REV A and GPS Nav ROM update watch - Touch CDMA General

OK, the rumored date is Jan 28th ... anybody know more G2 ??

I haven't heard anything official yet. I wish it would have come out before Tuesday since I will be going out of town and I could have tested it. I'll be back by the 28th, but I'll still be happy if its released by then. Hopefully they've thoroughly tested it and there won't be many/any bugs.

anywhereanytime said:
OK, the rumored date is Jan 28th ... anybody know more G2 ??
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will the GPS by turn by turn on the phone? or do i need an adapter of some sort?

spunks3 said:
will the GPS by turn by turn on the phone? or do i need an adapter of some sort?
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The GPS is just enabling the chip in the phone. You will need another app to actually use it. You could pay monthly for Telenav, which would use your internet connection to download maps as you drive. You could buy iGuidance, TomTom, or a similar program and load all of your maps onto your SD card. iGuidance will announce the street names, TomTom will just say "Turn left in 1 mile". This should make it work with Google Maps and Live Search as well. You can get directions off of these programs, but its not voice guided.

Check out this YouTube video - the author has comments "off" do you know exactly which software this is ??
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PDXXYuJSWM4

Honest question/comment:
Everything I've read and seen in the last couple of months indicates the Titan would get RevA & GPS in early Q1, with the Vogue getting it several months later.
What did I miss?
TIA

wsparvis said:
Honest question/comment:
Everything I've read and seen in the last couple of months indicates the Titan would get RevA & GPS in early Q1, with the Vogue getting it several months later.
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Everything I have seen suggests that BOTH will be at the same time - do you have a recent article that says they will be staggered ??
I am referring to the Sprint Touch, and therefore the Sprint Mogul - everything I have read is that both will be at the same time ?

anywhereanytime said:
Everything I have seen suggests that BOTH will be at the same time - do you have a recent article that says they will be staggered ??
I am referring to the Sprint Touch, and therefore the Sprint Mogul - everything I have read is that both will be at the same time ?
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No, my data points are the standard rumors and speculation floating around all the sites. I've seen a number of comments about 'same time' recently, and a lot about 'staggered' in the couple of months preceeding that. The only published and official fact that I've seen anywhere in months is Sprint's statement about Mogul in Q1 on HTC's site and at BAW.
It would make perfect sense for them to be released at the same time - not that sense is something I would associate with Sprint! :=)
I will be thrilled if they both come out at the same time, and soon. I have given up on my Mogul and put it on a shelf pending a likely trade for a Treo 800w. My Touch is now my primary phone.

anywhereanytime said:
Check out this YouTube video - the author has comments "off" do you know exactly which software this is ??
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PDXXYuJSWM4
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This is the new CoPilot Live 7 (http://www.alk.com/copilot/). I have this one also. The software is nice (but I haven't tried it on the Touch). The maps in my area are out-dated compared to iGuidance v4. CoPilot also doesn't announce street names, iGuidance is the only one that does this. ALK said they plan on releasing an update to CoPilot to make it announce street names though, I was never given a time frame.

january 28th is the rumored release for the Moguls GPS/REV.A release, the touch is not set to get a ROM update to enable such until at least Q2 2008.

This may sound stupid, but I'll ask anyway.
I have a Garmin GPS (Nuvi250) in my wifes car, is there anyway to pull the maps from that and use them on the Touch?

MrCantrell said:
This may sound stupid, but I'll ask anyway.
I have a Garmin GPS (Nuvi250) in my wifes car, is there anyway to pull the maps from that and use them on the Touch?
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i think if your nuvi250 has bluetooth .. it will allow u to use gps on htc touch !!

neogin said:
i think if your nuvi250 has bluetooth .. it will allow u to use gps on htc touch !!
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I'll clarify.
Once they release the update, if it allows us to use the GPS, could I take the maps that are on the Nuvi and load them onto the Vogue?

no you might not be able to use garmin maps as they are very heavily copyrighted and protected. you cannot even use maps from one garmin device to another

top of that .. u can't use it ..
but u can load from underground web ..
it is impossible to load from the map from nuvi to your pda ..

XmentalX said:
january 28th is the rumored release for the Moguls GPS/REV.A release, the touch is not set to get a ROM update to enable such until at least Q2 2008.
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What is your source - rumors or actual fact ??
Can anyone else confirm this - Touch not at the same time as the Mogul ???

That was my understanding based on what I have read as well. I hope to be proven wrong.

so just because the mogul came out first they're getting the update first?
this is bull****. sprint/htc's logic is ****ing trash.
sorry for the foul language but this just got me flamed. If iPhone v2 comes out within the next 4-5 months (thats what I'm hearing or something like that) and if that **** comes with all the features I need/want... then bye bye HTC.

well i hope it is soon, i would RUV to have this pupppy havin GPS. I mean the latency for gaming will be a nice improvement and FPS games will be playable via that mobile web, but GPS via tomtom and google maps will be [email protected]

well i guess the 28th wasnt the date?

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Tom Tom - Downloads

Is anyone able to supply me with the extra's such as speed camera notifications etc?
Thanks in advance
Sanj
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I found all the functions etc on the PIO Option
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Have a look here
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=20
They offer a free download of a Speed camera database - latest release Feb 2006.
They also have a lot of other interesting stuff relating to GPS on Pocket PC, Smartphone and Palm.
pewe, i found stuff in the PIO section of my Tom Tom...its got the speed cam images and the 20/30/40 etc speed limits
Glad you found them
pewe said:
Have a look here
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=20
They offer a free download of a Speed camera database - latest release Feb 2006.
They also have a lot of other interesting stuff relating to GPS on Pocket PC, Smartphone and Palm.
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Pewe, they have switched to a subscription based service for these now. The last free one was Feb 2006.
If anyone wants it, I have up to January 2006.
Jerry-S, nice one mate...
Tis ok my friend.
I have seen so many people struggle with tomtom and WM5 / Wizard and would love to just say, "Here, have a copy of my SD." Lol
But I can't cos it's not exactly......................
.....................well, ya'know, kosha. LOL
The last free one was Feb 2006
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So I see ..... well I suppose they have to cover the work they put in to keep it up to date. It saved my bacon a couple of times so I guess out of gratitude I will maybe subscribe... :roll:
It saved my bacon a couple of times so I guess out of gratitude I will maybe subscribe... :roll:[/quote]
Well if you look at it from a hosting point of view, as soon as people get wind that you can get for free what some people have been charging for on e-bay, what are they going to do?
I am assuming that the main reason for the charge is for bandwidth charges, seeing as the rest of the site is freely accessible.
If you think about it, it's not a bad price to pay, especially as it's a hell of alot cheaper than a fine or loosing your licence / job.
Now all we need for HGV driver like me, is a really good comprehensive database of low bridges and a way to make TT avoid certain Poi's.
Jerry-S, :lol: :wink:
Jerry S,
Have you seen this http://www.willow-house.co.uk/ its taken from this thread
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=19999
Thanks Stunno, thats fantastic.
I can't believe I didn't see that one, I go on that site quite regularly.
Cheers matey.
check http://checkpoint.oabsoftware.nl/
thats where it al is!!
greetz Maichel
seems like a silly thing to say but on the subject of tomtom i'm hoping people have gotta it to work on WM5... so has anybody?
jamiehutber said:
seems like a silly thing to say but on the subject of tomtom i'm hoping people have gotta it to work on WM5... so has anybody?
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I've got it on my Wizard (o2 XDA MiniS)
Tomtom v5.210
GPS Driver v1.20
GB map v562
There is a thread on how to get tomtom to see your BT GPS unit using com 6 / 7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46828

TeleNav for Athena

Nice job... Telenav
Enjoy...
Sorry, before I execute this CAB,,,, what is it? Like a TomTom GPS thing??
Telenav is a Navigation tool. Unlike TomTom, it uses maps stored online, that are up-to-date and updated frequently. They use NavTek if you wonder. Check the details here: http://www.telenav.com/products/tn/
I use it on other devices and love it also on my Advantage.
lbarouf said:
Telenav is a Navigation tool. Unlike TomTom, it uses maps stored online, that are up-to-date and updated frequently. They use NavTek if you wonder. Check the details here: http://www.telenav.com/products/tn/
I use it on other devices and love it also on my Advantage.
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How does it compare to Google Maps? (EDIT: Never mind, just looked at web site, and it looks awesome!)
What carrier do you have, what device do you claim to have? THansk!
Pay by the month for use? No thanks I will stay with Igo that way I will not incur any data charges plus monthly usage.
I think I'll stick to CoPilot 7
Confucious said:
I think I'll stick to CoPilot 7
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7? I have 6, and Copilot Live is at 6 for pocket pc. Yes, it;s great, even with the small screw-ups on the VGA screen.
wgary said:
How does it compare to Google Maps? (EDIT: Never mind, just looked at web site, and it looks awesome!)
What carrier do you have, what device do you claim to have? THansk!
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I run on many different providers ranging from T-Mobile, Telefonica and others. I have an HTC branded Athena (Advantage/X7500). Runs fine, as long as you create an account with them. I don't mind the premium since the maps are precise, up-to-date.
Review of TeleNav
OK, downloaded, put in my credit card (have until 8/11 to cancel) and... WOW!
Pros:
Very nice feature set. Best implementation of searches for points of interest that I have seen; makes GoogleMaps look downright clunky! One of my favorites was search for lowest gas prices. Can also search for restaurants by type, just by clicking. And the results seemed very accurate. Really, really cool. And the fact that it is live means that you don't have to wait a year for updates.
Haven't tested the voice recognition yet, but a neat idea.
Nice big buttons. Hi-res maps. Attractive.
It is surprisingly responsive, even when on EDGE. Although I haven't tried an interstate at 80mph yet. This is a keeper... NEARLY.
Cons:
My biggest concern is the routing seems a little "creative". I did routes to about 10 locations near and far, and I would say it is comparable to Mapquest 2001. In one case, it inexplicably routed me through a subdivision rather than the direct route. Then I remembered... Mapquest used to give me that same stupid detour! In another, a 8-9 mile trip routed out at 23 miles! Maybe it's just the area I live in, but I'm not sure I'd want to rely on it if I really needed to get somewhere in a hurry.
The only other gripe is that while the user interface is pretty, sometimes the menus are confusing. I would hit the Menu button and get a set of options that weren't at all what I expected.
Also, with MvRTrueVGA, there is a gap between the bottom of the app window and the bottom of the display where a little bit of the app below peeks through. OK, this is a hack, so I can't be too harsh about that. But wouldn't it be great...
Summary
Bottom line, this has the potential to be THE killer GPS app. It's not there yet, but I'm betting this will get better in the next while. I definitely plan to keep playing with it at least until August 11, in conjunction with GoogleMaps and/or iNav as a second opinion. I'd be interested about experiences others have had, particularly with routing.
WGARY,
Have you tried traffic function with it? If traffic info is really up to date and integrated to routing. $10 may be ok for up-to-date map and real time traffic.
Staroip said:
WGARY,
Have you tried traffic function with it? If traffic info is really up to date and integrated to routing. $10 may be ok for up-to-date map and real time traffic.
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Traffic really isn't an issue where I live. My only real beef is the routing. Otherwise, I would gladly give the $10/month... might anyway!
I've been wondering when someone would come out with something like this, but for me it's monthly fee is a deal breaker (or needing a data plan for that matter) because I almost never need/use GPS, so I don't want to pay $$ per month to use it once in a while...
Still I wish them luck and am glad to see them improving GPS.
lbarouf said:
7? I have 6, and Copilot Live is at 6 for pocket pc. Yes, it;s great, even with the small screw-ups on the VGA screen.
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CoPilot Live 7 will blow you away - it is a vast improvement over 6.
When is 7 going to be made available? Do you know yet?
Beware of this product for the time being if you are UK based - it doesn't work, the program installs fine from the link but it is not possible to activate it. They have said six weeks (ish) before rolling out PDA compatability for Europe - for the time being its Blackberry devices only - Mike
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CoPilot Live 7 will blow you away - it is a vast improvement over 6.
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:-S You got me curious now....
I love the fact that when I'm on the road for a long period, people (family, friends, customers) can track me and get an ETA on when I arrive, since I put my routes in CopilotLive. Maps are rough on edges, POI are not as rich as many features. I love TeleNav and consider TeleNav Track for the bidirectional functionality. Will see when they realease for the Athena. It's the really the best navigation PDA around in my eyes. By that time, I hope Alk will release Copilot Live 7. Can you send a screenshot? PM me if needed, I wonder how you got your hands on it and when it's due for.
Cheers.
Hey how did you guys get telenav to find the gps on the x7500? It keeps telling me that it cannot find it and to seek a clear sky position.
Thx
i didn't not notice it requried data plan before installation.
now, how can i uninstall it? TeleSav is not shown in the 'remove program' list. :-(
BTW, i still love my tomtom application.
UK friendly GPS software.
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Beware of this product for the time being if you are UK based - it doesn't work, the program installs fine from the link but it is not possible to activate it. They have said six weeks (ish) before rolling out PDA compatability for Europe - for the time being its Blackberry devices only - Mike
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I have tried another one, webraska. I find not as nice as Telenav, but very close. excellent coverage in UK, Whales, and France. On my last trip I used it and found it just as useful as Telenav. Check it out... Webraska. For my friends on the other other side of the pond.
Anyone happen to know if this version works on other PPCs? Telenav hasn't updated their other Windows Mobile versions in years.

Voice Calling for the Shift?

There is a utility in Windows XP called "Dialer". You can configure it to use the modem connected to the computer to make voice calls. It is located in the folder Program Files\Windows NT:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...ddocs/en-us/dialer_whatis_intro.mspx?mfr=true
In the past, I have used dedicated modems over land-lines to place voice calls using Dialer. In theory, wouldn't it be possible to configure this same utility to place a voice call with the wireless modem built-in to the Shift?
Does Vista include this utility? If not, couldn't it be easily copied from an XP machine to the Shift?
Why
the shift will inclue voice dialling out of the box so not much point to your suggestion but thanks all the same
according to some reviews there are NO Voice capabilities in Shift!!!
Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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thank you. yes voice and gps.
Hmmm. So when the official European HTC website, Shift section lists both the full Users Guide and Quick Start Guide && When neither mention the GPS or voice capabilitiels.
WELL
If they are included then HTC should re-write it's manuals.
i agree
and im sure they will update it now they have the full licence from the FCC to distribute the dev ice with voice capability
A little review to look at!
http://www.doctorsgadgets.com/htc-shift-review.html
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http://www.doctorsgadgets.com/htc-shift-review.html
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Ha. Doesn't he say "No voice, get it out of your head!" ?
alphaandomega said:
Ha. Doesn't he say "No voice, get it out of your head!" ?
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Oh yes he does but... look at the date the video review was done its about six months old it almost predates mmobile fones (lol) and the review is based on a very very early rom since this time gps has being confirmed which is not mentioned as it wasnt known back then and ohhh look htc have put the release dte back to january so who knows what there gunna change??????
yes it has gps 100%,but under vista with what software?
there is not clear until now.
for now use tomtom google maps or whtever in WM6 and once decent gps software is avaiable for vista get that instead!!
FCC approval is only for US market.
spzero said:
Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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Yes but if ur going too release something this good to the world is it not better to have approval in what will be one of the biggest buyers for the product.. it makes sense to me and 100% of computer devices i have have the fcc approval but i live in uk.
The user manual is available to download from HTC now and there's NO mention of voice capabilities whatsoever!
Sucks ass big time - this was my only hope of having a decent PC and phone - looks like the flybook is a better (but much more expensive) option as the new ones have faster HSDPA and voice!
If you read on Mobileplanet, they spec gps for the US Version but not for the european version. Is this true there fore we should wait for the US one?
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The user manual is available to download from HTC now and there's NO mention of voice capabilities whatsoever!
Sucks ass big time - this was my only hope of having a decent PC and phone - looks like the flybook is a better (but much more expensive) option as the new ones have faster HSDPA and voice!
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would u idiots for lack of a more meaningful word stop looking at the user manuals and what is online and look at a better source who says the shift has phone capabilities. i replicated snapvue on my athena. one of the options when u go to settings is phone where u choose ur profile, ring type, bands, etc.. like in settings/phone of say the athena. IT HAS A PHONE IN IT!! bangelboy even showed the dialer on his.
He's right, check out this video.
hollywould said:
He's right, check out this video.
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i know im right. i said this from the beginning before bangelboy showed this. my sources are good!
Maybe
Pawel062 said:
i know im right. i said this from the beginning before bangelboy showed this. my sources are good!
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Even bangelboy, if you check his website, was not sure that cell phone services would be part of the final production model, although he was hopeful that it would be. Yet, all HTC indications in all their documentation is that cell phone services are not included.
Yes, the hardware is there, but there are some problems, perhaps legal patent rights, that are stalling what we want the HTC Shift to perform. It might still be a case for XDA developers to work out.
I would be happy to have the assurance of your sources, as the evidence at this point seems not to be favorable. It is good for you that you have faith in your sources, but without ascertaining their veracity, out of the box, it is hard to believe the Shift is configured for cell phone service. Would you care to share your sources with us?

GPS- potential stupid question

ok, is using gps free? im in uk on orange?
garethclement2009 said:
ok, is using gps free? im in uk on orange?
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gps is free, as it is a signal as for example radio broadcast (the box where music comes out, and every hour someone reads out what happened in the world ), that is only received. however, there are many applications that use online-stored maps (google maps e.g.). this might produce some costs on your account, if you don't have a flatrate or a data plan.
brilliant, i have a data plan so i should be ok there, que using my htc hero to get into shape for the summer, thanks kendog
Not such a stupid question.
A national newspaper recently ran an article saying because there were so many GPS devices, the system would soon be full up! It was soon exposed as junk by 'badscience' website but not before they had already published!
drspikes said:
not such a stupid question.
A national newspaper recently ran an article saying because there were so many gps devices, the system would soon be full up! It was soon exposed as junk by 'badscience' website but not before they had already published!
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l m f a o !

copilot 8: is it my fault to update my phone?

Am going on a roadtrip vacation in 2 weeks and my only GPS navigator I have is what isnt working on 2.2
I guess you can say its my own fault to upgrade the phone´s OS, I can anytime reverse to 2.1...
But what really bothers me is they already have the iFon 4g version available!!!
So here I am looking for a quick and 1 step at a time solution. Whats the best nav out there thats good and reliable for Froyo?
Thx and advance!
yothanan said:
Am going on a roadtrip vacation in 2 weeks and my only GPS navigator I have is what isnt working on 2.2
I guess you can say its my own fault to upgrade the phone´s OS, I can anytime reverse to 2.1...
But what really bothers me is they already have the iFon 4g version available!!!
So here I am looking for a quick and 1 step at a time solution. Whats the best nav out there thats good and reliable for Froyo?
Thx and advance!
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Brut.all mod for Google Maps is pretty good, comes with word wide navigator and sd card map caching.
http://www.multiupload.com/0ZN45JQIO1
Thanks a bunch mate
cool thanks for the info!
They said on the 25th that it should be ready next week. So you might be in luck!
LINK
Navigon is free to install and they have a 30 day trial period with their full functionality so it should give you the time you need (unless your trip is longer than 30 days).
I got so fed up with waiting for Copilot to fix things that I went ahead and bought Navigon and have been pretty pleased with it.
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They said on the 25th that it should be ready next week. So you might be in luck!
LINK
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It wont be that long :=) I am just so used to using copilot wherever I go (I am bad bad bad at figuring out the paths to my destination lol) I tried brut with navlauncher the voice that guides u around is really anoying as its not english where I live
Quist said:
Navigon is free to install and they have a 30 day trial period with their full functionality so it should give you the time you need (unless your trip is longer than 30 days).
I got so fed up with waiting for Copilot to fix things that I went ahead and bought Navigon and have been pretty pleased with it.
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Hmm my vacation starts in 2 weeks I may be lucky enough to get an upgrade! I am not a big fan of navigon thats why I used copilot. But we will see... thanks a lot for your inputs guys, really helpful.
Can you please tell me how I download the google maps so I can use it offline ?
I'm also å CoPilot user.
Hoping for a update to froyo soon too...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Flarup said:
Can you please tell me how I download the google maps so I can use it offline ?
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You cant. Thats the only downside.
New update is out for Android 2.2 compatibility. Either update through market or HERE.

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