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has anyone found a mp3 player for ppc that comes with a decent eq? windows media player sounds very poor and flat. a few others i tried came with a eq but it still sounded quite poor.
i use shure e5's with my xda2 and im i must say they sound terrific when plugged into a discman with a good eq but plugged into my xd2 its almost torture. all the low frequencies on ppc players are almost non existant. its not very exciting at all.
thanks for your time.
I use PocketMusic from http://www.pocketmind.com I have purchased the retail version but there is a freeware version available for download as well.
I also use the timer feature as an alarm clock waking to an MP3 sound track.
Ed
does that extra bass boost on the purchase version seem worth it? pocketmind was actually the most decent eq i could find on any of the players.
For example winampaq - port of winamp to ppc.
www.winampaq.com
pocket player is by far the best player for pocket pc, has the equalizers plus visualizations etc.
Marc
Just bought 2gig Ipod Nano for my girlfriend for chrismast.. i need to say this: comapre to my SPV M500, nano sound is so lame. I use the same sony headphone and the same mp3 songs. The nano got no bass at all. The Nano's equlizer doesnt work well, it make the sound more horiblle.
Magician + the bass and treble setting software, makes a good mp3 player. the bass is deep and the treble is great. just wondering how come there are so many people using Ipod with the stock headphones all over..
happy christmas
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Just bought 2gig Ipod Nano for my girlfriend for chrismast.. i need to say this: comapre to my SPV M500, nano sound is so lame. I use the same sony headphone and the same mp3 songs. The nano got no bass at all. The Nano's equlizer doesnt work well, it make the sound more horiblle.
Magician + the bass and treble setting software, makes a good mp3 player. the bass is deep and the treble is great. just wondering how come there are so many people using Ipod with the stock headphones all over..
happy christmas
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fashion statemeant. The included headphones are absoloute trash. I use my bose headphones, sweet.
For a £300 ipod, I would expect better headphones. Stop being bloody cheap appple.
I remember the good old days I used to get a case, firewire cable, charger, stand all included.
Who ever said something becoming popular was better. WRONG!!!!!
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Magician + the bass and treble setting software, makes a good mp3 player. the bass is deep and the treble is great. just wondering how come there are so many people using Ipod with the stock headphones all over..
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I don't know about Nano, but I bought Creative Zen Micro because audio section of Magician is too noisy and of poor quality. And I'm sure that special devices work better than multifunctional.
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Magician + the bass and treble setting software, makes a good mp3 player.
happy christmas
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Hi parklife,
Which bass & treble software are you on? I tried one, don't remember which. Found it through the forum, but it made the sound horrible full of clicks & ticks all caused by the bass setting. On the headphone it was ok, but navigation or phone functiond with front speaker :--(
Regards, M
Ps. good to hear from you again
yah, those white head phones are a complete fashion statement. i got the nano, and to be honest, i dont use it at all, i bought it the first week it came out and used it that entire week,then i saw too many other people using it, and realized i was just some other "guy" with an apple. and i haven't touched it since then. its rotting away in one of my drawers hehehe
well, about the jam, i just installed pocketmusic like 4 days ago and i honestly cant beleive how amazing this is. listen to mp3s, no need to carry another device around (even if its as small as the nano) and still have GREAT sound quality!?!?! i'm using the headphones that came with the jam and quality is superb... i'm not an audiophile so i'm not gonna ***** if it isn't out of this world. i also got the 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter so i can plug it into my car stereo. but the only problem... i got a 128mb MMC
but hopefully in two weeks i'm gonna trade in my jam for the k-jam and then i'll be gettin a 2gb mini SD :wink: (hopefully pocket music works well on wm5)
I use the jam as MP3 player in combination with MortPlayer. MortPlayer has a bass boost option which works great. You can find it in the effects settings. The Equalizer app mentioned isn't working that good because you often have to reactivate it manually. MortPlayer does this reliably and is for free.
As headphones I use Shure E2C which are a bit expensive (around 100 $) but sound very good with a bass boost. The mid-high sound quality is awsome. Also they isolate from environmental noise very well. In addition, I have the Expansys 2,5mm to 3,5 mm adapter.
What is concerning the sound quality of the Magician, I would say that a good MP3 Player definately provides better sound than it does. The sound is ok and powerful but there's some background noise audible also with high quality MP3s.
For me, I use TCMP player for all audio and video play back. It accepts almost every format that U can think of.
Now, I am planning to run my laptop in the car at a mp3/video file server using Apache(TCMP supports files playing over the network using HTTP). Therefore, # of songs I can play depends on the laptop's HD using bluetooth connection.
I,m understand what you are talking about I use the pocketmusic player, which have the best sound quality, and interface for me. I also have bought koss sporta pro headphones and 2,5mm to 3,5mm adapter, which produces great sound quality. When pda is used to listen music, I underclock it to 208mhz and it can play longer.
for me this is a new found side of the magician, i always new there were mp3 players and such but never gave them a shot. now that i am using them, can't believe i didn't do it before.
I still use my nano when working out and jogging because i dont feel like damaging my jam.
Also i started using resco radio. I connect activesync through BT and walk around myhouse while i stream my fav online radio, its great!!! it plays clear, no distortion, no buffering other than the initial buffer. Also resco radio has an option to record what your streaming, so a good song comes on, RECORD IT!! its great!
when i'm on campus i'll use the headphones supplied with the phone. but when i'm at home, i use my sony headphones (the ones that loop around the back of your head).
Me....i use the GS player. Though the interface wasnt that as goodlooking as the pocket music, or even the mort player....but the sound quality is just superb. So superb with the pocketpc audio bass and treblle enhancer software. In addition, i use the panasonic rp-hs-102. I jsut love the idea of having retractable wires......it just fits into my pocket perfectly.
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Me....i use the GS player. Though the interface wasnt that as goodlooking as the pocket music, or even the mort player....but the sound quality is just superb. So superb with the pocketpc audio bass and treblle enhancer software.
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As you should now, MortPlayer uses the GS Player libraries, so there should not be a difference in sound quality.
Anyway, there is a new Version MortPlayer 3.3 out, and the best thing, its free!
Just a question regarding the pocketpc audio bass and treblle enhancer software. Is there any way I can have it automatically "turned on" everytime I use my pocketpc? Tried putting it in the startup folder but still have to click the sliders before the changes takes effect. Thanks!
As far as I know, this is only possible with using a macro player like MortRunner which just imitates your stylus moves.
The equalizer software isn't needed, when you use the built in Equalizer functions of MortPlayer.
Guys..
apparantly that wonderfull bass/treble applet doesnt work on WM5!
I live by my magician with SONY NUDE-EX earphones.. like what parklife said.. it's totally awesome.
Now that i've gotten the Atom, I need to find an alternative way of getting that right kinda bass. Any help?
What's the best media player?
I'm currently using PocketMusic. It has lots of features the built-in Media Player doesn't have.
From the postings, it seems there are quite many other software: MortPlayer, TCMP,.... which i have not tried yet.
Which one is the best? In terms of:
1. User friendliness (thumb friendly, supports button mapping...)
2. Bass/treb/equalizer --> is this really important? It already sounds great without the enhancer.
3. Multiformat support (including video?)
4. Small footprint
5. etc.
The Magician makes good sound quality. I have a Sennheiser HD477, and also a Dell Axim X51v pocketpc. When comparing the Magician and Dell Axim x51v, the Dell Axim x51v wins with room to spare though.
I find the sound of the Magician a bit unclear, and not the best quality one would hope for.
Dell Axim x51v's quality is comparable to the high end Creative Media Players and the high end iPods with good earphones.
Magician is good, but not good enough in my opinion. And to be honest, WMP10 isn't the best media player available featurewise, but sound quality of WMP10 is definetly better compared to any 3rd party media player (on the Magician). I cannot hear the difference on Axim.
I would like to maybe use my 8125 as a MP3 player when riding my bike. I tried it out yesterday using the default Mobile Player and found it to be a bit unfriendly. Actually it was a PITA and I had to take off my helmet and gloves to get it playing. I finally figured out my MS voice command... "play everything", which also played ring tones. LOL Should have looked into it before heading out for a ride I guess.
Anyway, I've looked through the forum here and found a few "players" I might try.
TCMP
MortPlayer
PocketMusic
Question is this, does anyone use their phone as an MP3 player? Are there any issues I should be thinking about, i.e. does the battery drain pretty quickly, does the screen stay on and so forth.
Otherwise I have my eye on a nice SanDisk 2GB player that has a FM receiver that is of course designed to be a MP3 player.
I use mine as a mp3 player. Either with the headset or through my car speakers (K7 adapter + 2.5->3,5 jack adapter). I use only TCMP which is generally considered as the best you can get, and no significant battery drain, nothing like having Wifi on!
Same here. I use PocketMusic and TCMP. Both work very well. The larger buttons on PocketMusic make it easier to use your fingers to play the music when on the go. I use it for hours at the beach with minimal battery drain. I havent got Voice command to work with either player though, but i havent really looked into it very much either.
I use GSPlayer. It works well for audio and I can use the navigation pad and soft buttons to do all of the play/stop/next commands.
I have used WMP with Logitech wireless BT headset when riding a bike. Not the best player but I usually set up a long good playlist and then just let it play.
Thanks for the replies... I've been a busy bee today. Did all the prep work (backups/unlocking) to upgrade the phone and loaded a 217 ROM from the ftp. I am toying with MortPlayer and TCMP and I think I like MortPlayer so far... but TCMP looks powerful. In addition to loading some other toys... and the necessary games my wife and girls like to play.
In toying with MortPlayer it seems to do exactly what I want. I'm thinking it should keep me entertained on the motorcycle. I need to find some more comfortable ear plugs though... especially since I am wearing a full face helmet.
i know this is off topic, but i remember someone once posted a today plugin for WMP. can somone repost that?
i cant seem to find it anymore, thanks!
and i too use my phone as a mp3 player, but i use WMP with playlists.
Mort player is good, but when u go underground it seems to pause when it searches for a network.
pocket player was good too, but, certain mp3s has static on it.
TCMP is also good, but i use that for movies, so i don't use it.
Hi guys!
I am thinking of investing a few dollars in a 2.5" to 3.5" plug (I think I found a good one) and I want to start plugging in my Wizard to my portable stereo.
This way I can listen to playlists by the pool, in hotel rooms, etc.
I was wondering if you guys have any advice or words of wisdom?
Are you happy with Windows Media Player?
Can it use playlists created in WMP from the Windows XP edition?
Sound quality okay?
Does the machine freeze at all?
I reallllly don't want to buy an iPod, so instead of experimenting, I figured I would ask you guys for your opinions on the matter.
In terms of the plug adapter, I know there are other threads about this. I am looking at the one at Pocket PC Techs.
I wonder if any other media player app allow cross-fading between tracks. I don't think the WMP does.
I look forward to any advice/comments/ideas before I get started!
Thanks!
Mike
Mort player
I use Mort Player and it works well. It is freeware which is a bonus. I splashed out a whole 79p (That's 79 whole English pence) on an adaptor and the sound through my Creative headphones is great. I only use it as a back up for my mp3 anyway but it works a treat.
use tcpmp instead-its got eq/pre amp etc and it plays more than just mp3/wma.
think I payed about 1.50 for my adaptor. I recommend Koss Sparkplug headfones, they sound excellent 8)
Thanks guys!~
And hey... those are some cheap adapters! I found ones that were more expensive.
Do you have any specific model numbers?
I heard that many make the sound in Mono, or don't work well with out four-pin out Wizards...
Thanks!!
Mike
2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor
The adaptor I purchased was very cheap (and some would say nasty) but it works well with a decent set of stereo headphones. Indeed I was surprised at the sound quality compared to the standard phones that come with the device.
The adaptor on the maplins site may be found:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/search.aspx...criteria=2.5mm Stereo Jacks&doy=8m8&worldid=3
I have also been using my pda as an mp3 player for a while now. I use it mostly for podcasts, I have two ways of using it.
1) I have an adaptor I bought from expansys about 2 years ago for my first PDA Phone, and it happens to work with each I have owned since. I listen in the car with a tape deck adaptor and also with headphones.
2) I use WM5 Storage and connect it to my work laptop using a spare USB cable. Using WMP on my work computer I listen as if it was just a spare drive in the system.
I got my adapter from a Hong Kong dealer via eBay and it's great. Proper 4-pole mini plug and it even includes a tie-clip microphone in-line so you can use it as a hands-free in the car or whereever. Works great, and seems well enough built for the price of about 90p plus £3.50 postage! I wish I'd got a couple more in the same package now, so I could have one connected to the home Hi-Fi, etc.
Wanna go splits on the postage on a few?
Andre
I shelled out about 70 USD for a Jabra BT stereo headset. Best ever investment I made. Although it's pretty big and more like the studio headphone the sound quality is really good. Plus I use my phone handsfree and I can pick up calls easy as the music pauses and resumes after the calls.
If you have the money, you should try it. It's liberating.
the 2 ways i listen to music is
1: at the gym with my jabra bt620 which i love because of the great quality and no wires and
2: at work with my music docking station from brando seen here
http://shop.brando.com.hk/imatekjammusicdock.php
cant go wrong for 35 bux shipped and the sound is great for the price and has volume control right on top. and it matches the wizard perfectly.
you can answer calls with it also. check it out.
I just went to the local electrostore and bought the adaptor for € 1.
I'm also using it in my car to listen to radiostations on the internet.
I'm using a cassettetape with a headjack on it, put that in the adapter....
Great sound on my carstereo!!!
Hey... there is some cool information in here.
Thanks guys!
I am checking out the sites now... I'll also take a walk over to the local electronics store or Radio Shack. Maybe a simple adapter will work for me...
If not, I'll order one!
And that i-mate K-JAM Music Dock looks neat! Are you SURE it's good with a Wizard? Is the bass decent? It's nice!!!!
Thanx!
WMP stinks for PodCasts, it never remembers where you left off when you previously listened. It is great however for A2DP.
I had bought the Logitech iPod wireless headset for my old iPod, and once I put A2DP on my MDA I paired the Logitech with it and presto, I had a great headset that worked in stereo with the MDA.
I use WMP when I need to be able to control the selections (next, previous, pause, play) with the headset. Otherwise I use TCPMP for listening in my car, since it will remember where I left off the last time I listened. I have a cable that plugs directly from my phone to the AUX input on my car stereo, and the sound is fabulous.
I would like to see someone (Microsoft, take a hint!) make a media player that puts bookmarks in songs so whenever you come back to that song/podcast you can have the choice to pickup where you left off, or start over from the beginning. With podcasts and audio books, I always want to pick up were I left off. This is where iPod kicks butt over everything else! And I miss that part of it. (my son needed my iPod more than I did to "fit in" with all the kids at school, so he has it now)
I highly recommend if you don't have A2DP yet to get it, either by downloading the A2DP cab file or upgrading your MDA to the AKU2 ROM that will have it. Then get yourself some A2DP capable headphones like the Motorola HT820 (I've heard good things about these) or the iCombi AH10 headset. Both will act as headphones as well as have the mic to talk when someone calls.
I tried Mort Player and was unimpressed with it, but give it a go, you can always uninstall it. Same with GSPlayer Beta for WM5.
WMP stinks for PodCasts, it never remembers where you left off when you previously listened. It is great however for A2DP.
I had bought the Logitech iPod wireless headset for my old iPod, and once I put A2DP on my MDA I paired the Logitech with it and presto, I had a great headset that worked in stereo with the MDA.
I use WMP when I need to be able to control the selections (next, previous, pause, play) with the headset. Otherwise I use TCPMP for listening in my car, since it will remember where I left off the last time I listened. I have a cable that plugs directly from my phone to the AUX input on my car stereo, and the sound is fabulous.
I would like to see someone (Microsoft, take a hint!) make a media player that puts bookmarks in songs so whenever you come back to that song/podcast you can have the choice to pickup where you left off, or start over from the beginning. With podcasts and audio books, I always want to pick up were I left off. This is where iPod kicks butt over everything else! And I miss that part of it. (my son needed my iPod more than I did to "fit in" with all the kids at school, so he has it now)
I highly recommend if you don't have A2DP yet to get it, either by downloading the A2DP cab file or upgrading your MDA to the AKU2 ROM that will have it. Then get yourself some A2DP capable headphones like the Motorola HT820 (I've heard good things about these) or the iCombi AH10 headset. Both will act as headphones as well as have the mic to talk when someone calls.
I tried Mort Player and was unimpressed with it, but give it a go, you can always uninstall it. Same with GSPlayer Beta for WM5.
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I highly recommend if you don't have A2DP yet to get it, either by downloading the A2DP cab file or upgrading your MDA to the AKU2 ROM that will have it. Then get yourself some A2DP capable headphones like the Motorola HT820 (I've heard good things about these) or the iCombi AH10 headset. Both will act as headphones as well as have the mic to talk when someone calls.
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Taking into consideration what I have below, which cab file should I use. I have a HT820 and am just chomping at the bit to get a2dp. Thanks.
A2DP and a bluetooth stereo headset is definitely the way forward! It's made my MP3 listening much more pleasurable than before when I used a 2.5 - 3.5mm jack and had to have my Wizard in cable length of my ears.
More expensive, but definitely the way to go.
MortPlayer + Car Screen Skin = Awesomeness.
I use PocketMusic, works a treat. The free version's okay, I tried the bundle and whilst some of the bits are good (the today-screen plugin) it wasn't enough to warrant paying for it. Main thing I like about it is that it looks good, and also can browse for choons directly from a network drive (which WMP, Mort and others didn't seem to be able to do).
Thanks for all the interesting info, guys.
I am excited to go look for a 2.5" -> 3.5" adapter that will work.
I actually had a dream last night (this morning) that I found an adapter and was impressed with the sound, having plugged it into a portable player.
(yeah, pretty sad that this is what I dream about.......!)
M
You need to get out more.
I got my adapter from eBay. Cost £2 IIRC.
Check out manyui on eBay. He sells adapters for tons of phones. I ordered one for my MDA from him and it works great.
Any searches on audio quality return phone call quality.
What about the audio quality, judged against a stand-along mp3 player, using a good pair of headphones (e.g. Etymotic Research, Sennheiser 580's)?
(No comments about Bluetooth audio, please. The current choices aren't anywhere near the two phones listed above...)
Is the output powerful enough? Flat frequency response? Low noise?
I was hoping that, with an 8525 + 4GB microSD, I could dump my current phone AND my flash mp3 player...
What sounds good to you for a MP3 player? There is no way any phone in the market can sound as good as a standalone player.
Why not? It all depends on the choice of components. I can imagine that the analogue-to-digital convertor chip in the Hermes is better than that in many cheap and regular standalone mp3 players.
You have to test to make sure though, and then there's personal preference...
check SONY ERICSSON W800i
check SONY ERICSSON W800i
i think all mp3 players are just like the built in mp3 players on your phone. I'm using my xda trion with logitech headphones and the bass and audio is thumping man! I swear, i see no difference from my friend's ipod video, my logitech earphones give me all the bass and treble and whatever else u can think off, it's awesome! depending on the mp3 (quality etc), when i listen to really good downloaded songs, i feel like i'm hearing it live! it's a matter of earphones/headphones man! whatever ur mp3/ipod/whatever is, if they got crappy earphones/headphones, u'll get crappy sound, if u use ur hermes with good quality earphones/headphones, i swear u'll enjoy ur audio experience
Good application to use
A good application to use is pocket player by conduits. Costs a couple of bucks off handango, but with the skin of version 2.8(available on their sight) it is soooo easy to use. I can use it with out a stylus. You can't listen to more than 100 mp3s in a week. Sure you probably won't be able to store your entire library on the pda, but it is so convienient. Plus, if you have a pda/phone, you won't miss a call at the gym!
Check out conduits pocket player though... make sure to get the skin of version 2.8 or 2.0 on their website.
Short answer.. No
I have a few different sets of decent headphones (Shure e2c and e3c, and Grado's SR80's) and the phone doesn't sound anywhere near as good as my iRiver.
I use my Jasjam as my music player and I find it great. When a call comes in the music pauses and then when your done it starts no stopping you MP3 player then answering your phone all just one simple operation. I find it great!
i also picked up the 8525 after my dell jukebox's headset jack started having problems and causing undesireable amounts of static. loved that player, had it for many years, replaced HD to give it a few more gigs of space, and i have absolutely no complaints about the 8525 as an mp3 player. i use headphones all the time and i havent had any problems with it.
the phone slows down a little bit when using BT and windows media, but a lot of the time i'll use the standard headphones and it runs fine. its real nice to be able to have the music pause automatically so you can take a call
4gig isnt as much as a lot of mp3 players, ie i used to have a 20g, but as long as your a little more selective in your songs you can still virtually have an endless supply of music (ie picking the songs you really like instead of just droppin full albums into it)