here soon?
A powerfull alternative;
Will it get released? I'm eager to test it Virtually in an Embedded WM6 environment;
Windows (Embedded) CE/WM6 PowerToy: DiskPrep;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655377
I'm glad though that User Customizer DevPrep (CPY2 Storage Card possible) saved my day(s) until now!
Soon most readers from this thread too IMNSHO,
Senax

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