Hey guys, I just got my 8525 a week ago, I'm still trying to get used to it. Overall i think i like it more then my TREO650 but i have one problem, i cant stand the small power button on the side. Most of the time i push it i push the slide keyboard out too, its so small i can never find it.
My old Treo650 had the power button and locking keys on the END button, when i push END it would lock and turn off the screen, to Unlock i would push END again and then the Center button. Is there any way to re-assign the Power button on the 8525 to be like my old Treo650?
Any suggestions guys. I am having the same problem with small power button
DAFTEK said:
its so small i can never find it.
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sounds like a personal problem, maybe see a doctor?
On a serious note.. i dont think it can be reprogrammed via the software, i believe the power button is actually mapped via hardware since it is used for functions like putting the phone into bootloader mode, etc.. i could be wrong though.
Hey thanks for the reply although its my phone with the small problem I have tried two programs on the forum here called Devicelock.cab but that only locks the device but you still have to push power to power the phone back up.
I believe the power key can be reprogrammed in one or two highly invasive ways.
However, it doesn't sound like you want to re-assign the power key, but to assign the power off function to another key. Is that correct? That's easy/
If you want to assign the power on function, that is more complicated, but there are work arounds.
V
I agree with the original poster. The small power on/off button is poor design. When I want to place a call, I first need to turn the device on by hitting that very small button. Then I need to activate the phone app or invoke MS voice command. It's just plain poor design. I love my 8525, but it could be so much better if the product designers at HTC actually thought about the ergonomics of the tasks users do the most.
One more gripe. The phone app is atrocious. Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu. This is annoying for a phone and a better design could mitigate the poor usability. I/m not an iPhone fanboy but take a look at the thought Apple put in there *first* phone and it is quite illuminating on the state of PPC phones.
r111 said:
[...]Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu[...]
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You could try scrollwheel up or D-pad up for recent call list .
(also down for speed-dials).
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.
ovidiugm said:
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.
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The original poster could - while in a call - try pressing the green button for two or three seconds.
I think it's even mentioned in the manual...
Cheers
Daniel
Hello.
I agree with the previous posters. The badly placed powerOn button is "bad design". If anyone finds the sollution (to PowerON the device using another key) please share it!
Otherwise, this is a great device. A true pocket computer
Best regards, jZ
+1 for the poor design.
I always hit the power button as I am pulling it out of the case when a call comes in, that turns off the screen, then I have to hit it again to see who is calling, and with all that going on as well as the ringer, the phone has a minor anurism and delays in answering.....
So to summarise the poor design aspect of this thread:
1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
Conclusion, it's just about right then!!
You can't please all of the people all of the time.
Mike
1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
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Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V
vijay555 said:
Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V
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unfortunately i can operate my wife's buttons even when i dont want to.. talk about poor design )
Lol, Shogun, remind us again how many kids you have?
Ok, some Opus Dei style self flagellation for the errant moderators going off topic.
Is this issue now resolved?
V
I can also operate my wifes buttons just fine as well but all i want is to find out if i can move the power button to maybe the PPT button or END when holding it.
Daftek, again, do you want to emulate the power key functionality, (ie on/off) on another key, and/or entirely disable the original power key?
V
Thats what I would like to do......
Hello.
I think we'd all like to assign a DIFFERENT KEY to POWER ON function. POWER OFF is no problem, because a button for this can be assigned through "Buttons". When the phone is in "sleep mode", only the POWER button can wake it.
Any solutions?
Regards, jZ
IMHO, it's possible but not easily.
Easiest work around is to disable button locking, so that pressing any button can wake the device, and then use a software lock to timeout/power off if you happen to poke a hardware button while it's in your pocket.
Alternatively you could rewrite the button driver, but it's possible (although I've not looked into it definitively) that the hardware power button is a hardware interrupt to the CPU. In which case a software based solution will not override a hardware based connection.
V
This is what I did...
I totally agree the power button is a pain, the size, placement...
I know this sounds a bit weird but I took a small piece of plastic (actually from a toothpick) and crazy glued it on the button. It works great! I never miss the button anymore! See picture...
I'm getting annoyed of this. I'm having a hardware issue. When I press the green answer button, it doesn't work I tried remapping my softkey buttons so I can use my left softkey to activate phone. Just now, my left softkey doesn't work. I tried getting a edge of a notepad with a sticky side trying to grab the dirt if it is dirt. That didn't do anything. Anyone else sharing my pain and running out of button?
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I'm getting annoyed of this. I'm having a hardware issue. When I press the green answer button, it doesn't work I tried remapping my softkey buttons so I can use my left softkey to activate phone. Just now, my left softkey doesn't work. I tried getting a edge of a notepad with a sticky side trying to grab the dirt if it is dirt. That didn't do anything. Anyone else sharing my pain and running out of button?
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Haven't heard of this before! Do you actually see dirt around the buttons in question? How did dirt get there? When you press the green phone hardware button, the phone doesn't activate? Now the left softkey doesn't work? Are these the only buttons that don't work? What about the camera, voice record, comm mgr buttons? How long have you put up with your issue? Did this just start, or been going on for awile? It could be the result of corrupted 3rd party software installed that's giving you these problems. Have you installed any software pertaining to the phone ie: contacts, call history,etc. these kinds of software?
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i've been flashing 15 different roms. All my buttons work except that one. I figure that the button just failed on me. My 1 yr warranty is over and I'm not sure HTC will do anything about this.
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Haven't heard of this before! Do you actually see dirt around the buttons in question? How did dirt get there? When you press the green phone hardware button, the phone doesn't activate? Now the left softkey doesn't work? Are these the only buttons that don't work? What about the camera, voice record, comm mgr buttons? How long have you put up with your issue? Did this just start, or been going on for awile? It could be the result of corrupted 3rd party software installed that's giving you these problems. Have you installed any software pertaining to the phone ie: contacts, call history,etc. these kinds of software?
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Whenever I put my hermes into a desk or car cradle, none of my soft keys function. This includes the red and green call buttons. If I pull the phone out of the cradle, they work again.
I pondered over this problem for weeks and then it dawned on me; the dam camera button was being permanently pressed down by the cradle. The camera program never loaded because I have long since disabled that function since I was always hitting it by accident.
So, is there anyway to permanently disable the camera button? Has anyone found a cradle that doesn't affect the camera button?
go to settings, personel, buttons and then select the camera button. select no function for it. this should get rid of the pesky little problem.
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go to settings, personel, buttons and then select the camera button. select no function for it. this should get rid of the pesky little problem.
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As I said in my post, I've already done that.
Hey guys I just got a G1 for real cheap and fund out its back button does not work. I opened the phone up and the metal contact the button clicks on is broken.
Is there any way I can assign the back button to some other button? I will probably do it to the click wheel since I don't plan to use it for navigation.
Thanks
Edit: is there a way to remap the trackball as the back key?
mackdaddy187 said:
Hey guys I just got a G1 for real cheap and fund out its back button does not work. I opened the phone up and the metal contact the button clicks on is broken.
Is there any way I can assign the back button to some other button? I will probably do it to the click wheel since I don't plan to use it for navigation.
Thanks
Edit: is there a way to remap the trackball as the back key?
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Try this thread [MOD] Remap Any Key on Your G1 (v3, Now can play/pause/skip Music with Camera Key)
mackdaddy187 said:
I opened the phone up and the metal contact the button clicks on is broken.
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The next step after finding the cause of the problem, is REPAIRING it. You know how a button works? There are two contacts on it, when the button is UP, the contacts are disconnected from each other, when the button is DOWN the contacts are CONNECTED to each other. You just need to rig something up to connect/disconnect the two contacts.
The device and the touchscreen work, but none of the capacitive buttons (menu, home, back, search) are responding, even after reboot and even after a hard reset. Not even in recovery mode. Any suggestions ?
Hey Bud, Mine has about a bit similar issue but not quite exactly the same as yours because my button sometimes works and most of the time responds like really slow or like not at all - of which i have to tap on it twice or multiple times to make it work. the worst button takes a lot of time or less to respond was my capacitive back button, the rest works fine but not always. i suspect that it may have something to do with the internal hardware... anyone here please shed some miraculous light here...
Not sure how to fix your issue, but in the meantime you can jump on the Android Market site on your PC, install Button Saviour then launch it as a replacement for your capacitive buttons. That should cover your needs.
Hope that helps!
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Not sure how to fix your issue, but in the meantime you can jump on the Android Market site on your PC, install Button Saviour then launch it as a replacement for your capacitive buttons. That should cover your needs.
Hope that helps!
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Thanks a million!
Still looking into the cause of the problem...