Hi all,
It is for quite some time now that i am looking for a hebrew localization pack for my Universal and apparently there is no cheep solution for that. (well there is a 130$ one but it is too expensive for me...) .
I've searched the net for a cheep solution but it seems that all software companies that develop these kind of localization do not know all about Hebrew and thus i get a software that write in mirror like way and some more little things (like no hebrew Email/sms support, no hebrew on PIE etc...).
all i want is to be able to send/recieve emails/sms and have the hebrew keboard layout (in addition to the english one) so that i can write documents or sms/emails (PIE is less important to me ) - in the right hebrew direction (right to left).
I am looking for someone able to give me some guidelines on how to start this project of hebrew localization - if i will finnish this, i will share it freely. i look for no profit.
thank you all who can help me.
Hi Yol!
As I understand it Hebrew is a 'right to left' language, a functionality which Windows Mobile does not support. (unlike it's big brother where it is built in).
Now it's a noble idea you have to create a free version, but I suspect there is a reason software companies charge as much as they do without going out of business.
Basically, any localization has 3 parts:
1) keyboard - that's relatively easy. It's just a DLL that implements a COM object. There is an article on this at www.pocketpcdn.com with code sample. Look under 'SIP' (Software Input Panel).
2) The interface or MUI's - these are DLL's that contain the interface resources in your language. You can create those from a ROM dump using Visual Studio or any other resource editor. Search for Asukal's posts on this forum, he is an expert at this.
3) This is the tricky part - for a language that works right to left you need to reverse the system input and output of text somehow. This is something beyond my level of programming sorry.
Well hope that starts you off. By the way do you have much experience in programing? This sounds like a really ambitious undertaking. 8)
Good luck!
hebrew for qtek
www.eyron.net
works perfect with my qtek 9000
Hi all,
It is for quite some time now that i am looking for a hebrew localization pack for my Universal and apparently there is no cheep solution for that. (well there is a 130$ one but it is too expensive for me...) .
I've searched the net for a cheep solution but it seems that all software companies that develop these kind of localization do not know all about Hebrew and thus i get a software that write in mirror like way and some more little things (like no hebrew Email/sms support, no hebrew on PIE etc...).
all i want is to be able to send/recieve emails/sms and have the hebrew keboard layout (in addition to the english one) so that i can write documents or sms/emails (PIE is less important to me ) - in the right hebrew direction (right to left).
I am looking for someone able to give me some guidelines on how to start this project of hebrew localization - if i will finnish this, i will share it freely. i look for no profit.
thank you all who can help me.
hebrew
best solution: http://www.eyron.net/
(1 week try for free).
works perfect with my qtek 9000
even cheaper:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=5498
you might also try: P.D.A.C. which also has Hebrew for mobile devices (the site is: http://www.wince.co.il/). BTW - I bought it for approx. 230-50 shekels (shop was cheaper than the site!)
Although I have to add that I actually had it installed by Handy (mobile devices shop in Tel Aviv) - who are pretty experienced with Hebrew on mobile devices, but it didn't work well (mirror hebrew, IMEI # disappeared...), when I had to reinstall it after a Hard Reset of my device - so eventually I got a refund.
I am told that Eyron works much the same way (i.e. there is no real difference between the two), but the PDAC support team are considered more responsive; which I experienced 1st hand: when I tried to install the eyron trial, I wanted to ask them a couple of technical questions - I did so in a couple of emails - but NEVER received any reply back.
bottom line is I have no definitive answer as to which prog. to use. Another factor may be th ROM you use on the device. After I update mine I'll attempt this again... write here if you have any new info.
well,
Thank you Magicuser and techdot,
I did try Eyron's UI but it took me too many hardresets and i also had to speak to their support by phone untill they found a version that worked on my XDA EXEC. bottom line - they are too expensive and the software made my device slower...
I also have been in contact with PDAC but they do not have an evaluation software, their reply to me said that if i wish i can come to their offices, have them install their software on my device but soon as i leave they would hardreset (!!!) my device to get it all off....personaly i'm against this as i think i should have the possibility to evaluate before i buy.
I did make a mistake with Ectaco language support - i bought it befor i evaluated it properly and now i have problems with them - the hebrew keyboard dont seem to load up, i have no hebrew on sms/emails (send or recieve) and i also have no hebrew on PIE...
this why i am looking for my own solution for a minimal hebrew support (keyboard, sms/emai send/recieve, PIE - in good and not mirrorized right to left way)...
I bought the PDAC solution for my MioA201 (WM5) and it works very well, although it has an over complex security installation routine.
I have not tried it on the Exec. If you tell PDAC what PDA you have and ask them if they would refund if it doesn't work. I am sure they would respond +vely to this
rgds
The thing is, i would like to try it befor i decide do pay money for it.
and i think 250NIS is too much for a rather simple feature (heberw keyboard, send/recieve hebrew sms/email and optional hebrew support for PIE), which i dont understand why Microsoft does not provide for free (like when you buy win XP for desktop pc).
the other alternative is you find a hebrew firmware upgrade for the exec. There is one for the Typhoon, but not sure about the Universal. Cellcom support HTC products and they might have a hebrew firmware so you should call them, but I have not heard about it. Its all a case of supply and demand, there is probably not a critical mass of Universal users in Israel for HTC to bother. I know there is a critical mass for the Typhoon and Hebrew firmware is available.
The useful thing about PDAC is that if you buy a new PDA you can transfer the software. Whereas if it was firmware you would have to start the hunt again. It is frustrating that they don't have a trial version. Although I think the asking cost is quite low for this type of software.
rgds
colonel said:
the other alternative is you find a hebrew firmware upgrade for the exec. There is one for the Typhoon, but not sure about the Universal.
rgds
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Any idea where can I find this hebrew firmware for the Typhoon?
Thanks!
I am also looking for a simple hebrew test support. My Brother lives in Israel ,and he got hold of version 5 of Eyron, and installed it on an MDA Vario (which I gave him for his b-Day) and he says it works but slows the system down.
I beleive that with Windows Mobile 2003 all you had to do is import the Hebrew Fonts...
So if anyone comes up with a solution I would much oblige
I shall also see If I can get hold of the Hebrew support my BRO is using, but the software is cracked so I am not sure I will be allowed to post that here. ????Moderator??
Yol said:
The thing is, i would like to try it befor i decide do pay money for it.
and i think 250NIS is too much for a rather simple feature (heberw keyboard, send/recieve hebrew sms/email and optional hebrew support for PIE), which i dont understand why Microsoft does not provide for free (like when you buy win XP for desktop pc).
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While this does appear like a simple feature to ask for, It implies that the Operating System (Or layered service) should inherently support bi-directional text display, as well as bi-directional Input.
BTW: AFAIK, starting from WM6 (OS 5.2.317 & up) the OS uses Unicode Fonts, so hebrew IS displayed without any third party software needed.
ChesWiz said:
While this does appear like a simple feature to ask for, It implies that the Operating System (Or layered service) should inherently support bi-directional text display, as well as bi-directional Input.
BTW: AFAIK, starting from WM6 (OS 5.2.317 & up) the OS uses Unicode Fonts, so hebrew IS displayed without any third party software needed.
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yeah, but it's displayed backwards - no bidi suport.
I am using english wm6 rom and I can hardly find any t9 input method, which is the stroke input method in many chinese mobile device, for this version of windows mobile.
i prefer neither cd-star nor monster coz they are not stable and slow down the system. is there any stand alone SIP cab file available?
Hi, I was looking around and finally found this:
http://blog.g4team.com/?page_id=339
It is by far, the best that I've seen in terms of providing the ability to read Chinese Traditional, Simplified, and Japanese as well as inputting those languages. No registry tweaking necessary as Leies has already packed everything you need into cabs.
Be warned though, the "Enlarge Start Menu" utility will not work with it.
Specifically,
http://blog.g4team.com/?p=64
this will give you keyboard support for chinese input. No need for T9 when you have full keyboard available.
Wanna know which software can provide support to Chinese display and input on a Pharos..
I'd like to try the English version ROM here but still, need Chinese..
WM can display by itself
All you need to do is add the fonts. You can look at this solution to explain how to add the fonts to the registry.
For an IME/SIP, I suggest A4 or TouchPal.
There is also Hanwang for handwriting recognition. I haven't used it since I can't write.
One other small thing - make sure that your documents in My Documents have ascii names. In my case, Activesync choked on the Unicode filenames.
Display solution is for WM5.0. Is there any for WM6?
Thanks
cestar can meet your request
yeah i have installed the CESTAR but i can see blind screen when i open the sms ...any idea??
Hello guys, there are a lot of questions about wp7 additional fonts support. Btw, a lot of people can't browse their own language websites to read anything on their language. The main issue is that instead of fonts, in the browser appears just empty boxes. We face such problems especially in utf-8 scenario. For instance my language Georgian font could not be shown by the system and os doesn't supports yet. What do you think about solution, have u any ideas how to add Georgian fonts to os and it worked, I mean that it was shown, when I am browsing on Georgian (utf-8) websites.