Use High Capacity SD Cards on old WM5 Devices! - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

can i just point you all to this patch :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344338
if you didn't know, the newer devices can use High Capacity SD storage cards from 2Gb up to 8Gb (as far as i know, the microSDHC go up to 8Gb just now, i hear 32Gb is possible but not currently available...)
this patch will allow your older devices to use the high cap storage cards, so you are no longer limited to 2Gb storage, great for sticking all your tunes and videos on the card!
time to throw away those crappy old mp3 players!

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the best 1GB SD-card ?

I need 1 gb SD-card for my MDA-II. Which SD-card is the best in concern to write-speed?
kimmie said:
I need 1 gb SD-card for my MDA-II. Which SD-card is the best in concern to write-speed?
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I dont think you can use 1MB card on your meching, but if you can i dont mind buying one as well
You absolutely can use a 1GB SD card in the II - I have been using a SanDisk 1GB SD card in mine for several months now and it works flawlessly. It is not the fastest card available, but I have never seen any adverse performance from it. Granted, I do not watch movies with my II on a regular basis.
Is there no comparision available of the write/read-speed of the different 1 gb-cards??
not that i've seen try searching on google
or try looking in the benchmark part of pocket mechanics if they have some 1GB cards there
I'd alsolike to buy 1Gb SD CARD. Does anybody now if the following are any good and if they would work in a XDA1
http://www.memory4more.com/show.cgi?inhalt.htm has 1GB SD-Card Fast 45x Transcend Ultra Performance 45X for 103Euro +tax +shipping
http://www.aria.co.uk has brandless 1GB SD CARD for £48.5 + shipping
2 512 or 4 256 would be a better path imho
first of all with the few 1GB cards the lack of competition would mean slow speed and high price
higher then more of the other cards
a flash card have a limited number of writes before it join its ancestors in the world after having a flash card of 1GB is a bigger investment so having it being worn out is more of a drag

Which SD Card to buy?

I want to get myself a new SD Card for my Magician:
I will choose between a standard 1 GB SD Card and the SanDisk UltraII SD 1GB
First of all, does it really make the difference if i take the UltraII? How much faster is it anyway? It would cost me almost 50% more.
Secondly, can the Magician even handle the Ultra? Are cards up to 2GB even supported?
Or should I consider a bigger card?
Currently I've got a 256 Sandisk standard....
SD cards
In general you probably won't see the speed deference between the basic and ultra on a PDA, because of the speed of the interface.
If you use a card reader (using USB 2 interface) then you will see the speed increase.
Personally, I've just bought a Sandisk 1GB Ultra plus card:
http://www.picstop.co.uk/Secure-Digital-(SD)/SanDisk-Ultra-II-(USB)-SD-Plus-Card---1GB
Will have to wait and see how good it is!
Apparently 4GB sd cards are coming soon, which should drop the price of the 1GB cards even further.
DS
If you going with a 2gb card - go with the sandisk ultra... I purchased an A-Data 2gb 150x and it does not work.
SanDisk Ultra are good cards.

Universal 8gb sd card

does anyone know if the universal will take the new 8 gb sd cards that are coming out. cause i hear that the new 8 gb card will be a different format than the current 4 gig cards. im acheing to buy the 8 gig but dont know if it will accept it at all
"Pretec 8GB SD card is fully compliant with SD 2.0 (SDHC) specification with access speed up to 20MB/sec. The maximum capacity of SD card is 2GB under SD 1.1 of Secure Digital Alliance (SDA) specification; however, by using file format of FAT32, many SD 1.1 host devices can use 4GB SD card which Pretec pioneered since 2005. SD 1.0/1.1 uses traditional “Byte Addressing” scheme which limits the maximum capacity to 4GB while SD 2.0 adopts “Sector Addressing” scheme which is the same with the technique applied by Mu-Card Alliance in 2004 to reach the maximum capacity of 2TB (2048GB). Pretec is one of the major founders and main contribution member of Mu-Card Alliance, who joined force with MMCA in June 2005 (www.mmca.org/press/Mu_Card_Final.pdf). With capacities of 2GB, 4GB, and 8GB, Pretec 8GB SDHC is now available for key customer sampling at unit price $299. Mass production is scheduled by Q4/2006."
I would love to know the answer to this - as I am very highly tempted by an 8GB SD card I've spotted for sale somewhere, my 4GB card is nearly full...
sl9 said:
I would love to know the answer to this - as I am very highly tempted by an 8GB SD card I've spotted for sale somewhere, my 4GB card is nearly full...
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I read around a little throw the internet and was pointed to some Universal reviews and they all tell thet 4GB is possible and 8GB as far as it is available. So I think the chance to get it running is at 80%
Take a look here for info:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,50985
and here too:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06090101pretec8gbsdhc.asp
SD-HC is a new standard, not compatible with the SD 1.1 standard that maxes out at 2Gb. SD 1.1 is what the Universal uses. The 4Gb cards you are seeing use a 'loophole' in the specifications.
In other words: 4Gb is the maximum you will see for the Universal. And no, this cannot be remedied by a driver update, as the SD controller is embedded into the ARM processor (AFAIK).
Hope this helps...

Micro Sd questions regarding capacity

I am perhaps hours from buying HTC Tytn..and from what I can see maximum size you can buy is 2 gig. Compared to my pocket pc (which had an sd and cf slot), I can put up to 4gig cards in its slot. I am going to really miss having a bigger capacity for extra programs, and memory for files. If they do come out with a larger Micro SD,, lets say eventually 4gig for example, do you think that all it would take to be able to adopt this new size would be to to a ROM upgrade (update) or is it written in stone that the max on this unit is 2 gigs.
Thx for any input, and especially any enlightenement in regards to larger micro sd's that are on the horizon.
stoker1 said:
I am perhaps hours from buying HTC Tytn..and from what I can see maximum size you can buy is 2 gig. Compared to my pocket pc (which had an sd and cf slot), I can put up to 4gig cards in its slot. I am going to really miss having a bigger capacity for extra programs, and memory for files. If they do come out with a larger Micro SD,, lets say eventually 4gig for example, do you think that all it would take to be able to adopt this new size would be to to a ROM upgrade (update) or is it written in stone that the max on this unit is 2 gigs.
Thx for any input, and especially any enlightenement in regards to larger micro sd's that are on the horizon.
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AFAIK there is no 2Gig limit and 4 gig would be OK, but lets here from others.
Mike
4GB is coming soon.. but will it work?
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/18/kingmax-busts-out-worlds-first-4gb-microsdhc-card/
Anyone know if that will work on a hermes device?
Is MicroSDhc a different incompatible standard?
I dont think wm device do support sdhc system so we are limited to 2 gb or at maximum 4gb but no sdhc....
i will be more then happy if anyone can prove me wrong...
PS:just a note somewhere i read that the maximum possible capacity for micro sd is 32gb but im not sure is it obtainable with sd 2.0 specification (sdhc) or with standard sd 1.1 specification....??
SDHC cards don't work in normal SD slots, like the Hermes has one. There is hope for non SDHC 4GB MicroSD cards though, because there have been 4GB SD cards and now also 4GB Mini SD cards available, that are non SDHC compliant and work in standard Pocket PCs. So let's hope for non SDHC 4GB MicroSD that will work in our Hermes.
Dandie said:
SDHC cards don't work in normal SD slots, like the Hermes has one. There is hope for non SDHC 4GB MicroSD cards though, because there have been 4GB SD cards and now also 4GB Mini SD cards available, that are non SDHC compliant and work in standard Pocket PCs. So let's hope for non SDHC 4GB MicroSD that will work in our Hermes.
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That's where th iphone looks good. Damn... 8Gb !

[q] sd card speed matters

Hello All I have a very simple question but plays a very important role in performance.
I got a 2GB SD CARD FROM SAMSUNG.
I have another LOCAL SD CARD 4GB
My question is will the SPEED Remain same to transfer or access data from both these SD CARDS.
I mean to say is will the LOCAL SD CARD BE SLOWER(since its not samsung branded) IN ACCESSING AND RETRIEVING DATA which will eventually slow down my phone or something like that.
I hope you all understood my question..will elaborate if u want me to.
hoping for a good answer.
Thanks
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cumon guys a small opinion would make a big difference
I am not very knowledgeable about this, but the class of the SD card matters when comparing performance. Here is a link that might help:
http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class/
i have noticed that when i changed sd card from samsung original (came with phone) to new transcend 8gb sd card, phone is now booting for 5 minutes....
It being a samsung card doesn't make the card more "compatible" with a samsung phone. A card is defined by the card, not by the brand.
martin.jeremic said:
i have noticed that when i changed sd card from samsung original (came with phone) to new transcend 8gb sd card, phone is now booting for 5 minutes....
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yeah so it means that performance has degraded right.
Also i think booting is not much worry as its done from ROM
so apart from booting what else is buggy or degrading performance,comparing both 2 GB and 8 GB
its on a card to card basis, if it is slower for him it doesnt mean it will be slower for you.
You should use a Class 6 SD card. Slower cards are not adequate.
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You can use a class 6 SD card, however, i do not think the phone is capable of handling such high speed cards, and thus the read/write speed of the phone will limit the speed.
Conclusively i don't think there will be an increase in performance!

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