Question about BT headset - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories

Hi,
I have never owned a BT headset before, so I have some questions if you are willing to help me.
If I read some specifications (for example from Jabra BT8010), a BT headset could have 2 modes :
- Phone mode (mono)
- Music mode (stereo)
What is exactly the music mode? Does it mean that it controls Windows Media Player?
Or it has its own media player?
How if I want to play VIDEO (using Tcpmp for example), can I use the Music mode?
Mostly I will use the BT to watch movie and play games ....
PS: Do you use Jabra BT8010 with Kaiser? How is it?
Thanks,

since i know how frustrating it can be not to get an answer..maybe you prefer a soso answer to no answer...;-):
i used to have a stereo headset nokia hs-12 or so...but this is already some time ago...
so the way it basically works: upon pairing it will say that it supports music and phone.
depending on the layout of the headset (and the achieved compatibility with the handheld device) you will be able to control some to most features of the media players in the device. like play, pause vol up vol down, FF, RWD.. my headset worked well with windows media player, also with resco radio..tcpmp i did not have at that time yet.
hope this gives you an idea.
Andy

I think the difference is that the Phone Mode or Mono mode means that there is only ONE audio channel... suitable for making and receiving calls while the Music mode or Stereo mode means that it has TWO channels which is suitable for headphones because they have to channels.
Phone Mode BT devices can play your music but only out of one channel and in all cases Phone Mode BT devices only have one ear plug.
Music Mode BT devices can play your music or any sound for that matter out of both channels which is why they are in headphone form with two ear plugs.
MONO=1
STEREO=2
This is my take on this but please correct me if I am wrong as I would too like to get to the bottom of this.

actually that is not correct.
the so called A2DP profile is AFAIK only supported by stereo BT headsets/headphones. a mono headset will NOT get any audio sound under normal circumstances. However one can tweak the registry -and there is also software that does it - in order to direct the audio output to the headset.the price for this being, that as long as this function is active, voice dialling from the headset will not work, since this is the function that is being used to switch the audio gate.
Now, in the case of the 8010 this should be different, since it is basically a stereo headset with a detachable 2nd earpice. this one should therefore always work in A2DP mode and therefore enable audio throughput without any further tweaks.

I just picked up a BT8010 yesterday -- my local Fry's had them half-price. Stereo performance is pretty good, but there's a bit of skipping (i.e. momentary dropouts of the audio). There's a firmware update available from Jabra -- that may help.
Haven't had the chance to use the BT8010 as a phone headset yet, so I can't address that.

Related

Set as Hands Free

I'm somewhat puzzled about the terms Headset and Hands-free.
There is an option to set my BT headset as hands-free, but I have no idea what that does.
My BT headset (airoblue) is supposed to have an mp3 interface, but when I play an mp3, the sound comes out of the speaker.
I would like to hear all sound to go through my BT headset.
So there are 2 questions in the latter:
1. What is the difference between Headset and Handsfree?
2. Is it possible to have all sound go through my BT headset?
any ideas?
I can answer the first one.
Headset is pretty straightfoward...plug in your headset, use your bluetooth, etc
Handsfree is kind of like speakerphone I guess. No headset or accessories required, the sound is played thru the phone's main speaker instead of the earpiece, so that you can sit the phone on the desk in front of you and hold a conversation. (I haven't used this feature on my mini yet tho, so no idea how well it works and I *think* you activate this mode by holding down the green answer button onc the call has been answered).
I think you misunderstood the question bleepy. The latest Radio Stack of the Magician seems to implement the Handsfree Profile for bluetooth in addition to the Headset profile. The difference between these two is, that Handsfree has some additional capabilities compared to Headset. I think it allows voice dialing as well as initiating calls by the headset (therefore: Handsfree!). It is not meant for audio transmission and i doubt that the WaveOut of the Magician is linked to the bluetooth profile. That's what the A2DP profile is there for. This is not included in the Microsoft stack and i think currently also not available from third party developers. So I think you should forget about the audio streaming over the headset, also because the audio quality should be really bad since the handsfree profile wasn't developed for music streaming.
Thanks for the clear explanation.
I hoped there was a way, because it is nice to watch a movie or something in the plane, or bus.
Guess I'm stuck with the wired headset.

Navigation Software Audio over BT

How do you guys listen to your voice navigation software? I have the supertooth II BT handsfree set, and make and receive my phone calls through it. Now when I go into my nav software, the audio goes throught the loudspeaker, or I have to use the cable earphones (supplied with phone).
Using the earphones is a bit stupid, then I might as well not have the handsfree in the car. I would like to get all audio & sound to go to my Supertooth.
There was a site I found where a guy posted software that sends all audio to a bluetooth headset. Now this was a Samsung i730 post, now I wonder if it is not written for the i730, as I tried it out, and it switches my Supertooth on, but still nou audio can be heard.
Will something like a BT audio transmitter that is normally used to trasmit audio from a MP3 player to a hifi work?

Initial A2DP findings

Using the M3100 with the itech clip S35 Headset
firstly i've been using the fit4cat tweaker which has an A2DP quality improvememt tweak - unfortunately the tweak makes the quality worse so i've tuned it off and the music quality is not too bad when playing through my car stereo. However, I need to try some decent headphnes with the unit because the ones supplied sound very tinny!
Secondly, when you first pair the device, media player plays through the headset ok. If you then go out of range, when you return the headset re-pairs ok for the phone but the media player doesn't and it plays through the loudspeaker. You have to enter BT settings and recheck the stereo music option to have the sound through the headset again. Anybody getting this with the same or other headsets?
Thirdly, I have the S35 outputting through my car stereo. When people are calling me they can hear an echo (of themselves speaking as the sound comes out through the car speakers). There is some sort of delay i suppose but this is very annoying. I'm not sure why its happening because when I tried the headset using my Sony Ericsson W800i there was no such echo!
therfore, is the echo problem an A2DP thing (as the w800i does not support it and this works ok) or is it a m3100 thing? To test this I could turn off A2DP and ry the headset again - is this possible?
any suggestions appreciated
I have the Jabra BT620s headphones and I have indentical problems.
After install all works well but as soon as you disconnect media player just plays via the phone speaker
at least you guys get it to work once. WMP never plays through my iPAQ bluetooth headset. AVRCP controls work fine though. TCPMP plays fine through the bluetooth headset as long as I pair it up before I execute TCPMP. This is exactly how it worked with my 8125.
The WMP issue is very strange and is likely yet another example of the lack of QA testing in the A2DP portion of the TyTN's implementation. I would expect that these issues will all be fixed in a subsequent TyTN ROM update.
I'm getting on ok with this
quality is pretty good both using the headset with my own sony ear buds. Vast improvement over the itech supplied ear buds.
A2DP - no skipping during normal playback and it works well - quality is not an issue through the car stereo either - not bad at all . I've even been listening to music over A2DP and running sat nav using a GPS BT receiver. A slight pause in music when GPS connects but then all runs well.
My only 2 gripes are:-
1. When you disconnect or go out of range of the headset, it reconnect perfectly with the phone application. This isn't the case with the wireless stereo. I have to enter BT settings, uncheck the wireless stereo setting, save then recheck the setting before it reconnects. Slightly annoying but accesptable (for now)
2. the echo using the headset through my car stereo. People calling me can hear themselves again (about a 0.5 second delay) through the car speakers! Just to repeat my earlier post, this does not happen with my W800i. not sure if its an A2DP problem or something else.
Similarly here, I don't seem to be able to make A2DP (and the handsfree profile, for that matter) work.
Using HTC and an Itech clip, I am able to pair the "wireless stereo" and then play music for some 10 seconds on the GS Player, after which the Wireless Stereo symbol disappears from the top bar and the connection is interrupted. I actually believe that the Itech clip is 'shut off', as I have to turn it on again.
When I try to reconnect the headset, it just won't work and the whole machine is slowed down. Only a soft reset helps.
I hope this is a ROM problem (and not mine) and it'll be fixed soon...
WMP and the Itech clip work fine for me, with the current German ROM.
a2dp issues w/th Hermes
With the CHT9000 WWE rom I had the wireless stereo drop off after about 1 minute, then I would have to reconnect. I flashed to the other dopod WWE ROM (latest) and the problem is gone....sound is comparable to my prophet. Reg tweaks suggested in other forums definetely make the sound quality worse for either ROM version. I think further updated ROM's will improve A2DP reliability (or someone may find a reg hack)...as with the prophet A2DP it just takes time.
Hi guys, I've got the vario ii and the Sony Ericsson HBH-610.
I can add the headset fine and make calls through it, but I don't know how to get the music in wmp to play through it.
If anyone has a few mins spare and could explain it for me I would be really grateful
Headsets..HBH 610...
With my CHT 9000 I use an OMIZ 5660...works great for calls and wireless stereo. I don't have any other headset to compare it to (since I only have used this brand)....I believe that if your "options" do not list wireless stereo then you can't use the A2DP function on your device, at least as it is designed to be used.
I'm not aware of a one-piece headset that supports A2DP that is available (all should have either 2 headphones or two wired ear plugs)..
THE ONLY WAY, I FIND :
I have a 590A Plantronics Bluetooth HeadSet
You must refresh Services of your iTech or your Plantronics !
Go Parameters, Bluetooth, Select your Headset, Refresh.
Then reselect services and Save !
Each time you lost the link (Bluetooth turn off or ...) you will have to Refresh,reselect and Save !
I am searching for a Solve but not find another !
I forget something else !
It is the same thing with my Bluetooth GPS (GNS).
I have a spv m3100 and jabra bt620. They both work like a dream most of the time apart from having to go into bluetooth settings each time I want to connect to the stereo headset option.
I have noticed that when in my garden or at home (a quiet environment probably) that I have excellent streaming but when I am walking around, particularly in built up areas like shopping centres, high streets, tube trains, that there is some loss in the streaming which would seem to point towards some kind of interference.
Why the wireless stereo is set as mono as standard I can't understand. I'm sure its to do with improving the streaming quality, but they are supposed to be STEREO!!! Also I set the quality to 58 instead of 48 and there was a definite loss in streaming quality so I switched back to 48.
The AVRCP also works brilliantly in WMP.
The wireless connection also plays havoc with the bluetooth stereo connection with the buffering of stereo constantly dropping. Also noticed that AVRCP wont work with TCPMP, but as there seems to be some major issues with TCPMP and the Tytn I have uninstalled it for the time being until the guys at CorePacket come up with a fix
I have a spv m3100 and jabra bt620. They both work like a dream most of the time apart from having to go into bluetooth settings each time I want to connect to the stereo headset option.
I have noticed that when in my garden or at home (a quiet environment probably) that I have excellent streaming but when I am walking around, particularly in built up areas like shopping centres, high streets, tube trains, that there is some loss in the streaming which would seem to point towards some kind of interference.
Why the wireless stereo is set as mono as standard I can't understand. I'm sure its to do with improving the streaming quality, but they are supposed to be STEREO!!! Also I set the quality to 58 instead of 48 and there was a definite loss in streaming quality so I switched back to 48.
The AVRCP also works brilliantly in WMP.
The wireless connection also plays havoc with the bluetooth stereo connection with the buffering of stereo constantly dropping. Also noticed that AVRCP wont work with TCPMP, but as there seems to be some major issues with TCPMP and the Tytn I have uninstalled it for the time being until the guys at CorePacket come up with a fix
I have a spv m3100 and jabra bt620. They both work like a dream most of the time apart from having to go into bluetooth settings each time I want to connect to the stereo headset option.
I have noticed that when in my garden or at home (a quiet environment probably) that I have excellent streaming but when I am walking around, particularly in built up areas like shopping centres, high streets, tube trains, that there is some loss in the streaming which would seem to point towards some kind of interference.
Why the wireless stereo is set as mono as standard I can't understand. I'm sure its to do with improving the streaming quality, but they are supposed to be STEREO!!! Also I set the quality to 58 instead of 48 and there was a definite loss in streaming quality so I switched back to 48.
The AVRCP also works brilliantly in WMP.
The wireless connection also plays havoc with the bluetooth stereo connection with the buffering of stereo constantly dropping. Also noticed that AVRCP wont work with TCPMP, but as there seems to be some major issues with TCPMP and the Tytn I have uninstalled it for the time being until the guys at CorePacket come up with a fix
So far A2DP has worked fine for me with my Nokia HS-12W. I have applied some registry settings and optimised my SD card and so far it has played with hardly a skip. Definitely better than my previous BA with WM5.
daddyo said:
Secondly, when you first pair the device, media player plays through the headset ok. If you then go out of range, when you return the headset re-pairs ok for the phone but the media player doesn't and it plays through the loudspeaker. You have to enter BT settings and recheck the stereo music option to have the sound through the headset again. Anybody getting this with the same or other headsets?
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This is the biggest problem for me with my M3100 at the moment. I'm guessing it will only be fixed by an updated\alternative ROM(?!), any ROM's out there I could try that might get round this problem??
Thanks
hutton118 said:
daddyo said:
Secondly, when you first pair the device, media player plays through the headset ok. If you then go out of range, when you return the headset re-pairs ok for the phone but the media player doesn't and it plays through the loudspeaker. You have to enter BT settings and recheck the stereo music option to have the sound through the headset again. Anybody getting this with the same or other headsets?
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This is the biggest problem for me with my M3100 at the moment. I'm guessing it will only be fixed by an updated\alternative ROM(?!), any ROM's out there I could try that might get round this problem??
Thanks
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This is probably headset dependent because with my Nokia HS-12W if i need to reconnect i just press the Audio button and it re-establishes the A2DP connection. No going to BT settings at all.
Interesting, can you just confirm what you mean by the Audio button. Is that just hitting 'Play' in WMP?
Thanks
No, the Nokia has a Music key (not Audio, my mistake) which switches from A2DP to the built-in radio. So if i have lost the BT connection pushing the Music key to select the Audio player will re-establish the connection and music is streamed to the headset. You will see the A2DP icon on the today screen when it has connected and get the chime in the headset.
Ok, thanks for that.
Just one last point, if the connection is lost while music is streaming, does the audio switch to the phone speaker instead??
My problem is I'll be listening to music on the subway then or some reason I'll loose the connection (interferance, low battery...whatever) and immediately music starts coming out the speaker, much to my embarrassment!
Thanks again!

[Q] Bluetooth headphones without A2DP

Hi, I just bought a couple of headphones for my flashed HTC HD2.
The problem is that it does not play music. After googling it is probably due to the fact that the headset does not support A2DP. (which is stereo playback)
Now my question is if there is any fix to play music anyway, without the A2DP feature in the headset)
I mean, I can hear calls etc. in the headphones.
Thanks!
Hi!
Unfortunatly A2DP is the only way to stream music from your phone to a bluetooth headset. I Google'd a bit and maybe it's good to check the Automatic Bluetooth Toggle Pro app, because it is possible of connecting to a2dp. I think (not sure) A2DP is standard available on the HD2 because it's an older technology.

Bluetooth

Is there a way to modify the bluetooth code so that the "ear peice" via "bluetooth" will also give you "music" etc....
I mean if the phone detects the ear peice and plays all the calls thru the ear peice..... why cant it be hacked to also play internet music....
Thanks in advance....
pm me a fix... flame in public...
Actually, I too would like to know if this is possible. Why can't it just be detected as wireless "headphones/headset".
Although I'm using an iPhone 4 so I'm sure that it'd be more difficult to do this if it is possible.
Should work
Lexsym said:
Actually, I too would like to know if this is possible. Why can't it just be detected as wireless "headphones/headset".
Although I'm using an iPhone 4 so I'm sure that it'd be more difficult to do this if it is possible.
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It depends on the activity the app code is running on the host device. All audio is able to be routed to the headphones. What kind of phone are you using?
It's not as simple as wired headphones. BT has something called profiles - each profile is for doing some particular thing - like transferring files, playing music, making calls, etc. For a particular feature to be supported, both the phone and the headset has to support that particular profile. Most android versions have support for most common profiles.
Calls are possible through profiles called HSP/HFP and stereo music is possible through profile called A2DP. Most of the mono headsets which are mainly for calling support only HSP/HFP and not A2DP - that's main reason you can't play music on most mono headsets. If you buy stereo BT headsets, they come with both HSP/HFP and A2DP - meaning they can support both calls and audio.
There are apps / hacks to stream music from an android phone to a mono headset through HSP/HFP. I've never tried any - you can look for those if you want to play music on your mono BT HSP headset.
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There are apps / hacks to stream music from an android phone to a mono headset through HSP/HFP. I've never tried any - you can look for those if you want to play music on your mono BT HSP headset.[/QUOTE]
I searched play store for mono bluetooth..... found blue tooth mono router... seems to work ok... a lot of white noise but hey works great!
thanks for the share
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RoxAbout said:
Is there a way to modify the bluetooth code so that the "ear peice" via "bluetooth" will also give you "music" etc....
I mean if the phone detects the ear peice and plays all the calls thru the ear peice..... why cant it be hacked to also play internet music....
Thanks in advance....
pm me a fix... flame in public...
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Are you able to connect the device to a computer or tablet? I think it would depend on the drivers on the device you're connecting to. What are you trying to connect to? Does it detect your earpiece?
its a jabra bluetooth ear peice.
and theres several "mono" bluetooth apps on the market/play store.
I happened to try blue tooth mono router and it works fairly well.
seems to use aprox 3 to 5% of battery in aprox 15 to 20 mins.
:good:

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