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Help with Bluetooth Headset!!

Sorry if you have already read this but I am still having a problem!!
I got the new Bluetake iphone mini stereo headphones for christmas and was hoping to use them with my MDA Pro (running the new O2 ROM).
I have them paired as a "Hands Free" device...
I know that I can't use the stereo features until the new A2DP patch come out (hopefully soon!), however what I want to be able to do is use voice command to initiate calls etc. However when I press the call/power or Play/Pause button all I hear is a beep from the headset and nothing hapens on the PDA...
However I can use the button to answer and hangup a call (as long as I answered it with the handset...) If I initiate the call on the MDA then I can't hangup with the headset...
Am I doing something wrong or does it sound like something is faulty??
Any advice?
Thanks
Andy.

I actually had an oportunity to try out the voice levels and sound is awful! I also tried to connect it to my SE T610 and it refused and it did the same when I tried to connect it to my Toshiba M200 tablet PC as in both cases it never asked for the passkey...
I am begining to think that they must be faulty??
But becuase I have never had a BT headset before so I'm not sure if I am doing something stupid!
Andy

I have managed to try a SE BT headset with my MDA Pro and it did work and activate voice command. So it would seem that the headset is faulty. Does anyone have any ideas before I send it back?
Andy

Please!! Is there anyone here who can comment on whether they think these are broken or if I am just incompetent!
If they are broken then I need to send them back really soon...

FWIW, my Jabra BT330 and the SE HBH-662 just need a single quick click to activate the voice dial, but these Plantronics Pulsar 590A things I just got (which are fandabidosi by the way!) need a prolonged press to do the same.
Have you tried keeping your finger on the button for a while?
Ferg.

andykemp said:
Sorry if you have already read this but I am still having a problem!!
I got the new Bluetake iphone mini stereo headphones for christmas and was hoping to use them with my MDA Pro (running the new O2 ROM).
I have them paired as a "Hands Free" device...
I know that I can't use the stereo features until the new A2DP patch come out (hopefully soon!), however what I want to be able to do is use voice command to initiate calls etc. However when I press the call/power or Play/Pause button all I hear is a beep from the headset and nothing hapens on the PDA...
However I can use the button to answer and hangup a call (as long as I answered it with the handset...) If I initiate the call on the MDA then I can't hangup with the headset...
Am I doing something wrong or does it sound like something is faulty??
Any advice?
Thanks
Andy.
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Just looked at the instructions for the bluetake i-phone (bt450rx),
(got them myself for xmas)
and it does not say that you can connect to the phone for voice control,
however you should be able to hang up from the headset.
i have got the k-jam (wizard) and can dial from the k-jam and hangup from the headset.
voice control may not be available because the new bluetooth stereo headset's are ready for AVRCP (Audio Video Remote Control Profile).
the older bluetake headset bt420rx can be used for voice control but do not have AVRCP function.
I hope i am wrong, but it may be the answer you have not been looking for.

Hmm... That sounds bad...
I only have a few days left to return it and don't know whether to get a replacement or to go for a different headset?

i like the idea of being able to play/pause/f-foward/rewind via the headset(when bt v2 upgrade is available), because music playback is more important to me than voice dial.
of course if you can send it back, then perhaps just wait until bt v2 is available, and then buy a headset for the uses you require it for.(wish there was an emotion with cross eyes) LOL

I know what you mean but I would still be able to use voice command!!
Does anyone else have the 450Rx and a universal and could test it for me?

if you do prove me wrong (and i hope you do) please let me know.

answering this problem further,
the bluetake i-phono mini headset cannot be used for voice command,
however the motorola ht820 can be used for voice control.

Had similar issues with my headset (not the same type). In the end, I had enable secure mode on the universal, pair the devices, select serial port and then immediately initiate the voice dial, otherwise it didn't work.
Gareth

I decided to play it safe and returned it back to Expansys for a refund. When someone else gets a set of stereo headphones and A2DP is out... and crucially they can confirm it works! Then I'll buy a new one!
Cheers
Andy

one good thing with motorola ht820 is that they can be used with a detatchable cable, so whilst i'm using them bluetooth for the phone side, i can still hear good quality music.
also i know from trying them with my wife's qtek s110 that you can control windows media player as well.

you may have already tried this, but just in case you haven't,
install and run the three files for either "bt off", "bt on", or "bt toggle",
this will switch all audio to the bt headset or away,
of course quality is not good, but at least no cables.
ps. if the headset is switch off and you put bt on, you will get an on screen error message.

aliendad said:
one good thing with motorola ht820 is that they can be used with a detatchable cable, so whilst i'm using them bluetooth for the phone side, i can still hear good quality music.
also i know from trying them with my wife's qtek s110 that you can control windows media player as well.
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Do they come with this cable as standard?
EDIT: Did a search, and they do.... might just buy them now and sell my Sony EX-71's.... would they we at least the same in terms of sound quality? It's the thing people talk about least with these devices!
So lemme see if I got this right.... even before I get A2DP installed on my Exec, I can listen to perfect music using the cable, and also use the hphones as a bluetooth headset as well? Will the music still pause etc when a call comes in?

Just bought a pair of HT820's on Ebay there.... £38, not too bad. Should get about £25-30 for two pairs of existing headphones, so well please.

Motorola HT820 and Voice Command

I recently got a Motorola HT820 stereo bluetooth headset that I use w/ my T-Mobile MDA w/ the 2.26 ROM upgrade -- pure stock T-Mob ROM. I've been liking the sound, found a way to resolve all skipping problems, but there's 1 issue I have: I can activate MS Voice Command w/ the left button, and I can speak commands, and it understands them, but the VC audio is not sent over the headsets, so in effect VC can hear me, but I can't hear "her". Example: I say "Call Wife Cell", I don't hear my dial confirmation ("Call Wife Mobile?"), but if I just say Yes as if I did, it dials. The phone call comes through the headset, incoming calls come in fine, pausing the music and allowing me to restart when done, etc. It's just that the VC voice doesn't come over.
Any ideas?

One more thing: I also have a mono Motorola HS500 headset that works fine w/ MSVC over BT.

well the audio shouldnt ever skip that much if you have a us ver of ht820. I cant comment on the head set yet as i havent recieved it yet i just orderd them today first version i orderd was an imitation version from china. good luck and ive always had trouble with msvc so not sure

Well, these have to go back. I took a walk today, and boy did they skip! And, while I didn't get them on eBay (I got them at CompUSA), they are made in China. Don't know if that makes a difference, but I'm not taking chances on $100 headphones. I'll do more research and find one that actually works. If Motorola can't control their quality, they can't expect me to have any faith in their products.

VC 1.6 announcements over BT Headset

I know this has been covered a bit but I have a quick question. MS is saying you need to have AKU 3.2 to get VC to announce caller's over your BT Headset. Has anyone found a simple way to make this work on an earlier ROM. Lately I've been running mostly Molski's ROM, but I dabbled in Faria's 3.2. I swore I had BT working totally with a 2.26 ROM, but am I on crack?
I liked Faria's 3.2 but I was missing too many calls. Is there any way to upgrade just teh BT in an older ROM to make this work. (I'm sure my inexperience shows in this question. If its impossible to do, just say the word and I'll patiently wait for a new 3.2 or 3.5 ROM or just forget about this)

I have two answers to your question.
The first is use the A2DP hack found in this forum and get a stereo bluetooth headset. The iTech Clip R35 or S35 both come with the two headphones; one with only one earbud, so you aren't covering both your ears. When you have a stereo bluetooth headset, all sound, including the calls from MS Voice Command are redirected to your headset.
The second is use the program found here:
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/...luetooth-headset.html?perpage=20&pagenumber=1
It basically redirects all sound to bluetooth (probably a cheaper and easier fix); I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like it might be the solution you are looking for.
I also liked having the feature of calls announced through bluetooth, but it never did seem to work. I have been meaning to download the program from the site, but just haven't gotten chance. If you try it, let me know if it works.
Thanks.

I wonder how hard it would be to get that little program to run automatically when connected to a head set

yeah theres nothign cooler than wearing a stereo headset while driving. Thanks but no thanks.
I've used BT audio with v1.5, and it wasnt for me. i still use it to listen to podcasts via my headset on occasion though.
The nice thing about 1.6 when it was working (mist have been with Faria's ROM) was that I didn't hear my normal phone ringtone through the headset. It rang like normal through my headset, but it would announce the callers name. Its a cool feature.
edit: I must have been wrong. It does divert the ringtone through your headset as well. This gives me hope that I can work somethign out using BTAudio.

Yeah it is a cool feature. You can go to the notification settings in voice command (Settings -> Personal -> Voice Command) and change it so that notifications are done when bluetooth is available (the second radio button). If the notifications cannot sound through your headset, they will come from the phone speaker so you will still be able to hear who is calling without looking at your phone. Doesn't really help if your phone is in your pocket or if you can't hear it, but I guess its the next best alternative.

I have a cooked T-mobile 2.26 ROM and use MS VC 1.6 over my BT205 no problems. I was previously using the original O2 rom and has it working on that too so both an AKU2.0 and an AKU2.3 work fine. To install try this:
remove VC if installed
remove headset pairing
soft reset
create headset pair and leave it switched on
install vc1.6
soft reset
add path string to HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand\
i.e. \Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe
soft reset
then try the button on the headset a few times
Riptos

I'm not having trouble using BT with VC. I want the Incoming call announcements to come over BT.
I installed Farias 3.2 and it worked, but I decided its not a huge deal. I'll try playing around looking at some of teh links here and see if I can't work somethign out. Thanks everyone.

I would also love for voice command 1.6 to announce incoming calls to my bluetooth headset. Interestingly, low battery announcements come through the bluetooth headset, but not incoming calls. Hmmm. Any suggestions/luck getting this to work?
Best,
MJB

VC Caller ID over Bluetooth
I think you all will enjoy this hack

where did u find this hack from? is it reliable?

jacob-mda said:
where did u find this hack from? is it reliable?
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What? You don't trust someone who's first post is somethign to put on your phone

hell no considering this a brand new mda tmobile just sent me lol..

jacob-mda said:
hell no considering this a brand new mda tmobile just sent me lol..
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Just wanted to let everyone know I tried it out today and it works as expected. Phone audio gets redirected to BT headset on incoming calls.

but does the ringer get re-directed also? cuz if so thats DAMN ANNOYING!

Well I dont mean to sound condescending to a "senior member" cuz im just a junior but did it cross your mind to select "none" as your ringer? Oh, Btw everyone, your welcome for my fantastic little file

What exactly does the file do???

I had troubles with VC 1.6 at first, but now it seems to work OK. Maybe I accidentally followed Riptos's instructions. Don't know.
Also BTAudio is working to redirect audio when I want that to happen, since VC now closes the audio after it finishes.
The only remaining minor glitch is that after giving a dial command, the little simulated dialing noise comes over the phone speaker not the headphone. So if the phone isn't right by, I don't always know whether it has dialed or not.
Any suggestions?

I tried the CallerID program. It works just as described. The only thing is that is takes up ~443.48 KB at startup. I just installed it so I don't know if it increases after a while.
I have a question. If I understand everything correctly, with a AKU 3.2 ROM this CallerID program isn't necessary if I want to get Incoming Call Announcements over Bluetooth. Right??

Has anyone gotten VC 1.6 to announce incoming calls over a STEREO Bluetooth headset? Seems like the discussions have only been for a hands free device. Anyone?

I don't have a 3.XX ROM and Voice Command notifications work on my stereo bluetooth headset without the program because I think wtih stereo bluetooth, all sound is redirected to the headset. I didn't do anything or change any settings, it just worked. I obviously have the A2DP hack installed, but that's it.

x7500 phone experience...

Mine should be arriving tomorrow
What are you guys using for phone calls: the included wired earbud, bluetooth headset or just the speakerphone?
Do most bluetooth headsets out there work with the included bluetooth stack?
Thanks!

Bluetooth all the way!
I am using the Plantronics Voyager 510 headset works the best for me great battery life, volume etc.

Bluetooth 99% of the time, rarely use the speakerphone. (Which does, however, work well.)
I use the BlueAnt V12, which has a vibrate feature... which is userful since the phone doesn't have one built-in. It also has an LCD, which I find useful. Displays status, phone numbers, but no names. But I seem to know most numbers, and if I don't that's also informative.
BlueAnt V12 has also a great price, around $50.

Jawbone Bluetooth works great.

I have no problems with the Jabra BT800, which also has vibrate, lcd and 6 individual ringtone settings plus the one from the Ameo. Works flawlessly.
Tim
ww?.limitz.net

Excellent!
So if my BT headset goes dead, the x7500 will continue fine as a phone? Will the speakerphone be automatically activated whenever I initiate/receive a call?

andresp said:
Excellent!
So if my BT headset goes dead, the x7500 will continue fine as a phone? Will the speakerphone be automatically activated whenever I initiate/receive a call?
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If there is no headset connected wired/bluetooth speakerphone is automatically activated for a call.

fatouraee said:
Jawbone Bluetooth works great.
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But not if you use Microsoft Voice Command 1.6. That kills the Jawbone d.e.a.d.
Aliph have confirmed it's a MVC problem.
Kevin

andresp said:
Excellent!
So if my BT headset goes dead, the x7500 will continue fine as a phone? Will the speakerphone be automatically activated whenever I initiate/receive a call?
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Yes. It takes about 5 seconds for the X7500 to realise there's no active BT connection and reroute to the speakers.

andresp said:
Mine should be arriving tomorrow
What are you guys using for phone calls: the included wired earbud, bluetooth headset or just the speakerphone?
Do most bluetooth headsets out there work with the included bluetooth stack?
Thanks!
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Jabra BT8010. Works perfectly. Works even better if you upgrade the Jabra to 1.33 and follow the instructions elsewhere on the forum to get caller ID

apd said:
Jabra BT8010. Works perfectly. Works even better if you upgrade the Jabra to 1.33 and follow the instructions elsewhere on the forum to get caller ID
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I have some problem with BT8010. The phone function is perfect, but i have problem with stereo function. The playback is clogging and the memories getting fall with wm player. Have you got any reason? I tried it with TCPMP, it's same problem, but memories dont fall.
(sorry my bad english!)

Zatesz said:
I have some problem with BT8010. The phone function is perfect, but i have problem with stereo function. The playback is clogging and the memories getting fall with wm player. Have you got any reason? I tried it with TCPMP, it's same problem, but memories dont fall.
(sorry my bad english!)
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Sorry, works perfectly for me. Anyone else have any ideas?

bt
i use bluetooth most of the tyme wen out...although speakerfone quality is also pretty good...one way to use it as an earpiece is to make the volume REAL LOW...and then out it to the ear...although still some sound duz appear to the outside...!

kevinnugent said:
But not if you use Microsoft Voice Command 1.6. That kills the Jawbone d.e.a.d.
Aliph have confirmed it's a MVC problem.
Kevin
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Thanks for the warning. I am just about to try 1.6 on my Jawbone.

Found this comment here - http://www.wmexperts.com/reviews/bluetooth_headsets/review_aliph_jawbone_bluetooth.html
Try creating the registry key:
HKLM\software\microsoft\voice command\speech\BluetoothPTTDelay
value = dword: 2000
Stop and start Voice Command.
I have found that this makes Voice Command 1.6 work great with the Jawbone even in the noisiest enviornments. This will open up the audio channel for 2 seconds before starting a voice command interaction as opposed to the 400ms that is the default. I think possibly the Jawbone is adapting to the ambient noise during this time. This seems to make a big difference though.
Let me know if this helps as my Jawbone will be arriving shortly.

Anyone used a stereo headset and liked it? I wouldn't mind having one that would go one ear for calls and a simple way to use both for listening to music/movies.

Pantaloonie said:
Found this comment here - http://www.wmexperts.com/reviews/bluetooth_headsets/review_aliph_jawbone_bluetooth.html
Try creating the registry key:
HKLM\software\microsoft\voice command\speech\BluetoothPTTDelay
value = dword: 2000
Stop and start Voice Command.
I have found that this makes Voice Command 1.6 work great with the Jawbone even in the noisiest enviornments. This will open up the audio channel for 2 seconds before starting a voice command interaction as opposed to the 400ms that is the default. I think possibly the Jawbone is adapting to the ambient noise during this time. This seems to make a big difference though.
Let me know if this helps as my Jawbone will be arriving shortly.
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Why do you need to go through all athat gymnastics? I just installed voice command and it worked with Jawbone without any issues. I can't complain about battery life because I use my jawbone and Athena as regular phone, even in my open office. Maybe total 2 hours +- 30 minutes. Don't need 6 hours talk time yet I have never run out of battery yet. I charge both devices every night.

P3600i & Dell BH200 Headset - A2DP OK, HandsFree NOT OK

Hi guys,
I've been scouring the web for a number of days now with no success. Was wondering if anyone is experiencing the same problem and if anyone knows if this can be fixed.
I have a HTC P3600i, with ROM 3.00.707.18 (latest ENG ROM I could find) and have been using a Jabra BT8010 (firmware 1.33) for some months with no problems on A2DP or Handsfree (even switching back and forth is ok).
Have just got myself a new Dell BH200 stereo BT headset (for better bass) and while A2DP is working pretty fine (very nice), I'm finding that I can't use the headset for incoming or outgoing calls at all.
Everytime I try doing calls, the headset icon on the phone screen disappears after 5 or so seconds, and the headset itself switches off right after.
Am hoping someone can point me to the right direction, thanks..

Well two years later
I own a Dopod C730 and lo and behold I bought a Dell BH200 and I have the exact problem descibed above. I have the latest rom and I have tried reseting the smartphone all for naught.
Well I hope someone has figured this one out at some point or else I am going to be disappointed in my new Christmas gift

Well, I gave up and sold off my BH200 already. Am back to using the Jabra BT8010.

same problem here with my HTC Touch (3452). It's really frustrating to have to remove the headset every time u have to take a call. did anyone fimd a solution to this?

an123 said:
same problem here with my HTC Touch (3452). It's really frustrating to have to remove the headset every time u have to take a call. did anyone fimd a solution to this?
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I am not using touch. Mine is Asus P535. WM6
Do double pairing. 2 diffrent mode
1) Hi Fi Stereo
2) Hands free
Music would mute when the call is recieved. When you end the call the music comes back.

myc said:
Mine is Asus P535. WM6. Do double pairing. 2 diffrent mode
1) Hi Fi Stereo
2) Hands free
Music would mute when the call is recieved. When you end the call the music comes back.
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This didn't work for me at all, on my HTC P3600i with the Dell BH200 headset. Pairing was ok, but as soon as there was an incoming call, the Dell headset would ring, and then silence.. I'd also notice that the headset icon on my phone would disappear and the headset itself would turn off.
My Jabra BT8010 headset, on the other hand, paired just fine as both handsfree and wireless stereo device. In fact, I've ditched the BH200 and am using the BT8010 till now.

Well how come i aint see this thread . Ok now BH200 works fine and it has no issues ( as you guys should understand if it works with ASUS , NOKIA , SAMSUNG phone ).The problem is HTC's coding . It doesnt support AVRPS, thats the service which is necesary for Phone to switch to calls when received and switch back to music. Now jabra uses a different technology ... But you will have to compramise on the quality of music in BH200
( its awesome ) and more over it looks like a music head set any ways .

damn! is there any workaround? or is AVRPS hardware specific? after A2DP and AVRCP, no we have another acronym to add to the lexicon

Same problem here, tested BH200 with Universal WM6 and Touch HD, headphones switch off seemingly when they receive handsfree request.
Tested them with WM5, lo and behold, it worked. Now I wonder - how come that they work with WM5 BT stack and not with WM6? Any ideas?

Well, from what I gather, at least the good news is that AVRPS is not hardware-specific... so there should be a suitable workaround to this problem for anyone using WM6.
I bought my pair of Dell BH-200 headphones yesterday and while I'm absolutely thrilled by the perfect (at this price) sound quality when playing music, I'm rather annoyed by the fact that I have to take off my headphones every time I want to receive a call. After all, that's what a headset is for, right!?
In any case, here are the specs of my phone:
HTC Touch Elfin P3452, running an up-to-date Windows Mobile 6.1 (Onyx ROM)
I'm considering upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.5 these days to see if that would do the trick... has anyone of you guys tried the Dell headphones' headset compatibility when running WM 6.5? Going back to WM5 is definitely not a option, since I didn't quite enjoy the looks & ergonomics of that OS...
P.S.: Upgrading to WM 6.5 didn't do the trick, unfortunately So I'm pretty much stuck and I don't want to return the headphones since I really enjoy them, of course once I ignore how they don't actually function as a proper headset... Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I just found this fix for the situation:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/...s/thread/368efd50-ce24-453a-a31c-e6747c698082
Try setting the registry value:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\UseESCO = DWORD:0
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The best part is, it seems to be actually working (I'm with Touch HD with Win 6.1).