Rubbish Signal (Unable to make calls or send texts) - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hello, everyone.
I recently purchased a T-Mobile MDA branded Tytn. I am using an o2 PAYG SIM card and have unlocked the Tytn for this.
Now I am faced with the problem that the signal is *always* weak and I have not yet managed to dial out a successful telephone call. Text messages barely get through and if they do, it takes an awful long time too.
Could anyone suggest anything such as settings or further ROM updates. My current ones are as follows.
O2's official ROM update to Windows Mobile 6 Pro. Says on the "About" screen CE OS 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3).
Device Information:
ROM Version: 3.54.206.1
ROM date: 06/25/07 (this is odd as this is in American format, not British. British would be 25/06/07).
Radio Version: Updated to 1.54.30.10 as a possible solution to my problem. No joy.
Protocol version: 32.87.7020.20H
ExtROM Version: 3.54.206.101
If there's any more information you need, please let me know. Bear in mind I am completely new to all this. I'm not savvy on jargon, so if you feel like you're being patronising, you probably aren't.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360917
Most likely the radio needs changing.
Try having a search in the forum cos I have seen this problem a few times....

Thanks for your reply. I did have a quick search around the forum, but as I am at work (just moved house, no internet) I have to move quickly.
I'll try the stuff that was mentioned on the linked thread.
Thanks again.

Take this into mind, especially the 7th post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356081
I use 1.41 and have never had problems, newest radio isn't always the best.

Oh my. I guess the lesson is to actually research what you're about to shove on your phone. Especially if you're like me.
Mine doesn't seem much different with either radio version. I will be trying a few others and actually searching for them first for info.

Where abouts are you? Middle of a field or a city?
It could be that the antenna is damaged inside.
You could try a few different sim cards, try a few radios/roms and if it still sucks then reset everything to factory settings and use the warranty if you have one.

Related

Piqued!

I recently joined this forum due to my coming into possesion of a couple of SX56 phones.
Currently, I am a cingular subscriber- (under two year contract, so that won't change anytime soon.).
The device I am currently trying to get to work is unlocked.
Model PW10B1
Rom Version A.30.09 ENG
ROM date 01/01/04
Radio Version A.33.02
Protocol Version 1.3.3
I've been searching these forums for the last three days, and have become more bewildered and piqued with the more I read. In essence, I'm totally lost on how to effect RSU changes here.
My SIM card loads just fine, all the contacts appear, phone will make a call, but connectivity sucks hind t*t. ie; dropped calls, single bar in areas my old phone had four bars ect ect.
I like the current OS. ( I use MS reader extensively).
Questions:
1. Can I keep the current OS and change the RSU to try to get better connectivity?
2. What are the steps to effecting this operation?
3. If the responders are going to tell me to 'search the forums for this already covered to death topic' , at least give me a decent search string to use. Everything I've tried comes up with 4000+ results and that's a hellova lot of results to wade through.
In advance, I appreciate any simple, direct answers and will try to answer any questions in the same manner.
Hmmm, I got the RS to upgrade via activesync with RSU V6.25.02 Now the device only boots in safe mode.
The upgrade finishes, but continues to say do not disconnect from pc.
Never mind--upgrade worked,,,,now to see if the signals are better.

Voicemail indicator doesn't work sometime?? WM6

Hi,
My voicemail indicator icon sometime doesn't show, even several voicemails there, it still doesn't show.
It happen most of the time (with signal/ or w/o). Reboot the handset doesn't seem to help.
Any thought? I'm using T-Mobile network and never had this problem before.
WM6 5.2.318 build 15341.4.0.01
ROM 2.18.0.0 WWE 2/14/06
Radio version 02.61.11
Protocol version 4.1.13.28
ExtROM version 2.25.11.102
What's up tempoct?
I'm having the same issue; however, I have a Cingular 8125 on Cingular's network. I upgraded the phone to WM6. Below are my specs:
- Rom Version: 2.18.0.0 WWE
- Rom Date: 2/14/06
- Radio Version: 02.61.11
- Protocol Version: 4.1.13.28
- ExtROM Version: 2.25.11.102
I am thinking it may be the radio version we're using; however, i posted my own thread before i noticed yours and i am also questioning the same issue.
I've gotten voicemails but not notification what so ever by the phone, which means i have to constantly keep checking my voicemails to see if there's anything...
I'll keep you posted if someone lets me know anything in regards to our issue.
Good luck!
Will V.
I might try to upgrade the radio version.
The thing is, my problem is not consistent though. Says, sometime I tested by calling my phone and left the voice mail. Sometime, the indicator show but most of the time it doesn't.
Its the security policy...
Check the service indication and service loading security policy. Might be worth applying the same policy as the original rom which your device shipped with.
I have a O2 Atom Life upgraded to WM6 and I have the same problem. I don't get the voicemail notification icon to turn on when I get a new email. I do get the missed call icon if my phone is on though. My Tel-Co is T-Mobile in the US.
I can tell that I receive the signal because when I leave myself a message using another phone, as soon as I hang up, my phone wakes up (screen turns on). I know it's not the SIM or T-Mobile because I tried it on my old phone and it works perfectly well.
The last post says to check the security policy. I have no idea what you're talking about. I apologize for being a newbie but can anyone explain in more details what I should do?
Thank!
It's your radio ROM version. Try either 2.19.11 or 2.69.11 and the problems should stop. Personally I use 2.69.11 because it seems to get better reception than 2.19.11.
That sounds really good, but being relatively new to this, I have a few questions:
1. Is this Radio ROM going to work with my Atom Life with WM6? I found such a file on Handango, but it was for a HTC Wizard running WM5.
2. Is it good for T-Mobile US? I read in some other thread that 2.69.11 is only good for Europe.
3. How do you install it?
Thank you again!

"Phone Not Ready...." Can anyone help?

I have an O2 XDA mini s as its so called, and an Orange Sim (both UK)
Now I can make/receive calls fine, but when I try to send a message, or goto the "phone" option, I get the message below. Nor do any contacts from my sim show up.
"The phone is not ready. Wait 15 seconds and try again"
Does anyone have some advice to resolve this as its pretty annoying!
I did try a search and got no results, so please forgive me if this is a topic that has been given the run around before.
Regards
Sam
Sounds like the simcard is dirty try taking it out and inserting again happens on probs every1 phone sometime.
Another option would be to go back to your cell provider and request they give you another SIM card
sounds like you might not be getting a strong enough signal to use the phone...or send out messages...consider flashing your radio rom to something higher (do a search for radio rom). radio rom flashing usually won't effect the os or ipl/spl...so you can keep all your existing settings. newer radios have more information on towers...so it has a chance to get a better signal...or at least that's what i've been told...
2.19.11 is common for cingular...but there's a post somewhere on changing something that will let you use higher radios with cingular without too many problems...personally, i'm messing around with 2.69.11 (t-mobile) and i haven't had any problems...
Tried cleaning the sim card to no avail.
As with regards to the radio rom, im sure thats the issue as i can make phone calls fine, so im getting a signal. It just seems accessing the sim card and texting is the issue
Its bugging me because its an awesome phone. Im wondering if its due to it being a different network branded phone to the sim card im using...
Sam
Ozington said:
Im wondering if its due to it being a different network branded phone to the sim card im using...
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if that's the case, you may need to sim unlock your phone? but if you're making and receiving calls, you should be fine...
if the sim card is old, or the service provider was taken over...or something of that sort, maybe your sim card has a problem...something like this was a problem back in the US when cingular bought out at&t...the problem was resolved by consumers going to cingular to get a 64kb sim card rather than a traditional 32kb...perhaps something of that sort is happening there?
I suppose that is a possibility,
I will try using the unlocking tool, but im not sure it would be the sim as it is only 2 months old. I just didnt like the phone i got with the contract so bought this.
I will certainly try. I kinda wish i'd just bought the Orange version of the phone
Oz
@Ozington. If you can make calls, chances are your phone is already unlocked. Did you bought this phone 2nd-hand? The previous users may have done something to it. Soft reset your system and tell us all your stuff (especially the Radio/GSM displayed) displayed on the first boot screen.
Alternatively, if you want to avoid all O2 crap, hardreset your phone and during init setup, soft reset it (poke it) just after you have done your security settings. If it is not using official ROM (e.g. no O2 stuff around to be seen), make a guess on the ROM used, and you can also try upgrading an official ROM (safe to do so).
Hanmin,
The phone was bought from ebay, but was brand new sealed, all in o2 packaging, the seller stated it was unlocked. It was all factory packed and the seal wasnt broken..
The Device info is as follows:
Rom Version 2.21.4.1 WWE
Radio 02.07.10
Protocol 413.1.03
ExtROM 2.21.4.101
Does this mean anything?
Regards
Sam
I'm doubtful that it is factory sealed and unlocked. From the information you gave (although not those I've asked for), seems that your phone ROM is a bit, old. Go to O2 webpage and download an update for the ROM (I'm not sure, but I think they have an updated ROM).
To check your ROM version, tell me the battery icon on Today screen, is it on the top left or bottom left. Top left battery icon means it is AKU2, the updated version.
To throw a spanner in the works the battery icon is in the top right?
Thanks for your help. What info did i miss out? (Please bear in mind i have no idea what im doing with the more technical side of the phone!)
Regards
Sam
I briefly had this problem as well. In my case, I could also receive text messages, but still could not send. I changed OS's and it was fixed. The problem only seemed to happen with one of the new OS6 roms. It was intermittent, and even resetting the phone seemed to solve the problem occasionally and briefly. I have flashed my device too many times, but think it was the most recent Touchflo version that had the problem for me. I was using radio 2.69 Ipl/Spl 3.08. I hope this might help. Good luck.
Orange SIM & Unlocked T-Mobile MDA Vario
Hi Guys,
Just a quick note to say that I have a similar problem with my new Orange SIM.
All the GPRS works fine, calls send & receive OK, POP3 email works a treat but no text messaging and when I try Start > Settings > Personal > Phone .. I get "The phone is not ready. Wait 15 Seconds and try again"
I have no answers to this but from all the searching I have done over the past few days to try and find a cure this problem seems to be common to Orange SIM cards. All I can think of is that the Call Centre Message Number needs changing to get the txt messaging to work.
The phone has worked fine on other networks - no GPRS but text messaging & phone calls
Any advice gratefully received !!
Hi guys first poster so be nice
I've got the same problem but came from T-Mobile to Orange.
My IPL / SPL is 1.03 so I'm going to upload the newer versions on the fourm to my phone and see what happens tommrow. Havn't got the time at the moment but I'll post up how I get on.
Do you guys think this is a good approch to the problem I've got?
Hi Sasyboy
You posted just after me. I got my phone working great on Orange now. It has taken me 3 days !!
You'll have to be careful on how you do it. I just jumped in and it caused me a lot of work and time. and a long period where I thought it was bricked 'cos the bootloader screen stayed on and I lost all comms with the MDA
First make sure the CID is unlocked, you must read this:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
I wish I had. This may seem a long way of doing it, but you don't want an expensive paperweight do you ??
After you have unlocked the CID and updated everything as per the Dr P stickie (link above) and it is working, you then need to get the Wizard_Love ROM upgrade. I tried after doing all the Mr P instructions in the stickie but still kept getting the "Phone is not ready...." so I decided I then needed the Wizard_Love ROM upgrade. This took me ages to find, I tried to d/load it via uTorrent but only got 25% and then found it on a Russian website - anyway I have it now, and as I said you'll need it, PM me and I'll get it to you.
You will have to download several files and set half a day aside. If you are struggling PM me and I'll get the files to you as I have them now.
I just need to get the Ornge MMS settings right and then all is fine. GPRS, POP3 email, Internet, Txt messaging OK now, SIM manager works fine (didn't even have it before!) and can access all phone settings for call divert etc
Good luck. Any queries I may be able to help, but I'm no expert. I have spent hours looking at this forum and all the answers are there it is just getting them in the right order.
How do all,
Really happy I updated everything and now it all works fine. Thanks to the community. I love this phone and now with updates it's even cooler.

Cingular 8525 plz help.

Hello,
I have a problem with delayed SMS/calls; I often receive my txt hours after they’ve been sent, also at times phone calls don’t come through. I've also noticed that it searches for network at least 3 times a day possibly even more. I have already tried hard resets, reinstalling the Rom and Radio also bought a new battery, however nothing fixed the problem. In addition I have contacted the provider and they’ve informed me that nothing is wrong with the network.
Cingular 8525 T-Mobile WM6 on Fido network.
ROM Version: 3.62.502.3
Radio Version: 1.54.07.00
Any help will be appreciated.
Thank you.
which rom are you using... have you thought about using a different rom and/or a different radio...? I'm assuming that your phone is unlocked, but using the OEM rom? I would try upgrading the radio first, just a thought, but it may be a reception problem.... have you confirmed the phone number that is being used for the text messages... It should be correct, but you never know... Anyway, just some random thoughts... Hope one helps...

TyTN is on but calls are not getting through

I have an HTC branded TyTN and even though the phone is on and the reception shows strong the calls are not getting through. Also when I try to make calls they are droped.
This does not happen all the time but very often. I miss about half of my calls.
Anybody has any ideas?
Need a little more info to help solve your problem.
1. Where are you located.
2. Who is your service Provider
3. Has the phone ever worked right with this provider
4, How long have you had the phone and was it new or used when you got it.
5. Does it still have the same Rom and Radio on it as when you got it.
6. What versions are those.
7. Have you tried a hard reset
Answer these for starters and let's see what we can do to help you out.
I am located in Cyprus and the service provider is cytamobile-vodafone. The phone was purchased from expansys.com.cy
It worked fine for more than a year. Although this particular problem occured very rarely during the first year.
I know of at least one more person who experienced this problem for a short period of time but it was sorted out on its own.
The only update I made to the phone was installing Windows mobile 6 from the official HTC website. The phone worked fine for a few months after the update.
No other update of any rom was made.
I tried a hard reset but it did not help.
OK, and thanks for the response. Based on what you have said, my only other suggestion would be to check your version of radio installed. If you are unfamiliar with how to do that, it appears on the screen at every reboot, or, you can go to settings, device info and it is listed there. I am unfamiliar with service Providers in Cyprus, so I would suggest doing a search of the forums to see if you can find another user with your service provider and a similar phone to see which radio works best for them. If I remember right, the WM6 update from the HTC site, does flash a new radio also, and that may be the problem. If you can't find anything, start a new thread with a title like best radio for cytamobile-vodafone in Cyprus, and hopefully you will only get relevant responses from fellow countrymen.
Does anyone else have any ideas to help this fellow XDAer out? Sorry I couldn't be more help.
thank a lot steve

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