gmail is pulling down stuff in my spam folders - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I configured the WM6 email application to pull my gmail, however it's not pulling just the stuff from my gmail inbox, but also stuff that's been moved to my deleted/spam folder via filters i've created.
what i'd like to do is
- just pull stuff from my inbox
- only keep 1 or 2 days worth of gmail messages on my phone
Is this possible? I tried the java gmail client but it was awful.

Try emoze for gmail.

skenobi said:
Try emoze for gmail.
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Well, I installed emoze but have no idea how to use it. I went to download the user manual from emoze.com but it says it's not available because it's being updated.
I'm using the gmail gateway, no PC involved at all, I ran emoze and entered my username, password and configured the various options, after that it said something about synching, reached 100% and now nothing.
It just shows my username, a greyed out send box, a sign out box, log, settings and accounts button as well as an OK in the upper right. I have no idea how to get or send email via gmail with this app.
Sheesh, the MS application actually pulls down email from my outbox when i send it from my PC. Nice.
I also registered for the emoze forums but need to wait for someone to approve my application.

ok, i think i see, looks like it created a mail account in messages by itself. however i didnt really get a chance to look because my battery is almost dead. apparently i'm going to have to tweak how often messages are pulled. my battery is fine all day with every 10 minutes for exchange, but adding emoze drained it in a few hours.

robroth said:
ok, i think i see, looks like it created a mail account in messages by itself. however i didnt really get a chance to look because my battery is almost dead. apparently i'm going to have to tweak how often messages are pulled. my battery is fine all day with every 10 minutes for exchange, but adding emoze drained it in a few hours.
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If you click on the Accounts button and then Open Account (there should already be one account installed there already by now), you can select "push every 30 minutes" for instance. When it's not pushing, emoze goes into "sleep" mode. So battery drain should not be much of an issue. Incidentally, you may STILL select "Always On". Your mileage may vary i suppose...
And you can select your own range of Active Hours. Mine is only on manual i.e. only turned on when I'm on the move. Otherwise, I have my gmail account (the one that's tagged to emoze) to automatically forward email to any of of my OTHER gmail or POP accounts (the ones I use on my desktop at the office daily)
Not as ideal as "always on" blackberry email, but I stopped paying for my blackberry account coz, long term, it just ain't worth it for me. (I was using my Blackberry account on my Dopod 838Pro)
One man's meat... (and all that).

Does Gmail calendar sync work? I keep selecting that checkbox, but when I go back to that screen it's unchecked and no calendar events are being pulled down.

robroth said:
Does Gmail calendar sync work? I keep selecting that checkbox, but when I go back to that screen it's unchecked and no calendar events are being pulled down.
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I assume the calendar sync on Emoze is supposed to work with Google Calendar (?).
In any case, I don't use it since I only sync the onboard organizer items (Calendar, Tasks, Notes, Contacts) with my Outlook PST file at home or office via Activesync/PocketInformant .

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push gmail doesn't work properly

Very happy with my new HD2. However i have a problem with my push gmail, or maybe it is an exchange problem in general, don't know. When i set up an exchange account with google server, i should be able to recieve push email, sync my calender and contacts and so on. On my previous phone (samsung omnia2) it worked like a charm. Somebody sends my an email on my gmail adres, and within 30 secs i received the mail. Same with outlook calender, it synced immediately.
With my HD2 (rom version 1.43.404.1 NLD) my mails don't arrive instantly! sometimes it takes over two houres before i receive something. Same with calender and contacts. I tried a hard reset of my device. First thing afterwards was settingup google exchange, and it worked again. Then i added a second mail account, set this account to auto receive every two houres and the problem with the exchange account comes back! the strange thing is when i watch my active sync status on my phone, it says connected, and when i send a mail from my pc, a couple of seconds later i see activesync syncing, like its receiving the mail, but it doesn't show in my mailbox, no poppup, nothing... only few houres later, suddenly i get the mail...
my exchange account is set to 'receive on arrival of items' should be push, also, comm manager says push activated....
sounds familiar to anybody?
I think this was a problem on gmails end yesterday, bearing in mind that gmail push is in beta. I had the same on my i8910, where previously gmail push was working perfectly.
glenner05 said:
Very happy with my new HD2. However i have a problem with my push gmail, or maybe it is an exchange problem in general, don't know. When i set up an exchange account with google server, i should be able to recieve push email, sync my calender and contacts and so on. On my previous phone (samsung omnia2) it worked like a charm. Somebody sends my an email on my gmail adres, and within 30 secs i received the mail. Same with outlook calender, it synced immediately.
With my HD2 (rom version 1.43.404.1 NLD) my mails don't arrive instantly! sometimes it takes over two houres before i receive something. Same with calender and contacts. I tried a hard reset of my device. First thing afterwards was settingup google exchange, and it worked again. Then i added a second mail account, set this account to auto receive every two houres and the problem with the exchange account comes back! the strange thing is when i watch my active sync status on my phone, it says connected, and when i send a mail from my pc, a couple of seconds later i see activesync syncing, like its receiving the mail, but it doesn't show in my mailbox, no poppup, nothing... only few houres later, suddenly i get the mail...
my exchange account is set to 'receive on arrival of items' should be push, also, comm manager says push activated....
sounds familiar to anybody?
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I will get mine one day this week hopefully and will try as soon as. Hope it does work, pointless if not!
Use ise it since Friday and never withnissed something like this....
Everything is in 15sec on my deviece.
xmoo said:
Use ise it since Friday and never withnissed something like this....
Everything is in 15sec on my deviece.
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and do you have a second, normal email account? It's from the moment i created the second account i ran into trouble...
tried reverse order? email first then exchange?
maybe after a hard-reset
I haven't got a HD2 but on my TP if I go out of coverage area for a time and then come back in, my activesync doesn't always reconnect. Saying that I have noticed it a lot less since banging a 6.5 rom on there. I have to add I am not using google sync, I am using fast hosts. I am going to migrate to google sync after this month to save some pennies so I hope it works good by then.
I ONLY have google exchange sync, it synched my calendar and contacts in seconds, and the e-mail FOLDERs, but not a single message. i left it 8 hours... (i've checked the messages to only do 1 week, 3 days, whatever)
i've tried soft reseting, two hard resets, ONLY e-mail, no e-mail, toggling e-mail. it will not retrieve any messages. in the end im using IMAP but its very frustrating/!
anyone got any other suggestions?
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oh and to add insult to injury my iphone 3GS is sitting here merrily binging away everytime i get en e-mail!
If you are doing a send/receive for a folder this will not work you have to select the folders to sync by putting a tickbox in each one and then let it do its stuff.
Before I did this on mine all I saw was folders and no content (apart from the inbox)
Hope this helps.
but i just want my inbox to sync? which it does not.. and there is no checkbox next to that one, its in bold, which i assume means that one has to sync by default?
for me it does work right now. My solution was to delete my windows PC active sync connection. before, i synced with windows to get my contacts and calender, and then afterwards i set up my exchange connection. But from the moment i deleted the Windows PC connection, and working only with exchange everything works pefectly! Even created a second pop email account, refreshing every two houres, my push connection still works fine....
Ok, i figured out my issue, and im surprise dit isnt documented anywher eon google,i found it on one of their forums and a member there discovered it, not a google Mod.
If you have subfolder under your inbox, it wont work.
i.e. if you have any "/" in your google mail labels (which is how GMAIL sets itself up if you use outlookwith IMAP on it),then it wont sync
i had sub folder sin outlook, so in gmail they becme labels such as:
Inbox/Ebay
Inbox/personal
and the "/" trips up the exchange sync. which seems very strange considering that the phone correctly recognises them as labels.
docchris1980 said:
Ok, i figured out my issue, and im surprise dit isnt documented anywher eon google,i found it on one of their forums and a member there discovered it, not a google Mod.
If you have subfolder under your inbox, it wont work.
i.e. if you have any "/" in your google mail labels (which is how GMAIL sets itself up if you use outlookwith IMAP on it),then it wont sync
i had sub folder sin outlook, so in gmail they becme labels such as:
Inbox/Ebay
Inbox/personal
and the "/" trips up the exchange sync. which seems very strange considering that the phone correctly recognises them as labels.
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So it means that there is no way it will sync the emails under these labels?
I tried re-entering my details yesterday, after having it on hourly retrieval for a few days. Now sync appears to be working fine, from others reporting similar it looks like Google was doing some work on it for a few days that was breaking new sync setups.
now it works fine

Gmail activesync slow

Can anyone help me out. I seem to be getting my messages around 7 to 10 minutes from the time it hits my desktop. I have set the settings to As items arrive on both peak and off peak and set that MON through to Sun.
Secondly as soon as I send an email from the phone it sends a copy to my inbox and cant seem to turn that off.
In Google Mail, I have Imap enabled but POP3 turned off.
Thanks for the help guys.
Just trying to prop this to top to see if anyone has a tip or two :-(
Got the same problem. Found a solution? Anyone else?
For the copy to inbox issue, check that you choose "Reply" and not "Reply all"
I've come to the conclusion that ActiveSync to Google services is not worth the hassle.
Four main reasons mobile GMail is a "fail" for me:
1/ Receiving ActiveSync messages is no-where NEAR real-time.
Example, I sent my GMail account a message 45mins ago. I can see it in my GMail inbox, but even though my activesync status shows as "connected" it's yet to appear on my phone.
Edit: OK, I just qualified my testing - msgs sent to GMail are near-instant. Messages sent to my pop3 account, which gmail checks, take considerable time to come through.
2/ Syncing existing Calendar appointments SPAMS all meeting attendees!
Example, I synced my phone calendar to gmail via ActiveSync, and gmail decided that it should send out a NEW meeting invitation to all recipients of every past & future appointment I'd ever *accepted*.
Old appointments like the 2009 Company Christmas Party were re-sent to everyone in the company from my GMail account!
I was not a popular boy.
3/ Sync'd Contact photos are very poor quality. Try it!
The online photo is extremely bad quality compared to the original in your phone. This becomes even more of an issue if you wipe your phone and re-download them from google. You've now just lost your original HQ photo.
4/ With Gmail set as an activesync connection, you're unable to change your reply-to address. You're forced to send as your gmail.com account.
With regular POP/SMTP, you can "send-as" any address you want. Gmail is not my primary email address, and I don't want people replying to it.
So for me, I've reverted to POP/SMTP for emails (send/receive every 10mins), and the MS My Phone service for backing up contacts, calendar, etc.
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1/ Receiving ActiveSync messages is no-where NEAR real-time.
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In all fairness, Gmail had some pretty serious outages the last couple of days. If the email has been even slower lately, that's probably why.
That said, I found the Gmail Activesync solution pretty unreliable as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=626461&highlight=telstra+email+sync&page=2
Dont know whether anything in this will help?? I'm not using Gmail .. sorry
I don't have a problem using Google Sync. It's pretty instantaneous (almost on par with Blackberry). Just make sure you've set Activesync to receive items as soon as they arrive on both peak and off peak times (or set whatever interval you're comfortable with).
Yes. My only gripe is with the crap contact photos that are resynced back to the phone. GRRR!!
Works fine for me most of the time, but apparently for the past 15h or so it keeps failing, wanting me to resync everything every 20mins saying the Exchange server had a problem and not giving me all elememts that should be there.
hmm.. got no problem in the last 24h..
someone response in the pict of me and my wifey, we both got the notification almost the same time.. (my wife's using Blackberry)
While trying to find a solution to my unrelated mail problem I came across this .... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584167
i don't think ActiveSync is as reliable (at least for gmail) on Windows Mobile as it is for iPhone. I have both set up to push all day and without fail the iPhone gets my mail first. sometimes it can take up to ten minutes for mail to arrive on my HD2. I even don't always get it when I push send/receive. This problem has continued for weeks, regardless of whether I use a stock or custom ROM
Another annoyance I'm having lately is that even though my phone is set to retrieve ALL mail I'm only getting mail from as far back as february. this is also happening on my iPhone and had been an issue for weeks now. Anyone know what might be the cause???
Maybe your mail from before Feb is not in yout "Inbox" anymore, but archived (visible in "All mail")?
Hello
I have the same problem. The service is quite slow. My friend has Iphone and is arrives in 5 seconds.
I also hate the low res contact pics that get sync'd, have not been able to figure out why yet.
thats weird, i just set up push gmail today, and i receive emails at the EXACT same time as my desktop google talk... that is, around 2-3 seconds after emailing myself from another account
I was just setting up the google sync on my phone but I was unable to "check mark" the calendar and contacts, is that because I didnt set this up on the computer? I keep seeing people say active sync so I guess I have to do this on the computer?
Sorry for bringing an old thread up, just playing with my HD2 and thought I would use the search box and see if anyone had some answers..
Thanks
Kyle
Phrak said:
2/ Syncing existing Calendar appointments SPAMS all meeting attendees!
Example, I synced my phone calendar to gmail via ActiveSync, and gmail decided that it should send out a NEW meeting invitation to all recipients of every past & future appointment I'd ever *accepted*.
Old appointments like the 2009 Company Christmas Party were re-sent to everyone in the company from my GMail account!
I was not a popular boy.
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How do you retract the invites emails from gmail??
oh dear, you too?
AFAIK, you can't recall or retract messages sent from GMail.
Fortunately I am an Exchange Admin for my company, and used the ExMerge tool to sweep everyone's mailboxes & calendars to *move* to PST any messages received during that finite time window starting with "Invitation: " (I think it was).
Unfortunately ExMerge can't sweep based on the sender.

HTC Mail vs. Gmail App

Ok... so I've recently migrated to Android after several years of WinMo Standard - Windows CE - 5.0 - 6.0 - 6.1 - 6.5.
So far I like Android and I love this phone... never had anything has fast or with such a great screen.
With that being said I'm having several issues that I wanted to run by the people here and see what ya'll thought.
Quick setup background - I have two email accounts I like to use - Gmail and Yahoo. I have all of my conacts in gmail organized the way I like it. Also, I recently gave up on using MS Outlook to manage my contacts and calendar and now use Gmail and Google Calendar to manage those two exclusively.
So here goes my impression/questions/issues - hoping someone can shed some light on it.
In the past with WinMo I could set up POutlook to sync with gmail/g-calendar/google contacts by configuring m.google.com as my activesync/exchange server. Everything seemed to work great. Now however I cannot decide if I should set up the accounts on the INC to sync via exchange or google.
So first question - when using HTC Mail and setting up my gmail account as an exchange server account is it "true" push?
If it is why would anyone want to use the gmail app?
Next - when I set my calendar to sync via exchange it randomly takes my entries and duplicates them on places the duplicate on the day before the original one. Any idea why? When I remove the active sync calendar and have it sync with my google account everything is correct... this is strange to me since its pulling the same data from the same place, my google calendar.
I'm sure I'll add more confusing and rambling thoughts after I continue to mess with this thing.
Thanks!
from my understanding the gmail is instant push and the htc mail app refreshes every 5 minutes (minimum). if this makes a difference to you then it should make your decision easier. hope this helps
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Ok... so I've recently migrated to Android after several years of WinMo Standard - Windows CE - 5.0 - 6.0 - 6.1 - 6.5.
So far I like Android and I love this phone... never had anything has fast or with such a great screen.
With that being said I'm having several issues that I wanted to run by the people here and see what ya'll thought.
Quick setup background - I have two email accounts I like to use - Gmail and Yahoo. I have all of my conacts in gmail organized the way I like it. Also, I recently gave up on using MS Outlook to manage my contacts and calendar and now use Gmail and Google Calendar to manage those two exclusively.
So here goes my impression/questions/issues - hoping someone can shed some light on it.
In the past with WinMo I could set up POutlook to sync with gmail/g-calendar/google contacts by configuring m.google.com as my activesync/exchange server. Everything seemed to work great. Now however I cannot decide if I should set up the accounts on the INC to sync via exchange or google.
So first question - when using HTC Mail and setting up my gmail account as an exchange server account is it "true" push?
If it is why would anyone want to use the gmail app?
Next - when I set my calendar to sync via exchange it randomly takes my entries and duplicates them on places the duplicate on the day before the original one. Any idea why? When I remove the active sync calendar and have it sync with my google account everything is correct... this is strange to me since its pulling the same data from the same place, my google calendar.
I'm sure I'll add more confusing and rambling thoughts after I continue to mess with this thing.
Thanks!
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i had issues with gmail not pushing properly when set up as an exchange account via HTC mail. other than the push issue, i consider the HTC app superior in every way.
I just set the HTC mail to manual, turn off the notifications to HTC mail. I set gmail it notification on, then every time gmail pushes in the mail I check it with the HTC mail. After I check it the notification goes away.
This way you can still use HTC mail without it waisting battery power every 5 minutes pull checking.
I just set the HTC mail to manual, turn off the notifications to HTC mail. I let gmail push it notification still on, then check it with the HTC mail. After I check it the notification goes away.
HolyGrail said:
I just set the HTC mail to manual, turn off the notifications to HTC mail. I set gmail it notification on, then every time gmail pushes in the mail I check it with the HTC mail. After I check it the notification goes away.
This way you can still use HTC mail without it waisting battery power every 5 minutes pull checking.
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Great idea! I'll have to remember this when my EVO arrives next week.
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I just set the HTC mail to manual, turn off the notifications to HTC mail. I let gmail push it notification still on, then check it with the HTC mail. After I check it the notification goes away.
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might do this. thanks for the idea
If you set up your gmail account as an exchange account using m.google.com you can get push by changing your check frequency to "as arrive".
The issue I'm having is that the HTC Mail application wont open any attachments from my gmail account set up through exchange. I just get a message "The file cannot be opened because it is corrupted."
If I open with the gmail application it works fine
As a regular Gmail user, I find the Android Gmail app is superior to the HTC mail app. It gives me the same features I have when using a computer... like marking a star on a conversation, viewing different labels, and since I have multiple email addresses that my Gmail account polls, the Gmail app lets me see which of my email addresses was the recipient. It's right there in the label on the email list, without having to open each mail and look at the address information.
If you don't use Gmail, or have multiple email addresses that AREN'T automatically polled by your Gmail account, I'd agree that HTC Mail is nice. But for me it takes away too many of the nice Gmail features that I use. My $.02
jdoo said:
If you set up your gmail account as an exchange account using m.google.com you can get push by changing your check frequency to "as arrive".
The issue I'm having is that the HTC Mail application wont open any attachments from my gmail account set up through exchange. I just get a message "The file cannot be opened because it is corrupted."
If I open with the gmail application it works fine
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This doesn't push. It pulls. If you look closely you will see a refresh icon flash in your notification bar every 5 seconds. Extreme battery usage.
As far as opening up your attachments, set it for Imap. Its the only way I got it to work for attachments.
Solomente said:
As a regular Gmail user, I find the Android Gmail app is superior to the HTC mail app. It gives me the same features I have when using a computer... like marking a star on a conversation, viewing different labels, and since I have multiple email addresses that my Gmail account polls, the Gmail app lets me see which of my email addresses was the recipient. It's right there in the label on the email list, without having to open each mail and look at the address information.
If you don't use Gmail, or have multiple email addresses that AREN'T automatically polled by your Gmail account, I'd agree that HTC Mail is nice. But for me it takes away too many of the nice Gmail features that I use. My $.02
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Expect copy and paste from it, which I use a lot.
i like gmail app, because there is a delete button haha
htc one need to hit menu and hit delete.
Gmail...
I found using the Gmail app and the HTC Mail separately, I was killing my battery faster.
What I ended up doing, was having GMail PULL my pop mail, and then I'd just pull it all through the gmail app. Helped my battery life a great deal.
Pro's - Everything in one place, Easy batch delete
Con's - I have to TELL it to load the entire message (Show Picture). In HTC I didn't have to do that.
Other than that, I'm happy to have everything centralized.

Will HD2 US do aol / yahoo push mail? I've looked at the manual and no mention?

I've looked all over..and can't find a section that mentions push mail from yahoo, aol, etc.
I'm coming from the iPhone so the push mail works on the Yahoo side and I believe on the aol side.
I know that MS exchange has push feature to the phone but what about the other standards? gmail?
I noticed on Cookies HT there is a push mail icon but that did not work (i take it that's for ms direct push?)
Lastly...is there a setting or app that allows ALL mail to send / receive vs just doing one account at a time (annoying)?
Thank you!
the microsoft direct push functionality (supported on ALL windows mobile devices in at least the past 3-4 years) works with ANY microsoft exchange server.
this means it will work for gmail (i am using it myself!) because google has the exchange server on their end. google itself provides a generic windows mobile tutorial on how to set it up and you can find a video guide on youtube specifically on how to set it up on a stock HD2 (technique should work on custom ROMs too). my only additional advice is to back up your contacts (either to microsoft myphone or using pimbackup) before proceeding because the google sync can also upload your contacts to google, and you don't want your contacts to get nuked in case something goes wrong during the initial sync. another potential confusion you might face is that you will see the labels set up on gmail as folders on your device's client. by default, syncing of folders is disabled, but you can go into "manage folders" under one of the menus when viewing your inbox on the device to pick the folders that you want to sync in addition to the inbox. finally, the first sync may take several minutes (even an hour) depending on the duration you have set up to sync (i use a setting for last one month worth of emails) and on your connection speed (try to use wifi for the first sync).
i don't know about yahoo or aol but if they support the microsoft exchange server on their side, then push email should theoretically work in these cases also.
all in all, i rather like the functionality because it is highly configurable. you can even set up "schedules" such that it works in push mode on, say, weekdays from noon to midnight and switch to, say, 4 hour poll mode while you are sleeping.
then again, i haven't experienced push email on any other device such as the black berry or iphone so my view point is rather limited.
Simply put yes. I have yahoo pop3 servive and get my yahoo mail just fine on the HD2
dubie76 said:
Simply put yes. I have yahoo pop3 servive and get my yahoo mail just fine on the HD2
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pop3 in "poll mode" is different from push email, which is what the OP was asking about.
however, for most practical purposes, pop3/imap in quick poll mode (like once every 5 minutes) is really not that bad, but it might adversely affect battery life.
i suppose poll mode is fine for most of us but some individuals/businessmen might rely on quick email delivery straight to their phone so its more logical to consider poll vs push as two separate technologies in discussions!
Do the folders selected to be sync with inbox will sync automatically?
ASCIIker said:
another potential confusion you might face is that you will see the labels set up on gmail as folders on your device's client. by default, syncing of folders is disabled, but you can go into "manage folders" under one of the menus when viewing your inbox on the device to pick the folders that you want to sync in addition to the inbox.
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Hi,
I was searching for this and thank you for letting me know how to do it! I didn't know there is a "manage folders" option until I scroll down (Din knew I can scroll down, lol)
By the way, as mentioned above, do the folders selected sync automatically? Will they appear on the mail tab?
Thank you.
guys i have been searching for a way to get push email with yahoo on my hd2 but till now i got nowhere!i get into activesync but iam suck on where i have to write "domain" and "server" details!any help appreciated!
fuorigioco1981 said:
guys i have been searching for a way to get push email with yahoo on my hd2 but till now i got nowhere!i get into activesync but iam suck on where i have to write "domain" and "server" details!any help appreciated!
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you can create an exchange account using your gmail login,if you have it,otherwise you can create a new gmail account and use it for send/receive your mail in push:in gmail web page you must add your yahoo account for check and than configure the exchange as i explane!
pop3 is NOT push. There is a delay. Depends on when you have it checking.
As far as i know, the default windows mobile does NOT support push email for yahoo. If you want push email, use seven like i did. Worked fine on my hd2.
http://community.seven.com/main.php
It will allow push email from yahoo and many others. It is NOT an email app where you read them in seven, but a tool to push it to your phones normal email program. (what you would be using now)
I have been using it for a long time and had no problem.

Push E-Mail?

Could someone please explain how push e-mail functions on the HD2, WinMo 6.5?
How is it set up?
Will it work with any mail service (for example Gmail Imap)?
How does it differ from having the mail program check for mail every half hour or so?
Email that is delivered directly to the phone, automatically, as they arrive in the users inbox.
There's a thread at the top of this forum section that details how to set it up with Gmail
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There's a thread at the top of this forum section that details how to set it up with Gmail
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Thanks. I don't recall seeing that thread, but I'll look for it.
Does setting it reduce battery life a lot?
Is it as if the device is frequently going online to check for e-mail?
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Do you mean the thread "Sync with Google"?
It involves installing a Google Sync app to the phone.
I'm not sure if I would want to do that. Probably a great reduction in battery life (as well as taking up memory), for the app to constantly check for new Google items to sync the phone with. (I wish I could figure out how to kill ActiveSync, so that it would only come on when I use it. I end it in TaskManager, and it starts right up again! Still worse if there were two such sync apps, constantly checking and syncing.
As far as it being Push, is it really? Would the Gmail server really know, every time one gets an e-mail, to send it to your phone?
Or, is it that Google Sync app, always running in the background, frequently checking online, to see whether a new piece of mail has comin in?
With Google sync you don't actually install an app. You basically set up your gmail account to act as an exchange server.
I have this set up on my phone now and get my emails almost as fast as if I has a BB..
Using this saves battery life compared to telling your phone to check since it doesn't actually have to keep checking on a schedule, it gets notified if you get an email and it is 'pushed' to the phone.
Vectre said:
With Google sync you don't actually install an app. You basically set up your gmail account to act as an exchange server.
I have this set up on my phone now and get my emails almost as fast as if I has a BB..
Using this saves battery life compared to telling your phone to check since it doesn't actually have to keep checking on a schedule, it gets notified if you get an email and it is 'pushed' to the phone.
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Hey Vectre, how do you justify Push E-Mail enabled saves more energy when it requires constant data connection VS connecting every hour, 4 hours, etc? In my experience, my battery drained faster with push on.
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Hey Vectre, how do you justify Push E-Mail enabled saves more energy when it requires constant data connection VS connecting every hour, 4 hours, etc? In my experience, my battery drained faster with push on.
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Personal experience actually. Maybe I just had the schedule check for email too liberally but it does seem to last longer. Best guess is that while the data connection is on it is not actually transmitting or receiving anything.
I will grant you it could simply be subjective, but it is my experience.
Vectre said:
With Google sync you don't actually install an app. You basically set up your gmail account to act as an exchange server.
I have this set up on my phone now and get my emails almost as fast as if I has a BB..
Using this saves battery life compared to telling your phone to check since it doesn't actually have to keep checking on a schedule, it gets notified if you get an email and it is 'pushed' to the phone.
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What if one has more than one GMail account? Can one set up two?
I guess too, for this to work one has to have ActiveSync set to automatic. In order not to have AS run constantly, many folks set up a fake Exchange server, just to be able to set the schedule to Manual. If it is set to manual, however, I don't see how the e-mail could "Push".
So, in setting up "Push" for a Gmail account, does one not use the Microsoft Push E-maikl setting at all? Or is that a different way to do it, including for Gmail?
Doesn't that Google Sync also sync the Google online Calendar with the phone's calendar, etc.?
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What if one has more than one GMail account? Can one set up two?
I guess too, for this to work one has to have ActiveSync set to automatic. In order not to have AS run constantly, many folks set up a fake Exchange server, just to be able to set the schedule to Manual. If it is set to manual, however, I don't see how the e-mail could "Push".
So, in setting up "Push" for a Gmail account, does one not use the Microsoft Push E-maikl setting at all? Or is that a different way to do it, including for Gmail?
Doesn't that Google Sync also sync the Google online Calendar with the phone's calendar, etc.?
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Actually, at this time, my understanding is while you can have multiple email accounts you can only have 1 set up through exchange. I could be wrong, I haven't done in depth research.
Current reviews and reports say that Windows Phone 7 is supposed to support multiple exchange servers.. But we haven't actually seen it yet.
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I've never done Push, thinking of trying it.
I'll tell you how I have my e-mail currrently set up on the HD2, which is the same way as I have set it up on other phones for years.
T-Mobile has a service where you set up your e-mail addresses with them (at mytmobile), and you can set it for them to send a text message every time you receive an e-mail. That message includes the sender, the subject line, date and time, I forget if any of the message. I think those alerts are free, do not take from one's store of text messages. I have that set.
Then--I do not have any automatic retrieving set up in e-mail. It is all manual.
So, I do get a message "pushed" to me, on receipt of all e-mails, from all accounts.
If I see that I received an e-mail that I want to read now on the phone, then I go to either the phone's mail app, or the gmail java applet (I use the latter more now), to read that e-mail.
I don't use any server in ActiveSync, yet I have a fake one set up, to enable me to set AS totally to manual. (You can find threads about that here). That way AS does not run all the time, is not constantly trying to sync, etc.
I'm not sure what advantage "push" would have over that, and probably use much more battery. (And yes, that would be a limitation with Gmail, in only being able to do one account. I regularly check two Gmail accounts. If I was to do Push, I would turn off the text alerts, but then I would not find out what e-mails I received on the 2nd gmail account.)
I was curious about Push (and then disabling the e-mail alerts), but I will probably stick with what I have.
me said:
I've never done Push, thinking of trying it.
I'll tell you how I have my e-mail currrently set up on the HD2, which is the same way as I have set it up on other phones for years.
T-Mobile has a service where you set up your e-mail addresses with them (at mytmobile), and you can set it for them to send a text message every time you receive an e-mail. That message includes the sender, the subject line, date and time, I forget if any of the message. I think those alerts are free, do not take from one's store of text messages. I have that set.
Then--I do not have any automatic retrieving set up in e-mail. It is all manual.
So, I do get a message "pushed" to me, on receipt of all e-mails, from all accounts.
If I see that I received an e-mail that I want to read now on the phone, then I go to either the phone's mail app, or the gmail java applet (I use the latter more now), to read that e-mail.
I don't use any server in ActiveSync, yet I have a fake one set up, to enable me to set AS totally to manual. (You can find threads about that here). That way AS does not run all the time, is not constantly trying to sync, etc.
I'm not sure what advantage "push" would have over that, and probably use much more battery. (And yes, that would be a limitation with Gmail, in only being able to do one account. I regularly check two Gmail accounts. If I was to do Push, I would turn off the text alerts, but then I would not find out what e-mails I received on the 2nd gmail account.)
I was curious about Push (and then disabling the e-mail alerts), but I will probably stick with what I have.
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I used this on my previous winmo phone. When I tried to set it up for [email protected] it didn't seem to still be an option. That is why I set up google sync. At this time I am mostly using my gmail account so it works out just fine..
Vectre said:
I used this on my previous winmo phone. When I tried to set it up for [email protected] it didn't seem to still be an option. That is why I set up google sync. At this time I am mostly using my gmail account so it works out just fine..
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You mean the mail alerts from T-Mobile?
That is not something you set up on the phone, and has nothing to do with WinMo.
In fact, I had nothing to do, to set it up on my HD2. I had it set up already, worked on my previous (non winmo) phone, and it worked on my HD2, without any re-setting up.
You set it up at the T-Mobile web site. Log on to "My T-Mobile", with your user name and password, go to "configure e-mail". You can set up any e-mail accounts you have there--POP, IMAP, etc (including Gmail and others), and you can set it to send you a text alert for every e-mail received on any of the e-mail accounts you configure there.
It is completely phone-independent. Once set up, it will send those alerts to any phone you have, unless you turn it off. (If having a problem with it, call T-Mo CS.)

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