Watch Downloaded Video on your BA from your PC streamed over WiFi - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development

Ever thought that you could watch downloaded Video on your BA from your PC, streamed over WiFi, well now you can.
Before you start you will need a PDA with a good media player, Wireless network (WiFi), connection between your PDA and a PC, and the ability to set up a network share. The instructions below are for a Blueangel device but I am sure a smart person could adapt them for any other WM6 device.
Using Windows Mobile 6 I have Xplode’s (which includes lots of other guys work) version running at the moment on my Blueangel device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342142 This port of WM6 runs extremely fast on a XDA I have had for years.
I use CorePlayer http://coreplayer.com/ which seems to be the best media player going around, it plays 512x384 (AVI, DIVX) files at 29.97fps off the SD card flawlessly so the ovious next step is to stream them over WiFi. The resolution and format of video I mention is the type of format you will download most quality video off the internet. (Yes I know that my device only has a 320x240 screen, but the point is to play most downloaded video without having to convert it in any way, while within WiFi range!)
I have installed the network sharing capabilities found in cabs.rar, NetPlug.cab http://www.bigmike.it/download/cabs.rar By LGSilva
I then created a share on my home PC, (actually it already existed for my mediagate) and placed the video files downloaded into that sub directory. They are just the straight AVI files downloaded using Azureus http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ , you can use any torrent download program I am sure most of you have one by now.
I then mapped the network drive on my Blueangel to the share on the home PC, this was very easy to do, from the Settings-Connections-Network Plugin.
The rest is childs play, start CorePlayer, Open a file by browsing through Network (as opposed to My Device, or Storage Card).
Here is where my questions start, can people who have some knowledge please reply back with how well this works for them. For me video playback is about 95% Great, it video plays for about a minute then pauses for a few seconds then keeps playing. Obviously I am searching for the holy grail of 100% with pauses or dropped frames, and Super high quality. I suspect the limiting factor is the WiFi network, If I could just find a way to speed it up by 10% it would be perfect. I don’t use any encryption, and I have found that with some video and if I hold my hand still I can play video with no pause (tested over about 15minutes).
Thanks Justin. Oh and PS. If you do use this and it works please donate to Xplode below so we can keep future development of the BA WM6 going, he becoming a rare bread.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...ency_code=EUR&bn=PP-DonationsBF&charset=UTF-8

Free888 said:
Ever thought that you could watch downloaded Video on your BA from your PC, streamed over WiFi, well now you can.
Thanks Justin. Oh and PS. If you do use this and it works please donate to Xplode below so we can keep future development of the BA WM6 going, he becoming a rare bread.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...ency_code=EUR&bn=PP-DonationsBF&charset=UTF-8
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What I would like to know is how you manage to start and keep WiFi running on your BA. I have asked numerous times on these boards and no one seems to know what the secret is.
I think it was xplode himself who said that the unit was buggy. Which is a pity as for people over 50, the screen seems to be an ideal size to actually look at and press buttons on.
Personally I havent even been able to load his ROM but when I have had other ROMs working, the WiFi connection was NBG. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and even when it does, it sometimes reports that it isn't running! Even worse, there seems to be no way of scanning for available networks and then choosing the one you want. You seem to have to hope that it decides to connect to yours as opposed to some other.
As for donations, I wouldn't mind donating if people responded to messages and the unit could be got working properly. I would particularly like to try VoIP on this 400 MHz unit to see if it is any better than my 190 MHz Wizard

If you are having problems with Wifi, installing Xplodes ROM, or getting replies to your posts then I would suggest doing a bit more research and searching.
I personally have had a good experience with WiFi on my BA when using 2003SE, Helmi's ROM, and now Xplode's. (lets not focus on the little issue about having to turn it on twice, or soft re-set if that's too hard).
Too set up WiFi do the following Settings-Connections-Network Cards-[Add New...] type in your SID name (the name of your own wireless LAN, if you don't know this then you can't connect) [Next] Choose your Authentication type and Data Encryption type. These settings MUST match your WiFi set up. (Auth-Open and Encrypt-Disabled is a good start but I would not recommend leaving it like that unless you have other forms of security) Hit [Next] then Finish and your done. All you need to do now is turn it on (twice).
Too turn on
Settings-Connections-Comm Manager-[hit the wifi button]
then Settings-Connections-Wireless LAN (Turn on Wireless LAN)
If there are some people out there who have had positive experiences with WiFi under WM6 then please post and let us know, especially if you have tried the video streaming challenge.
I am still trying to work out how to improve the speed by a few percent.

Why make all this effort? Go to http://www.orb.com and sign up. It's free. Then you can stream anything (audio, video, photos, etc) from your desktop to your windows mobile device no matter where you are (on the LAN or outside the house from the internet) No messing around necessary.
MJB

Fair question mbial,
There is lots of ways to do this, The obvious one I was expecting to hear was "Why not compress the files" and yes when I do that it works perfectly. It would probably work well using the software you recommend if I compressed the files too, as that would suffer the same bandwidth limitations as my WiFi if not worse. (However I would be concerned with opening up access to all my media to the internet, even if it was fairly secure).
Unfortunately I can't access the site you mentioned as my work has blocked it, so I can't comment on that further.
My Goal was to open up all of the Video content that is currently on my PC hard disk, to be able to be played on my BA. I currently watch this on the PC, or on my LCD TV via a media gate http://www.mediagateusa.com/ I just thought it would be cool to be able to do when the kids and wife are using the TV's I can still watch Video on my BA.
The answer may not even be faster WiFi, it may be new hardware WiFi router, different WiFi configuraton, different Media Player, or settings, maybe its not possible I just wanted to see if anyone else had tried this. It is soooo close to working perfectly its frustrating.

Free888 -
Trust me and check out orb...it transcodes the media on the fly to the appropriate resolution for your device so there's no need to ever compress anything. It performs better, utilizes less bandwidth, and is completely secure. (Not like I work for them, its simply a great free tool.)
MJB

Cool, I will give it a go at home over the weekend and let you know how I went.
Thanks.

mbial said:
Why make all this effort? Go to http://www.orb.com and sign up. It's free. Then you can stream anything (audio, video, photos, etc) from your desktop to your windows mobile device no matter where you are (on the LAN or outside the house from the internet) No messing around necessary.
MJB
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I like fre88 idea, its safe and free, I know what I am doing and not depending on any other network / application.

mbial said:
Free888 -
Trust me and check out orb...it transcodes the media on the fly to the appropriate resolution for your device so there's no need to ever compress anything. It performs better, utilizes less bandwidth, and is completely secure. (Not like I work for them, its simply a great free tool.)
MJB
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i agree..i use it for a view years and it's great
www.orb.com
greating stef

Completely baffled by what is going on but it seems to be working!
Free888 said:
Too set up WiFi do the following Settings-Connections-Network Cards-[Add New...] type in your SID name (the name of your own wireless LAN, if you don't know this then you can't connect) [Next] Choose your Authentication type and Data Encryption type. These settings MUST match your WiFi set up. (Auth-Open and Encrypt-Disabled is a good start but I would not recommend leaving it like that unless you have other forms of security) Hit [Next] then Finish and your done. All you need to do now is turn it on (twice).
Too turn on
Settings-Connections-Comm Manager-[hit the wifi button]
then Settings-Connections-Wireless LAN (Turn on Wireless LAN)
If there are some people out there who have had positive experiences with WiFi under WM6 then please post and let us know, especially if you have tried the video streaming challenge.
I am still trying to work out how to improve the speed by a few percent.
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No, I had never tried these tricks! What I had done was to try to turn on WiFi in Comm Mgr and seen it not turn on. But as soon as I tried your method of turning it on in Settings Connections Wireless LAN, it turned on immediately (using the 5.60.00WWE ROM)
Then I installed an SJPhone VoIP software and hey presto, it seems to work immediately. Trouble routing the sound through the normal ports but I am sure I can work them out. Meanwhile I am trying to use my Wizard headset and trying to work out the delay and echos. As far as both our problems are concerned, cant you increase the speed of this BA by installing Battery Status software and increasing the clock speed? Everyone increases the speed on the Wizard from 190 MHz to somewhere around 225-240 MHz so perhaps if we did this the echos would disappear and the sound would be a bit louder?
This really does seem to be a much more advanced unit than the Wizard: Why are they not more in use? It is larger but thinner than more 'modern' versions

Free888 said:
If you are having problems with Wifi, installing Xplodes ROM, or getting replies to your posts then I would suggest doing a bit more research and searching.
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This statement goes with all issues and will never change. It is the same all over the place. Fortunately it only appears to be extremely abused as we see the negative more than the positive.
I personally have had a good experience with WiFi on my BA when using 2003SE, Helmi's ROM, and now Xplode's. (lets not focus on the little issue about having to turn it on twice, or soft re-set if that's too hard).
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I am not sure why, but with the 1938 build from PDAViet my wireless works better than ever, since the upgrade from 2003SE. It turns on with one click and even reconnects with no clicks after a soft boot. The only bug left is that if you let the BA turn off it cannot reconnect after you power it back on. You have to turn off wifi and then turn it back on. 2 clicks. I can live with this flaw.
Too set up WiFi do the following Settings-Connections-Network Cards-[Add New...] type in your SID name (the name of your own wireless LAN, if you don't know this then you can't connect)
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This couldn't be more opposite of my experiences if you used a mirror. I have NEVER entered my SSID into the BA, and it always finds my access point, and any others in the area I happen to be in at the time. It asks me if I want to connect and if required asks for a key. It literally works flawlessly in this regard.
[Next] Choose your Authentication type and Data Encryption type. These settings MUST match your WiFi set up. (Auth-Open and Encrypt-Disabled is a good start but I would not recommend leaving it like that unless you have other forms of security) Hit [Next] then Finish and your done. All you need to do now is turn it on (twice).
Too turn on
Settings-Connections-Comm Manager-[hit the wifi button]
then Settings-Connections-Wireless LAN (Turn on Wireless LAN)
If there are some people out there who have had positive experiences with WiFi under WM6 then please post and let us know, especially if you have tried the video streaming challenge.
I am still trying to work out how to improve the speed by a few percent.
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As for wifi speed improvements, the only thing I have found that may help is adjusting the power mode to best performance.

Anyone know what happened to the Wireless strength meter ???
I've just noticed that the wireless strength meter isn't working in Xplode's 6.00.0000 build ( not that I can say it was worked when I first installed it ). Anyone know what's up with that ? Is there a fix out there ?

My wireless signal strength meter definitely worked when I first installed Xplodes ROM, but after a couple of days it stoped working and has not returned.

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WiFiFoFum - For scanning WIFI areas needed?

Hello,
I have PDA2K (integrated WIFI of course).
I don't have any WIFI at work or home. But I may want to use it
sometimes outdoors in special cafes and internet wifi areas.
I didn't get the chance to use WIFI yet.
From what I undetstand, when WIFI radio is ON, my machine will automatically detect WIFI if areas that have it and I do not even need to do a single thing.
But I came across this program WiFiFoFum. From what I understand
it is a WIFI scanner, so that if I go to urban areas, it can automatically
scan for WIFI zones with public Internet and connect me there.
My question is what's the use if WM2003SE does it automatically already?
I'm looking for an easy and fast solution.
Thanks !
sorci said:
Hello,
I have PDA2K (integrated WIFI of course).
I don't have any WIFI at work or home. But I may want to use it
sometimes outdoors in special cafes and internet wifi areas.
I didn't get the chance to use WIFI yet.
From what I undetstand, when WIFI radio is ON, my machine will automatically detect WIFI if areas that have it and I do not even need to do a single thing.
But I came across this program WiFiFoFum. From what I understand
it is a WIFI scanner, so that if I go to urban areas, it can automatically
scan for WIFI zones with public Internet and connect me there.
My question is what's the use if WM2003SE does it automatically already?
I'm looking for an easy and fast solution.
Thanks !
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wififofum give you a list of all the AP's near you with there SSID and the SNR (signal strenght in db) and tells you if there encypted etc. the windows one is like XP zero config, it just pops up whenever it finds one and lets you connect to it, with a scanner you are scanning and not connecting,but it may give you the option to connect (perhaps when you find an open AP)
you should check out PocketWinCE, its my fav IMO, also check others like ministumbler but this probly wont work.
scanners (uses legally) are good to walk around your company premises to check for rouge AP's etx, illegally it can be used to find open AP that you could use to access internet email or anything TCP really,
I took a 5 km drive one day..
Windows came up with four different findings for connections..
WiFiFoFum found 24...
That's a 6:1 ratio for WFFF...
And at only a few hundred k.. ..install it and enjoy..
Bonzo said:
I took a 5 km drive one day..
Windows came up with four different findings for connections..
WiFiFoFum found 24...
That's a 6:1 ratio for WFFF...
And at only a few hundred k.. ..install it and enjoy..
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around and about glasgow you find loads and loads of AP's and many are unencrypted and unopened,
check out pocket lan, this goes great with wireless networking, you can map printers, shares, and much much more but i wont go into that as i doubt its gonna be used legally (in most cases)
COOL Thank you all guys for good info.
So what's the verdict for a good program that doesn't require
hours of tweakings and techie games to use ? Something simple
that will get the job done ?
Also are Encryped channels really encrypted? I mean, when surfing from an coffee shop that has WIFI, how can I be sure that my communication is totally encrypted and that no simple software sniffer can get catch all the data? OR maybe even hack my pocket pc ?
I thought about the WiFiFoFum as it's the first one I came accross with, but let's hear your choices for my goals (i.e. probably onle to catch wifi zones on t he streets) + sharing etc... would be nice.. disregard the price of the utility, i'm interested in performance.
Thanks guys!
WiFiFo Fum is the best..
It's simple to use, requires little memory, and can be used to connect to the AP's it finds..
As for encryption..
No, there is no WiFi network in the world that is secure..
The way ethernet is buildt, everyone with a very simple sniffer can download ALL your data stream..
As for security.. With WEP encryption, they will need roughly 4 to 6 GB of data before they can crack it and get any information from the data stream..
Don't be paranoid!
If you wanna check that it works, go stand outside PC world, or McSh1te and get WiFiForUm to do some sniffing.
You are right when you say that it 'should just work' unfortunately, though MS wrote windows mobile so it likely wont! If you dont find any hotspots when you think there should be some try a soft restart (my XDA IIs requires this swapping from work-->home AP, but not for Home-->work AP very odd.
Of course the AP's at PC world/mcsh1te will be btopenzone or thecloud ap's which means that it costs approximately 5 million pounds per hour to use them. But if you can sniff them and get to the appropriate 'give us your c/card page' then you've proven that the device works. Check out the btopenzone/thecloud websites for their login url's.
If they ever start being honest and offering a per MB tarriff at hotspots then I'll start using them.
Nigel
veletron said:
If you wanna check that it works, go stand outside PC world, or McSh1te and get WiFiForUm to do some sniffing.
You are right when you say that it 'should just work' unfortunately, though MS wrote windows mobile so it likely wont! If you dont find any hotspots when you think there should be some try a soft restart (my XDA IIs requires this swapping from work-->home AP, but not for Home-->work AP very odd.
Of course the AP's at PC world/mcsh1te will be btopenzone or thecloud ap's which means that it costs approximately 5 million pounds per hour to use them. But if you can sniff them and get to the appropriate 'give us your c/card page' then you've proven that the device works. Check out the btopenzone/thecloud websites for their login url's.
If they ever start being honest and offering a per MB tarriff at hotspots then I'll start using them.
Nigel
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tha scots knows all!! haha
thanks for all replies.
I downloaded the latest version of the program (0.3.3 i think)
Couldn't understand it or get it to work properly, it seems designed towards network technicians, not some normal pc/pda freak.
several issues:
1) When I go in urban areas, it does show on the Radar many spots, but the machine's own notification of 'Do you want to use xxxx for connecting to internet or work' dialog is interrupting it, and it starts to be a 'concert' of the WiFiFum and the internal network programs making noise.
2) When I did see many spots and tried to connect to some of them in the list screen(Try to tap and hold on the radar screen does ****) , it doesn't do ****. I click on Connect and no other dialog box or anything shows me as connected or something. Very akward program I must say. I also don't see in the list something which says if a spot is private or public (i.e. anonymous internet access allowed). And even not any help file. Seems like no human engineering was made here. I'd rather buy a program and pay nicely if it works rather than getting even a freeware which simply doesn't work.
Any other suggestion for other light programs that can actually work are very welcomed..
thanks again guys.
I think the problem might be between the stylus and the screen..
WiFiFoFum works flawlessly..
And please, forget about using the radar..
It will not work properly until you use TWO wifi cards..
When you see the list, tap and hold any AP to bring up a "Connect" option.
Now, you must remember; WFFF discovers EVERYTHING!
WM2003 only lets you connect to AP's that meets certain demands. (Signal strength is one)
I firmly believe that WFFF is the best software out there, just like NetStumbler is for Win32 environments..
I find it easy to use, and provides all the information I need..
How do you propose that the software can find out if you must pay before using it or not?
I guess this could be solved by connecting, pinging google, disconnecting and marking as "Public"/"Private"...
Though this would slow down the whole process so much, It would not be usable for anything else...
The concert can be disabled by the options panel, or just turning off the sound..
Sadly, we can't disable the WM2003 settings..
Street Hawk tries to connect to google so you know if the connection works.

Can't connect to local WiFi...errrrr!

I managed to do this quite easily with my PDA2K, but I'm having a heck of a time getting connected to my WiFi LAN. Has anyone managed to do this yet? Not GPRS, but WiFi.
Thanks!
Tom
Turn up the power level to max performance
I had trouble connecting to my home wifi (well it would appear to connect, but pocket IE wouldn't "locate" any pages). I ran ethereal on my home linux gateway and saw that it was getting its DHCP address properly and performing DNS lookups and even getting the responses. I wish there was ethereal for the Pocket PC, because what eventually made it work was that I turned up the power to maximum performance (instead of in between that and maximum battery). I guess the power level was just a tad too low such that the DNS queries weren't making it back to the 9100/Wizard device. Everything has worked like a charm since including Skype and a voip phone I use to connect by my home PBX called SJPhone.
Turns out I can't connect with either device now. I can get on with my laptop without a problem.
The manual sucks on this topic, but what's the best way to connect to a network?
Tom
Just bringing this back to the top. Still no connection at work, home or Starbucks.
Tom
is the Wizard any better than the BA?
Sorry tnw I can't help - I am wondering whether I should ditch my BA and go for the Wizard... do you think the Wizard is an improvement over the BA, or is it a downgrade?
I really liked my BA when I bought it. I had a the crappy HP from Tmobile which gave me nothing but problems, so getting the BA was great. I still like it. I saw the Universal in person and while it looked cool, I was getting tired of having a big pda/phone so I really didn't want to buy it. Its bigger and heavier than my BA, so that pretty much turned me off.
I read about the K-Jam on The Register and 48 hours after that had one in my hand. I really, really like it. I was looking for a smaller device than the PDA2K and having seen the i-Jam before, I thought this should work perfectly....and it does. I'm really glad I didn't go with the Universal. But, to each his own. The keyboard on the K-Jam is great also, screen is good, speaker is loud, speakerphone is perfect, camera is good....I really have no downsides to it....except I can't get on my frigg'in wifi.
If you don't mind the size, go for the universal. If you're tired of the size and weight of the BA, go with the Wizard. Overall, I feel the Wizard is a huge improvement over the BA. Phone and BT work perfectly! If you buy it from Expansys, you have 14 days to play with it. 14-day return policy.
Tom
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I had trouble connecting to my home wifi (well it would appear to connect, but pocket IE wouldn't "locate" any pages). I ran ethereal on my home linux gateway and saw that it was getting its DHCP address properly and performing DNS lookups and even getting the responses. I wish there was ethereal for the Pocket PC, because what eventually made it work was that I turned up the power to maximum performance (instead of in between that and maximum battery). I guess the power level was just a tad too low such that the DNS queries weren't making it back to the 9100/Wizard device. Everything has worked like a charm since including Skype and a voip phone I use to connect by my home PBX called SJPhone.
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I am getting the same, will not locate any page, though wifi settings show signal strength. Changing to settings suggested did not work for me, anyone else had this and resolved? Other than that loving the MDA Vario (Kjam)
happy bunny
finally got working. not too sure what I did but a couple of soft resets and undoing setting a specified IP address. now typing this on the couch using wireless network. Kjam now staying Ijam (MDA compact) likely to be on ebay soon.
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allanbach said:
finally got working. not too sure what I did but a couple of soft resets and undoing setting a specified IP address. now typing this on the couch using wireless network. Kjam now staying Ijam (MDA compact) likely to be on ebay soon.
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What did you change? I've been playing with this all day long. I'm writting this on my laptop over the wifi I should be able to connect to using my kjam. I spent a couple hours at Starbucks today as well.
Any hints would be great! I can get on GPRS without a problem, if that makes a difference.
Tom
My T-Mobile (UK) MDA Vario will not connect to my home 802.11g network. If I switch to mixed 802.11b/g mode the Vario connects and everything is well. The Vario can see the "g" network and knows which encryption is in use but it will not connect. I've read that Australian versions will connect to "g" networks, as will K-Jams and 9100s.
T-Mobile (UK) told me that they have chosen to disable "g" access. I am stunned. I've been trying to find a way to re-enable "g" access but so far no luck. I have hard reset and loaded no external ROM files whatsoever but that didn't fix it. I'm now trawling through the registry to try to find something but I don't actually have a clue what to look for or where.
If anyone has a solution to enabling "g" access on the UK MDA Vario please post. It is the only disappointment I have with the machine.
My KJam was able to connect to g network but on 11M, and regularly dropped the connection and connected, and in an hour of use it halted on WiFi (the pda works, but you get hourglass and nothing more if you enter wifi settings, or try to turn wifi off). I restricted the access point to 802.11b.
i can connect to my AP with no problems if it unsecured. if i turn on encryption it does not get an ip. if i enable mac filtering it works, but removes the mac from the AP when i disconnect.
afaik some APs have problems communicating with mobile devices.
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funnymanva said:
I had trouble connecting to my home wifi (well it would appear to connect, but pocket IE wouldn't "locate" any pages). I ran ethereal on my home linux gateway and saw that it was getting its DHCP address properly and performing DNS lookups and even getting the responses. I wish there was ethereal for the Pocket PC, because what eventually made it work was that I turned up the power to maximum performance (instead of in between that and maximum battery). I guess the power level was just a tad too low such that the DNS queries weren't making it back to the 9100/Wizard device. Everything has worked like a charm since including Skype and a voip phone I use to connect by my home PBX called SJPhone.
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thanks!!!!!! i have been busting my nut with this!!!!
I am having the same problem like this. .. but how did u guys fix it?

WalkingHotSpot

Hi all,
I just installed the WalkingHotSpot app (see www.WalkingHotSpot.com), which allows your phone to act as a WiFi Hot Spot. It does not claim to have support for the Advantage, but I lied and said I have a Tilt and the software did install. While there were significant display problems (I run 128dpi, and it seemed to not like landscape) the program itself ran flawlessly, automatically turning on WiFi, and establishing the service with minimal setup required... and turning everything back off when done. The options are all there (verify before connecting, AP name, optional WEP password, power control). It was amazingly easy once I figured out the mangled display. Also, you can connect multiple clients. Documentation is decent. I easily connected to the AP using my MacBookPro.
The download is billed as a "trial" edition, and there is mention of "Basic" and "Pro" editions in the documentation, but the trial edition seemed have the "Pro" level features. I could find no mention of price at this point. Maybe that is coming. There are other ways of doing this (manually or WiFiMRouter) but I have always had problems with them. This worked simply and quickly out of the box. I was just wishing for this capability when I was stuck at the airport last weekend for most of a day and wanted to do connect to the internet with my laptop. Wish I had heard about this before then...
Just d/l it, I'll try it tonight. I noticed when I close it, it does NOT turn my wifi off, that's a bit annoying. Reading the manual, it sounds like it also will have problems if you don't disable the power saving feature "turn off device if not used for...". I don't think WMWifiRouter had a problem with that, either.
However, even with those issues it definitely looks easier to configure/use than WMWifiRouter. Especially setting up security and and monitoring who is using it. WMWR doesn't allow any monitoring, and setting up security is a pain.
techntrek said:
Just d/l it, I'll try it tonight. I noticed when I close it, it does NOT turn my wifi off, that's a bit annoying. Reading the manual, it sounds like it also will have problems if you don't disable the power saving feature "turn off device if not used for...". I don't think WMWifiRouter had a problem with that, either.
However, even with those issues it definitely looks easier to configure/use than WMWifiRouter. Especially setting up security and and monitoring who is using it. WMWR doesn't allow any monitoring, and setting up security is a pain.
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Hmm. I think it is turning my WiFi back off. Maybe there is a setting? Also there def is a setting where it will auto disable power saving. The point ot that is, I think, to avoid dropped connection. So far, has worked swell for me. Other than ugly display with 192dpi.
I've used walkinghotspot and joikuspot with an N95 and an E90, along with wmwifirouter on an Advantage and a Kaiser and I can't fault their usefullness
HOWEVER
It is far more sensible to use a micro bluetooth dongle such as THIS which costs next to nothing and uses FAR less battery than wifi.
Granted bluetooth doesn't have the same bandwidth as WIFI - anything like - but practically speaking it enables perfectly fast web page downloads and stutter-free Youtube streaming: what more would you need on the move?
I have serious reservations about the effect these hotpot applications have on the battery cells. The devices get exceedingly hot in all cases - far hotter than with bluetooth, and such rapid battery discharge is surely unhealthy.
MAYBE it's better just to buy a dongle and play it safe and easy. They're handy to have anyway and very low profile....practically un-noticeable!
Just my opinion based on real-world usage.
so far this beta is really unstable...
i didnt see a setting for the auto powersaving off, ill look again.
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2398248 for a review & comparison of WalkingHotSpot
Menneisyys said:
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2398248 for a review & comparison of WalkingHotSpot
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OK, WHS was giving me some problems -- connected OK with Windows but not Mac. So I uninstalled then tried WMWifiRouter... except I get a runtime error; it won't start!! Any thoughts?

[APP] XP like Wireless Scanner

I´ve developed a simple app for scanning wireless devices for the pocketpc. Its features are:
- It´s been designed to be usable with your fingers but keeping a considerable amount of information on the screen
- Scans for wireless devices (APs and Clients) by issuing DeviceIoControl calls to the underlying driver (ndisuio)
- Sorts networks based on signal strength and displays the strength using the typical windows vertical bars
- Displays if network is protected or not (using a keylock image if it is)
- Further details of the wireless device can be seen when clicking on the device
- Scanning speed is configurable (5 possibilities)
And that´s all for the time being. Hope you like it!!!
P.S. I am currently developing a PE/Analyzer and ARM disassembler at the moment. I may release a beta soon to know your opinion.
UPDATE: I´ve been making some changes to the app and after some time I´ve decided to make it more eye-candy and "touch friendly". I´ve rewritten all the interface code and I´ve been testing it lately. Some options in the menu do not still work properly but I´m working on it...
I´m currently testing the WZC API to be able to connect to an AP with a simple click. When I manage to support at least open and WEP authentication (I´m now facing some issues with WEP encryption) I´ll post a new version of the app.
As for now:
* Scan begins right away if a wireless adapter is found
* Wireless device information is shown/hidden by double-clicking on any item
* Automatically connect to an AP (keep your an item tapped for a while)[TODO]
P.S.: Suggestions are welcome.
this is wonderful.
few suggestions:
1. after searching, there should be an option to connect to the selected network.
2. the app has to be run while WiFi is on. if there's a possibility to have it refresh wireless adapters automatically so it detects wifi even if it's turned on AFTER the app is run it would be great.
3. if the + sign near the network name could be like twice as big, it would really help controlling the app.
other than that this is really really wonderful. scanning is MEGAfast and the app is straightforward.. no bull****.
one thing i don't understand is, which clients does it detect? my laptop is running on wifi right now and it doesn't detect it. unless i'm misunderstood the meaning of "client"
thank you!
nir36 said:
this is wonderful.
few suggestions:
1. after searching, there should be an option to connect to the selected network.
2. the app has to be run while WiFi is on. if there's a possibility to have it refresh wireless adapters automatically so it detects wifi even if it's turned on AFTER the app is run it would be great.
3. if the + sign near the network name could be like twice as big, it would really help controlling the app.
other than that this is really really wonderful. scanning is MEGAfast and the app is straightforward.. no bull****.
one thing i don't understand is, which clients does it detect? my laptop is running on wifi right now and it doesn't detect it. unless i'm misunderstood the meaning of "client"
thank you!
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Hi there!
1. Good news: If you keep the finger/stylus pressing any of the wireless device, you will have the option to connect to it.
Bad news: It is not working properly (i can not debug my wifi adapter with activesync on...). There is a problem here and I have two possibilities: issue ioctls to the driver to connect to an ap (too much work and testing so I find it unfeasible for WPA and such) or use wireless zero (I do not really like this way, but I may use this way if I have time to test). Each method has its advantages/drawbacks and it´s not a trivial issue to resolve
2. I could do 2 things. Either check for adapters every "n" seconds if no adapter is found or try to enable the adapter if no adapters found.
3. I´ll have a look at that.
Thank you for the feedback!
Really good app. Later I will check to see if this can fix my problem with GRemote
asak0 said:
Hi there!
1. Good news: If you keep the finger/stylus pressing any of the wireless device, you will have the option to connect to it.
Bad news: It is not working properly (i can not debug my wifi adapter with activesync on...). There is a problem here and I have two possibilities: issue ioctls to the driver to connect to an ap (too much work and testing so I find it unfeasible for WPA and such) or use wireless zero (I do not really like this way, but I may use this way if I have time to test). Each method has its advantages/drawbacks and it´s not a trivial issue to resolve
2. I could do 2 things. Either check for adapters every "n" seconds if no adapter is found or try to enable the adapter if no adapters found.
3. I´ll have a look at that.
Thank you for the feedback!
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1.hehe i'm sorry but i can't see the good news fit here
i tried keeping my finger pressed and it doesn't do anything..
2. i assume checking for a connection every 5 seconds wouldn't make a difference cpu-usage-wise, so that would be great.
3. thanks.
4. if it's possible to scan at launch..
5. please refer to my question about the "clients". thank you.
nir36 said:
1.hehe i'm sorry but i can't see the good news fit here
i tried keeping my finger pressed and it doesn't do anything..
2. i assume checking for a connection every 5 seconds wouldn't make a difference cpu-usage-wise, so that would be great.
3. thanks.
4. if it's possible to scan at launch..
5. please refer to my question about the "clients". thank you.
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1. I´ll check that the version I uploaded is the same I am using in my pocketpc (a popup menu shows up with an option to "Connect"). Anyway the functionality is not yet operative, so it will make no difference...
2. I think it´s a good idea.
3.
4. I guess you mean scan using the first adapter found. This is a feature I wanted to include but I have a little issue with that and the status bar not showing when I launch the scan inmediately after start.
5. when I said clients I was referring to Ad-Hoc networks
I´ll review these issues this weekend when I have some spare time.
thank you very much.
Hi guys,
I can not run this great sw in my PDA... - Asus Win 5.0
thanks
I am glad to read it here.
szkandi said:
Hi guys,
I can not run this great sw in my PDA... - Asus Win 5.0
thanks
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Hi there!
It´s been compiled for ARMV4 based devices. Which processor does your Asus have?
ASUS 636n - CPUIntel PXA272 @417MHz
Thanks for your help.
Don't you know?
Please any ideas...
Hi,
Tytn2, Opal german ROM : didnt work.
Error Message : cant find wireless adapter.
Best regards

I have a few questions.. and problems

I was wondering if anyone has some help for these issues:
1. WiFi is very slow. I have my laptop open and using my wifi. The router is 6 feet away and I have a very fast connection. My X1 is also open next to me and I am using Opera 9.5. Yet the web pages load in about 1/4 the time compared to my lap-top. This situation was the same for Internet Explorer and the pre-installed Opera browser so I am sure this is not an issue of Opera 9.5.
2. I installed Opera 9.5 a couple of days ago. I can use the program reasonably well, however every 30min or so the program will not start correctly. In the Windows Bar I see as URL, but the browser does not start. The only way is to re-install it - so I am now doing this every time I need it.
3. When phoning the screen goes blank. A real pain when I need to use number keys to navigate my voice mail.. How can I tell the phone to keep the screen on? I have changed the setting which blanks the screen after a while to 30mins so this is not the setting..
4. How can I tell the phone to NEVER use GSM for data..? I do not want to pay the high data rate that Vodafone charges. I want to use my WiFi for all data transactions. I know the phone is supposed to use WiFi by default.. but I do not think it always does so. Also, when the WiFi has not been activated it automatically activates GSM data packages (GPRS etc.). In Symbian you can set this.
Many thanks!
Thomas
rendering webpages is not just a matter of internet speed
os cpu and mem are factors too
a thing where your pda will have a hard time keeping up with your laptop
a arm 500Mhz is nowhere near as fast as an old 500Mhz p3
about 4
then
settings-connections-connections-advanced-select network and choose
my network in both dropdownbox's
thomas.dahl said:
I was wondering if anyone has some help for these issues:
1. WiFi is very slow. I have my laptop open and using my wifi. The router is 6 feet away and I have a very fast connection. My X1 is also open next to me and I am using Opera 9.5. Yet the web pages load in about 1/4 the time compared to my lap-top. This situation was the same for Internet Explorer and the pre-installed Opera browser so I am sure this is not an issue of Opera 9.5.
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You're comparing web rendering on a mobile device with a laptop... of course it's slow, not the wifi but the rendering.
thomas.dahl said:
2. I installed Opera 9.5 a couple of days ago. I can use the program reasonably well, however every 30min or so the program will not start correctly. In the Windows Bar I see as URL, but the browser does not start. The only way is to re-install it - so I am now doing this every time I need it.
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Opera 9.5 is in beta phase, so it's normal it has glitches.
thomas.dahl said:
3. When phoning the screen goes blank. A real pain when I need to use number keys to navigate my voice mail.. How can I tell the phone to keep the screen on? I have changed the setting which blanks the screen after a while to 30mins so this is not the setting..
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I prefer this way, so you can't press any button with your face accidentally.
If you need to input some command, just turn on the phone and you're done.
thomas.dahl said:
4. How can I tell the phone to NEVER use GSM for data..? I do not want to pay the high data rate that Vodafone charges. I want to use my WiFi for all data transactions. I know the phone is supposed to use WiFi by default.. but I do not think it always does so. Also, when the WiFi has not been activated it automatically activates GSM data packages (GPRS etc.). In Symbian you can set this.
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Search for the app called NoDATA to disable your connections.
Thanks guys for your comments.. I think they are all valid.. however..
1. The slow web site rendering makes sense, however the rendering is in my opinion slower than it should be. On my laptop the speed of loading a web site seems to be limited by my internet connection. When move away from the router the speed slows down and pages load slower. On my cell phone the bottle neck seems to be the rendering of the pages and not the internet connection. It would be curious if there is some way to test if the speed of the processor really is the limiting factor. Is there some way to slow down winXP to the speed of the X1 and see if rendering speed is about the same..?
2. Indeed Opera 9.5 is in Beta so bugs are to be expected. I am just curious if this is a bug that others have seen.
3. Fair comment.. I suspect that ear-lobe navigation will never take off. It should however be my choice and a setting I think? Having to turn the phone on each time meant that I had to do so 25 times last time I check my voice mail.. real slow..
4. Ok. But I want to have data enabled, but only for WiFi.. The phone seems to turn "Data" back on without my consent and then picks either GSM or WiFi for data. I do not have the control to stop GSM being used. If WiFi is not available it defaults to GSM. The comms manager is not powerful enough. Is there another manager I can use?
Thomas
thomas.dahl said:
3. Fair comment.. I suspect that ear-lobe navigation will never take off. It should however be my choice and a setting I think? Having to turn the phone on each time meant that I had to do so 25 times last time I check my voice mail.. real slow..
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XperiaTweak has the option to disable the switch off.
4. Ok. But I want to have data enabled, but only for WiFi.. The phone seems to turn "Data" back on without my consent and then picks either GSM or WiFi for data. I do not have the control to stop GSM being used. If WiFi is not available it defaults to GSM. The comms manager is not powerful enough. Is there another manager I can use?
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NoData doesn't touch Wifi. Also the other suggestion about changing the selection in Connections should work (although using Live Messenger on a Vodafone ROM will only work over Vodafones GPRS).
artesea - you are a hero - thanks!
1.
you can try and turn on internet information server and add a local website to test speed diff
you can try to connect the x1 using usb to your computer and see if there is any speed diff compared to wifi
you can also try out the wm emulators for windows (not sure if those also emulate the correct speeds of the wm device though)

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