i was reading a tech blog and found this:
Link to the gallery
Link to the article
might be intrersting for the xda community
EDIT: 2nd link fixed
looks more like its showing off future smartphone and ppc phone technology. cant really tell
why couldn't it be wm7?
If they want to have an operating system that can compete with apple's then this looks promising to me.
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cacca said:
i was reading a tech blog and found this:
Link to the gallery
Link to the article
might be intrersting for the xda community
EDIT: 2nd link fixed
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Yes its wm7 that will come out in 2009
xvicx said:
Yes its wm7 that will come out in 2009
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how do you know that?
Check this out http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
mushipkw said:
Check this out http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
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Thanks for the link. Interesting read so far. I'm not done with the Blog.
I'm just wondering though. It says that the camera will be used to calcullate certain activities (which may include gestures such as shake, twist, etc.) instead of using gyroscopes and accelerometers.
While it is too early to tell, it seems that this approach (already attempted with current devices in field) would have a negative impact on battery drain since the camera would have to be "always on" in order to comprehend your movements.
Secondly, what if someone came up with a camera hack? Could you imagine having your camera phone hacked and just being on all the time, displaying your personal life to some freak? I don't know if that is possible or not, but, it would be kinda scarry for me.
The article contradicts itself in a few areas; such as saying scroll bars will be done away with, then later stating that the scroll bars can be dynamically resized. LOL.
Still, it's fun for me to read about forthcoming technology - vaporware or not.
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Thanks for the link. Interesting read so far. I'm not done with the Blog.
I'm just wondering though. It says that the camera will be used to calcullate certain activities (which may include gestures such as shake, twist, etc.) instead of using gyroscopes and accelerometers.
While it is too early to tell, it seems that this approach (already attempted with current devices in field) would have a negative impact on battery drain since the camera would have to be "always on" in order to comprehend your movements.
Secondly, what if someone came up with a camera hack? Could you imagine having your camera phone hacked and just being on all the time, displaying your personal life to some freak? I don't know if that is possible or not, but, it would be kinda scarry for me.
The article contradicts itself in a few areas; such as saying scroll bars will be done away with, then later stating that the scroll bars can be dynamically resized. LOL.
Still, it's fun for me to read about forthcoming technology - vaporware or not.
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Dude these are all just things Microsoft are thinking of. Im pretty sure many features will cut down from this as MS does it always.
tomazez said:
how do you know that?
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here all the full images and specs:
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
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hey! That's great...
I wonder if it still would be possible to get wm7 roms for our devices...
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hey! That's great...
I wonder if it still would be possible to get wm7 roms for our devices...
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In theory, yes. It will most likely not need different hardware than it needs today.
From the looks of it, WM7 will be a lot more powerful that WM6 and require a lot more processing power. I'm sure there are a few HTC devices which will be able to run it, but I don't think I waoul want to run it on my Touch since it can barely handle WM6.
I don't think there's been any official announcement about the date of release, but end of 2008 or beginning of 2009 sound like the right time frame for Microsoft to roll this out. http://htcsource.com
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Yeah, Google has just announced that Android is a platform there is no real GPhone. ok. I'm sure a lot of us are more than interested in getting this platform on our existing phone.
My question to those who understand the internals of our existing HTC phones. Is there hope for us to scrap WinMo and put Android instead. Their website makes it sound like it can be done.
What do you think?
I don't know the answer to that, but it sure seems like it, e specially since Sprint and other carriers are also joining hte Open handset alliance, they may provide support for linking Android with their services and configuration. I can't wait.
Wasn't there a pooled $$ reward that someone set up for the first person who could get Win XP running on the new Intel macs (prior to bootcamp). I suggest a similar motivational scheme (if necessary) to compensate whoever can accomplish a similar feat: getting Android to run on existing HTC hardware.
Anyone interested?
That would be super cool. I mean, I really can't wait...
What if we start a fund-raiser managed by the admins to request donations from members towards the reward? I'm sure that would be even more motivating.
Pool
I would love to start a pool too! The only problem is there are too many devices to support. With getting XP to run on an Intel mac, they all run the same hardware. My Athena is a lot different then somebodies universal or wizard. I'm guessing it will be just like the efforts to port linux over to our handsets. I'm hoping for my device to be able to run it but it would be a huge effort to be able to support all the devices.
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I would love to start a pool too! The only problem is there are too many devices to support. With getting XP to run on an Intel mac, they all run the same hardware. My Athena is a lot different then somebodies universal or wizard. I'm guessing it will be just like the efforts to port linux over to our handsets. I'm hoping for my device to be able to run it but it would be a huge effort to be able to support all the devices.
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It may not be that hard (theoretically) because they (OHA) did all the ground work of getting linux to run on our devices. The work (I think) is in dealing with the customizations for each device. The min requirements they stated seem well below what most of our devices are capable of, so that shouldn't be a problem either. Maybe we'll just have to wait until a device from HTC with that ROM comes out.
WARNING!! I absolutely am talking out of no knowlege.
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source :http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=4676
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HTC and Google are working together to release a new phone that will run on the Android platform. The phone will reportedly have a 3- by 5-inch swivel screen like the SideKick that will automatically rotate from portrait to landscape. It will have a full QWERTY keyboard as well, but the coolest part about the phone is the "time-sensitive" touch menus that will expand depending on how long the users touch the screen.
According to Engadget Mobile, this should show up sometime in the second half of 2008.
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According to Engadget Mobile, this should show up sometime in the second half of 2008.
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The tears are coming into my eyes. It was already possible
to use Blueangel as a linux phone two years ago without any help from HTC
http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa
It is possible, but as far as I know it, it didn't work quite well... Maybe we shall have better support when Android comes out.
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It is possible, but as far as I know it, it didn't work quite well...
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It was still not bad, when you consider that the code
is actually written without any docs from manufacturer
by 1 person (cp15).
Just look in the xda-dev archive.
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Actually, further speculation concludes that this is the correct rendering of that phone.
cr2 said:
The tears are coming into my eyes. It was already possible
to use Blueangel as a linux phone two years ago without any help from HTC
http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa
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Think of this though, we're struggling at the moment dealing with stability and functionality issues with WinMo on our devices made for that platform. How much more with a totally alien OS coded by a single individual. In as much as I think it was a great achievement, I do not think it was a workable substitute for WinMo. This however presents a huge posibility ..... my .02.
Hi,
Can someone port the STock tab to Diamond? Is it possible?
Doesn't this belong under "Diamond ROM Development"? Good idea, though, although I don't think it's possible... yet anyway
If someone creates a similar tab in functionality, then it belongs here, not in ROM development.
sounds good, hope someone can do it
Sounds good, but if you're from US, you're going to just an arrow going down, like this:
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So just put that image as a tab, and you're all set...
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Sounds good, but if you're from US, you're going to just an arrow going down, like this:
So just put that image as a tab, and you're all set...
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V Funny!! LMAO
Not funny IMO, very sad. Last time something similar happened, Hitler rose to power.
just buy short, and you will be fine
WiZARD7 said:
just buy short, and you will be fine
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ohhhh goody!! I just love midgets!
leonatan25 said:
Not funny IMO, very sad. Last time something similar happened, Hitler rose to power.
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not the time before tho.
leonatan25 said:
Not funny IMO, very sad. Last time something similar happened, Hitler rose to power.
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OMG! This is the most lame comment I read in this time of USA's market crashing down which YOU yourself have to justify!!
It has absolutely nothing to do with Hitler or anyone else you hypocrite! Shame on you!
It's really a shame that comments like leonatan's are allowed here.
Port HD stock tab to Diamond
This is not the place to discuss stock market ....
So can someone port stock tab to Diamond? or is there any resource to link to this request?
It would be a great thing to view my portfolio on this thing without having to log into E*Trade in Opera.
And to add to the stock discussion...stocks are just on sale right now...so calm down!
kevinlong said:
This is not the place to discuss stock market ....
So can someone port stock tab to Diamond? or is there any resource to link to this request?
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Where to get blackStone manila pkg?
I and D-MAN will try to port stock tab if we get pkg with it
diamax said:
OMG! This is the most lame comment I read in this time of USA's market crashing down which YOU yourself have to justify!!
It has absolutely nothing to do with Hitler or anyone else you hypocrite! Shame on you!
It's really a shame that comments like leonatan's are allowed here.
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Seriously, what are you talking about? You obviously have no clue in history, especially, in this case, what the Great Depression (which originated in the USA) did to Europe.
There's nothing wrong with stating the obvious truth. If I made you uncomfortable because you choose to close your eyes instead of seeing the truth, well that's your problem.
This is not a forum for political comments.
BUT since you people started, it is AT LEAST lame to believe that US is what balances the planet. US can very well be what distracts the balance from time to time.
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Seriously, what are you talking about? You obviously have no clue in history, especially, in this case, what the Great Depression (which originated in the USA) did to Europe.
There's nothing wrong with stating the obvious truth. If I made you uncomfortable because you choose to close your eyes instead of seeing the truth, well that's your problem.
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Yes, Hitler rose to power ONLY because of the Depression...
Of course he didn't. Massive oversimplification. It may have helped, but certainly wasn't the only, or probably even the main reason.
Also, yes the US has a massive bearing on the world at the moment, but China and Japan have grown in power massively recently, and with the world not in a state of post-War rebuilding, the situation is totally different.
I too would like a stock tab by the way.
OK everyone settle down. Let's focus. We all want this stock tab.
Currently, I'm writing my own local html files with links to http://stockcharts.com/avantgo/ charts.
I have been using this work-around for almost three years now and I'm really quite sick of it. I myself am willing to contribute monetarily towards porting this stock tab.
Is there no slight possibility HTC will bring it to the Diamond and Raphael in a subsequent ROM release?
sure there is
I expect the sliding dialer too
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@ StalkerZoner for Diamond 2 firmware is not planned.Of the existing communicators on the market, only HD2 firmware to get WM7.
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http://www.redmondpie.com/windows-mobile-7-confirmed-for-htc-hd2-9140293/
There is a minimum spec hardware requirement for WM7. HD2 meets the spec but sadly Topaz is well below.
Of course, it will be interesting to see what our chefs can do with it
But maybe
I say TP, TP2, D, D2 is PLANED...
WM7 is not just one distrib... like W7 is have two level or more (maybe Pro and Stnd.) I think Stnd is for the old devs....
Maybe this will not be the end, but NOW is plane.
WM7 will have radical new kernel with driver implementation...
one hundred words is one to the end, I hope will be true
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=94034&start=0
WP7...
Windows Phone 7... official release for TD2... dream on! In all the history of Windows Mobile devices (now Windows Phone devices), I have never seen or heard of a manufacturer / network provider offering official upgrade for a particular device twice.
TD2 has had official upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5... if you think you'll get official WP7 for this device you're living in dream land
However, that doesn't mean we won't get it for our devices. If only there was a web site somewhere with clever chefs who might be able to cook this for us... mmmm
sadly it DOES
I' sorry to bust your bubble guys but WiMo will no longer support resistive touchscreens (such as the one our TD2s have) and will thus not be able to run on the TD2 at all.
I'm pretty sure there is nothing even our chefs can do about that.
also, drivers will be a problem, since there'll be no WP7 device with Topaz hardware specifications. i'm sure some daring guys will try to port, but it will never work like a stock rom is suppose to. hope i'm wrong.
looks like im going to use the android port when shadowline finishes it then
Windows Phone 7 (user interface "METRO") preview...
Anybody know what is the mobile type in this video?
I have to say it looks incredible. It's an exceptionally clean and integrated UI, I like how they're playing nice with Gmail, Facebook etc and I'm hoping there's twitter and flickr support and the like.
I remember seeing some crummy looking Windows Mobile 7 "leaked" screenshots a few months ago... they must have been deliberately planting these to throw people off the scent becuase they are nothing like this new UI. They did a hell of a job keeping it under wraps! From dondragonka's video you can see it already looks pretty polished and fast. Impressive!
But I wonder about some of the key things I rely on with my Topaz, like spbWallet and iGo.. the app support would want to be just as slick as the UI.
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I have to say it looks incredible. It's an exceptionally clean and integrated UI, I like how they're playing nice with Gmail, Facebook etc and I'm hoping there's twitter and flickr support and the like.
I remember seeing some crummy looking Windows Mobile 7 "leaked" screenshots a few months ago... they must have been deliberately planting these to throw people off the scent becuase they are nothing like this new UI. They did a hell of a job keeping it under wraps! From dondragonka's video you can see it already looks pretty polished and fast. Impressive!
But I wonder about some of the key things I rely on with my Topaz, like spbWallet and iGo.. the app support would want to be just as slick as the UI.
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those photo's u saw were prolly "photon". it was an early development of winmo7 which they scrapped for what you now see.
I'm definitely looking forward to root and ROMs being ported to the G2. I have been using custom ROMs like Cyanogen's mod for quite some time now on my G1, and now that I am without; it has become blatantly obvious that it's the little things that transform quality products into luxury products. Thanks to everyone's work, we are watching the definition of luxury in the making. With every new technology that comes out, and every new line of code the developers and awesome community coders write we are watching the evolution of our devices progress. Can't wait to see how this great phone will fly once I get it away from stock. I'm already interested in the new things that are slowly being discovered about it. As some sit and complain that they aren't getting what they paid for, others are going on an adventure finding out whatever they can from a new product. Its like a giant puzzle that people all over the world are working together to figure out. How interesting it would be if they actually took advantage of situations like this and all the energy that follows them to create fully immersive viral advertising campaigns. I mean everyone who is following the developments of the G2 are putting so much emotion into it all. Whether it's positive or negative we are watching the community come together as a whole, and it's pretty amazing. Whether or not there really are lasting issues with the memory or other parts of the phone, I am enjoying the dynamic of our teamwork to figure it all out.
I'm right there with you bro. This phone will have crazy developer support, I can't wait to see what happens. Things can only get better especially with support from cyanogen.
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I kind of agree. I'm more annoyed that rooting is the only way to get screenshot/wifi tether privileges..
If those two things were incorporated already (booooo Google & T-Mobile) I probably wouldn't root. I find android pleasantly customizable even without the theming options.
you can capture screen shots without root
i followed the instructions at this link (for the Droid) and works great
you'll need to download the SDK developers kit and the Java developers kit but they're both linked in the instructions and your phone will have to be connected to your PC, but once you've done the download, you'll end up with a shortcut icon on your desktop taking you straight to the screen capture function screen
and shot you see below is a capture of my GPS maps with satellite image layered
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-capture-screenshots-with-your-android-mobile-phone/
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you can capture screen shots without root
i followed the instructions at this link (for the Droid) and works great
you'll need to download the SDK developers kit and the Java developers kit but they're both linked in the instructions
and shot you see below is a capture of my GPS maps with satellite image layered
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-capture-screenshots-with-your-android-mobile-phone/
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Obviously I meant without using a computer and having to use the SDK. That's a lot more hassle than it should be.
once we have tablets with USB we should be able to put sdk on them(hopefully) and play with our toys using our other toys
sinistersai4d4d said:
I kind of agree. I'm more annoyed that rooting is the only way to get screenshot/wifi tether privileges..
If those two things were incorporated already (booooo Google & T-Mobile) I probably wouldn't root. I find android pleasantly customizable even without the theming options.
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It's actually all T-Mobile's fault, not Google's. T-Mobile would never let its users have that feature for free.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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It's actually all T-Mobile's fault, not Google's. T-Mobile would never let its users have that feature for free.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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WEll I was blaming Google for the Screen Shot limitation... but yeah.
Its very cool..you get WINK notifications and can set up shortcuts aka 'tasks' that you can control from your WEAR device.
However mine seems to 'lose' the WINK shortcuts every time i restart my phone or exit the WINK app on my phone. I'm hoping this is just a software issue that is being worked on.
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We at CastleOS will be releasing on Android Wear support soon. The Wink app is pretty limited. Our app includes the ability to adjust lighting, thermostats, activate and deactivate scenes, and check sensor status. And best of all, everything is automatic, you don't need to manually create anything like shortcuts. Just install CastleOS from the Play store and you're good to go! CastleOS works with INSTEON, Z-Wave, UPB, X10, WeMo, Nest, Sonos, Ecobee, LightwaveRF, and more!
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We at CastleOS will be releasing on Android Wear support soon. The Wink app is pretty limited. Our app includes the ability to adjust lighting, thermostats, activate and deactivate scenes, and check sensor status. And best of all, everything is automatic, you don't need to manually create anything like shortcuts. Just install CastleOS from the Play store and you're good to go! CastleOS works with INSTEON, Z-Wave, UPB, X10, WeMo, Nest, Sonos, Ecobee, LightwaveRF, and more!
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thats awesome! i just downloaded your app. Now the real question is how many of my home automatoin devices will it work with? I have
- 2 GE link lightbulbs
- myq chamberlain garage door opener
- schlage z wave deadbolt
- 2 8580 honeywell wifi thermostats
nyvram1 said:
thats awesome! i just downloaded your app. Now the real question is how many of my home automatoin devices will it work with? I have
- 2 GE link lightbulbs
- myq chamberlain garage door opener
- schlage z wave deadbolt
- 2 8580 honeywell wifi thermostats
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Oh the irony. We support dozens upon dozens (maybe hundreds) of more devices than Wink does, yet none of your devices are currently supported You'll have to wait for the December/January releases for those. We currently support the Z-Wave Honeywell thermostats, but not the WiFi ones yet (we had been waiting for the official API). GE Link is still new and we are in the process of building the interface for that, though we currently support INSTEON and Z-Wave bulbs, WeMo bulbs if they ever launch them, and Philips Hue color changing bulbs. Sorry about that, it will be worth the wait I promise!
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Oh the irony. We support dozens upon dozens (maybe hundreds) of more devices than Wink does, yet none of your devices are currently supported You'll have to wait for the December/January releases for those. We currently support the Z-Wave Honeywell thermostats, but not the WiFi ones yet (we had been waiting for the official API). GE Link is still new and we are in the process of building the interface for that, though we currently support INSTEON and Z-Wave bulbs, WeMo bulbs if they ever launch them, and Philips Hue color changing bulbs. Sorry about that, it will be worth the wait I promise!
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I'll save everyone the trouble of downloading their useless app. Not only do they lack the support stated above, but they also want $199 for the "OS" and $499 for their oversized hub... ha