I have tried unsuccessfully to purchase a Wing twice now. Last night I made a bid on a third one, however so much time has passed since I have been trying to get one that I am now out of time. I lost my phone last week and need a new one by Wednesday. In order to get my phone I will have to overnight it for early arrival on Wednesday. The total cost now puts me close to 400 which is the neighborhood of an iphone. When the iphone first came out I swore it was the phone for me but I wasn’t going to spend 600 for it. They have dropped in price to 399 for the 8 gig phone. I am going to have to unlock the phone though for T-mobile service which scares me a bit. I kept pretty close tabs on the whole unlock the iphone saga when it was first being done and it seemed that there was a pretty high failure rate at that time. A quick check on eBay reveals that there are a plethora of unlocked iphones for sale which tells me that they have perfected the process. So now I am at a cross roads. I can get the iphone tomorrow from an Apple store or AT&T’s stores. The Wing will have to be sent overnight if I can convince the seller to drop everything and run down to a FedEx office. So given the pros and cons of the purchase I see a pretty close match. Maybe I should be looking at the phones themselves. The processor on the iphone is way more powerful and so is the storage space. The thing I don’t like about the iphone is that it’s a mac which means I may have issues getting software for it on the open market. Then again it’s a seriously popular device and people may be writing all sorts of tools and software for it. It doesn’t have a dedicated keyboard either which I liked about the wing. So given the choice, should I seriously stick with the Wing or should I make the switch to the iphone? Opinions count but I would like to hear some concrete facts about the differences if I am to make a logical decision. Thanks in advance.
Have you considered you can walk into a Tmobile Store and get a wing for $349?
You talk about walking into an Apple Store vs. having a Wing shipped to you.... and that seems to be the deciding factor on which phone you're going to get. If you walk into a Tmobile store, you can get a Wing for $350 plus tax .... and if you walk into an Apple store, you can get an iPhone for $399 plus tax.
actually I cant get the wing for 349. It's a real pisser and if that was true I would have done that a week ago. I lost my phone (V3 Razor) about a week ago. The first thought that came to mind was go to T-mobile and get a new phone. My second thought was to upgrade into something like the Wing. I didn't know it existed at the time, but I thought that it would be a nice iPhone substitute at 350 since I believed the iphone to be 600. As it turns out I am 10 months away from my contract ending with T-mobile. I am 8 months away from qualifying for any T-mobile phone rebates. The Wing is 499 retail with 100 instant rebate and 50 mail in all of which require 2 additional years of contract. T-mobile will not allow me to extend my contract until I am 2 months or less from my current contract expiration. So to that end and to your point, the phone is not 350 to me it is 499 to me. That is why I started my search on eBay. I thought then as I think now, I can get a better deal on the Wing through eBay. However, I had the damnedest luck on this particular auction. I bid and won my first auction about 5 days ago and have not heard 1 word from the seller regarding the close of the auction. I believe he died and luckily I hadn't sent him any money. Maybe someday I will hear from the guy but at this point he wont respond to any emails nor has he complained about me not paying for the auction. I decided to try again and won a second auction for 255 on the wing. Great deal I thought until I actually paid for the auction only to find out that he already sold the phone to another party as well as collecting payment from me too. Now I have to deal with that big pile of crap but I still need a phone. So here I am needing to win yet another auction for my wing or I can just go to an At&t store and pick up the iphone.
Tough decision to make, one that i considered also. A couple of things to note first is:
Longevity: Remember iphone 2.0 is already in the works and might drop by the end of next year. Also remember T-Mobile's 3g service should start seeing implementation beginning next year. So now the question is, how long are you planning on keeping this phone? Another thing to consider is resale value if you opt to get another phone next year. I would assume an iphone in great condition should have a higher resale value over time than the wing.
Specs: iPhone is more powerful than Wing and also has more storage, has a multitouch display that is larger and with higher resolution.
UI and OS: iPhone beats Wing hands down for STOCK UI and OS, athough it is an unfair advantage. Apple made OSX on the iPhone from the ground up. It only has one platform to work with whereas WM6 is created to be cross-platform and work for different SP, PPC, and PDA that all have different specs and components. Although the dev comm definitely did an outstanding job of making wm6 more user friendly, and with upgrades to wm6 like Shadows's UI and Android around the corner, we'll see how this develops.
Dev. Community: Apple is releasing a SDK for iPhone early next year, so you should start seeing software for iPhone given enough time. Wing has an established dev comm as you can see - xda (The best!), modaco, howardforums, and others.
Apple vs. Microsoft: Which is the lesser of two evils?
Warranty: unlock your iPhone and you just voided your warranty. At least with wing something happens to it, you should be able to have T-Mobile help you in some way. At least, i would think.
Personally, i'm happy with my Wing. It might be no iPhone, but then again no other is. It's the little device that could, and while there are more powerful phones on the market, it still holds it own. Plus i like the idea that i can abuse it more than the iPhone. I feel HTC makes quality phones and i can't wait to see if T-Mobile releases HTC Touch Cruise for its 3g service (please, please, please). Plus, it's not a F'ing Sidekick! lol.
Unless you are in dire need of a pda phone right now, i would buy a cheap phone for the time and wait until the next round of pda phones come out. Take a look at the ATT tilt, for instance, much more powerful than the wing and im sure we'll see a price drop pretty quick.
Have you considered this?
http://www.fatwallet.org/forums/messageview.php?catid=18&threadid=733578
This is where I bought my wing, when the price was $49 after rebate, now it's $79 with free bluetooth headphone. You do need to sign-up another one year contract (no activation fee, free 2-day shipping) with Tmobile though, but you can combine your twon lines to a family plan and save some $$.
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unless you are within 2 months of your current contract expiring, you can not renew your contract with tmobile. Your account must be 60 days to contract expiration before you can get any rebates or discounts applied to your phone. I have mentioned that twice so far. It's a very important tip to pass on and to keep in mind with your own upgrade decisions in the future. If I qualified for any sort of assistance I would have bought the wing long ago.
FYI..I ended up with 3 failed auctions for the wing. Very strange situatation to say the least. In the end I went with the iphone but I am starting to wonder if that was a wise choice considering all the trouble I have had with it over the last week. I attempted for 48 hours straight to hack the iphone for use on t-mobile service. Apple has released an update sometime last month that pretty much locks the phone down for the next couple of weeks or months. Someone will surely figure out a way around it but for now its damn near impossible. I decided to sign up with att service and only after a week of fooling with this phone did I finally get it working today. About 6 hours after finally getting the phone up and running did I discover that it doesnt have VOIP support. Now at first glance that might seem like a meaningless attribute but this was the primary reason for me starting this little adventure of phone upgrading. I am going to start a new thread because I have more to tell and need help in making a choice.
if you use your phone almost like laptop then you won't like the iPhone. You will for for a little while till the wow factor wares off. It's definately pretty and very nice with all its tricks but the simple things it cant do. Some 3rd party apps attempt to fix this but it doesnt work all too well.
You'll take things for granted such as browsing to a site to download something and email it as an attatchment to someone or yourself.
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I am a little, but the lemon in this whole thing is T-Mobile. They are cheap, have android but they don't have good service. I am on at&t and I am loving them(less and less apparently), and I want android again!
Anyone else in this same boat with the decision? I hope its faster when it gets released. Whats the ram and rom on this thing?
I have tmo and I have never had a problem let alone a dropped call. . . Also, if you live in major areas, anywhere near NYC, you are good to go no matter what carrier you have.
That being said I really like tmo for the service and support I get from them.
i have tmo also and never had any problems 3g works fine calls never drop. so the question of will i get a N1 most definitely and $530 is not to much to pay for the phone. and the ones who payd $699 for the i phone (plus contract) on the release cant talk
I've had T-Mobile for years now. They are pretty good. The only downside is that I don't get signal in school in some classrooms. But aren't I supposed to not be using a cellphone in class ?
The N1 has 512 MB RAM/ROM so it's pretty legit!
I have never once got a dropped call with tmobile. Bunch of friends have jesus phones (iphones) and always get terrible reception, dropped calls, sudden loss of signal, etc. My 3G is also faster then every friend's iphone when doing speed tests side by side. Throw in tmobile's excellent customer service, and you have an amazing cell company. I haven't had any issues with them whatsoever. I just called them yesterday morning and asked for an unlock code for my G1 and with no questions asked, they took my IMEI and email and said it would take 24 hours to get the code from the manufacturer. I got the code in my email a few hours ago. Seriously, people dont give tmobile enough credit. They call them the smallest of the big three, sure, but the smallest have to do a lot more than Verizon and AT&T to win over customers.
considering this phone? It's a must have for many!
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Since so many people are complaining about the unsubsidized price and crying about it being so much, I’ve crunched the numbers to calculate what the “real price” of the phone is when you buy it for $180 and sign a contract for a higher monthly payment. Note that the service you’re paying for is identical… you’re just paying more per month if you buy the phone subsidized.
Based on that information, using the prices of the 500 minute plans that T-mo offers, the “real price” of the phone when you pay $180 upfront is $660! How'd I come to this number? By subsidizing the phone, you agree to pay an extra $20 per month for the plan. That equals $480. $480+180=$660.
If Google was like Apple, they would be charging us over $600 for the unlocked and unsubsidized phone...
I am definitely fighting the wife over the unlocked price so I can get one. I seem to be winning so I might be getting one.
I have had T-Mobile for since '05, and I have never had any issues. Every year so far, I have gotten a new phone, 3 out of 4 have been full upgrades (supposed to be every 2 years) and the other was a partial. I have had exceptional help from customer service as I have a phone on my plan that resides outside of any T-mobile coverage (its actually funny, the phone runs off ATT towers... on a T-mobile plan... go figure). I have only had 1 dropped call in the last few years that I can think of. I live in Dayton OH, and we just got upgraded to 3g about 3 months ago. I am quite happy with T-Mobile. They are making giant strides to improving their network.
Edit: On a side note, I have used T-mobile extensively in Georgia(3 years), Texas(6 months) and now Ohio (6 months) and the network has been great in each of the locations. Also, having driven up and down the east coast at least 4 or 5 times from Vermont to Florida, I can say that the T-Mobiles network has been great, at least near the major highways. Heck it even worked great when I was in Alaska for a month.
Can I ask, why would someoen get this over the HTC variant?
Makes no sense considering the HTC Varient would have greater support and would have sense,
The HTC variant probably wont be a "google experience" device...but who knows.
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Can I ask, why would someoen get this over the HTC variant?
Makes no sense considering the HTC Varient would have greater support and would have sense,
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Personally, I'd rather have updates as soon as they come out, not after HTC updates SenseUI to work with updated Android releases.
The only reason that I am considering getting this phone over waiting for the Bravo is this forum. I have faith that the devs here can hook up a rom that will do pretty much anything on the Nexus that the Bravo or Passion can do. I could be wrong, and if I am let me know! I don't want to buy a phone that won't live up to standards that are 3 months down the road.
i know i am i have a touch pro 2 with tmobile i actually love the keyboard & everything but tmobiles version of the phone is the ugliest of the 4 companies & 2 of my friends have the sprint version which looks & is shaped much better & they keep rubbing it in my face (even though i got mines months b4 them) plus im bored of windows mobile so good buy tp2 hello nexus!!!!
Screw sense ui. i want stock android on a phone with 512mb RAM and a 1ghz processor. sign me up for the list of people getting this phone as soon as it is available.
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Screw sense ui. i want stock android on a phone with 512mb RAM and a 1ghz processor. sign me up for the list of people getting this phone as soon as it is available.
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This is what I want too. I don't want some junked up UI being pushed on me. Thats one big reason I can't even get myself to consider the SE X10. I don't want a UI. I want vanilla Android that I can alter as I want.
If I want a UI, flashing a ROM works for me.
Does anyone know, if they ship it to Europe?
If they do, I will buy it asap
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i'll buy a nexus, after a couple of months worth of other people using it and posting it's cons/pros.
why ?
the processor, and ram
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two very major companies are trying to help people understand that BUYING something means you OWN it... as opposed to signing a effing contract with some service provider, for 2x what a device and service is worth. some day, americans will see the light and stop financing so much simple crap. i hope.
Of crouse i am hah! Even made a site for it! pshh n1user.com
I'll get one. Why? I want a native Google Phone and do hope that the softwaresupport would be very good (like the G1 at least) and we'll get all major updates. I don't like Sense anyway.
I'll probably get one because my iPhone sucks (some of the games and stuff are cool, but the overall performance isn't that good) and i don't want a WM-phone again.
Is the ATT Pure gone? I am looking to add a line to my plan, and cannot find them anywhere. ATT has them on the website, but only refurbs and only for new customers (free). Amazon has them online for new accounts and upgrades, but they don't do add a line transactions.
Am I missing something? Is there a replacement for this phone coming out? My wife likes the Tilt 2 that I just got, but thought the physical keyboard was not needed... that led me naturally to the Pure.
im existing and it shows up for me .
I spoke with AT&T this morning. The refurbs are only available to new customers due to limited supply. They also said that I could order it as a new customer and transfer it over to my existing family plan without any problem or cost.
The said that the phone is still listed as a available phone, but they have no stock and do not know if/when they will be getting them in. O'well. I guess it will be a refurb for me.
Read this thread from FEBRUARY: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637163
I did order the phone. I was planning on doing the $100 HTC trade up rebate, but it is not good on refurb phone purchases. But since there was no actual cost to the phone no big deal. I get to keep the tilt as a spare. On my TP2 purchase last week, I am sending in a Treo that was collecting dust and getting my $100 rebate.
I don't care if the phone is old (which it is not really) or not selling well. It does what I want it to do. It has no real replacement, and definitely the right cost. I upgraded 2 smart phones and the total cost will be -$50. Not a bad deal at all.
2 Tilt 2's would have been o.k. but the wife did not want/need the physical keyboard. Plus I could see a day when we would grab the wrong phones on the way to work and then be screwed.
LetsTalk.com has them along with Wirefly.com. Both available under the add a line program. Cost depends on your timing, they run them NIB for free MOST of the time, but have seen them listed for about $50 US.
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LetsTalk.com has them along with Wirefly.com. Both available under the add a line program. Cost depends on your timing, they run them NIB for free MOST of the time, but have seen them listed for about $50 US.
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I did not see them there. The only HTC that came up for AT&T was the tilt 2. I do believe they are gone, (or going away quickly). Not to be selfish but, I got mine.... or at least it is coming.... since it is coming Us Postal Service, I have a great hope for it to show up on saturday.
I can see the problem. my wife on Wed said that she would prefer the one without the keyboard. Then after she found out that it might not be available, she was o.k. with going tilt 2 as an option instead. I can see that conversation occurring throughout the country. In this case however the tilt 2 (new) was $199 vs the Pure (refurb) at $0. I am pretty sure I made the right choice.
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I did not see them there. The only HTC that came up for AT&T was the tilt 2. I do believe they are gone, (or going away quickly). Not to be selfish but, I got mine.... or at least it is coming.... since it is coming Us Postal Service, I have a great hope for it to show up on saturday.
I can see the problem. my wife on Wed said that she would prefer the one without the keyboard. Then after she found out that it might not be available, she was o.k. with going tilt 2 as an option instead. I can see that conversation occurring throughout the country. In this case however the tilt 2 (new) was $199 vs the Pure (refurb) at $0. I am pretty sure I made the right choice.
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Wow.. I knew ATT was pulling them out of their stores but it seems EVERYONE is now. I've seen ATT pull phones before and places like Wirefly have them still 6 months later. I just checked on them 2 days or so ago when MY wife was eyeballing MY Pure..
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Wow.. I knew ATT was pulling them out of their stores but it seems EVERYONE is now. I've seen ATT pull phones before and places like Wirefly have them still 6 months later. I just checked on them 2 days or so ago when MY wife was eyeballing MY Pure..
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As of thursday morning AMAZON was the only one who had them. They wanted 0.01 for a new line and $80 for an upgrade.
Amazon does not do the add a line, and phones purchased though them cannot be combined with an existing family account (like you can with att's own phones) without a $250 penalty within the first 6 months. ATT tracks by device ID, as long as the device is activated, they don't care how. Amazon get their comission based on account number. If you do the new account option, then try to combine the accounts, you will lose the new account number and be fined.
If you did upgrade by the end of May, you could do the HTC trade up rebate if you have an old device to send in and get $100 back. Then the phone would be -$20...even free shipping.
They did say that stock levels were low for the pure.
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As of thursday morning AMAZON was the only one who had them. They wanted 0.01 for a new line and $80 for an upgrade.
Amazon does not do the add a line, and phones purchased though them cannot be combined with an existing family account (like you can with att's own phones) without a $250 penalty within the first 6 months. ATT tracks by device ID, as long as the device is activated, they don't care how. Amazon get their comission based on account number. If you do the new account option, then try to combine the accounts, you will lose the new account number and be fined.
If you did upgrade by the end of May, you could do the HTC trade up rebate if you have an old device to send in and get $100 back. Then the phone would be -$20...even free shipping.
They did say that stock levels were low for the pure.
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Ebay had some friday.. got busy and didn't get a chance to come here and post on it. Some of those dealers offer add a line. It's gonna suck if I ever have to do a phone swap though and no one has new ones. I love my Pure the way it is now. The stock ROM bites but the Energy is rockin'. A friend had a refurbed phone from ATT and whenever it got hot here his screen would fog up from internal moisture.
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Ebay had some friday.. got busy and didn't get a chance to come here and post on it. Some of those dealers offer add a line. It's gonna suck if I ever have to do a phone swap though and no one has new ones. I love my Pure the way it is now. The stock ROM bites but the Energy is rockin'. A friend had a refurbed phone from ATT and whenever it got hot here his screen would fog up from internal moisture.
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I have had some good luck with refurbs, but of course there are some horror stories. In this case I am sure that the cost saving will be worth it. The way I am upgrading and shuffling phones around, it will leave me with 1 line with an upgrade option on it. This will give me a chance to be able to replace any phone that breaks out of warranty in the coming months. Keeps the insurance cost down to zero.
First thing you do with any phone you get, new or refurb is check the white patch under the battery to make sure it is NOT pink in any way. That is the indication that the phone has been wet.
I love my Pure. Actually since me buying mine, my good friend and also my father have made the jump too. Its a pretty good touchscreen phone that is feels just the right size. I hope you all are successful in your attempts to get your hands on one. We knew they were going to get pulled months ago because of the low sales (wtf). I guess most people prefer the TP2 (meh).
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I love my Pure. Actually since me buying mine, my good friend and also my father have made the jump too. Its a pretty good touchscreen phone that is feels just the right size. I hope you all are successful in your attempts to get your hands on one. We knew they were going to get pulled months ago because of the low sales (wtf). I guess most people prefer the TP2 (meh).
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I just got it and after a long 40 minutes on the phone with at&t the did all the juggling on my account and got it working. (even got them to waive the activation fee).
So far so good. I am charging it now, so that I can flash it to the (same) energy rom that I have on my tilt 2.
The battery in the Pure was draining the website so they stopped selling it :|
I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending. A friend of mine is selling his G1 for pretty cheap in good condition. That combined with the Even More Plus plans sounds like a better deal than being stuck in a contract again for 2 years.
I know the phone is crazy old, but it still seems to have great support for roms and such. I have no problems with rooting and flashing at all.
Also, for the people who are with T-Mobile right now, if I start a Even More Plus plan right now, would I be able to "upgrade" to contracted phone down the road, which would prompt me to the more expensive plan, should I ever get a real itch for a Vibrant or things coming out later this year.
I just got mine today lol i love it
My other phone is a tilt 2 tho
Really no point. On CL in my city g1s are 60 used 120ish new. It still has awsome support but remember, its close to 2 years old.... With technology going at the pace its at, think of it like comparing a 2010 mustang against a very well maintained 1985 mustang. Its definately a usable phone and will make you pleased, but won't compare with the advancements in speed, fuel economy, safety, etc...
If you asked this question 7-8 months ago, I would have totally recomended it. Now, not so much.
P.S. download the APN on/off widget or APNdroid to turn off data, so you can qualify for cheaper talk/text only plans. Data is roughly $20-30 more expensive, plus your phone will be functional under wifi. Plus battery lasts longer
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i would say the same as mej,
but totally.. now.. its not much worth. I would totally go for a nexus one if i had to buy a new phone
T-Mobile don't even sell G1s anymore, do they?
Anyways, if you're getting a contract, don't buy an old phone! Get a myTouch slide or wait for the Sidekick Twist.
I would just get the Vibrant right now, because I think if you come into your contract with a used G1 you can't get a new phone till you're up for an upgrade. Besides, the Vibrant(along with most of the other Galaxy S lineup) is top of the line right now. They are benchmarking higher video framerates than a EVO 4G. Plus it has 720p HD video recording, and HD video out so you can play back what you recorded on a hdtv. Also has a accelerometer and gyroscope, giving it a 6-axis g-sensor for epic gaming. Oh yeah, and it's the baddest phone T-Mo has right now, period.
I purchases my G1 2 months ago, best buy ever (paid 100 uk pound,around 130euro then, with 8GB microsd, ...).
Still no phone with a tilt keyboard yet (had a tilt, htc kaiser, much better then htc pro, but the G1 has a nicer touch screen (the tilt was also running android 2.1).
If your stuck on Tmobile, don't want to spend too much, and want a new phone before your contract ends, then go for it
Nowadays with a new contract you can get some pretty good phones for really cheap prices
I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!
I got my G1 this past January... and while I don't regret it, there's no chance I'd buy this phone now. Every day I wish this thing had a Snapdragon in it. If you're really worried about contracts go with an unlocked phone for more money upfront - at least with T-Mobile, the plan will be cheaper, so it'll even out.
Again, the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.
I don't believe you'll be able to take an Even More Plus plan and then go to an Even More plan right off the back, at least not with your same number...but, If you sign up for google Voice at the same time as getting the g1, give out that number to everyone as your new number, when you upgrade your to a contract(if you do), that GV number will still be the same and you'll just have to change the number under your GV settings.
Would I buy a G1 right now? If it was 0-50, maybe 75 with an 8 gig sd card. We've got 2.2 running on our phones now as a daily driver. it makes/receives calls, what more you need from a phone?
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the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.
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^^ this i love my dream and i've had it less than a year but would trade up 2 a droid in a heartbeat (i still need that real keyboard even if the droids is crap)
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I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending.
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I do have one question... why not stay with Sprint? Their plans are competitively priced with T-Mobile, and they have excellent Android devices. The Epic 4G is due out soon, which should be an amazing phone by anyone's standards. And it will have a hardware keyboard, like the G1...
If price is the most important, don't go with T-Mobile. Get an unlocked T-Mobile phone and take it over to Simple Mobile at mysimplemobile.com. They use the same 3G bands as T-Mobile but you get unlimited talk, text, and internet for a flat $60/month.
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I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!
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He is not interested in a contract. He wants to get a used G1.
Well I Just bought one to hold me off until the "Project Emerald" phone comes out. It's better than using a non android phone. I think that using it as a temporary phone it will do the job.
Still an awsome phone but :] mTS 2 for 1 lol
If you don't care about having a fast phone, go for it. I just went from g1 to vibrant, and the vibrant is everything I wanted the g1 to be. The g1 is gonna give you a taste of what android can do, so you may end up wanting something better.
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well ive gone from a blackstone (WM) to a G1 and I love it. If you get the right rom it isnt slow and android is just great I love it....also devs are still making stuff for it all the time its great....
After a full week with the Focus and an sd card no problems everything integrated and working to perfection. Speed is awesome and I love it, but I am having a little remorse. I have seen the specs on new phones coming out with the dual core tegras and front facing cameras am I wrong to doubt sigining a renewal with att for the focus? I am really on the edge because my TP2 was functioning fine and I was holding off for wp7 really but like I said I want my phone to have a fair amount of options front facing camera is probably coming soon, and I would like that for family and such, and really not missing the keyboard too much due to the awesome virtual keyboard (as good as the iphones). Anyone else feeling like this or have any suggestions or a roadmap of devices. I have until the 11 of december to return the device I have it armored up so it still looks new on return if the remorse grows. Thanks for your thoughts and ideas
I know how you feel, but, with this kind of mindset you would never buy any electronic equipment ever again because there is always something better just around the corner.
I love my focus - I am very impressed with the device, more so than I thought I would be.
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I work for a company that is a direct partner with intel so we get roadmap stuff like 3-6yrs down the road kind of hampers my building for myself until I am able to test. I guess that is what hurts me in PC world I get my hands on new stuff and get an idea, I miss my cellular job so much now. Just that like I said just a couple of options I would like (basically two cameras and maybe a keyboard), I was told by a rep that copy/paste should be released this week as well (don't know how true that is). Trust me I love my focus as well and so do my kids and netflix I think I have a resource I haven't used at Samsung and will see if anything new he knows of.
I have no buyer's remorse whatsoever with this phone. As you can see from my sig, I have owned many of the top phones (at their release) and I can say that I am the least wary of this purchase. As previously said, it's pretty futile to keep worrying about what's coming up next because even if you buy that, it will be outdated by the time you get it to your house. There's always something better coming.
As for a front facing camera, if it's a big selling point for you, then yeah, you may want to look into an iPhone 4 or the Nexus S when it drops(assuming you're stuck on AT&T and that the Nexus S comes to AT&T in some form). Personally, I feel like the Focus has surpassed many of my expectations and I can comfortably call it my phone/OS of choice now. I originally bought it on a whim on release just to see what WP7 was all about and I love the OS now, despite it's flaws which I expect to be fixed.
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I have no buyer's remorse whatsoever with this phone. As you can see from my sig, I have owned many of the top phones (at their release) and I can say that I am the least wary of this purchase. As previously said, it's pretty futile to keep worrying about what's coming up next because even if you buy that, it will be outdated by the time you get it to your house. There's always something better coming.
As for a front facing camera, if it's a big selling point for you, then yeah, you may want to look into an iPhone 4 or the Nexus S when it drops(assuming you're stuck on AT&T and that the Nexus S comes to AT&T in some form). Personally, I feel like the Focus has surpassed many of my expectations and I can comfortably call it my phone/OS of choice now. I originally bought it on a whim on release just to see what WP7 was all about and I love the OS now, despite it's flaws which I expect to be fixed.
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With AT&T.. if you "want" to "cancel" service.. they will offer you options..an option..could be a new [email protected] new subscriber price...this is available every 8 months... this is a way to enjoy new hardware...which we all love...
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With AT&T.. if you "want" to "cancel" service.. they will offer you options..an option..could be a new [email protected] new subscriber price...this is available every 8 months... this is a way to enjoy new hardware...which we all love...
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I've never gotten such an offer, even when I attempted to break contract about a year in just to see what I could settle with them. 3 people on my family plan have iPhone 4s and love them, plus my company gives us a pretty decent discount on our monthly rates (although it's still sky high with 6 data plans). Every time I've been tempted to just pay out the rest of my contract and go to Verizon, who has fantastic service in my area, something nags me back from doing it like the ability to use SIMs in other countries since there seems to be more worldphone options on AT&T or a new phone comes out that I want to play with (iPhone4, and now the Focus...)
In short, damn you AT&T
a little bit of persuading and you can get ATT to give you what you want.
I got the focus for free. I was using the captivate before that and am now deciding which one I like better
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a little bit of persuading and you can get ATT to give you what you want.
I got the focus for free. I was using the captivate before that and am now deciding which one I like better
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Ditto! except for the deciding part, I already figured that one out quick. I still had to pay a $35 restocking fee when I returned the Captivate, though. Despite telling them the GPS was completely f'd and I need it functioning for how I use the phone, which was advertised as having...GPS...
I went to T-mobile and did a hands-on. The reviews from phone reviewers didn't quite answer my questions as a vibrant user. So I hope this helps. Plus I don't own it so I won't be justifying buyers remorse.
Bottom Line: Not worth the upgrade from a Vibrant. Especially off-contract. If you are locked into T-mobile and are upgrading anyway, it is worth it. All others should wait to see what the deal with the new Nexus phone is. You will NOT be upset with your purchase regardless though.
Screen: Huge and beautiful. Since it's not pentile, but it is larger than the Vibrant, it looks very similar. The GS2 might be SLIGHTLY less pixelated, but its not the crisp sharpness that I was hoping for.
Build Quality: What the Vibrant should've been. It's the best looking GS2 and it feels very solid. The gunmetal band is plastic as far as I can tell. It feels more solid than the Vibrant, but not nearly as much as an HTC phone. this should not be an issue whatsoever. And boy is it pretty.
Data: I live in a 42Mbps area and i speedtested about 4Mbps. The T-mobile rep said they got 8 yesterday. My vibrant got 2.6. YMMV obviously.
Speed: Quick, but with a live wallpaper and as low as 3 widgets, it started to drop in framerate. However it did NOT lag. things still load and run quickly, but not necessarily at an ideal framerate. especially the homescreen. I benched a 3200 quadrant after a memory clear. it wasn't loaded with smartbench unfortunately.
GPS: Didn't get a lock indoors of a mall (top story). 1400 meters was the closest. But I didn't get to test it outside. Grr.
Didn't get to test: Game performance, Codec Support, Sound Quality or Loudness, Camera, Camcorder, FFC.
I got my SGSII today and love it so far. The screen is beautiful, the gps worked out of the box and its fast as hell.
We'll see how I feel in a few days......
Now we just need some custom rom love
Edit: i get 13mbit/2mbit at work in minneapolis on 4G
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I got my SGSII tmo too. i'm loving it XD
everything works perfectly!
im gonna have to say im loving it too!
Guys if you have both vibrant and the new SG2, please check and reply if the batteries are interchangable.
i dont think the batteries are...this one has 4 gold pins and apparently NFC built into the battery (?)...plus it looks taller.
Since I loved the Vibrant, I'm sure I'll love this phone and it's extraordinarily enticing. But to those who signed a contract with the Vibrant, 2 years isn't up yet and they would have to pay full for the phone. I didn't sign one and I paid-in-full for my Vibrant and to get the GS2, I would have to spend $530. For that, I could buy a PS3 AND Xbox 360, or a fairly nice HDTV or desktop computer, for what I consider an incremental upgrade for a phone.
It's not that I think the phone isn't worth it, its just not worth it as an upgrade from the Vibrant.
i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/
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i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/
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sit back for the prime.i think it's going to be called the nexus 3.But I'm not sure, a friend told me that.
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i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/
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luckily there are no known issues with the SGS2 like there were for the Vibrant. Even in early reviews, the Vibrant was criticized for lag and bad GPS. It isn't the case with the SGS2, so you are good to go on that front.
As for the Nexus. It may not directly be associated with T-Mobile. However, at this point according to rumors, there should be a GSM version and it should support T-Mobile's 3G band. So the likely scenario is that you would buy the phone unlocked and then get your T-mobile account.
The issue with that is a full price phone and a full price plan. I urge everyone who wants to use T-mobile to take advantage of their off-contract pricing. That math has been done on this dozens of times, but if you buy a phone at full price and join one of their off contract plans, in two years, you will have saved hundreds of dollars. You even have the option to spread the fincancing of a [T-mobile] phone over the months. I'm sure with the nexus that you can finance with the retailer you purchased it from as well.
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luckily there are no known issues with the SGS2 like there were for the Vibrant. Even in early reviews, the Vibrant was criticized for lag and bad GPS. It isn't the case with the SGS2, so you are good to go on that front.
As for the Nexus. It may not directly be associated with T-Mobile. However, at this point according to rumors, there should be a GSM version and it should support T-Mobile's 3G band. So the likely scenario is that you would buy the phone unlocked and then get your T-mobile account.
The issue with that is a full price phone and a full price plan. I urge everyone who wants to use T-mobile to take advantage of their off-contract pricing. That math has been done on this dozens of times, but if you buy a phone at full price and join one of their off contract plans, in two years, you will have saved hundreds of dollars. You even have the option to spread the fincancing of a [T-mobile] phone over the months. I'm sure with the nexus that you can finance with the retailer you purchased it from as well.
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I just asked and checked a couple weeks ago, the previously called "loyalty program", which lets you split the hardware payment over 20 installments, is no longer available to non-contract-binding customers. Basically if you are not on contract ATM and want to utilize that financing option, you have to sign a new 2-year contract. Sux, right?
here's the link:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1674
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I just asked and checked a couple weeks ago, the previously called "loyalty program", which lets you split the hardware payment over 20 installments, is no longer available to non-contract-binding customers. Basically if you are not on contract ATM and want to utilize that financing option, you have to sign a new 2-year contract. Sux, right?
here's the link:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1674
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i can confirm this as well...