Wizard Died? (Startup issue!) Please Help! - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hello dear XDA-dev members;
I had a problem this morning with my Wizard. I have a G3 device which i had downgraded to Button ROM for unlocking etc. It was working really fine until this morning. Last night i have turned off the phone radio (wireless and bluetooth was not enabled)and the battery was charged almost at %60.
This morning i woke up, i saw that he was entered in USB recovery mode itself. (the screen with red, green, blue, with my IPL 1.0 / SPL 1.0) , i was terrified because nobody touched my phone. Then i have pushed over power button, it shut-down. I've just waited a few minutes then i've just pushed again over power button, it started with my windows mobile 5 splash screen and showing my ipl/spl. the screen is really bright at this moment but fades out, when he started to fade out, he just shut-down itself.
I've read and searched over the forum, and though that it was my battery which was dead. I've plugged it with wall charger and waited almost one hour, and the charger led was red. I've tried to turn on, he just came on and go over my Today screen! and the charger led turned to green. Almost 45 seconds later the phone turned off itself. I've tried to re-start but it's same. I'm getting windows splash screen, and the screen brightness starts to fade out and the phones shuts down.
I've tested my battery with a volt-meter, i'm getting 4.86 volts. i have also checked power pins inside the phone, i'm also getting power there (4.6 volts) when it's connected with wall-charger, so i think that it's fine.
I have tried to hard reset, pushing communication + voice command button + soft reset button, i had the black screen, he said that it was ok, but same here. I was running with Button rom as i said before. (1.05)
Please help.

if you still can get into bootloader, it should be fine

It was entered into bootloader mode itself. When i'm trying to start it, the splash screen comes on, it shows WM5 and my IPL/SPL and 20 seconds after, it shut down. I really need help because it's my only phone that i own.

etron45 said:
It was entered into bootloader mode itself. When i'm trying to start it, the splash screen comes on, it shows WM5 and my IPL/SPL and 20 seconds after, it shut down. I really need help because it's my only phone that i own.
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Have you had your phone more than a year? It may be the battery.
Replacement batteries cost only $5 on ebay or Amazon. Just get a battery so you can be sure that isn't the problem. In any event, you will probably need a new battery so you may as well try this.

joihan777 said:
Have you had your phone more than a year? It may be the battery.
Replacement batteries cost only $5 on ebay or Amazon. Just get a battery so you can be sure that isn't the problem. In any event, you will probably need a new battery so you may as well try this.
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I've gone to buy a new battery, but it's the same thing. It just shuts-down irregullary at splash screen, or today screen.

Some faults in memory result in the device needing to soft reset in an attempt to reclaim memory. Perhaps you could try flashing to another rom. I dont own a g3 so I cant really advise you any further.

Mine not exactly like you but automatic bootloader or stuck at IPL screen. It was out of nowhere but thought a bad flash. When trying the hard reset, it would come as "failed".
Nearly threw phone thinking too old and dead but this came to rescue. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963. If not tried, give it a shot.
WARNING: Use card reader to save your MINISD data's and if successful, first format card before reinserting.

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I-MATE JAMIN Dead

Hi, my device was low on battery and it went blank. Then I recharged it. After the recharge, the power button press started to soft reset the device and it got stuck at the blue windows mobile screen. After a few hard resets the device went totally blank. I took the battery out waited for a couple of hours, then put it on but no change in the situation. Now when I try to hard reset (camera+conn+soft reset) nothing happens. When I put connect it to the charger, nothing happens as well.
please help I am going mad in here.
camelking said:
Hi, my device was low on battery and it went blank. Then I recharged it. After the recharge, the power button press started to soft reset the device and it got stuck at the blue windows mobile screen. After a few hard resets the device went totally blank. I took the battery out waited for a couple of hours, then put it on but no change in the situation. Now when I try to hard reset (camera+conn+soft reset) nothing happens. When I put connect it to the charger, nothing happens as well.
please help I am going mad in here.
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use original battery and original charger. be patient, just let it connected long time. (this in case your battery was fully discharged and you did not no use your device for long time)
i am read that it stucks with blue windows well it is window mobile so you not have really blue window, but i think you mean the splash screen.
maybe you have downgraded your device somehow? If so, upgrade it again and it will not stuck any more at the "blue window"
many thanks. my i-mate is plugged in for power now.. there are no lights showing up as well.. i am being patient.. lets see how it goes.
It sounds to me that you have a problem with the battery connectors or maybe the battery it self.
I once let my Jamin run down (when I accidentally left MP3's playing over night) and it refused to boot (stuck on the splash screen just like yours).
Fortunately for me, once I connected the power supply, the problem went away.
If you don't see the orange "charging" light check all connections, make sure the battery is installed properly and the contact surfaces on it are clean, make sure the power supply is plugged in tightly and the wall socket has power.
If nothing helps you'll probably need a new battery.
Many Thanks.. I will order a new battery and see if it works. Very unlucky situation to be left Jaminless on the beach during my summer holiday..

Athena dead or dying........any miracle workers out there?

Background:
I have had MANY PPC's (so many I can't even count them) and I've loaded many different cooked ROMS and such on most of them so I'm not a complete noob on these things (don't claim to be an expert either).
However, my most recent acquisition is an HTC Advantage bought at CompUSA. I've read most of these came with a test ROM and mine was no different except for the fact that when I attempted to update the ROM to the "official" one provided to me by HTC it would not work. I always got the error "Connection lost" about half way through the process. I tried it numerous times and it never worked. On some occasions it would get stuck on the bootloader screen but I was able to get it back to working status (still on the test ROM).
I decided to try installing step 1 of Ollipro's SPL to see if that would help loading the HTC ROM. Turns out that wouldn't work either. It would get stuck at step 1 where it would ask if "PPC gone idle and didn't work or to wait 30 seconds". Tried it many times and would try to get it to keep going but the grey box on the bottom left would say the "parameters were incorrect" and would give me the option to quit, which I would. No problem, at least my 7501 was still working.
After that I tried the official HTC ROM again and I got the same "connection lost" error I had previously, except this time I didn't get anything on my PPC screen, just a black screen, not even the battery charging light behind the joystick lights up anymore. Soft reset...........nothing. Bootloader reset....................nothing. Hard reset.......................nothing. No lights, nada. The only flicker I get is if I try a reset wheen the power cord is connected. A red light flickers behind the joystick whenever I click the reset button. Any ideas or any help?
Sounds to me like the battery is just dead. I bought one at CompUSA (had the test ROM also) and I got the red ring around the joystick too when I tried to turn it on in the store. I left it plugged in awhile and it finally booted up okay. I then replaced the test ROM with the one and only available for the X7501 on HTC USA's web site. Good luck and I hope you get it working!
I think it could be battery related as well but it had a full charge when this happened. For some reason the unit has lost communication with the battery. I'm at a loss.
I got the same problem like you man !!! but i bad luck and so stupid man , i did with HTC X7501 then it dead after that i bought the X7500 then did it again , holy "... " it dead again....man ...So how your phone now bro ????
I left out the battery a half day and tried it again but still dead. Then I left it charging overnight and tried it again but still dead.
I can't believe this. I've never had a bricked device that can't be revived but after so many have seen this post and still no solutions I'm guessing it's no hope.
I met the same situation when I started to unlock Athena ( TMobile Ameo) within not fully charged battery ( less then 70%).
Solution ( try to make BL mode) with connected wallsocket charger ( not connected to PC USB slot) or find 100% charged battery. It helped me two times.
After many tries it changed to BL mode .
Now I didn't start unlock/change ROM without 100% charged battery.
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
Lobstrick said:
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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"heating battery" (i.e. discharging when inserted, you mean?), no charge led = dead bootloader indeed.
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
Hearing these stories makes me nervous. I'm on the stock ROM (mine came from CompUSA with the latest ROM and I don't have an urge to try the cooked ROM yet). I've been using my Athena daily for 4 months, it charges correctly from several different chargers I have (car, computer USB, stock wall charger, aftermarket wall charger).
However, one day 2 weeks ago I went to make a call in the middle of the day and my Athena was dead. D-e-a-d. Usually I can make it back home at night and still have 90-100% on the battery meter, so with no use in the middle of the day and a dead battery, this was weird. It wouldn't turn on, no soft boot, took the battery out and put it back in, and always got nothing.
I bring this up here because when I plugged it in, I encountered similar problems that others here are describing. It wouldn't turn on, and it didn't give me the orange charging light behind the joystick. I ended up leaving it plugged in for a while and finally I got a red ring, not the usual orange. I've only seen red when the battery was almost dead and the unit was on. Then after some more time the ring turned orange and at this point it would turn on again. I still have no idea why my battery died so fast and hard.
So, is there a problem with the battery charging system that is starting to crop up in units that have been used a while???
miha_conan said:
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
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Hi i am no expert but i had simaler problem no display or no lights round ring no responce to any commands (ie hard reset and bootloader ) only red light flickred on reset button all i did was removed battery while pressing reset button and placed new battery and left it on wall charger for couple of hours and before doing hard reset i pressed reset button 2 to 3 times and green light round the battery came up so i tryed bootloader and it worked and insted of flashing it with pc i just loaded the img in sd card and flashed it while whole thing was on charge (i had tmob test rom before ) which i think is best way to do no hassle of losing connection or failing in half way and it works like a charm
hope this helps
and ya if you have a spare battery it dose help
New battery?
I'm a wizard user (and lots of former PDAs) looking to buy and Athena, maybe.
Has anyone tried a new, right out of the envelope, battery? these issues sound like worn out Li-Ion batteries to me. I've had them completely conk (won't take a charge at all) if I let them go completely down, and I've had them wear out and stop taking a full charge (down to maxing out at about %20, but sometimes showing %100 depending on ROM status) when I kept charging them while they're already charged.
Li-Ion batts don't sit for long periods too well, either, so if they're sitting on the shelf at the store/warehouse, they may be suffering even more than one that has been used since earlier in its childhood.
Perhaps the answer is a switched charger that stops charging when the battery (not the ROM/unit reading) gets to %100. ???
I didn't see anything like this posted. I'm terribly curious to see if anyone can resolve it.
nother AMEO dead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1859021#post1859021
Red ring comes for a sec only try to RESET the device with Charger connected
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same here,
i am afraid i got a dead athena too, did you guys found any solution?? i tried switching batteries. this is my first experience with a windows mobile device not powering on, in inrepairable condition.
found another member with similar problems- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1639311&postcount=24
No genius,s on here,just insults
i have read every page on the advantage x7500,being such an old phone you would thin the genius,s on here could sort it out in seconds,but all they do is insult you.i tried to update from windows 6 on radio 1.20 to michys radio 6.5
it got to 94 percent then crashed, now when i boot up i just get a black and white screen,which then turns white,if it try to reinstall advantage 6.0 the phone reets after 2 or 3 percent..will anyboby help by giving simple term advice to unbrick it? NO.will they provide links to there advice no.THEY JUST INSULT YOU AND SAY ITS IN ONE OF THE THREADS.well im a computer tech and if anybody wants there pc or laptop fixing.guess what i will return the favour with computer speak,THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND

Charmer wont turn on

this is my firends phone - tmobile cmpact 2 - its never been cooked, standard wm5 rom and no upgrades or downloads. it suddenyl today entered bootload screen - we took out the battery restarted, then it loads to the tmobile splash screen the cuts off, now it wont even turn on
tried charging it, and the charge light doesnt ocm eon, any ideas??
Thanks
anyone?..........................................
You have to enter bootloader mode (look up the wiki for how to) and then run the official rom upgrade for charmer.
my charmer is also dead
right in the middle of typing in an adress at iGO on my Charmer with WM5 it started rebooting and turned black after the T-Mobile bootscreen. And I could only turn it on by removing the battery, waiting for some minutes and then turning on again, just to see the same thing happening - black after T-Mobile screen.
Now I cannot turn it on at all, cannot reset (neither hard nor soft), cannot get into bootloader nor can I charge it (at least no LED is indicating anything).
Does anybody have an idea? vlodeck?
At the moment I am not at home, so I cann't try the original power supply (so far I used the one in the car).
Thanks in advance!
There are two possible outcomes Jared.
Either your power supply in the car is not enough to lift up Charmer.
Or your battery went totally dead, in which case you would have to buy a new battery.
Good luck.
Thanks for the fast support!
the strange thing is, that it all started with battery at about 80%...
I will check on sunday with the original power supply and a battery from another device. Then I will let you know the outcome.
I can lend you my battery, Jared!
...to see if it is really the battery.
Otherwise I can only recommend the HTC Kaiser ;-)
problem solved for now
thanks frikibaby for the offer...
but vlodeck was right. At home I pluged in the charger and it started charging and I can also turn it on again. So for some reason my car charger does not charge the charmer anymore although the indicator and the battery bar says so ...???
Thanks for the support!!

Dead Vogue?

Hi everyone, sorry for my first post being a request for help,
I have a bell Vogue and during the weekend it locked up completely. With a reset it would just hang at the windows start screen. I performed a reset the phone to factory defaults and it started working fine again. But since i lost all my programs and settings i thought it would be a good time to upgrade to jd's 6.1 bell oem rom. So for the past two days its been running great and ive been very happy with it, until this morning. I felt it vibrating in my pocket as if i was receiving a text, when i pulled it out it was at the HTC logo screen and wouldnt get passed that. So i did a soft reset and it still just hung there. I then removed the memory card and now it wont even start. Just a black screen. And when i connect the usb cable i get a red led turning on. Any ideas anyone or does it look like im going to have to get a new celly?
Thanks
RED LED...
Bud, My experience says that SOLID RED LED means it can't see battery - I have POWER Plugged in anbd When I remove battery, LED Goes RED. So I think Battery is NFG. or contacts or Charging circuitry on main board...

Wizard not turning on. Doesn't boot.

Hello, a while back I posted a charging problem, which turned out to be the Mini-USB and Wall Charger was bent, and before that, the Mini USB outlet in the phone broke entirely. Well, another problem has arisen, as finally got a new charger yesterday, and worked perfectly. So, I shut it off, and left it to charge overnight. Now, the problem? All of a sudden, it refuses to boot. Held down the power button for 5 seconds, 20 seconds, and a full minute. Nothing. Any suggestions?
~Infinity
nothing AT ALL? or the screen turns on and gets stuck?
if nothing at all happens, try the battery jump start method
Well, after constant trying at starting the phone, I managed to have it boot after hours. What happened? During the boot,where it displays Windows Mobile 6, a line appeared, and the phone darkened, and then crashed.
What the hell.
I suggest a hard reset......
BASSMANBOB said:
I suggest a hard reset......
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....................And how can I hard reset when it doesn't boot, and whenever it does, crashes during it?
Anyone that's here help?
I'm currently having the same problem with mine. Hard resetting didn't work for me but you may as well try it.
If you can get it to start booting for just a few seconds you can hard reset it without loading the operating system. As soon as you get it to turn on, hold down the Wifi and Voice command buttons (one's on the left, one on the right). After holding those down, press the soft reset button (the little button on the right that you can press with your stylus) very quickly and release it. If you hold the soft reset button too long, it will perform a regular soft reset and you'll have to start over, so do that quickly.
A black screen should come up and tell you to press your send button to hard reset your phone.
I have similar problem,It's turn on to the logo that's always shown when boot and then it show the logo till it discharged.I tried hard reset,but it's still the same,i post 2 topic's in this website and no one help me
i too am facing the same problem, i was able to start it a few times but it crashed after a few seconds each time. i m gonna charge it all night and see if it starts. right now all i m getting is the red led. i really hope someone finds a solution soon.
With me it was my battery that caused the problem. Try it with the battery of another wizard. Succes, Rietje
ok so i charged it for more than 12 hours and my wizadr still didnt start.
I then got a NEW BATTERY and my wizard turned on within the very moment i pressed the power button.
So any one who is facing a similar problem should try a new battery.
Yea,this is a second time when i have this problem.I both A new battery,BUT IT STILL THE SAME!!!
First time when i both a new battery it was working fine,but now the battery won't help
Infinity M said:
Well, after constant trying at starting the phone, I managed to have it boot after hours. What happened? During the boot,where it displays Windows Mobile 6, a line appeared, and the phone darkened, and then crashed.
What the hell.
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faced a similar problem a while back. i replaced the battery and the phone was back to normal
someoneee said:
Yea,this is a second time when i have this problem.I both A new battery,BUT IT STILL THE SAME!!!
First time when i both a new battery it was working fine,but now the battery won't help
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try a battery frm a friends phone. u ll be sure that the battery u r using works fine. if ur phone still doesnt work then u need to have it checked.
i have same problem,,and i use T-Mobile MDA Vario
is it just battery problem or not?and if the PDA inactive it can still charge or not?
and i usually use blackberry charger to charge my PDA,is it ok?and is there any possibility my PDA can't work again?i hope not
pls help me..
Well for starters, charging your phone overnight will probably damage the battery over time. It's only the newer phones and batteries that are able to withstand extended overcharging times without serious damage to the battery. With older phones including the K-JAM/MDA Vario, the battery is meant to be charged till its full, and no more. If you overcharge it, you run the risk of damaging your battery and possibly the phone too.
If a new battery hasn't fixed your problem, the problem lies in your phone's mainboard.
Try charging your phone from a USB port on a computer to see if anything happens.

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