Hi,
just spoke with a HP tech and he confirmed that there will be no upgrade to WM 6 for IPAQ 6900 series. HP does not care about there customers like always. They just want to sell new device with WM6 and get more money, they just dont give a rat about there current customers. The IPAQ 6900 can handle the upgrade, HP just dont want to bother giving us one. For my part I will never buy a HP product again.
same here, sad
To be fair, support is the longest and costliest phase of the development lifecycle.
That said, it is a shame that WM6 won't be made available, even at a cost like WM5 was for the 47xx. I've seen posts on here asking for ROMs, so hopefully somebody will develop a ROM that we can add ourselves.
i got a mail from HP saying the same, no support, tough luck, and oh, thanks for the money.
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Hey anyone know if and when WM6 comes out will there be a upgrade
to the new ppc os for current users of WM5? thanks
Neg
T-mo MDA (US)
rom 2.26.10.2
clocked at 250 (stable all the time)
thanks
That will be up to the OEM and the MOs (if a Phone Edition)...
No one can predict how it will play out.
After witnessing the WM2003SE to WM5 fiasco for Ipaq4700 users, I doubt there will be an upgrade. But thats just a hunch. I've read where a few guys have had early versions of "crossbow" and feel like its mostly cosmetic, at least right now.
WM6 is still a long long long ways off.
I highly doubt we'll be able o upgrade to it.
No one can say for sure though until it comes out.
WM6 Will be released to mnfr by the end of this year. As to consumer release well that's really up to them...but predictions are Q1/Q2 2007...
I bet it will be around the Q2 to Q4 of 2007. We all know Microsoft is never for sure about their release date.
And I doubt there will be an upgrade. Their going to ship it to manufactuers, so why would they release an upgrade, they rather put it on new devices and make more money.
I doubt it.
When was the last time Microsoft made a launch date for anything?
Mark my words, we won't see WM6 until the end of '07 at the earliest.
Well, they made a lauch date for Vista, but they kepting prolonging it, because of bugs. But very true, don't antiscipate it for awhile, move on with a better WM5 device. I'm thinking about selling both my TyTn and Wizard to buy the next PPC Samsung with it comes out. Don't have the model number in mind at this moment,
PM me if you want to sell your Tytn! I may be interested, haha :-D
I doubt T-Mobile will make it available. After all, they never even made 2003 SE available to the owners of the IPAQ 6315--That's first-hand experience!
Simple things like rotating the screen to landscape were impossible. Only certain s/w like Windows Media and BetaPlayer could do it.
Papizdono asked faria the following question :
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what phone will u buy next btw ?
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lol i was thinking the same thing.(when i buy my next phone, i will buy the same one as faria)
Maybe a hint for the manufactures and microsoft if they are following this, people want to buy devices that will have support,updates and upgrades.
The main reason i did not buy a HP/Compaq pda anymore after my 2215 was the major lack off support for the device. HP offered 1 rom upgrade without major improvements. After that they offered a few patches that ate up precious memory and then completely abbandoned the device.
HTC isn't that good in terms of their support anyway, thats why you have this lovely site
hehe.. had 2210 also before ... then i had HP 4700, too big, then i went for loox 720, found out i need a phone , then to S100, now to qtek 9100, and looking for a new one..... IPHONE maybe??? 9600 (tytn) ???? god knows.... want a VGA max 3.2" screen phone
LOL i think everyone on here will get what ever faria getts for his new phone just so we can have better software then the company gives out!!!
hello
im thinking of getting the hw6945 as a replacement for my wizard. there are couple of reasons that i havent done yet and this is y:
1. there are no unlock methods, sim and app.
2. not enough user support.
3. no new roms aku3.3.
4. no wm6.
5. current rom is sluggish.
is there a better forum for the ipaq or is it that this fone isnt that famous amongst ppl.
Please let me know asap since i need to make a decision now.
The sluggish part I can't really deny - but it's called the "swiss army knife" of pda/phones for a good reason. Rumors had it that the HP lineup was going to get the wm6 upgrade, which makes sense since the 69xx series is the "flagship" line and they usually have an upgrade path - most recently with the 47xx series. People will tell you that the 65xx wasn't upgradeable but that's because the 69xx was already in pre-production when wm5 was announced. I believe that's the reason why the 69xx is so slow - they just loaded it up with the new OS without upgrading the cpu. From what I understand the specs for wm6 isn't so high as to make the device any more sluggish.
There isn't much user support, but it's a business model not really for hacking.
What's in the new ROM that you want??
I believe it comes unlocked in many parts of the world.
Xilicon said:
The sluggish part I can't really deny - but it's called the "swiss army knife" of pda/phones for a good reason. Rumors had it that the HP lineup was going to get the wm6 upgrade, which makes sense since the 69xx series is the "flagship" line and they usually have an upgrade path - most recently with the 47xx series. People will tell you that the 65xx wasn't upgradeable but that's because the 69xx was already in pre-production when wm5 was announced. I believe that's the reason why the 69xx is so slow - they just loaded it up with the new OS without upgrading the cpu. From what I understand the specs for wm6 isn't so high as to make the device any more sluggish.
There isn't much user support, but it's a business model not really for hacking.
What's in the new ROM that you want??
I believe it comes unlocked in many parts of the world.
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i didnt know that they called the hw6900 series the swiss army of all PDAs. even if they did how come not alot of ppl have it or talk about it. i mean comparing to the wizard, there is so much support for it. anyways, what makes me confused is i love my wizard, but it has been with me for more than a year and i wanted to get another phone. i was thinking about the jasjam but since its the same concept at the wizard, i started to look for something else. you big screen, q keyboard, gps. the hp has all these but then it doesnt have what made the wizrd fun, and that is formating and trying out new roms. how do u like yours and have you had another windows fone other than your hp?
I try to limit myself to one pda/phone gadget at a time. I had the wizard and the magician before that - jasjar never excited me, it's just too huge and in the end you have to be able to talk on the phone without looking like you're holding a brick to your face. The only other phone I would use instead of the hw6965 would be the new treo 750. I'm pretty pragmatic really and I enjoy the good hack as much as the next guy, but the older I get the more I like my things to "just work" as opposed to messing around with it all the time. Treo doesn't have wifi or gps but I like the form factor. The wizard isn't really practical in my opinion - you always have to slide out the keyboard (which means that you are only allowed to be in landscape when you type) and consequently you have to use 2 hands.
with the upcoming launch of new wm6 phones, I'd hold off on any purchases if I were you.
hubono said:
hello
im thinking of getting the hw6945 as a replacement for my wizard. there are couple of reasons that i havent done yet and this is y:
1. there are no unlock methods, sim and app.
2. not enough user support.
3. no new roms aku3.3.
4. no wm6.
5. current rom is sluggish.
is there a better forum for the ipaq or is it that this fone isnt that famous amongst ppl.
Please let me know asap since i need to make a decision now.
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I have had both the 8125 and 8525. I then recieved the HP 6925 from Cingular and I haven't used the others since. In fact I just sold my 8525 on ebay. The 6925 is amazing. The GPS rules and can used with most GPS programs. The keypad works great and the screen cover is perfect. The only thing is that HP is really slow with rom updates. The processor is faster then the 8525 however you take a hit on the screen. Calls are clear and I love using one hand to make calls. I no longer slide out the keyboard. I am very happy and iPAQ's are built to last... Hope this helps..
Rob
Atom Life is in the market now! It is really attractive to me. However I heard ppl said that O2 wont do much about the ROM update and less ppl willing to custom make some ROMs for it too. That makes me thinking...is it worth to buy Atom Life? Should I wait for other brands release some devices with similar spec?
Sigh...maybe I should stick with my HP rw6828 and wait...
I have the same thoughts. I want the XDA Atom Life but I really want WM6, as far as I know the Atom Life isn't even realeased in Australia yet but it is very soon, around the 19/3/07 so it hasn't even been released and it has an old operating system, that would be like ordering a brand new computer and getting windows XP, it's that stupid and I really don't think O2 like to do any upgrades.
Does anyone think WM6 will be avaliable for this phone or even made for it by developers on this site??? I have an i-mate Jasjam and Jasjar and the differences between the amount of activity on those forum compared to the atom forum is massive, does anyone really buy the XDA Atoms, they say it was a big seller but the forums show differently.
seal,
Too late, i am already in the hole.
I have sold out my HP RW6828 and gotten the Atom Life last week. I am in HK and Atom Life was released in HK on Feb 28.
So far it is great! I am satisfied it more than my old RW6828.
Hello,
is the Phonepad for Atom (that you can find here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=262768) compatible with Atom Life? thanks!
I am not sure. I didn't install that program.
Would you mind trying to install it please?
I just got my atom life too, and i wasn't too worried about not being able to upgrade to WM6. New OS's take notoriously long before the majority of software become compatible. Just look at the time taken for most software to convert from 2003 to wm5. I am sure by that time most users would've changed a phone, or someone would've figured out how to install wm6 in atom life.
I just heard back from O2 and here's what they said.
"Dear Greg,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
With reference to the issue that you have raised below, as you have noted, currently released O2 devices run on Windows Mobile 5 operating system. Please be informed that O2 Asia is currently looking into the possibility of Windows Mobile 6.0 devices (no further news as of this moment).
We do value the feedback you have provided with us. We will attempt to relay it to the relevant department for review and future possible action. We thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com"
Once again no commitment. I tend to agree now with the above post, so many things still don't work with WM6 so I will stick to WM5 and skin it to look like Wm6.
Basically they say "we won't ever give you WM6 on already excisting devices, but in a while, when WM6 is starting to get stable, we may develop something that runs it". Atom Mark 4, I guess. And I totally agree, WM6 at the moment is far from leading edge. It's not even bleeding edge. It's moronic edge. Like WM5 when it came it's really only an Alpha system from what I have read in different tests. Like the original Atom. It took more than half a year from it came until it was truly a release version, not Alpha or Beta.
i allso don't think O2 will do it.. this is what i got from them.
Dear Ali,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
With regards to your query below, O2 Asia latest products (Xda Atom, Xda Zinc and Xda Stealth) are running on Windows Mobile 5, O2 Asia has not release any plans with regard to upgrading the Operating System of these product.
Should you require any further assistant, kindly reply to this email. Thank you.
Warmest Regards,
Yee Chan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: cyee#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products information, please visit http://www.seeo2.com
Interesting with technical support personell who writes worse english than most Norwegian 16 year olds... Don't they have Word to spell and grammar check their mesages?
Couple of things I have yet to installed into my Atom Life.
1. Phone pad.
2. Portrait/Landscape view icon. I believe some PDAs have this feature for easy conversion of screen display by just tapping on the icon.
Actually, I installed Phone pad but apparently, it didn't seemed compatible as I believe it's for Atom Exec. Is it due to version difference? As for the Portrait/Landscape icon, is there a link here for the upload? Thanks!
Dear Xperia-Users,
last week I called the german Sony hotline and asked the representative about the chances for WM 6.5 on X1. He said they are discussing it and it might happen.
To make SURE it happens I'd like to ask all of you to call your respective Hotline and inquire about WM 6.5 and tell them that you'd be delighted if they provided it for free.
Thank you,
J. Dähn, Hannover, Germany
Hi. I've sent an email to SE Spain asking for 6.5 update and telling that this will be a very good thing for Xperia owners. I tell also that if this is not made finally, that situation will making me consider other phone companies for my future device. I'll post their reply. Best regards.
I'm sure they know we all want a 6.5 update because we know they have their eye on this forum but i'll ring them when i get home and ask
I highly doubt they care, to be honest. They never had any customer support ever since the P800 came out.
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I highly doubt they care, to be honest. They never had any customer support ever since the P800 came out.
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Same I doubt they give a crap, we paid for it who cares about after sales support!
again just my own opinion
They got our money and now they dont care but i the long run... they have lost a customer because their customer service is non-existant
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Same I doubt they give a crap, we paid for it who cares about after sales support!
again just my own opinion
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I think they care. They always think a step ahead. How about the following customer thought: "Oh nice - they care about their existing customers, I will buy again!"
Plust it will cost them almost nothing to do it - X2 which they actively work on has similar hardware - won't be a big of a deal to reuse the stuff for older X1, with some missing goodies of course (or why would you go and buy X2 )
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I'm sure they know we all want a 6.5 update because we know they have their eye on this forum but i'll ring them when i get home and ask
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they want all x1 user update to X2~
SE used to be a market leader, the forebearer of innovation. Now we have to beg for a update to 6.5 on X1?! Is this the P990 all over again? C'mon, I'd rather have them develope a new rom (maybe with 6.5) with a proper UI and not the useless panels! They need to give us some reason to want to support their future devices and last time I checked I'm not in the habit of begging!
I received yesterday their reply and they told me the same that they told to @joerg.daehn. They said they are discussing the update.
Best regards
From the horses mouth:
Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson Xperia Support.
X1a will not be receiving an OS upgrade to 6.5. X2 a is going to be released soon with Windows mobile 6.5.
As part of Sony Ericsson's commitment to excellent customer service, we offer a wide variety of mobile products to suit your lifestyle. If you require more information, or have any other questions, please visit our website at SonyEricsson.com/X1 or call us at 1-877-7XPERIA.
Best regards,
Asim
Your Sony Ericsson Xperia Support Representative
Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications
Well, HTC is the next device then.
I sure wont get the X2 if they dont update x1 to 6.5 because it just shows their lack of support and if they treat x1 customers this way then the same is gonna go for x2...
my point exactly comeradealexi, the only reason why i am on the stock rom still is because i still have not found a clean rom (which i will be cooking as soon as i can find build 23017)
x1 support from SE was a pain, with panels that are still yet to be developed, i strongly believe x2 support will be the same...anyone want to buy my x1 feel free to contact me
why buy the x2 to get 6.5 when there are kitchens, chefs and roms?
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my point exactly comeradealexi, the only reason why i am on the stock rom still is because i still have not found a clean rom (which i will be cooking as soon as i can find build 23017)
x1 support from SE was a pain, with panels that are still yet to be developed, i strongly believe x2 support will be the same...anyone want to buy my x1 feel free to contact me
why buy the x2 to get 6.5 when there are kitchens, chefs and roms?
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my sentiments exactly, only reason why I'm hanging on to this baby is because I need find a suitable replacement. I dunno what to get, don't like htc cos they were instrumental in X1's poor build quality, nokia (nah!) to many cheap looking ****e (look at n97), apple - I dunno cos for a supposed smartphone it's not so smart - maybe if they change the design, throw in a hardwear keyboard and make the os customisable then a big maybe, samsung, lg, I just don't know cos I need something that's easy on the eye.
Plus HTC Support is not a dream either.
Not all of the devices will get the 6.5 upgrade.
Im not getting rid of the X1 just yet, well whenever I get it back that is
I hope many panels, programs and other goodies would be posted somewhere from the X2 so we can use them on our X1.
Does anyone get the impression:
X2 panels will onlly be compatable with X2, (or SE will make us think)
If not you may have to pay for new panels?
I hope the panels are put on SE site and can be downloaded to X1 and not specified to be X2 only. I just get the impression they will do this to try to force us to buy X2.
No facts here just opinion
I agree with your opinion.
X2 panels will not work with X1.
It looks like the people who bought X1 need to customize on their own or be satisfied with R3 and the pathetic panels that have been available.
I have officially given SE the last of my hard earned money.
Think we can just dump the complete x2 rom when it's released and get all cool stuff out of it and cook it in a nice custom rom(with wm 6.5)
if the panels do not work on the x1, i believe the panels will only work with the new panel manager which should work on the x1 with the respected drivers installed...
for SE not to give us the new panel manager is the worst thing they can do if the new panels cant work on the x1...i think that would be the worst kinda customer support a company can give...
do you think if apple changed dmg to dmh, then dmj, then dmk everytime they release a new version of their OS that their customer base would be as strong as it is?
thats why i dont like symbian that much either, i believe a system should be universal
who on earth want to buy a new xperia whenever new panels are introduced with a new xperia, for the sake of having the panels???? lets not hope this is the plan of SE