is there a palm sms threader for the sprint touch? - Touch CDMA General

hey just wanted to know if there is a palm sms threader for the touch? or does the one for the titan work?

There is one, search for: shogunmark_wm6_threaded
It works great
Here is the link, to save you the search time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=Threaded+SMS

yea it does work pretty good but i think thats the one i had on the titan wasnt sure if it was gonna work on the touch thanks alot bro

hey i dont know if your having this problem but it doesnt notify me when i get a text like it tells me on the screen i got one but it doesnt make any sounds... is there a fix for this?

I use ringo, and it works fine for me, the volume is up i'm assuming?

if you didn't know this already, you have to specifically set a sound for the Palm Messaging App. try Start->Settings->Sounds & Notifications->Notifications Tab, scroll and select "Messaging: New Message (Palm)" and then select the sound you want to play when a text message received via the Palm app.

I used this same app on my Wizard way back and loved it. I couldn't live without it once I tried it. Last I heard it is supposed to be compatible with ALL WM6 devices so it should work fine with the Touch.

yea it works now i had to pick a sound for it lol i feel stupid now but now the other problem is that when i bring up the touch keyboard with the t9 it doesnt show me the words i could choose from... they stay at the bottom so i have to bring the keyboard up and down all the time... is there a way to fix that?

xtkxhom3r said:
yea it works now i had to pick a sound for it lol i feel stupid now but now the other problem is that when i bring up the touch keyboard with the t9 it doesnt show me the words i could choose from... they stay at the bottom so i have to bring the keyboard up and down all the time... is there a way to fix that?
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I don't think so, I wish there was.... I use the Full Screen Keyboard, once you start sending messages, you'll get used to not seeing the words....

i hope that we can custom the Keyboard to go up an 1 inch so we can see what we doing.

Thats what i asked in another thread...a automatic resize, like what it does in pocket ie, its not a big deal to me anymore, i'm used to it...

When getting rid of this app. It takes away the orginal Text Messages. Anyway to bring them back with out backing up phone?

Sms Thread
Guys, you should do a search for pocketCM. Is is really good and do a lot more than what you are looking for.

Well I have tried that. But cant seem to get it to work corectly on my HTC VOUGE

Ny only complaint to the threaded sms is not seeing what im typing. Loved it on my mogul though

MMS..does it work????
hey guys,
ive asked this in other threads but no reply. can someone tell me if this app allows you to use mms. according to the other threads, everybody is having problems sending and receiving mms. can we use this app solely for the threaded sms part and THEN USE ppcgeeks mms app. will that solve the trick??? plz let me know. i have a sprint touch. thanks alot guys!
currently using pocketcm v.18 also. is there any incompatiblity issues if use this threaded app as well????

i was just about to ask this, i need to find a solution to this!

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Chat Style SMS?

Hi!
Sorry if this is not the right sub forum. I am trying to look for a program for my trinity wm 6 that can transform our sms system to a chat style ( i.e. iphone like) I have tried pocketcm and threader program.. but they cannot replace the quickness and reliability of the native windows sms program.. can anyone point me to the right direction? thanks before...
SMS Chat Style
Hi,
I use the program shogunmark rip from a treo (I think).
Works great.
Is this any different or better than Codyppc's threaded SMS?
Search on here for IMSMS. You will be amazed what that can do.
WB
IMSMS looks very snazzy. I may have to give that a try! Thanks for the heads up!!
jhendrickson said:
Is this any different or better than Codyppc's threaded SMS?
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codyppc's doesn't work reliably. Don't know about this one but it probably has the same problems since they were ripped from the same device and hacked to WM6.
Hmm, I had immediate issues with IMSMS and subsequently went back to Codyppc's. Perhaps I should mess around with IMSMS some more, but I really haven't had an issue with Codyppc's app.
Had problem with IMSMS...cannot receive sms at all.
wm6 threaded is better, buthas small bug. When you are typing a message, you cannot see what you are writting, because the keypad cover it up.
Where I can find Codyppc's threaded SMS?
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=139379
Hi guys.. have tried all the apps above and i find that threaded is actually really good! BUT one thing that's really annoying and almost makes it unussable is that using the trinity when u write a msg in the chat window.. the line's get completely covered with the SIP and you don't know what you're writing... is there a way to hack this program? or has someone did it already? i went back using pocketcm's sms and whenever i send a msg.. have to exit out of pocketcm and back to to windows messaging for the msg to be delivered.. o you guys have the same problems with the two apps? i can't believe that our wm devices can't do iphone style sms without a glitch..
I encountered the same probelm with you bluesky3012......now I just using standard message application.
In personal, I like palm messaging so much...but as bluesky3012' said...it has bug
It isn't a "bug". That is the way it works. It wasnt designed for our phones. It is a RIP from the PALM phone and the Palm phones have a different display method than ours.
so there's no way of having a threaded sms with no glitch in our trinity? so sad.. i'm sticking to pocketcm for now but it tooks up almost 5mb of memory if i just minimize the apps..
grizzley said:
It isn't a "bug". That is the way it works. It wasnt designed for our phones. It is a RIP from the PALM phone and the Palm phones have a different display method than ours.
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Actually, it has lots of other bugs. So unreliable when sending and receiving.
grizzley said:
It isn't a "bug". That is the way it works. It wasnt designed for our phones. It is a RIP from the PALM phone and the Palm phones have a different display method than ours.
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I dont recall the text field being covered when I used my Mogul and wanted to send a quick message without using the slide out keyboard.
nonegiven said:
Actually, it has lots of other bugs. So unreliable when sending and receiving.
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I only had one issue using the threaded sms app on a device it was built for (700wx) and that was with duplicate messages being sent out. A fix was released, but it wasn't directly related to the threaded sms application.
Now that it has been ported to other WM5/WM6 devices, some have encountered issues which isn't surprising considering how much hacking Palm did with the OS in the Treos.
I use the WM6 version pulled from a WM6 Treo 750 on my Mogul and I don't personally have any issues with it. I do know that others do though.
stroths said:
I use the WM6 version pulled from a WM6 Treo 750 on my Mogul and I don't personally have any issues with it. I do know that others do though.
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Where can I get the version you are running?
TheJeet said:
Hey you should try out Vito SMS chat....it quite a nice program...but...it saves all your SMSs into a diffrent folder....but besides that....it quite nice...best app i'v found for SMS....go try....BUT DONT YOU DARE BUY IT ! just try it out from vito tech,if you like it...just try to find a cracked version...there are surely alot....so don't worry !
if you bought it....i feel sad for you...$19.90 if im not mistaken...not worth it....
anyways...good luck...
just incase you didnt find any....i have it here...but this is the older version...newer one is much better...
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WAREZ
Remove it now!
TheJeet said:
Hey you should try out Vito SMS chat....it quite a nice program...but...it saves all your SMSs into a diffrent folder....but besides that....it quite nice...best app i'v found for SMS....go try....BUT DONT YOU DARE BUY IT ! just try it out from vito tech,if you like it...just try to find a cracked version...there are surely alot....so don't worry !
if you bought it....i feel sad for you...$19.90 if im not mistaken...not worth it....
anyways...good luck...
just incase you didnt find any....i have it here...but this is the older version...newer one is much better...
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Might wanna remove your attachment. XDA has a zero tolerance policy on WAREZ and it will get you banned real fast...
Here is a great cab I used back when I was on wm6.
It was developed by Triangle powers before they got shut down( or whatever happened to them).
Enjoy,
dwizzy130

Vito vs Palm Threaded SMS

Which one do you prefer? Or is better? Please state your reason
thanks!
For me, WM6.1 SMS threading wins this one. Unfortunately, not everyone can experience WM6.1 on their phones..
Reasons:
1. It's integrated/built-in the OS (not 3rd party).
2. You can click on the name of the sender and get options.
3. Automatic truncation of long threads (saves memory and avoids longer load times)
4. Flick and scroll support for TouchFLO devices.
CONS:
1. Simple GUI (but that could be a PRO too if you're minimalistic and wants everything simple and fast).
palm sms.. its quicker then 6.1 sms threading. its better. its better..and its better
my reason is native program for sms not memory usage.
I've only used palm and pocketcm but I honestly haven't liked either one, I don't like how pocketcm is integrated with the contacts, if it was just a standalone threaded sms then maybe I would like it more, expecially since it has themes and I didn't like the palm threaded for a couple small reasons, like even if the phone is on silent it still vibrates if the message is open, you have to scroll up after you went down to find someone to text, and a couple small reasons along those lines. But Im hoping to get 6.1 some day.
i believe there is a cab for wm6.1 sms ....along side of wm6.1 sms..does it work with the touch? since it has no keyboard...only touchscreen buttons...with palm sms...it blocks what you type..
contentryder said:
i believe there is a cab for wm6.1 sms ....along side of wm6.1 sms..does it work with the touch? since it has no keyboard...only touchscreen buttons...with palm sms...it blocks what you type..
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I have been searching for one for weeks! If you can find one, please post it here. There was even a thread about it, but nobody had the cab.
here you will find one!!!!
http://iwindowsmobile.com/contact-manager.html
oddball1 said:
here you will find one!!!!
http://iwindowsmobile.com/contact-manager.html
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That one looks good, but like I said I want one where it is ONLY the threaded sms, no contacts or anything, and Yeah if there is a link to 6.1 threaded that would be awesome.
Why is it so hard for someone to extract the 6.1 threaded msg app?? I'll pay for it...someone just do it.
Charles: said:
Why is it so hard for someone to extract the 6.1 threaded msg app?? I'll pay for it...someone just do it.
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Don't think it's that easy, if not there would be one by now.
Either wait or upgrade to custom firmware 6.1 if your handset have one.
Has anybody had any problems installing the palm threaded cab? I tried it today and whilst it seemed to install ok after installing I could not find the app anywhere to use.
ekin101 said:
Don't think it's that easy, if not there would be one by now.
Either wait or upgrade to custom firmware 6.1 if your handset have one.
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They extracted the Palm SMS from WM5/6. Can't see it being that much harder. Still, I don't think anyone's even tried. I've yet to hear someone give a reasonable excuse as to why it's not been done yet.
Charles: said:
Why is it so hard for someone to extract the 6.1 threaded msg app?? I'll pay for it...someone just do it.
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I second that. I'd chip in like $5 or $10 to get it ripped. I just want integrated threaded SMS (not Palm SMS).
I'll try and find the files. I think that they are integrated into the shell though, so it might be difficult to install them as a cab.
palm messenger
i noticed key lag when usin the integrated threaded sms 6...maybe thats just my tytnii
bump please.
Charles: said:
They extracted the Palm SMS from WM5/6. Can't see it being that much harder. Still, I don't think anyone's even tried. I've yet to hear someone give a reasonable excuse as to why it's not been done yet.
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I've never posted here because I respect the hard work that goes on, by a bunch of very talented people, enough to do as the description of this board suggests and not post because I am not a 'developer or die hard techie'....
But.....
That post dude! Bang out of order.... If its that easy then please feel free to come up with your own solution, then you can trot back here and post all you want. Please dont stamp your feet and demand results with stuff like "I've yet to hear a reasonable EXCUSE" and remember that most of these guys are doing this for pocket money at the most and totally free at the least.
If I've miss-interpreted what you've said and you are a developer then accept my apologies but I know which horse my money's on!
So how do you guys like the VITO SMS-Chat anyways? I have the 6.1 threaded SMS and I wanna see if the SMS-Chat will be better (or at least flashier)

SMSThreading - Speed problem!

I've used allmost every registry hack available to increase the speed of TouchFlo.. And I has worked.
Just not the Text Messaging. When i scroll over to the tab messages, I can see my messages and scroll through them.
No speed problem here. But it is when I wan't to ANSWER to a message, and I press on the message,
It takes 5 seconds before the keypad appears and another 5 seconds before the actual "typing box" appears where I can't see our "SMS conversation"
How do I increase the speed? WITHOUT disabling SMSThreading.
Doesn't anyone have a solution to this problem?
i've also noticed this, and at times there is a 1/2 second delay when typing, the characters taking a wee while to appear on screen as you type. Its irritating, but thats about all. would be nice if someone did have some way of speeding up sms, its the main function on the phone for me.
Cheers
how to forward sms in touch diamond
hi all, first i have to thnk u all for this wonderful work done in making such fantastic softwares.
i needed to know how can i be able to forward sms from my phone. i hv a htc touch diamond wt me. also i wld like to know is, the sms funda here in htc touch diamond is all different from nokia series phones? here its a messenger which creates a chat session n not a dedicated sms application
nitinbarve said:
hi all, first i have to thnk u all for this wonderful work done in making such fantastic softwares.
i needed to know how can i be able to forward sms from my phone. i hv a htc touch diamond wt me. also i wld like to know is, the sms funda here in htc touch diamond is all different from nokia series phones? here its a messenger which creates a chat session n not a dedicated sms application
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You can forward messages by using the DPAD up to highlight the message you want to forward, and hit the right soft key(options?) and hit forward.
hey thx in advance for this prompt reply.. but can you me more elaborative...
i tried the option gvn by you but smhw seems that the FORWARD option never highlights...plz help me out in sorting this issue..

Speech Text Messaging?

Ok, so my city recently passed a huge ban on cell phone use while driving. I know I can have my phone reac any new message to me wehn it is received and I currently have it set up to do so. However, I have heard of other phone coming with a speech to text feature. Is there a wway to get something like this on the TPS where I can speak the reply to a text and be able to send it that way?
I don't know of any specific apps that do this, but I'm sure they're out there considering Bling and Google Maps have this technology.
I dont recomend trying to text while driving & dont like applications where you use voice commands but you should try this one
Code:
http://vitotechnology.com/voice2go.html
(not free but you could try the tial) it lets you control your whole phone by voice and you could add custom commands but im not sure if you could set it up to reply to sms.
ps: by the way nice to see another member from el paso
jdep1 said:
I dont recomend trying to text while driving & dont like applications where you use voice commands but you should try this one
Code:
http://vitotechnology.com/voice2go.html
(not free but you could try the tial) it lets you control your whole phone by voice and you could add custom commands but im not sure if you could set it up to reply to sms.
ps: by the way nice to see another member from el paso
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Thanks for this...I will give it a shot. Not only is it nice to see another member from ELP but also nice to see another person with a TP2!!! I have only seen a couple here in town!
This would be a very cool feature! I am interested in this also. Can anybody help out with this?
microsoft tell me
i had it on my phone ported from i think a samsung device.
it didnt fit too well with the screen resolution and whatnot, but it worked.
although it doesn't work if you have an accent or if you want to send messages to someone who has a rather unusual name
i went to a At&T store for help with something with a friend, he had and still has a verizon blackberry curve but anyways one of the associates there had a blackberry and showed him a whole buch of apps he got from a certian website (dont remember what it was) and one of them was a talk to text app and it work almost perfectly. ive been searcing for an app like that for windows mobile ever since then and that was almost 2 yrs ago!!!! i also just found out a few days ago from my girlfriend that theres a app like that for her iphone. i seriously dont know what microsoft is doin but they need to step their game up and to all the developers out there, you need to beat them to the punch!!!
Read email to you - what app?
What app are you using to have your HTC read email to you?
miked79928 said:
Ok, so my city recently passed a huge ban on cell phone use while driving. I know I can have my phone reac any new message to me wehn it is received and I currently have it set up to do so. However, I have heard of other phone coming with a speech to text feature. Is there a wway to get something like this on the TPS where I can speak the reply to a text and be able to send it that way?
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bparent said:
What app are you using to have your HTC read email to you?
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He's talking about having the built-in MSVC read new SMS messages to him
sirphunkee said:
He's talking about having the built-in MSVC read new SMS messages to him
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Didn't pick up on the SMS part. Looking for an app to read/speak email messages(non-SMS). Especially, would be nice to be able to filter by sender, subject, etc.
Ok, so I found a few cabs for TellMe, but they all crash shortly after launching. Any ideas?
im interested in this tell me app so someone respond to miked79928 please!!!
antny said:
im interested in this tell me app so someone respond to miked79928 please!!!
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I use TellMeText Version 1.1.0 on my Rhodium Touch Pro 2. It installs and works okay. If the installation crashes, the best thing is to redownload it until it works fine. Also try the app on different ROMS.
I have used it on ARK_N's ROMS as well as on Leo Cell ROMS.
Make sure (I think) you install BlondieSoft_MobileCertificates cab prior to the intallation of the TellMeText cab.
Hopefully this should help.
Why not sooner.
If someone can rip the install from the Samsung Intrepid I think we can get something going.
The only other option is Vlingo and it is buggy at best, you can search the forums and people have had spotty success with it.
This could be a real difference breaker at this point in time in the Mobile Phone wars, I don't know why someone hasn't jumped on it and capitalized, tons of apps already use voice recognition (bing, google) for driving directions, I don't know why in a world where people are dieing left and right from txting while driving someone hasn't jumped on this.
antny said:
im interested in this tell me app so someone respond to miked79928 please!!!
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dude it doesn't make sense why your phone does that, i use it all the time and it never gives me problems and its such a great app.
maddb said:
dude it doesn't make sense why your phone does that, i use it all the time and it never gives me problems and its such a great app.
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The tell me ap works for some and not for others.. I believe it has something to do with the carrier you are with. That said.. you guys are probably better of going over to the tell me thread and reading through that to figure out how to get it working on your phone. I personally gave up. It would install fine on multiple roms I was running and as soon as I would to go speak a text to it it would just hang then give me some error.
Regardless... no sense in having multiple threads about the same thing!
Do a search in the Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps forum and you'll find it.
miked79928 said:
Ok, so I found a few cabs for TellMe, but they all crash shortly after launching. Any ideas?
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do you mind postin the cabs bro? i wanna see if i get the same results
TellMe does not work for AT&T customers on their network on anything but BlackBerry. I ran a packet trace and the packets leave the phone but there is NO response.
WiFi works fine but how often are you on WiFi on the go?
You need to install microsoft voice command FIRST then this. Just search, the cabs are posted.
hx4700 Killer said:
TellMe does not work for AT&T customers on their network on anything but BlackBerry. I ran a packet trace and the packets leave the phone but there is NO response.
WiFi works fine but how often are you on WiFi on the go?
You need to install microsoft voice command FIRST then this. Just search, the cabs are posted.
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wait so i have to get the voice command then find the tellme cab??? im confused haha
sirphunkee said:
He's talking about having the built-in MSVC read new SMS messages to him
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OK, I must be missing where to find this on my TP2.

[Q] Sms sent lag, HELP

Hello all, I have a big issue with this tilt 2 and that is the sms sent and pressing "X" to go back in the inbox of sms messages, it lags for a good 10-20 and sometimes the whole screen would freeze up because of this.
So I recently bought a tilt 2 and the seller told me he flashed it to a new rom which whenever I turn the phone on, it says Energy Rom so does anyone have a solution to this sms sent lag other than deleting all text messages daily, please help!
Thank you all in advance for your time and suggestions!
Sending a TXT isn't instant... it takes a little bit to log in, transmit, and finish sending the TXT message.. that is most likely the 10-20 sec of "lag" you are experiancing... I use the Energy line of roms myself... and I feel they are the best over all roms out there... period.
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Sending a TXT isn't instant... it takes a little bit to log in, transmit, and finish sending the TXT message.. that is most likely the 10-20 sec of "lag" you are experiancing... I use the Energy line of roms myself... and I feel they are the best over all roms out there... period.
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And it has nothing to do with the crappy htc sms client? come on it isn't normal that you have to wait 10-20 seconds when you send a sms.
Lennyz1988 said:
And it has nothing to do with the crappy htc sms client? come on it isn't normal that you have to wait 10-20 seconds when you send a sms.
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I'd have to agree. A SMS is about 1/7th of a kilobyte and a kilobyte is practically nothing. Sending a SMS doesn't cause a lag. I've been sending SMS since 1998 and WM wasn't even an option back then. It's all Microsoft and their crap OS.
I have to agree, it is the crappy htc sms client to blame, so I'm guessing noone have found a solution to this yet? Have you guys tried to hotfix from htc site?
I owned the tilt 1 and there was no lag at all in sms.
Ok, this is going to sound stupid but I'm not familiar with these types of ROM, such as Energy Rom. Is that the same as Manila 2.5? Or are they completely different?
Girli3e said:
Ok, this is going to sound stupid but I'm not familiar with these types of ROM, such as Energy Rom. Is that the same as Manila 2.5? Or are they completely different?
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I can help you picking a rom and flashing, just pm me
Its hard to belive that you guys are gaetting that much lag,im running stock everything WM6.5,ive checked speeds with various people and the most i get is 5seconds of lag.
of course if i have running apps,and im not overclocked it hesitates a little..
Outlaw78a said:
Its hard to belive that you guys are gaetting that much lag,im running stock everything WM6.5,ive checked speeds with various people and the most i get is 5seconds of lag.
of course if i have running apps,and im not overclocked it hesitates a little..
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And what version of sense do you use? 2.1?
@ Lennyz1988
I tried to PM you, are you getting my messages?
Can you help me please
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@ Lennyz1988
I tried to PM you, are you getting my messages?
Can you help me please
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What Exactly Do You Need Help With?
Maybe I Could Try To Help You.
I am attempting to change the interface on my tilt 2 to android or something else so the sms in threaded mode won't lag and plus im tired of the WinMo appearance. =)
Thank you for your time!
Hi I have the same problem as you and it drives me crazy. tell me if im correct: You are complaining about the fact that after you press x to close a threaded text conversation it lags getting back to the inbox. On mine everything changes back to the inbox except for the top of the screen and then it just sits there till it eventually goes bqck. Your not reffering to how long it takes for you friend to receive the text, correct? Ive tired installing the most current sms program from htc that was taking from another phone and although it looked much niicer and had some cool features it didnt work right and i had to switch back. Maybe somone reading this can suggest something. It sdriving me crazy. as far as changing from the windows look which either you mean what they call titanium which is that homescreen where you have everything in alist and you can scroll up and own through it or do you you mean what they call touch flo or sense where you move along the bottom of the screen through tabs? either way i would highly recomend spb mobile shell which will make your phone similar to android layout. It works great and is reqally easy to customize everything. or at least touch flo/sense with what they call cookies home tab which helps you customize your home screen. Let me know whcih one you have and which one you want and ill help you. I dont know how to program but i do know how to use the phone well, and customize it thanks to all the developers here who provide us with so much to do it with.
@ swaters3, yes that is exactly the probably with sms, it takes forever to go back to inbox screen and it freezes up. I'm not should what layout I have but its WinMo and the previously owner changed the rom the Energy Rom, if that matters. As for the Android layout, I heard I can do a dual boot where I can keep both WinMo and Android on the tilt 2. I was thinking, if I can boot to android that the sms will function right. As of now, I am still stuck with tilt 2 lagging sms threaded mode. Frustrating.
Do you hava a lot of sms or e-mail saved on the phone? That can cause it to bog down.
Yeah, but I originally owned the tilt 1 and had over 4,000 text message and encounter no problem sending out text messages.
Girli3e said:
@ swaters3, yes that is exactly the probably with sms, it takes forever to go back to inbox screen and it freezes up. I'm not should what layout I have but its WinMo and the previously owner changed the rom the Energy Rom, if that matters. As for the Android layout, I heard I can do a dual boot where I can keep both WinMo and Android on the tilt 2. I was thinking, if I can boot to android that the sms will function right. As of now, I am still stuck with tilt 2 lagging sms threaded mode. Frustrating.
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i wish someone could help us with the lag, lately ive just learnt to be patient, though that is a little ridiculous. There is a sms program from htc (thecompany that makes the phone) that is much nicer and did not have the lag. I did have some other issues but maybe it will work for you. Search in xda for updated htc sms app and see if you can find it. as far as anroid goes I am trying to get mine to work properly and have still not got it to connect to sprint. Its a work in progress and not everything works so i dont think you would want to switch to it permanently. Give it a shot though its very cool and gets better every few days. As of know I think the camera is still not working but most everything else is. I would recomend spb mobile shell. watch some videos on youtube although you will be able to customize it yourself completely. Youll need to play with it to figure out how to customize it but its pretty easy just drag and drop type of stuff with anything on the phone. It looks and works like android but youll still be suing windows mobile. Its works great for me and i wouldnt be able to keep this phone if not for it. I hope that helps.

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