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A software for recording calls

Hi guys! Do you know if there's a way to record a conversation on the Prophet (ita version). I'd be thankful for some sugestions..thanx

Search is your friend :wink:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40100&highlight=poll
And Menneisyys' post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40429&highlight=poll
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Cant record you conversation because hardware limit. You can only record when you turn loud spearker on but quality is very low

check this out - works great on windows mobile smartphone, but i haven't checked how good or bad the pocket pc version is:
http://www.1800message.com/default.aspx
regards, lutz

IDEA - Use bluetooth
I understand that that there is a hardware limitation to record both parties during a phone call (probably the manner the sound is routed).
However, maybe the following idea could work:
Use the bluetooth inteface (handset service) to do the same job. I assume that any program could have access to the data that are send to the handset. Maybe, with the proper software or drivers, one could for instance save the bluetooth binary stream on the ram/rom and convert it later on to an audible format (I do not propose decoding on the fly since this might be too much for the processor)..
What do you think?
Regards
Evans

It's a good idea! But you must have "Windows CE programing skill" to do that. Ask some software company, may be they will help Us.

Evans_Prophet: you might want to do a bit more reading on the board. We've had discussions about this before - Mamaich informed us that the bluetooth audio path is hardwired and is independant of the OS.
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Thanks from Achille2005
Lots of thanx for you all just from achille2005.
Regards

Answering machine

Hello
I wrote an answering machine program (mortscript) for WM5 but I encountered a strange problem, when a call is answered all sounds playing in my phone was silent.
Does anyone know a tweak how to disable the silent feature in WN5?
Thanks

Do you have a cab file program for WM6? really need this program !!!

NO, Not yet.
When it's done there will be no need of cab file, it is a very light script file.
The only problem I have now is that my greeting message can't be heard by the caller because, as I said all sounds are silent.
There are no other problems, the caller can leave his message as usual.
You can even determine the length of the recording.

I hate to disappoint you, but an answering machine can not be written for many WM based phones in native C, let alone using mortscript.
Ahh if it was only that easy...
When a call is answered the sound is routed differently to and from the phone on the OS / Hardware level and as far as we know short of faking a BT deriver there is no way to record from the phone or play sound to the person at the other end.
There have been a lot of discussion on this subject in the forum, please use google and search the forum for "answering machine".

Thanks for your answer.
I have searched this form and the internet for such software and encountered your answer – B U T - I have noticed that in my phone (ETEN X500) I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH RECORDING CONVERSATIONS - the caller and my voice, (I even wrote a recording script and assigned it to the record button).
The only problem with my answering machine is that after the device automatically answer the call, the caller can't hear my greeting message, actually no sound cab be played because when there is an incoming call, the device mutes all other sounds.after that I can record the caller voice with no problems.
BTW – If a song is playing and a call comes, the song mutes, but when the call end, the song voice comes again.
So I thought there must be a registry value that orders the device to mute all sounds when a call comes.

tweak
i know there are some tweaks (programs) ,only i cant remember wich ones... that will let you choose between muting sound/notification in call or just let it play. i think phone alarm from pocketmax.net has that option. and maybe i can come up with some others if you give some time.....at this moment i cant remember any .... but i will let you know. i know for sure that there are some options for this!!

Thanks man
That what i thought. There must be some tweak for it.
Looking forward to your reply

This is interesting. As I wrote in my answer the problem is with "many" not all WM based phones.
So far I only knew about one that came with a built in answering machine - the g-smart.
I assumed you had an HTC phone, but if ETENs have recording and playback capability during calls too this may be very interesting.
Unfortunately, I do not know of any specific tweak for what you ask, but check out Tweaks2k2 and Pocket hack master perhaps one of them will have it.

Thanks, but no luck in both of them.
Still looking for the desired tweak...

So u need to press the record button to activate recording?

No,
The script detect an incoming call, if the call doesn't answered after X seconds (you define the X), the device answers the call, play the greeting message (which for now can't be heard by the caller – that until I find the desired tweak), after that the device opens Notes and starts recording for Y seconds (once again - you define the Y).
When the recording is done it sends a missing call notification – so you know you have missing calls.

Hi there,
Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick....but how is this any better than the answerphone function you get with mobile operators??

It’s not.
But it has its benefit. You save all messages on your phone (and can forward them to your PC), you don’t have to call your operator to listen to your messages, you can control on the activation and the parameters of your answering machine and most of all – you save a lot of money (at least here we pay for each call to cellular operator)

Guys, go read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1798169

Ah I think an answering machine is possible using SK Schema
I found the article on the internet and it was quite a joy as it worked perfectly for me on my Imate Jam
Played back the prerecorded message nicely and then ran Resco audio recorder to record the sound very nicely as well
If interested I can post the whole script here

Oh
Please do
Thanks

Check this out guys: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-isecretary-v1-1.html
Haven't tried it yet, it looks too "simple", but ok

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357635
this should indeed answer all your questions in regaurds to an answering service for you ppc

The beginning to visual voicemail?
This would be pretty sweet...good luck man.

The below mentioned article was written by andason:
Here is a how to on the answering machine... thanks to "testdebug".
first change
HKEY_CURRENT_USER->control panal->sound categories-> attenuation
0 -------- 0x0(1)
then.
how to generate and save script file= open skchema. cleck tools. click script. click new. select command. and select phone then answer at the top. click ok. click new again. select command. choose multimadia then play a wave file. select parameters. and choose file. browse and select the wav file u created by yourself using the windows default note application. choose tools again. click context menu. and click save to file. This is the script file that your are going to select and execute at the below mentioned.
from skchema, go to watch mode, type new, select watch for windows then choose phone at the top. select event title, choose phone ring on top. select ring number and put your dersired number of ring time before pickup. select execute and choose the script files that you saved at above.
Download latest version freeware PMrecorder. and create a shortcut n throw it into startup. it will record all your calls. to playback calls. just click on call list. select the logs and click play. You can set skschema to execute file when exit so that skschema will not expire. the file is a freeware mortscript, set it to delete skschema registry at hkey_current_usersoftwaresksks chemmain.Just save the file as RegDelete HKCU,Softwareskschema,main
Now u have an aswering machine that will auto answer your call at a specified number of rings which specified from u. then it will playback wav file from your recorded voice. And recording the calls. i see the pmrecorder does not record using the mic but through internal phone module as it is loud even recording othe party.
Ta-ta.........answering machine!
i even set skschme to monitor my sms. if specified number or sms words is recognised. it will excute script tp start cell profiler. scan the cell id then sms me back the cell location then format or delete all the files in case of thief.
~~~End of original post~~~
Note that in order for the above script to work correctly on my Imate Jam i needed to add a delay of 3 secs [after receiving the call and before playing back the greetings wav file: in parameters put #d(3)] in the original answering machine script by testdebug.
Instead of PMrecorder I used Resco audio recorder and the quality of the other party is simply "wow", very loud.

enabling .wav during phone call

I've searched for a registry setting for my HTC Touch to disable the muting effect of an in-process phone call to enable Media Player to play sound.
I found only one instance of a registry setting... it was to change HKCU-Control Panel-SoundCategories-Attenuation
In this key, I have
0...0x0(0)
1...0x1(1)
2...0x2(2)
I've found one post where it says to change 0...0x0(0) to 0...0x0(1)
When I do this, I get
0...0x1(1)
1...0x1(1)
2...0x2(2)
and I am still unable to play a wav file during a phone call.
Can anybody offer any suggestions?
--Yes, I'm trying to get the infamous answering machine to work because my carrier here in China does not have voicemail. This has driven me into the underground obsession of scripting, tweaking, and hacking of my new, wonderful companion...WM6. After 3 months of poking, prodding, reading, buying software (SK Schema, Resco Registry Editor, etc.) I've finally signed up on the board. What a wonderful hobby (now that I've finally backed up a good configuration for myself!!!)

Hi
I've been looking for that tweak for a long time now (see my posts).
The bad news – It looks like nobody knows
The good news – It's possible – works in iSecretary
I think that the difference is the program that plays the wav file. Somehow the one who wrote iSecretary found a way to play wav files without the traditional WM5 ways.

Is there anyone who can help with this? With the powers vested in this forum and the incredible things I've seen here, there must be someone who know hows to pull this off!!!

Recording telephone call

I would like to be able to record an telephone call by pushing a softkey.
I have HTC voice recorder installed, but it is not easy to activate recording while in a call.
Also as far as I know, there is only the possibility to program ONE hardwarekey (longpress off hook), and that one is already occupied by another program.
So I wondered whether it is somehow possible to program the softkeys that appear when I am involved in a call?
Or do you know another possiblity to activate call recording simply?

im interested too!

Action Screen
Hi there,
I don't know if this helps ur case but when you use actionscreen you can program your softkeys under the today tab, might be possible te get a record button then, not sure but i thought i mention it mine are set to left Action and right Shutdown, anyway hope this helps..
Caved

Can the diamond record both sides of a telephonic call ?
I think no... plz someone can contradicts me ?
However you need Softkey Manager for diamond

It should be invented.
When you record a call using the voice recorder it only records your own voice, but when you put the call on speakerphone it will record both parties. Probably because of the sound from speaker loops back in to the mic.
I'm already searching so long for a good working call recording tool but still no eureka.

can somebody not create a program that will record every phone call, in and out, from both parties, id love to have something like that. much better than the standard.

it's an hardware limitation af all windows mobile based pdas

resco audio recorder can auto record, but the other party voice will be slightly softer

You could also try Vito Audio Notes Touch. It also has an option to record all calls automatically. http://www.iwindowsmobile.com/mobile-audio-recorder.html

SkizZO said:
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Its a hardware limitation of all HTC based Windows mobile based PDAs... Some others can do it but not many. It's enough to drive a user to symbian

Evoluti0n said:
resco audio recorder can auto record, but the other party voice will be slightly softer
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I just installed this one.
The loudness of the recording of the other party seems just enough.
I don't want to record all calls.
THe program also offers the possibility to assign actions like 'start recording' to a hardware button. I tried several buttons (off hook, left, action, home), but none of them work, or have already another function, during a call.
A possible option could be to have an extra touch button on the screen when you are involved in a call (just like the button to put a call on hold). But I don't know how that could be done.
ANy ideas?

Today I discovered another unwanted side effect of this recording program.
When I made an phonecaal it appeard that the other party could not hear my voice.
The cause appeared that the recording program was still running in the background. AFter I closed this application the sound was OK again.
On my old nokia phone recording voice calls could be done with one key press

think u can try to turn off recording in background so u can view the recording screen during a caqll n stop the recording. i dont have such issue of others no hearing my voice during the recording

it's strange that such little feature, that so many other phones have had in the past, is so hard to get on an htc device. and funnily enough, i remember reading in manual for the original touch, that before recording a call you have to check whether it's legal and inform the other side... so there's gotta be a way
maybe someone feels like taking a challenge of making a simple app, that would allow you to record the conversations?

the only htc device i ive used that supports recording of both sides is htc startrek

there must be a way to record both sides of a phone call (without a speaker...)

there must be a way to do this, if the audio stream cannot be accessed programatically how do bluetooth headsets work?
i'm sure there would be lots of cool applications for this if someone could work it out, but it never seems to arouse much interest in the techie experts on here when i've mentioned it in the past.

in my very old WM5 smartphone SP5 it can record the call of both sides with a good quality by using this program
(not tested in the diamond try it if you want)

tesing it..

installed it on my diamond - it seems to work - but there is no option to record phone calls...
+ \there is an automates answering machine caleled: "isecretary" - it canrecord incommind phonecalls- maybe they have found a solution??

Best Call Recorder (both Sides Recording)

Hey guys does anyone know what is the best recorder to record both sides?
i tried resco audio recorder 4.1 but it only record my side of talkin.
IS THERE ANY SOFTWARE OR HACK TO RECORD BOTH SIDES ?????

what phone are you using? I don't think it can be done w/ the kaiser or hermes, but i could be wrong

You can try also with Vito audio notes
I haven't test it yet so I can"t ensure it will works

I Have the Titan and yes i have tried VITO AudioNotes v1.32 but it it ONLY records my Voice and not THE CALLER VOICE.
there gotta be some kind of Hack or something and there are so many smart people here so PLEASE HELP

arvinghost said:
I Have the Titan and yes i have tried VITO AudioNotes v1.32 but it it ONLY records my Voice and not THE CALLER VOICE.
there gotta be some kind of Hack or something and there are so many smart people here so PLEASE HELP
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it records the two sides of the speaker is on

yea but thats not very clear.

try Resco audio recoder
Resco audio recorder records just about everything, it also has an option to record your calls as they are made, and save them to a folder you specify, it's automatic after that, all calls will be recorded and dated, only thing it misses is logging the phone numbers, hope that helps
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/

arvinghost said:
Hey guys does anyone know what is the best recorder to record both sides?
i tried resco audio recorder 4.1 but it only record my side of talkin.
IS THERE ANY SOFTWARE OR HACK TO RECORD BOTH SIDES ?????
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Sorry to disappoint you but probably about 90% of HTC devices aren't capable of recording both side of a call unless you use loud speaker. I've tried many voice recording programs if not all of them on my kaiser without any positive results. Apparently it is a hardware limitation as well as one ofthe WM flaws. There was plenty threads on the subject just use search if you want to find out more.

maybe you could run 2 recorders at the same time, one recording from the mic (input) and the other recording from what the speaker hears (output) and then stitch them together using some audio editing tool. I'm sure there is a way to write a program that does all of this automatically on your device, your battery would just run out a lot faster.

who speak that A PHONE was not MADE to record call because HARDWARE THINGS. Is little wrong.
If HTC or any other device can not to record a call, its more because PROGRAM than HARDWARE.
Its just simple, if it is a HARDWARE THING. Standard programs that use AUDIO FILTERS OR LAYERS can not work.
Iam using WOW HD SETTIngs and when i change any seting this change to in phone . so this mean a FILTER can be between the original call and what we can listen, If i can change this so its possible to remap or intercept the audio to. ( HTC UNIVERSAL)
If we don't have Programs that do it its more because be hard to program a filter to each device.
In last CASE we still have Bluettoth , if someone REALLY WANT do a kind or program to record ( i mean loose time doing this). Can use a BT remap layer to a local program, instead a OUTSIDE DEVICE.

I am sure there gotta be some kind of hack to the phone reg. maybe that will allow us to record both sides because once i installed a ROM to my phone i forgot which one it was but i was able to Listen to songs while i was talking on the phone so i am sure that is possible to be done.
Please somebody try to figure it out

PM Recorder does record both side.. it even records bluetooth conversation.. i have owned many wm devices and the last three(benq p51, i780, omnia) i have used all able to record phone conversation using PM recorder.. the only drawback is the format it is saved in.. only the program can play it..
arvinghost said:
I am sure there gotta be some kind of hack to the phone reg. maybe that will allow us to record both sides because once i installed a ROM to my phone i forgot which one it was but i was able to Listen to songs while i was talking on the phone so i am sure that is possible to be done.
Please somebody try to figure it out
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what format does it save in?

forget the posts about ....
vito can make all your jobs - BUT WITHOUT RECORDING the caller's point of view.
these record is only which you hear from speaker to micro -> so that is very noisly - or you can set that the call will be made on speaker, but this is not what you want
i'm playing with pda's the last 10 years - and there is no solution for it.
there is no solution for recording both side from the call !!!
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of course from the technical point of view -> this is possible, but nowbody have develope a tool and the api from MS is not opensource
cu camel

camro said:
forget the posts about ....
vito can make all your jobs - BUT WITHOUT RECORDING the caller's point of view.
these record is only which you hear from speaker to micro -> so that is very noisly - or you can set that the call will be made on speaker, but this is not what you want
i'm playing with pda's the last 10 years - and there is no solution for it.
there is no solution for recording both side from the call !!!
# # #
of course from the technical point of view -> this is possible, but nowbody have develope a tool and the api from MS is not opensource
cu camel
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Not true ... I did managed to get it to work on my ASUS P525 (WM5) using Resco Audio Recorder but not on my TyTnII.

As far as I know, this is illegal in some countries. I looked into a similar program a while back and recording conversations (without the other party knowing up front) is criminal in the U.S.
It's a cool concept and I know it's possible. I got it working once, but for the life of me I can't remember what I used. Beware of the legal issues and good luck getting it to work if you decide to.

it can be done
camro said:
forget the posts about ....
vito can make all your jobs - BUT WITHOUT RECORDING the caller's point of view.
these record is only which you hear from speaker to micro -> so that is very noisly - or you can set that the call will be made on speaker, but this is not what you want
i'm playing with pda's the last 10 years - and there is no solution for it.
there is no solution for recording both side from the call !!!
# # #
of course from the technical point of view -> this is possible, but nowbody have develope a tool and the api from MS is not opensource
cu camel
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I have recorded both sides of a call using the notes record featur. I have a tmo wing and I have no idea what rom i was using seems it changes every week.

"...As far as I know, this is illegal in some countries. I looked into a similar program a while back and recording conversations (without the other party knowing up front) is criminal in the U.S.
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So, if this is TRUE. All nokia with SYBIAN and sony phones i already have in my life are under law.
The only plataform didnt record PHONE CALL is WM and HIGHT TECHS ONES LIKE WM.
The low END phones and SYMBIAN this is a trivial thing.
Iam just looking my sony w300 and t610 here ( 10y old phones?). and they do it, well a lot..

yea my friend has a Nokia phone and he can record both sides AND he lives in the USA.
anyways i tried the vito note but when i have it on recording, I cant make a call or hear anything until i stop the recording.
Also when i am already on the call, Vito does not start the recording why?
By the way i heared that it is possible to record while you are talking on Bluetooth but you need audio gateway driver or something like that ..
ANY IDEAS???????

yes it would be amazing if we could get what seems to be such a simple feature such as call recording on our expensive phones....
even 10 year old phones have this feature... so sad that our phones can do so much yet not this simple little thing.