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can anybody tell me how & what is the step to get the GPS works ?
thanks..
Put some GPS software on your Ameo and point it to COM4.
what are some of the best gps software for ameo?
I would think google maps with the ability to real time track your location would be great. Anyone try that?
Tomtom Navigator 6.
Coz it's free.
Edit - I in no way condone the use of pirated software, and I'll no doubt burn in hell for my sins....
Dopod U1000
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
wagger said:
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
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i got my DOPOD U1000 from Taiwan, and GPS works great. you need to set the post to COM4, signal is much better then the BT device i got before. It doesn't matter where you buy your device
wagger said:
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
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the Global Positioning System is global, and should work anywhere on the globe !! apart from in war zones (and near US military bases) where the signal is sometimes deliberately degraded so enemies cant use satellite guided missiles.
wu5262 said:
i got my DOPOD U1000 from Taiwan, and GPS works great. you need to set the post to COM4, signal is much better then the BT device i got before. It doesn't matter where you buy your device
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should i install any third party software beforehand?
Help
My Device can find the GPS on com 4 but it will not work with Google maps or pocket streets can any one help?
Thanks
Ian
I've got Tom Tom Navigator 5 working (using COM 5), but I've also not managed to get Google Maps working.
GPS is not working with GM
edintao said:
My Device can find the GPS on com 4 but it will not work with Google maps or pocket streets can any one help?
Thanks
Ian
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This is also a big problem in Germany - it's not possible to get it working with Google Maps. We tried everything (also to disable the GPS-Splitter and use Com5 which helps with some programs, but not with Google Maps).
So we gave up for the moment waiting for an update (maybe Athena, maybe Google).
Teja
alanplum said:
Put some GPS software on your Ameo and point it to COM4.
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Got mine working in TT6 by doing:
Other NMEA GPS Receiver
GPS Baud Rate: 4800
Com4
Is this what everyone else is doing ?
is the Baud rate correct?
Its quite chuggy/slow compared to tt6 on universal. i.e. 2-3fps as opposed to almost smooth on universal
Also, is it possible to change that tomtom icon thats on the today screen ? its so ugly and blocky - really detracts from the otherwise lovely Ameo screen
Mine is working great. By the way, i'm using MapKing10. When setting the port just select auto and the software should be able to detect the port in use. My unit can lock on into the satellite signal in less then 5s, thats impressive.
Hi
Does anyone know where to get a copy of the aforementioned TT6 for free? I had just bought TT navigator 6 with GB + Western Europe for my Mio A701 about 3 months ago but was gutted to find I couldnt transfer the licence to my new Ameo so i sold the boxed product with the Mio.
Anyone know where I can get one (strictly for "backup" purposes of course).
Cheers
Very easily found on torrent sites.
I won't give a link here as I assume that would be frowned on by the management....
ok, will have a look. not that familiar with all this torrent stuff!
ta
GPS Port
I looked in the registry and I found that com 5 is the official port. Strange enough com 4 and 5 work.
Getting GPS working
I purchased an A701 last week and had one hell of a time tring to get TT6 to work, even though MM worked fine. It appears that some software originally designed for ealier MS does not like Com4. I loaded a program called VisualGPSse, a freedownload, and set that to com 4 and bingo TT6 spang into life. Before using TT now I lauch that small app and it works fine. I,ll try and find the link if Google doen't find it for you.
ps. Does anyone know of an app that will allow me to use hands free, my Mio Rom R65 seems duff in this area.
getting GPS to work
I've installed my vehicle navigation software (copilot live v5) without any problem twice.
But when I tried to instal another GPS-based application called MobileGolfScorer, the system was simply unable to sense any satellite signal. Not only that, the system became extremely slow to the point of freezing up and not responding.
Then, I read about the post that says com5 is the default, so I said to myself may be I should use com5 instead of 4 in my start>setting>GPS.
After changing to com5, my MobileGolfScorer was able to recognise signal although the signal was extremely weak. Also, it was no longer freezing up. I thought that may be I've at least solved the problem and the weak signal may be due to the fact that I was not directly under the open sky.
The new problem is that after changing to com5, my copilot stopped working! When trying to reset GPS within copilot, it just said that I either did not have the GPS connected, or I was having the wrong com selection and/or baud rate. I tried all possible combinations of com and baud rate (including letting it find automatically) but unfortunately the results were the same.
Then I thought to myself may be copilot can only use com4. Since vehicle navigation is a more important application to me, I may have to sacrifice MobileGolfScorer until the problem is resolved. So I went to start>setting>GPS and reverted to com 4.
I then tried to get copilot to work but now it would not. MGS also would not work. So now I have two GPS applications that are not able to sense any signal. I can see the gsm led orange light(GPS) and green light(phone) alternating, which means that the GPS is supposed to be working, althoug the orange light disappears by itself after a while. The thing is, with or without the orange light, the software were not able to sense any GPS signal.
What do all these suggest? Any idea???
Chapter 2 to my story:
Since I'm also experiencing MD lost cluster problems, I had wonder if it could be that some system files used by the copilot program is corruptted. So I decided to hard-reset the unit and reinstall everything from scratch again. The first thing that I did after hard resett was to instal MobileGolfScorer. It did not work when I used com4 and baud rate 4800. Could not detect any GPS signal although the orange light was blinking. Then I installed Copilot live Pocket PC v5. This software has no problem detecting the signal right away. In my mind, it seems to suggest that the reason for copilot to have stopped working could be due to file corruption, while MobileGolfScorer still for some reason could not detect it. What I also failed to understnad is why for a very brief period it did detect very week signal (see chapter 1 above).
My fear: Once I was so confident that com4 and baud rate 4800 solves all problems. Now I'm less sure what is going on. If you're lucky, it works; if you not lucky it does'nt seems to work. You could be doing exactly the same thing entering the same setting but you could get different results. Is it due to file corruption? Why does it get corrupted so easily?
Let's hope some smarter mind could figure this out for us.
Its all about the sucky comport management in windows.
If one app is accessing a com port, no others can.
If windows GPS management is accessing the GPS on com5, then you shouldnt connect to com5 yourself. The whole point of the windows management is that the software port (often port4) it creates is meant to be able to be read by multiple programs.
However, most programs dont seem to like the software port. Eg, googlemaps.
I just turned off the MS GPS management and only use apps that directly attatch to com5, and only one app at a time.
Since the release of WM5 AKU2 onwards, MS has provided a GPS Intermediary Driver (GPSID) which allows GPS signals to be shared between applications.
This is controlled by the GPS Control Panel (which has to be enabled in the registry in some devices). The CP allows the Program Port to be specified, thus any app wanting a GPS signal can be set for the Program Port.
This worked fine on my N560, and in the release ROM of my SPV M700, allowing me to use CamerAware (a British speed camera warning app) and TomTom at teh same time. Without the GPSID, each program has to use teh COM9 hardware port, to the exclusion of other programs.
Since the new official HTC ROM, and also with Mun_rus's custom ROM, the GPSID doesn't work. The GPS HArdware port continues to function OK, and I can continue to use 1 program at a time with that, but any attempt at using the Program port fails to find a GPS device.
Apps that self-configure like GPS Tuner and GPSInfo fail to detect a GPS device on any but the hardware COM9 port, and TTN doesn't even list the Program port in it's available connection (which it was always OK with before). I've tried all teh Program Port COM settings to no avail. I do have the gpsid.dll file in Windows.
Has anyone else noticed this, or can anyone check? I can't think it's a local software issue as it has persisted through hard resets and new ROM's, and it's not hardware because the GPS Hardware port works.
is it normal to take 10 min to make a connection, on my external GPS, it take only 1 min o less.
alexk said:
is it normal to take 10 min to make a connection, on my external GPS, it take only 1 min o less.
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It can take 10 minutes to get a first fix from cold, but subsequent fixes are much faster.
That said, it's never taken more than 4 minutes for mine to get a FFFC. One limitation of the Qualcomm Chipset is that it doesn't cache positions as much as SirfStar chips, so a cold start happens more frequently.
I have the Trinity P3600
rom version 2.0.1.1
rom date 03/07/07
radio version 1.41.00.11
protocol version 32.74.7020.18H
Im also running windows media 6
I have followed all instructions I can find but still can not activate my GPS on the hand set , my friend has the Orange M700 and that worked no prob's.
please could someone give a good step by step NFO to help solve my problem
Thanks !
You have a GPS enabled ROM so you shouldn't have to do anything to 'activate' the GPS- it starts automatically, and transparently when a GPS aware application runs.
Which GPS application (s) are you trying to use? Make sure their settings point to COM9 and Baud 57600, then go outside with a clear view of the sky to allow the satellite data to download.
also wm6. I-Go first detected the gps at com 9 57600 but suddenly works only with 9600 !!!
any comments?
Some apps are a bit picky when it comes to baud rates- most will accept any value, but some prefer a set value, regardless of the hardware capability. Which version of iGO are you using?
I use iGO 2006 Plus on my WM6 Trinity and it links at the default hardware settings.
It is odd that iGO did accept the hardware settings before. As long as it works though, I'd not worry. The baud rate is irrelevant, as the actual data transfer is less than 1000 baud.
TomTom Navigator
I'm using TomTom & CamerAwar , when through all settings with fine tooth comb , and evan sat on top of a hill for half an hour and NOTHING . bEGINING to miss my 10 year old Nokia Banana phone that just took calls
chelski said:
I'm using TomTom & CamerAwar , when through all settings with fine tooth comb , and evan sat on top of a hill for half an hour and NOTHING . bEGINING to miss my 10 year old Nokia Banana phone that just took calls
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Reflash with another ROM. Must be a bad flash. Only explanation I have. Start with an official HTC WM5 GPS enabled ROM and see.
chelski said:
I'm using TomTom & CamerAwar , when through all settings with fine tooth comb , and evan sat on top of a hill for half an hour and NOTHING . bEGINING to miss my 10 year old Nokia Banana phone that just took calls
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Did the GPS work before the ROM update?
Could be a hardware fault.
NeilM said:
Some apps are a bit picky when it comes to baud rates- most will accept any value, but some prefer a set value, regardless of the hardware capability. Which version of iGO are you using?
I use iGO 2006 Plus on my WM6 Trinity and it links at the default hardware settings.
It is odd that iGO did accept the hardware settings before. As long as it works though, I'd not worry. The baud rate is irrelevant, as the actual data transfer is less than 1000 baud.
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using also i-GO plus. thank you for the reassuring me. i thought so. the strange thing is that it worked (for 45 km) with 57600 but on the way back..nothing over 9600!!
i don't think i changed something...
No the GPS has never worked ! ( YET )
Sounds like a hardware fault in that case
If you have a GPS Radio ROM (anything from 1.30.00.11 onwards) and a GPS aware app (TTN set to COM9 and 57600 Baud) and it doesn't work, either the GPS is kaput, or possibly the Radio ROM didn't flash properly.
GPS up and working
Thanks for the help , loaded up visual GPS and set the comms port & BAUD rate & that kicked in then switched on TomTom & now i'm not lost anymore
Hi, am I the only, who has unfunctional Igo8? Nobody have problem? I try patches, tips, AGPS, quickGPS and nothing, it fixes satellites and after second unfixed and it still repeats... Same with Igo2006, Igo 8.0.0 and 8.3.x... Can somebody help me? I never had this problems befor on Cruise and Diamond.
What GPS settings in IGO do you use? (port and baud rate)
Port 4 and no matter what speed, GPS is connected, but it is fixed after few seconds and starts cycling between fixed and unfixed with 0.5 second period... ROM is 1.40.405.3, I didn't see here anybody else with this rom
i use TT 7.910 and works great!
also try to use gps tuner (off road navigation) to try to have a fix... a see if is a compatibility error with iGo or else
Alekss_UH said:
Port 4 and no matter what speed, GPS is connected, but it is fixed after few seconds and starts cycling between fixed and unfixed with 0.5 second period... ROM is 1.40.405.3, I didn't see here anybody else with this rom
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Try this cab it'll improve your GPS (faster fix, more stable/reliable).
bubu said:
i use TT 7.910 and works great!
also try to use gps tuner (off road navigation) to try to have a fix... a see if is a compatibility error with iGo or else
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hi, i've installaed also tt 7.910 but when i tourn tt navigation still back from some second after that the tt go ok..
you don't have any lag?
Hi!
I'm using the auto settings for the gps. Its on port 1.
Yes i have a lot of lag. On the highway i lost an exit. I was travelling at about 120kmh, and the gps had a lad of about 700 mtrs.
I already returned mine. waiting for a new batch to arrive. Hope it comes with a new rom.
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hello,
with igo2008, version 8.0.0.41506, the lag is roughly of 1,5 seconds (120 kms/H). Port 4., Caud baud 9600. With TomTom, version 7.45, lag is 1 second (minor than with igo2008). Measured to same speed.
I,m from spain, Valencia, but this would not have to influence.
Any another opinion?
Best GPS setting I found so far
Guys, the best setting for GPS I found so far:
Go to registry, to path HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/HTC/SUPL AGPS
Set GPSMode to 1
Set EnableAGPS to 0
Do not change anything else. You can use CAB file jgeerts suggested, it should do exactly the same.
Set your GPS application to use COM4, Baud rate 4800bps and Type 1 (if your program supports this).
It will take longer time to get a fix (especially cold start), but it should be more stable and reliable.
About the unstable fix:
I also encountered that periodical fix / unfix. It usually happened only after cold start of GPS (it was not used for a few days). It helps to leave it on for some time and wait, after a few minutes periodical unfixing was gone. Maybe it sounds crappy, but I tried Artemis along and during that time it did not get ANY fix .
Thanx, but still no stable fix... I try cab, registry settings and still periodical unfixing. Often helps to disable gps, change speed and then in 90% it is fixed. Did you install Igo or only copy it to SD card, like me? Maybe I have to try Tomtom or wait for next ROM (which I can adapt for me).
additional info ...
Alekss_UH said:
Thanx, but still no stable fix... I try cab, registry settings and still periodical unfixing. Often helps to disable gps, change speed and then in 90% it is fixed. Did you install Igo or only copy it to SD card, like me? Maybe I have to try Tomtom or wait for next ROM (which I can adapt for me).
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I have tested it in two cars with TomTom v7.9, one car without special windows and one with special windows. on the first one I had no problems at all (no lag, stable fix) but on the other one I had a lot of lag and the fix is very unstable (periodical unfixing). I also have the same results if I'm using a real TomTom One device in these cars.
Are you using it in a car with special windows? If that's the case don't expect your Jade to work in it, the builtin GPS is not that sensitive!
Maybe I didn't say that fully exact, I have no problem with signal from satellites, I have about 12 satellites visible, from 4 to 10 active, fix about 15 to 60 seconds, but immediately after fix device get unfixed and it repeats forever... No matter how many satellites visible and active. I have to disconnect GPS, change speed of COM4 port and connect again. Often it helps, sometimes not.
iGO 8 on WIndows Mobile
HAve a dead GPS? Unlocked VoIP on WM 6.1?
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3067686&postcount=14
My jade has the same malfuntion too.
Gps has no more fix..
Till yesterday (around one month usage) all was fine..
Weird, This happened 12 hours after using Quick GPS funtion, downloading first time the sattelite Data.
Config. is ok ComPort 4 and boutrate is good enuf.
I am able to see three bars (three sattelite connection) in IGO8 GPS screen. But there is no red and yellow spots inside circle at upper left corner.
I wonder what is the relation with the voip etc.?
tom tom 7.45
i have tt 7.45 installed...it works ok but never has any sattelite bars at all - takes a while to fix ("poor gps reception) but then the planning etc goes well and TT works (no bars at all times). the lag is not there or very minimal.
xS
belgium
TomTom v7.45 -- Use version 7.9 instead !
gorila22 said:
i have tt 7.45 installed...it works ok but never has any sattelite bars at all - takes a while to fix ("poor gps reception) but then the planning etc goes well and TT works (no bars at all times). the lag is not there or very minimal.
xS
belgium
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Version 7.45:
No sattelite bars
Can not use the new V8 maps
Does not warn (sound) if you're driving to fast
Version 7.9:
Has sattelite bars
Can use the new v8 maps
Produce warnings (sound) if you're driving to fast
Lag has nothing to do with the version you're using. I've installed and tested them all (TomTom, Garmin) and all of them had the same issue (lag!).
When using it in a car with special glass, the lag was worse. Using it in a car without special glass the lag was minimal and not really a problem.
No GPS Fix - Solution !
The issue occurs when you have not used the GPS for a long (more than a week) time. I also experienced the issue.
It seems that disabling AGPS caused the issue. So I made a small modification to the GPS settings (registry values) and the problem is solved.
I did the test with TomTom v7.9 and the GPS seems to work fine (no lag when used in a car with no special glas).
In attachment you'll find a cab to do the registry changes.
You need to do a soft reset after installing the cab and you also need to run QuickGPS prior (or at least once every 6 days) to run any navigation software.
I have tested this CAB and still the same problem that Alekss_UH, it fix and unfix signal GPS each second aprox. in my Jade, in TT 7.9 ang IGO 8.3 same problem....
QTEQ said:
I have tested this CAB and still the same problem that Alekss_UH, it fix and unfix signal GPS each second aprox. in my Jade, in TT 7.9 ang IGO 8.3 same problem....
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Ths to jgeerts,
The same here.. tested.. but no use..
In outdoor, even some hours does not help..
If AGPS is on it is impossible to get fix..
The only way AGPS must be off, even so, 10 hours later refixing at the same place takes more than 10 minutes..
It is no concern w/ navsofts. I have four major navsofts installed, all have the same trouble..
It is not reliable..
is there any way to obtain support and sp from HTC ??
I have been 2 days with this GPS fix/unfix issue, and I think now it can be a HTC JADE / 3G ROM problem, besides several people is reporting same problem...
Visiting htc.com support:
HTC Touch 3G - English ROM for Middle East
HTC Touch 3G full English ROM is now available for download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience.
Date: 2008-12-15 Category: ROM Upgrade
but not valid for all models or languages.
Ok, so i installed TomTom navigator 7.450 on my P3600.
The program works fine, i can change settings, add maps,...
The only thing it won't do is find my GPS device. Whenever I want to view the GPS status, it just sais it can't find the GPS device.
Anyone know how to fix this? Or should i just go back to navigator 6...
Help would be greatly appreciated!
Have you flashed it's ROM or Radio?
If so what versions? Earlier Radios didn't have the GPS enabled.
Re
I just have the latest ROM from the HTC website.
Tomtom navigator 6 works fine so i guess there is no support for navigator 7?
Did you remember to point the device at the internal GPS?
It's probably under settings somewhere. usually you select 'Other devices' then look for 'GPS on COM9'. with baud rate 9600.
what do you mean?
when tomtom said i didn't have a device, i selected internal, but it wouldn't do anything...
if it's a general setting, tomtom 6 works, so i guess that's ok there
When I first install TomTom6 On my Trinity I had to manually select which GPS device to use. I select 9600 baud rate and the device 'GPS on COM9'. This was under the 'Other GPS devices' menu. I can only assume you're going to have to tell it which GPS to use. Or it might think you've got an external TomTom bluetooth dongle or something.
I haven't actually got TomTom7 yet, I'm just trying to suggest things it could be.
wow, it worked :|
thanks a million!
Glad I could help.
Now you can do me a favour and tell me how TomTom7 behaves on the Trinity.
How fast does it tend to get a signal?
Is there much of the dreaded GPS lag when you're driving along causing you to miss exits?
I might upgrade if it's any good.
Well, i haven't driven around much using it yet (just went on my motorcycle and had a little spin) but it reacted quite fast.
The first time it took less then a minute to get a signal.
I drove to a friend's place to drop some stuff off and turned off my pda while i was there. When i turned it back on, it almost instantly found my location! (must have saved the positions of the satellites or something)
It works quite fast and even tho there aren't allot of big changes, i noticed it worked allot smoother.
I mainly upgraded so i could use the new maps. I don't know if it's really worth the upgrade when you don't need new maps, but this made my day.
hi,
I to use Tomtom 7, and have used it on various Trinity's .... and it runs flawlessly.
the settings that never fail for me are:
'other NMEA receiver'
baud 4800
GPS on Com 9
my Tomtom version is 7.450 (9028) with UK v7.20.1802 maps
Yep, I used 9800 because of chimpsinties tip. Works flawless until now.
Going on a road trip next week, so I'll notice if it doesn't obey my wishes
Has anyone gotten mapshare to work with Tomtom 7 on Trinity? I just get a message that the device or map isn't supported. Of course, Trinity isn't in the supported devices list... but is there a workaround? I use TT7.450 and map WCE8.35.
i don't use any of the tomtom services, so i wouldn't know
chimpsinties said:
Did you remember to point the device at the internal GPS?
It's probably under settings somewhere. usually you select 'Other devices' then look for 'GPS on COM9'. with baud rate 9600.
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9600? I always thought the recommended baud rate on Trinity was 57600?
Mattster.
Well it works perfectly on 9600 for me and has always done.
chimpsinties said:
Well it works perfectly on 9600 for me and has always done.
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Interesting to know. I guess I'll try it and see what happens! To tell you the truth, I'm not even sure what baud rate even does!
Mattster.
Basically by setting the baud rate, you are letting the computer know how many signal's the device is going to be transmitted per second so they can understand each other.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baud
If you set it higher than it needs to be it probably doesn't make any difference, It will just be processing a lot of blank signals and thus possibly wasting effort.