Tytn II - Orange UK - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Just spoke to someone at Orange today who prooved most helpful. She said she couldn't find the handset in their list and I mentioned that several friends had spoken with retentions and got orders placed. So she rang through to retentions and came back to me 15 minutes later telling me that the handset will be available to retentions in 4 weeks and available to the normal Orange sales channels by the end of the November.
This did seem very definate as I was basically saying if they weren't I'd be leaving and going to a network that could satisfy my requirements.
So question is do we wait for another 4 weeks then ring retentions or do we jump ship for another network... namely T-Mobile who has a great data plan but crap network coverage (where I am at least) and an obsession with pink?

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Whoever told you their coverage was crap is a secret Orange employee.
I switched this time last year and have seen NO difference.
They share the same footprint in the UK, and T-mobile own more base stations than France Telecom (Orange) in the UK so have more bandwidth.
Also, I save about £35 a month by signing up to Web'n'Walk and having unlimited HSPDA bandwidth.
Be brave brother, be brave...
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobi...-off-line-rental/t-mobile/mda-vario-iii/spec/
Good luck,

Up till about 6 months ago I had a TMobile Vario 2 as well as my SPV M3100 and the TMobile coverage was less (in my area as I said) than the Orange...

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O2 Online stops selling XDA Exec

I was looking at the O2 site yesterday hoping to pick up an XDA Exec but now I do not see any mention of it. The handset is no longer available. Is it still available in O2 shops ??
Looking at the price of the Orange device (M5000) O2 seem to be offering the best deal at the moment.
Yep still on sale in O2 shops.
Got mine yesterday - i'd advise phoning ahead first to save a wasted journey.
Its in the Business section under PDAs.
It is curious as to why.
Could be that stock is low for personal users OR O2 have realised that this is not really a personal device and is much more suited to business users. Unfortunately this leaves O2 with only the IIi that they can sell to the personal user, this could induce a fast track tot he next device.
PS XDA IIi now only £79.99 on any contract
Ordered mine friday..
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/o2/7839.htm
Stock is shifting like weldfire, so get in there quick..... o2 said the device was 149 online but 199 in the shops, got mine for 90 on a 35 quid contract which i'll be dropping down as soon as i can.
Got mine through store upgrade, £149 on £30/month (12 months). O2 store in London Wall str. Not bad. After last year out-of-stock experiences with the IIs and IIi, this time I went to the store and got it straight away no need to hang around waiting for the postman Always miss them.
Only out of stock?
I phoned the O2 "online help" number this morning, and spoke to a chap who assured me that it was only off the web page because it was out of stock. He was unable to give me a date for new phones arriving in, but was certain it would be coming back for personal customers.
Works for me, as I still have two months of my "3" contract to run...
Fingers crossed he knew what he was talking about.
regards,
/alan
Again, it must depend on who you get through to as I was assured on Friday that they had a lot of stock left of them.
I wonder if certain centres are advising different customers differently for any reason.
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atp said:
I phoned the O2 "online help" number this morning, and spoke to a chap who assured me that it was only off the web page because it was out of stock. He was unable to give me a date for new phones arriving in, but was certain it would be coming back for personal customers.
Works for me, as I still have two months of my "3" contract to run...
Fingers crossed he knew what he was talking about.
regards,
/alan
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I sent them a email and they said:
"Thank you for contacting O2 Customer Service and showing your interest in our product and services.
The O2 XDA EXEC 3G phone will be launched on 17 November 2005. For more information in this regard, please contact our Sales team on 08702 257 879. They are available Monday to Friday from 8:30am to 9:00pm and Saturday from 10:00am to 6:00pm. Calls are charged at national rate."
Don't know what that means.
The girl on O2 said the phone were coming on the 16th, maybe o2 might put them back on the 3g contract...
Its back at the online store for personal buyers
Mine fell 2 feet from my pocket on Saturday and died instantly - no visible damage - after 3 weeks of use. I phoned O2 for a replacement and they said they were expecting stock on 17th Nov. The website states that you should take the phone to your nearest O2 shop but the shop told me to ring customer services since the phone was under a month old.

XDA Mini S/Wizard in O2 Stores Now!

Just picked up my nice Free, No charge not cost, XDA Mini S (O2 UK Name for Wizard) rom O2 store Uxbridge, Get em while there hot boys, they said they don't know how long they will be able to keep up with demand on them,
Regards Ashe
What tariff did you get it free on? Thanks.
Incredible, i just payed 240Euros here in Paris on a one year contract with Bouygues telecom. If its indeed free, thats a heck of a deal!!!!
I paid 209€ with Prolongation of my contract with T-Mobile! :roll:
But I don´t care! :wink:
I´m glad to have it.. and its great!
Just ordered my XDA mini s from o2 Germany for 279€ in prolongation of my o2 Genion pay monthly contract. I just can await to recieve it, hopefully a o2 representative told me the Wizard is still in stock
Mine was free on T-Mobile
In each country the extent to which mobile phone operators subsidise devices differs. In the UK, TMobile is being very aggressive and buys customers away from other networks, as TMobile was notr very successful in the UK until last summer. O2 is not as aggressive as TMobile but successful, and Orange is even less aggressive -not sure it is as successful as it once was.
In Europe, I think they tend to subsidise handsets to a lesser extent than in the UK. It reflects the intensity of the competition where in the Uk you've got 4+1 networks, plus a myriad of MVNOs, making a total of around 10 to 12 operators. Penetration rates are also high. In France, penetration rate is lower -around 80%- so there are other ways to grow than by stealing customers of competing networks. Plus, there are only 3 real networks plus a small number of MVNOs, making a total of only 6 networks.
That's the answer to the points raised above!
Best for business 250
Hi again all
I got mine free from O2, because I am on best for business 250, little known fact but if you are on a Best for business tarrif and have more than one number attatched to the account you are guaranteed a free upgrade of virtually any handset on each number so I know get two two totally free upgrades a year at six month intervals, great.
Now just going to use some the money I saved on the Wizard to buy the new Krusell case & Lazer/Led keyboard, oh and put my current XDA's on EBAY for another healthy profit.
Regards Ash'e.

Vodafone 1605 VPA Compact III in UK?

I am currently with Vodafone and want to upgrade my handset to a 1605 VPA Compact III or equivilent. Is this handset available in the UK? I know some members have one.
I have been into Vodafone shops, they have never heard of it. I have tried looking on the Vodafone website as well, no luck. Phoned Vodafone's upgrade department, they have the Qtek 9100 Qtek 1640 and VPA Compact (but not III) Any ideas how I can get the 1605 and from where?
Thanks.
Ask for the HTC v1605 or the QTek v1605. That is what it is called on their systems (When I ordered it it was the Qtek v1605, but on the order form it is HTC v1605). For a detailed review, look here. Also just call the upgrade dept, as you should get one of the newer ones (HT631x S/N).
Thanks for the info bydandie. I'll phone them later. Do you mind telling me how much you paid for the upgrade?
I got mine on ebay from phone_efficient_ltd for £320
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Thanks for the info bydandie. I'll phone them later. Do you mind telling me how much you paid for the upgrade?
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I got mine new, for £72.95 on Anytime 250 STC.
Shop around on the T-Mobile website and work out which deal you could get with them then ask Voda to match it. If they can't, then unless T-Mob have a poor signal, I'd recommend moving as the WnW on FlexT is awesome! 8)
(BTW if you go down the T-Mob route, I think we could both get a referral fee IIRC)
Vodafone upgrade dept did have the handset, listed as HTC v1605. Spoke to one of the loyalty/promotions managers after I suggested I'm tempted to leave, he said the absolute best deal I could get the handset for is £200 on my current tariff Anytime 200. Even if I increased my tariff they couldn't drop the price of the handset. It's T-Mobile or Orange unless Vodafone decide to offer me a better deal.
bydandie, can you PM me your T-M referral details in case I do go with them.
i got my one free on a 35 month contract from voda, go in store and ask for a discount. make sure you go do a Voda staore that has a business deptartment.
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i got my one free on a 35 month contract from voda, go in store and ask for a discount. make sure you go do a Voda staore that has a business deptartment.
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bobby, did you sign up as a new customer or just upgrade?
I got mine as an upgrade from voda in august for £80 on my existing £22/month tariff. Nobody had heard of it at that time and looks like they still haven't really. Am on my 4th handset now, first one was early S/N and had screen alignment problem almost immediately, next two were later S/N and didn't have screen problems but had unresponsive keys, 4th one is worryingly back at the earlier S/N but so far has no screen problems at all and all keys work perfectly 3 weeks in.
WhiteLightning said:
Vodafone upgrade dept did have the handset, listed as HTC v1605. Spoke to one of the loyalty/promotions managers after I suggested I'm tempted to leave, he said the absolute best deal I could get the handset for is £200 on my current tariff Anytime 200. Even if I increased my tariff they couldn't drop the price of the handset. It's T-Mobile or Orange unless Vodafone decide to offer me a better deal.
bydandie, can you PM me your T-M referral details in case I do go with them.
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Thats a terrible price, I got my Vario2 (the T Mobile brand name) for £29.99 with an 18m FlexT 35 WnW Plus contract for £47.50 per month. Comes with £5 off for the first 3 months as a business customer as well.
Now these handsets are £500 on Expansys without a contract so over 12months I'll have paid £599.99 and ended up with the same phone (that comes with support), £180 call/text allowance a month and 3Gb net access on a 3.5G aka HSDPA or 2.75G aka Edge network, and can get through to customer services within 2mins.
I never got through to Orange even when I was a business customer in that amount of time, in fact I got fed up with the 30min wait trying to get through to orange in the past so I'm very pleased with T Mobile.
I think they have realised that net access will drive the 3.5G/HSDPA technology forward in the short term not video calls or streaming tv services, which will account for their fantastic WebNWalk packages. (a very happy customer so far)
This morning Vodafones upgrade dept offered it to me for £39.99 as long as I stay with them on my current tariff for another 18 months. Seemed a fair deal so I ordered it. Arrives tomorrow morning
Mine arrived yesterday. Cost me £25 for the phone so that I didn't leave I'm on Anytime 200. The first time they quoted me a price they said over £200 so I just asked for my PAC code and I got transferred to the retension department who said I could have it for £25 on my current tariff. I did mention that you could get it from Orange free on a £30 a month contract.
If you want one off contract (SIM FREE) then I am selling my spare one here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....90044423776&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT&rd=1
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Jhadur said:
Mine arrived yesterday. Cost me £25 for the phone so that I didn't leave I'm on Anytime 200. The first time they quoted me a price they said over £200 so I just asked for my PAC code and I got transferred to the retension department who said I could have it for £25 on my current tariff. I did mention that you could get it from Orange free on a £30 a month contract.
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That's really good You on 12 or 18 months?
Blackberry
Does this phone work with Blackberry SIM's?

Vodafone or O2 or TMobile?

Hi guys,
After weeks of research I've decided on the HD2. I'm with Orange at moment and plan to leave this week when my contract expires (good timing)
Was hoping for your advice/experience on which network to go for, with regards to HD2 Rom versions, i.e. cleanest and most stable.
Any other pros and cons, other than obvious price plans etc, would be grately appreciated.
Thanks,
Raj
I recommend getting your contract through an online deal such as those offered by MobilePhonesDirect as not only are their offers cheap but you get an unbranded and unlocked handset straight from HTC. I got mine on T-Mobile Combi 30, 18 months, £34 a month for 700 minutes, unlimited data and unlimited texts. t-mobile are also the most generous network when it comes to data: you get an 'unlimited' allowance of 3gb compared to the paltry 750mb offered by networks such as Orange AND there are no extra charges for going over it. Supposedly you can only browse and not stream or download once you hit your usage cap but this is not something I've ever managed to do after being on web and walk for years.
From the experience I have received this week I cannot recommend Vodafone at all. After twice failing promised delivery days this week for an HD2 on 24 month contract they added insult to injury their customer car team phoned me last night to ask how I was "enjoying" my new phone. Er, what phone? The gentleman was very apologetic and said they did have a very few HD2 phones in stock and he would dispatch one straight away. Sure enough, within minutes I got a dispatch text message saying my phone was on the way. This was later followed by a message from DPD couriers to say that had a package for delivery this morning. Sure enough, shortly after 9 am a package arrived complete with a brand new HTC phone...
...an HTC Touch Pro 2 !!!
I phoned Vodafone straight away to be told they couldn't find out what had happened as "their systems are down" but I was assured it was just as good a phone. WTF? I said I wasn't happy and wanted the phone that I had ordered and not an older, slower, cheaper model. I was promised my account manager (it's a business contract) would call be back after 12pm when their system were working. She didn't (third time this week she has not returned my calls as promised).
I contacted them this afternoon to find out what happened and was (again) promised that the correct phone would be delivered as soon as they had more stock in (no mention of where the three earlier ones that had supposedly been allocated to me had gone to!). I explained that my number was due to be ported from my current provider O2 on Monday over to Vodafone and as such would no longer work on my current phone which is SIM locked to O2. "No problem Sir, use the unlocked Touch Pro2 until the HD2 arrives and we''ll collect it afterwards."
Anyway, after reading the comments on here from people who say they have deliveries guaranteed from O2 I decided to phone them to see if they could improve upon their offer to upgrade my expiring contract with O2. Sure enough O2 assure me they have then in stock and will deliver on Monday, what's more they only wanted an 18 month contract, whereas Vodafone wanted a 24 month contract for the same monthly outlay.
I was going to switch to Vodafone upon recommendation, but my purchasing experience with them has been anything but good and I certainly don't won't to enter into a 24 month contract with such a shambolic outfit.
Thanks for that, looks like 1-0 to TM
Had a look at TM tariffs, and the one you've got leoni looks pretty good. One thing I can't find easily on provider's sites, is whether MMS are taken from your text allowance or charged seperately. Orange charge for MMS, and also texting when abroad.
I know my questions sound a bit basic, but I've been with Orange for about 12 years......and its time to leave
Anyone else care to share?
Cheers
Have to agree on not dealing with Vodafone under any circumstances.
I've always had good phone service and good experiences with customer support at T-Mobile, but haven't had any dealings with O2 in recent years.
No real difference on the ROMs - the carriers have thankfully been easy on customisations this time around, and differences seem to be mostly removed apps (youtube, wifi router etc.) that you can add back in later anyway. Check the thread for the T-Mo ROM, and there should be details coming in of the others too, now they're starting to be available.
In other words, ROM specific differences really shouldn't be an issue, go for whoever offers you the best value price plan and network coverage where you plan to be most the time.

(Lack of) Orange loyalty if you want to move to EE - experiences

Hi,
I have been with Orange for 12 years, with the current contract being in high 30/low 40 quid range. So far I've been reasonably happy with them and thought I'd upgrade to a HTC One (from a Sensation) and take advantage of EE's LTE (as my phone, etc now brands itself as EE). (contract end in 1 week)
Basically, no matter what I discuss with them they will not offer a single thing (not a penny, add-on, anything) if I move from Orange to EE (even though they are the same company more or less). They have said that because I would move to EE I would effectively be a new customer and that 'there is no loyalty offers/bonuses for existing Orange customers wanting to move to EE' and 'EE is a new company, we offer no loyalty offer to customers because all EE customers are new".
Can this be true? They offer no incentive for Orange customers to move? It'd not like I wanted to move to something the same price (it would likely to 5Gb contract as I would use it tether for work (London area)). I asked about 12, 18, and 24 month contracts and they said the same. It's the price stated on the web, no discount, no handset discount, nothing (18 month isn't on the web but you can ask for it and it's a £5 more a month plus the cost of a 12 month handset price!). I even pointed out that CwP and P4U had (slightly) better handset price offers on their website and they didn't care. Also said that if I was to treated as a completely new customer there was very little incentive to stay with an EE company then - again, nonchalance in all calls (three in total - upgrades and retentions)
I've search the other threads and they don't seem to answer my specific question, which is: Has any who moved from Orange to EE got them to give you any type of loyalty offer/bonus based on your time as customer on Orange?
Cheers
PS - are EE really doing that well at conversions...?
Are you within 3 months of contract end date? If not then they will not offer you anything. I tried.
Can't you stay with Orange and buy a phone without contract?
Screw what you can out of Orange on a new contract then, after 2 weeks I think it is, you can get a free transfer to EE.
Edit: last time I read the Ts n Cs I think the only drawback was that you had to sign for a new contract with EE that had to be the same length or longer than your existing contract.
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Dharkan said:
Can't you stay with Orange and buy a phone without contract?
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One problem with this though,
He wants to use LTE. . . faster internet, Orange and T-Mobile cant offer this in the Uk as of yet (Even though there the same Company as EE) and dont know how long we have to wait, so the only way to get 4G LTE is switching to EE. . . It Sucks. . .
I feel sorry for ya man, but on the same subject, if you went to CPW or P4U or something, wont you be able to get a better deal? Free handset etc etc. . . i find these companies never give me a Upgrade deal, so i always get a PAC code and take out a new contract. . . unless you spend and extra £30 a month on top of your bill they dont wanna know!
There is no such thing as loyalty and hasn't been for a long time. Shop around & save yourself some money.
I moved from TMobile to EE and got the HTC One and 5gb of data for £46 for 12 months. 4G is amazing with the phone.
How did you get 5gb for £46? That's the tariff for 3gb
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EE are **** for customer service.
Also their contracts are a god damn joke! 41 a month and still pay for the HTC One!? Can piss right off!
Mate if you want LTE I would go with O2 or Vodafone as they will have LTE by Summer
OR buy the phone SIM Free, then get a SIM Only 12 month contract from EE £26 a month 1gb data unlimited minutes/texts
Hi,
Thanks for all the responses. So, it does look as if Orange really aren't offering anything at all for existing customers to switch to EE. A shame as before with Orange I have always got some sort of loyalty deal (it's got worse over the last three years mind). Normally no handset fee, up to 10% of the monthly fee, and 18 month contracts at the same price as 24 (and once a free MMS package but then never managed to resolve the issue that I couldn't send MMS on that phone throughout the whole the contract - I did try(and apparently so did Orange, hmm))
Just to reply to some posters.
I only have just over a week left on my contract.
It'd be great to get a the phone not on contract but £500+ is a pretty big chunk to pay in one hit (I know you end paying it anyway, but it's easier if spread over the months)
I don't think Orange or T-mobile will ever get LTE, EE as the parent isn't going to let them IMO
I had thought about this, getting it on Orange and switch but their offer only lasts until 30/04, and knowing Orange the delivery will either get delayed until 01/05 or they'll be some hidden gem of a T&C. I might look into it though and if it works out cheaper try and talk to them. (though the cc these seem to be so gleeful that can't do anything for you...). Also, because I am looking for a 18 month deal it might be difficult.
£46 for 5Gb! If that's a 12 month contract that £16 cheaper per month! How!?! Did they charge you for the handset? I'd double check with them that you're on the right contract (I've had '18 month' deals that when processed became 24, leading to two weeks of irate conversations and then them finally conceding - sometimes I think they have a policy of mistakes and obstruction in resolving them in the hope you give up, but maybe I'm being old and cynical.)
I had talked to them about waiting for O2 or Vodaphone (I had thought about 3 but not sure if their rural coverage is any good, I do spend a bit of time up in Yorkshire) and they don't seem to care a jot. Also O2 and Vodaphone have announced their intention to make 4G a 'premium' product so can't see their prices being dramatically different. Especially as HTC One on O2 and Vodaphone with 4Gb (of 3G data) is £47 pm (24 months). I have a feeling that as EE have set their prices at this the level the others won't be dramatically different (think the big energy companies). Three might be an option but as I said I do worry about outside of urban area coverage. Also O2 4G spectrum purchase wasn't great IMO.
Anyway, if anyone has managed to get anything more (or not), let me know or feel free to rant about Orange/EE. If I ever do manage to get a deal I'll let you know so you use it a bit of a stick to beat them with (but I wouldn't hold your breath).
Pads: I haven't looked today (well, this week to be honest) but check out TopCashBack for cash-back deals.
I switched from 3 to Orange to get HTC One on day of release. Went through P4U initially on £36 for 24mths with beats plugs. Next day saw TCB offering same deal, through P4U for any 18mth contract AND £101 cashback. Phoned P4U, changed to the 18mth with plugs AND they threw in £100 cashback as well.
All because the cretins at 3 refused to offer me the phone for free (I'd been with them on top contract for 10 years.)
There's no point me paying for 4G ad I'm in Wales. We might get it in 2015.
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Quite a while ago (ive been out the country a year and a half, so probably 3 years) I moved from Orange (to T-Mobile, so that doesn't help you) because they wouldn't offer me a sensible deal.
You're better off on a cheap tariff and over spending rather than getting an all inclusive package if you want a good deal.
Screw 'em, just go with the best deal you can find.
Better wait for other companies to roll out 4G, the monopoly of EE is just stupid and the prices are rip off.
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I finished my 3 phone contract with Orange (after 10+ years) at the end of my contract. They basically shrugged their shoulders when I said I must have unlimited data. So ended, preordered two HTC Ones from mobile phones direct. Because of HTCONE delays just took temporary PAYG Sims for a month. Now have 2 year T mobile full Monty 1000 mins talk, unlimited text and data for £31 a month phone free. Only 3G. but who cares they haven't got 4G where I am anywhere. Walk with your feet everybody loyalty means nothing in phone business. PS keeping original numbers is easy now.
I think Orange are overpricing their 4G and when people start getting their over the limit charges are they going to get some stick.
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