htc Touch Dual Keypad - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

New cab with working files (all three keyboards) no key appearing fixed and some other bugs (still a couple popping up though) can't wait tell JUVS and some of the other guys get more of the new apps working. Thank you theloanranger !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336587&page=10
Cab file was be switched to new one
Didn't see anyone working on this in this section (seems focused in Elf right now) thought I would put it out there, seems you can get it working on non touch devices
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29

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aaronsmckee said:
Didn't see anyone working on this in this section (seems focused in Elf right now) thought I would put it out there, seems you can get it working on non touch devices
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29
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works!
it works on my orbit, would like to have dutch language support though...

htc keyboard
can we have vga theme for key board?

no good on my hermes !

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no good on my hermes !
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damn i'll try on hermes too ....and on my artemis ....
but in my ce emulator it also didn't work fully correct....
sometimes i just get black buttons....

It works on my Trinity (WM6) but not the symbol page. But I'm ok with it. Like the 'intelligence' of this over T9, but the scroll left and right (on screen) button is a bit too 'small' and near the edge for ease of scrolling. If that can be fixed, it will be even more perfect.

no good for elf
when i set in french language they a are no letters on keypad
thank you

Anyone manage to 'perfect' this beta version?
While it is useable, without the symbol can pose some inconvenience when you need the symbols.

It works fine on my touch. To get the symbols in blue you press and hold the key. It takes a little getting used to so you don't end up with .. but it does work.
For those getting blank screens, this should only happen when you bring up the keypad without selecting a text field. Meaning if you are in a selected text box the keys should display.
Another bug I found was if you install this keypad and then choose another one that you have installed (pocketCM, HTK, etc), it will not display any text. It's like you are typing in white. The cursor advances, but no text displays. I had to un-install this keypad to get my other input methods to work.
It may sound a little obsesive, but I timed myself using this new touch dual keypad and my pocketCM skin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21) and every time I was able to type faster and more accurate with the pocketCM version. It was close (1:11 vs 1:08) for a couple sentances. I'm glad to see HTC putting a real finger operational keyboard on the Touch, but for now I will stick with pocketCM.

works on the mogul, install, soft reset...

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It may sound a little obsesive, but I timed myself using this new touch dual keypad and my pocketCM skin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21)
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Nah man, that's a great idea. I think a "type-off" of sorts is a good way to determine what's best; although everyone has difference preferences, I think 90% of us subconsciously type the same.

any status on a new version that works a little better?
thx.
e..b

working on Hermes!
Its working fine on my Hermes WM6. Still get the blank buttons when trying to use it outside an application. But within application (e.g. Onecontact, IE ect..) all working fine. Even symbol key is working fine.
Its a great keyboard (esp. the T9 version)...First keyboard where the buttons are large and responsive (iv used sooo many now!).

btw...dont forget to softreset after installation before use!

No symbols
I get all the characters and numbers but the symbols are all blank. I am in the UK. Otherwise it's okay. I personally don't like PocketCM because unless there is lots of free memory it just pops up the default keyboard for me.

is there any way to turn the xt9 off i used the keypad for 5 mins adn when i switched to the normal keyboard the xt9 was still there.. can it be turned off?

^^yeah I found that incredibly annoying, I LOVE this keyboard but I had to uninstall it because the T9 would be there even when using the hardware keyboard!

Can anyone post any pics of this keyboard?

Yeah...T9 still there on hardware keyboard is really annoying!

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Touch Keyboard-Keypad

I installed the Touch Keyboard-Keypad and now when I slide out the full keyboard, it is still using t9. I changed the keyboard on the bottom of the screen to "keyboard" but it still says t9 at the top of the screen and my full keyboard doesn't function correctly. I'm sure there is something dumb that I am missing, anyone out there have the same problem, or a solution perhaps? Thanks!
you know what i think there are different versions of this software ill see if i can get you a copy of the one i use on my titan. send me a pm to remind me. im not near a pc now.
Hey elgreek84, I'm having the same problem along with being unable to pull from the contact list when manually adding a To: recipient. Be nice to have this working as I really like the Touch Keyboard-Keypad.
i just installed the Touch keyboard-keypad today and when i slide out my keyboard it still says xt9 or whatever at the top but i don't seem to have any problems. i guess i got the "later" version.
one thing that's annoying to me is when i pull up the Touch keyboard i can't see what i'm typing. i use Threaded SMS and when i hit New i can see what i'm typing, but if i'm just responding to a txt i can't see if what i'm typing is messing up or if it's right.
Heres the one elgreek84 hooked me up with. I haven't had a chance to test it, but he says you shouldn't have the t9 problem with it. Good luck.
thanks guys..this is what i needed...awesome...
I can't seem to get this to run (it installs) on my XV6800.
always qwerty
ok that's great but I'd like to have the qwerty keyboard all the time, because in certain apps shows the qw er... and in others the full keyboard!! Any ideas???
This is working for me, but it seems that with it enabled, it seems to disable AutoCorrect/Suggestive text... Autocorrect is checked in input options, but it just doesn't work...
In general, I wouldn't mind since the xT9 is fairly intuitive, but when I'm typing with the slide-out, I rely on it to correct the words i frequently mess up, and moreso for conjunctions (dont=don't, etc). It's too much effort to actually hit the apostrophe. So - is there any way to make xT9 NOT active when the slide is out? Or even to disable xT9 all together? I have unchecked all the boxes in the xT9 options, but it still shows xT9 at the top, and autocorrect is still broken.

SPB Full screen keyboard? Anyone use it?

Just wondering if anyone has used the spb full screen keyboard or not on thier VX-6800. According to Handango it's compatible but Spb doesn't show WM 6 on it nor has it been upgraded in a long time.
The only reason I ask is that I'm looking for a full on-screen keyboard instead of using the small pop up one (with the stylus and hen-pecking) or the pull out keyboard and having to hit the blue button everytime I want to enter punctuation. It slows me down a bit esp when trying to respond in a meeting.
Thanks!
SPB Full Screen Keyboard
Yeah I use it both for my 6800 and 6900 running WM6.1. I initially got it for my touch to help offset the whole keyboard thing, and just loaded it on the titan for grins. It works.
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Yeah I use it both for my 6800 and 6900 running WM6.1. I initially got it for my touch to help offset the whole keyboard thing, and just loaded it on the titan for grins. It works.
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IMO, the price is a bit too high for what it offers. I'd pay 5$ max for such a keyboard, or it would be great as freeware
why on earth would you use an on-screen keyboard for a phone that has a QWERTY slide out hardware keyboard? I can type on my 6800 keyboard almost as fast as I can on my regular computer keyboard, it is nice.
that is why I am waiting for prices to come down on the Touch Pro...going froma 6800 to a 6900 (Touch) is a downgrade in my opinion since no slide-out keyboard.
on-screen keyboards are worthless in my opinion.
However - to answer you question though, most sites dont list WM6, because most phones still ship with WM5, but anything that works with WM5 will work on WM6, or at least everything I have tried for the past year, and I am installing new stuff 24/7
spb is a waste of time
The only reason to have an onscreen keyboard on a titan is to do one handed texting and the spb keyboard blows for that. Use the htc touchpal (I believe the touch comes stock with this keyboard), the only onscreen keyboard, plus when installed it is set automatically as your default keyboard so you don't have to position your thumbnail just right to try and select a different onscreen keyboard.
I tried it but I didnt like it. The buttons still arent big enough on the screen to really work as a keyboard. I dont have large thumbs, but I was constantly pressing the key immediately above, beside, or below the one I wanted to push.
I use the transcribe tool or the keyboard.
The newest version works great
With the new option for the full or half screen keyboard it's alot more useful for texting when you can't use the qwerty slide
I don't know what you are talking about it is the biggest pressable keyboard there is for the titan. You must be thinking of something different. I believe this is the one you really want.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cootek-touchpal-v2-0.html

Best Keyboard for the HD?

Hi I'm currently using PocketCM Keyboard which is better than the default but a bit frustrating when having to use !&- etc as you have to switch to numbers then to exclamations...
I was wondering if anyone have found a better keyboard (perhaps like the iphone with everything on the one screen) but still takes advantage of the screen size?
JetMouse, you know you can easily customise the layout of PocketCM Keyboard to suit your needs? It's as easy as editing a text file to control which symbols appear on which buttons. Since I did that it's easily become my favourite software on my Touch.
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JetMouse, you know you can easily customise the layout of PocketCM Keyboard to suit your needs? It's as easy as editing a text file to control which symbols appear on which buttons. Since I did that it's easily become my favourite software on my Touch.
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No I didn't know this - can you run me through how to do it?
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Hi I'm currently using PocketCM Keyboard which is better than the default but a bit frustrating when having to use !&- etc as you have to switch to numbers then to exclamations...
I was wondering if anyone have found a better keyboard (perhaps like the iphone with everything on the one screen) but still takes advantage of the screen size?
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I use SPB Keyboard (the new one, version 4.0) with fullscreen mode. The non-fullscreen mode is pretty much iphone-like. Don't know if it's "better" - to my taste the stock one is just perfect in all respects except for lack of support for Russian, which I need. Unlike most other keyboards, it has arrows which compensate the absense of the dpad on the device.
Sure thing:
Connect your PocketPC to your computer so you can browse the contents of the device.
Browse to \Program Files\PCMKeyboard
Copy English.layout (or whichever one you're using) to your computer's desktop
Make a backup of the file, just in case
Open the live file with Notepad
You can see four lines labelled keyboard_layout_#=
Edit the characters in those lines to change the symbols on the keys in PocketCM Keyboard
Each of the four lines contains a complete template for the keyboard. Rows are separated by the \n (newline) combination
There are some shortcuts to create special-purpose keys:
\2 seems to be uppercase
\1 seems to be lowercase
\b is backspace
\M is the symbol/text toggle button
\N is the enter key
There is a way of including smilies or combinations of characters on single keys, but I can't remember how. I also can't remember how to edit the row of quick symbols you see if you hold down the '123#?' button
Once you've made your changes, save the file on your computer and copy it back over to the PocketPC.
You'll need to choose a different softinput thing and then go back to PCM Keyboard to see the changes.
Don't forget to save the file somewhere in case you upgrade to a newer version of PCM Keyboard.
My favourite keyboard is Tengo. Allows very fast and forgiving typing. You might like to try it. I hope it works on Touch HD cos I have not got one to try on yet.
They have a free version, a commercial regular version, and a commercial thumb version.
the best keyboard for me is touchpal from http://www.cootek.com/
so many improvements
prospects said:
the best keyboard for me is touchpal from http://www.cootek.com/
so many improvements
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is it compatible with the TOUCH HD
Touchpal
I think Touchpal is the best.
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is it compatible with the TOUCH HD
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I just tested it, yes it is 100% compatible.
I love this keyboard, but I am trying to get it to run using the Dutch language. It is so blazing fast and accurate in English using the suretype layout, it's not even funny. I SWEAR I cannot type faster using a hardware keyboard, simply because of the fact that it is just as accurate, has big enough keys to type blind, and you don't actually have to depress a button so... works for me
Still stuck with the trial version though...
Only thing that I still gotta get used to is switching keyboards using a finger slide, I just keep pressing buttons instead of triggering the slide really cool function though as it saves button space and basically is just cool to show people
Thanks for the tip people!
EDIT:
Got my own language it in it now, easy... Also really easy to switch languages... Just pull down the ABC key and pick one. This does reveal some non-skinned ugly winmo buttons though, even while the rest of the keyboard is Diamond skinned.
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I think Touchpal is the best.
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Completely Agree, it is very usefull, Fast and easy to use Keyboard
TouchPal
I would at least try the demo of this. I personally prefer TouchPal to a Blackberry hardware keyboard. I am serious. The seplling correction and word prediction is simply amazing. Completely altered my view of software keyboards.
BTW- I am 6' 2" and weigh 220 with BIG hands, and Have been happy with TouchPal since the first Touch.

What keyboard software do you use?

Hi, is there a keyboard with 5 rows (numbers visible) that you can still accuratly press keys with your fingers? Because my passwords contain both numbers and letters and i have to enter them a lot :-( Thanks.
mdalacu said:
Hi, is there a keyboard with 5 rows (numbers visible) that you can still accuratly press keys with your fingers? Because my passwords contain both numbers and letters and i have to enter them a lot :-( Thanks.
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I recommend Fingerkeyboard. It is free, highly customizable and does a great job. See my signature for the link. You can create your own layout if you want. I think other users have already made a layout with 5 rows, but if not, you can make your own. It is pretty easy. You can also see my signature for a basic tutorial on editing layouts. You decide what keys you wnat, where you want them, and what characters you want each key to type. If you have questions, you can post them in the Fingerkeyboard 2.1 thread here.
Another good keyboard if you prefer sliding instead of typing is SlideIT by Dasur. It costs $15 and does a great job. You can type (i.e. slide) really fast with it. It also supports many languages. You can view their homepage here.
Thank you!
Chris Cross said:
I recommend Fingerkeyboard. It is free, highly customizable and does a great job. See my signature for the link. You can create your own layout if you want. I think other users have already made a layout with 5 rows, but if not, you can make your own. It is pretty easy. You can also see my signature for a basic tutorial on editing layouts. You decide what keys you wnat, where you want them, and what characters you want each key to type. If you have questions, you can post them in the Fingerkeyboard 2.1 thread here.
Another good keyboard if you prefer sliding instead of typing is SlideIT by Dasur. It costs $15 and does a great job. You can type (i.e. slide) really fast with it. It also supports many languages. You can view their homepage here.
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I ready that fingerkeyboard had problems with the HD2, can you confirm that it works well, and what version are u using?
Today i tried TouchPal. it is the BEST keyboard for the HD2 (at least for me).
It is so east to type accurately now.
i agree with Touch Pal i can write extremly fast plus a lower sensitive cab installation is just perfect - at least for me.
Zoomboard from vito
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I ready that fingerkeyboard had problems with the HD2, can you confirm that it works well, and what version are u using?
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one of the reasons that FK had problems with the HD2 is the speed of the capacitive screen. Some people correct that with the lesss sensitive Cab on this site. With FK go to options and delay the two hold times. I've set the left one to 400 instead of 250 and the right one to 250. Now FB works well on the HD2.
Chriss: can you confirm this and also tell us what the left and right one are for???
I installed TouchPal and thought it was pretty naff compared to the standard HTC keyboard, to be honest. I can type faster and mode accurately using the standard keyboard. In fact, this post was written using it!
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Chriss: can you confirm this and also tell us what the left and right one are for???
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Sorry guys. I got mixed up. No, I have not tested it on the Leo (I'm still looking into getting one ). I have only read the same reports that you have all mentioned here.
And @kuzibri: what do you mean with "what the left and right one are for"?
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Sorry guys. I got mixed up. No, I have not tested it on the Leo (I'm still looking into getting one ). I have only read the same reports that you have all mentioned here.
And @kuzibri: what do you mean with "what the left and right one are for"?
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in the options tab there are two response time possibilities, eg left and right one.
I've tried a few of the others now, but still easily prefer the HTC supplied keyboard. I just wish it had the same gesture support as the WM default keyboard.
just another suggestion for a good keyboard for HD2: Cliquick. This also rotates the screen to landscape when pressing the .,123 key in whichever program you're in. You can find it here: http://cliquick.com/
edit: you can also set it to be your default SIP in the option settings.
Anyone happen to try SlideIt (http://www.dasur.co.il/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php) on the HD2? If not, anyone feel like trying the demo & letting me know how it works?
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Anyone happen to try SlideIt (http://www.dasur.co.il/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php) on the HD2? If not, anyone feel like trying the demo & letting me know how it works?
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yes, I tried it. Its awesome in terms of speed and ease of use, but cannot switch to landscape mode. When you switch to landscape, e.g. in Opera, the screen gets messed up with this keyboard and a soft reset is needed. If I only was to use portrait mode, this would be the keyboard of choice.
Now that has become Cliquick. This even switches Word Mobile to landscape when you press the ",.123" key without using a third party sensor app like Gyrator or ChangeScreen. It comes with a 60 day trial and, if you do not want to buy it therafter, you can still use it for a max of 100 chars a day.
Let me throw ShapeWriter into the mix also.
Takes some getting used to but unce you've got it, it's much faster than a regular keypad (imo)
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Let me throw ShapeWriter into the mix also.
Takes some getting used to but unce you've got it, it's much faster than a regular keypad (imo)
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It's a pitty that this is only in English si I canot use it. BTW, it has great resemblance with Dasur's SlideIT. That one is blazing fast and easy to use (and supports several languages), but its main flaw is that it does not support landcsape. In this orientation it messes up the screen and a soft reset is needed. Otherwise this would be my nr 1 keyboard. Now that is Cliquick.
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yes, I tried it. Its awesome in terms of speed and ease of use, but cannot switch to landscape mode. When you switch to landscape, e.g. in Opera, the screen gets messed up with this keyboard and a soft reset is needed. If I only was to use portrait mode, this would be the keyboard of choice.
Now that has become Cliquick. This even switches Word Mobile to landscape when you press the ",.123" key without using a third party sensor app like Gyrator or ChangeScreen. It comes with a 60 day trial and, if you do not want to buy it therafter, you can still use it for a max of 100 chars a day.
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Sounds like the exact problem I have on my Advantage (the rotation issue). I've been the only one to report it, so I'm forwarding your note here as well.
I'll have to try Cliquick. Is this the one where you have to hit the same key several times to get different letters (like hit ab to get "a" and hit it again to get "b" ? Guess I'll find out.
Glad to hear the SlideIT works well except for the rotation issue, so if they can fix it, I'll be very happy.
I have noticed the latest version of Fingerkeyboard refusing to open when my HD2 (Leo) has come out of standby - can't recall what was running just prior so haven't raised it with the creator yet. I couldn't open another keyboard so had to take the battery out on the two occassions it happened.
A keyboard I have been using of late, as it worked well on my Touch HD is Zoomboard
I have tried both slideit and shapewriter and on the HD2 I much prefer slide it, its mainly due to how it handles the irratic behaviour of the capacitive screen, I mean HTC need to fix up its response, in shapewriter the line drawn with your finger tends to be scribbled everywhere missing letters, to much lesser extent on slidit, the keys are much easier to hit in slideit imo. the finger sliding keyboards are the way to go either way, I can type so much faster with slidit and takes only little parctice to get a real knack of it ... slideIT is fantastic

HTC HD2 Keyboard

A friend and I are looking to buy HD2s when they're released in the CDMA version, but a big concern of ours in the quality of the onscreen keyboard.
I have an HTC Touch Pro 2 at the moment, and he has a Samsung Omnia, and one of his main points-of-jealousy is my hardware keyboard.
I'm hoping the screen size will make an onscreen keyboard more bearable, but...
So, could anyone post comments about the keyboard, and/or post screenshots of the onscreen keyboard in both vertical and horizontal configurations.
I'm really hoping the onscreen keyboard is the same as the HTC HD2s...only larger...
Nothing will replace hard keyboard. TP2 is the best so far. Go youtube to review the HD2 virtual keyboard.
If you are fimiliar with TP2 keyboard, you will highly hate the HD2 keyboard. Even Swype or TouchPal Pro are not that perfect yet...
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A friend and I are looking to buy HD2s when they're released in the CDMA version, but a big concern of ours in the quality of the onscreen keyboard.
I have an HTC Touch Pro 2 at the moment, and he has a Samsung Omnia, and one of his main points-of-jealousy is my hardware keyboard.
I'm hoping the screen size will make an onscreen keyboard more bearable, but...
So, could anyone post comments about the keyboard, and/or post screenshots of the onscreen keyboard in both vertical and horizontal configurations.
I'm really hoping the onscreen keyboard is the same as the HTC HD2s...only larger...
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The keyboard is hit or miss, but if you did a poll on here, you'd get people mostly saying it's a hit!
I personally love it, but it did take me a while to get used to it. Also, going through the screen alignment process helps, as it gets the screen aligned to how you use it (as long as you do it in a natural manner, with your thumbs, and not using your finger as a stylus. Who uses their phone like that?? )
If you read the forums, you'll see there's some people that don't like the keyboard, but there's also a lot that originally didn't but have got over it. It needs a little practice, but I can type very fast on it now that I'm used to it.
Anyway, here's a couple of screenshots. Hope this has helped
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I saw someplace in my phone that you could change to 3 Keyboard modes, Regular phone keyboard, and full keybord and a nother one!
Now i cant find that anywhere!
I wanna use the "Regular" phone keyboard type .. Any one can help here ?
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I Didint wanna start a new topic, so i will borrow this one
I saw someplace in my phone that you could change to 3 Keyboard modes, Regular phone keyboard, and full keybord and a nother one!
Now i cant find that anywhere!
I wanna use the "Regular" phone keyboard type .. Any one can help here ?
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Not sure if this helps but just open a SMS, at the bottom you will see the symbol for your input. Tap it once and a small arrow appears to the right, now tap the symbol again but slightly to the right (ie/ tapping the arrow) and you will see QWERTY with an arrow allowing you to choose phone keypad or qwerty.
both arent bad and the predictive input is clever but i personally prefer Touchpal, i find it more responsive and fast (it keeps up with fast keystroke entry).
Thanks for the replay, i found the arrow after more searching in google! it was stupid of me that i didnt tap that! lol
i did tap the hole keyboard icon insted!
Now i can type much easyer
I used touchpro 1 before using HD2, still finding typing with hardware keyboard faster. Especially if you disable auto complete,word correction.
but I still love my HD2.
I have an energy rom. Would you happen to know how to switch back to the way the original keypad looked before the 1.8 client?
I enjoyed the X1's HW keyboard, but I must say, within a few days of using the HD2, I don't miss it.

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