Hi everyone,
I have an unusual problem and I have searched almost the whole internet but I have not found an answer, so now I turn to you for any ideas. My problem is that over the past month, my amber/orange charge light remains constantly on, even when the phone is not charging. I have tried to soft reset, I have looked into HKLM->Drivers->BuiltIn->Battery key and have found no solution. The phone will still charge the battery OK. The other bluetooth light works OK, it still blinks when bluetooth is on. The right led remains orange. I have also tried to take out the battery and re-insert, but issue persists. I am using Faria's 3.3 and IPL/SPL is 2.26, radio is 2.61.11 for over 6 months on a WIZA100, but the issue has occurred a little over a month. Phone has always been well taken care of, no major drops and absolutely no water has ever touched it. Battery drain is normal, I get about 1 day and a half of normal usage, push email. I thought it was batterystatus, and I have removed it, but problem persists. When I soft reset, as soon as the IPL/SPL screen comes on, better yet, as soon as the HTC logo screen before the IPL/SPL screen comes on, the battery light remains constant orange. Any ideas? Please help!!
Sincerely,
Ricardo Cheing
Ricardo Cheing said:
Hi everyone,
I have an unusual problem and I have searched almost the whole internet but I have not found an answer, so now I turn to you for any ideas. My problem is that over the past month, my amber/orange charge light remains constantly on, even when the phone is not charging. I have tried to soft reset, I have looked into HKLM->Drivers->BuiltIn->Battery key and have found no solution. The phone will still charge the battery OK. The other bluetooth light works OK, it still blinks when bluetooth is on. The right led remains orange. I have also tried to take out the battery and re-insert, but issue persists. I am using Faria's 3.3 and IPL/SPL is 2.26, radio is 2.61.11 for over 6 months on a WIZA100, but the issue has occurred a little over a month. Phone has always been well taken care of, no major drops and absolutely no water has ever touched it. Battery drain is normal, I get about 1 day and a half of normal usage, push email. I thought it was batterystatus, and I have removed it, but problem persists. When I soft reset, as soon as the IPL/SPL screen comes on, better yet, as soon as the HTC logo screen before the IPL/SPL screen comes on, the battery light remains constant orange. Any ideas? Please help!!
Sincerely,
Ricardo Cheing
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It doesn't sound like you've tried hard resetting your device yet. Hard resetting the device will not revert back to manufacturers rom but will bring you back to the part where you configure the phone, before customization.
I imagine this is the only way you are going to get the orange light to go away, at least when its not charging... You can hard reset by holding the comm manager and voice button and pressing the reset button with the stylus.
BACK UP EVERYTHING BEFORE HARD RESETTING!!!! If you do not, you will lose everything on the device IE: music, videos, pictures, documents etc...
Try to use another Radio ROM version. The charging related issues are related to the Radio ROM.
Thanks guys, I will change the radio rom on my phone before hard resetting. I didn't want to try to hard reset because of the way I already have my phone configured. I have heard there is a way to create a cab with all customizations, but I'll have to figure out how to do this. I will report more later, because I'm at work right now and I don't have the usb cable.
Ricardo Cheing said:
Thanks guys, I will change the radio rom on my phone before hard resetting. I didn't want to try to hard reset because of the way I already have my phone configured. I have heard there is a way to create a cab with all customizations, but I'll have to figure out how to do this. I will report more later, because I'm at work right now and I don't have the usb cable.
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Hi, my phone last night (O2 XDA Mini S (Wizard)) started the exact same symptoms as you. At half 4 last night the screen came on and the phone claimed to be charging, while unplugged. I soft reset, but no change. by the morning the phone now claims to be fully charged. I've taken the battery out for a while, soft reset but nothing has worked so far, it now claims to be 100% charged constatnly, so i'm currently running the battery down to see what happens.
did you ever find a solution to this?
Hello, just wanted to update the thread, after 1-2 months of the battery charging light always on, no matter what, it fixed all by itself as I was preparing to hard reset my phone, no BS, I swear. I took the phone in my hand and was debating if I should hard reset or just flash another radio rom, and bam, I saw the light go back to normal, blinking green. That day it went back to always on, but then it would fix itself, but finally it's back to normal. So I went ahead and flashed the official T-MO 2.26/ 2.26.11 ROM which downgraded my Radio from 2.61 back to 2.26.11 and replaced my OS and then I flashed the official T-MO 3.08/ 2.69.11 ROM which upgraded my IPL/SPL and Radio. I then flashed Dr. Dot's BlackDiamond 2.0 WM6 and applied the 2.69.11 radio fix on XDA Mobile 6 Release 3. My phone has been wonderful since, thanks everyone.
hi leewebster try this and let me know if it works for you
thanks Ricardo Cheing ,
your input helped as this problem started when i had charged my phone with wife's dopod m700 charger
any way after playing around for some time i figured a workaround for it
i did the regitry hack for disabling the charging via the usb,
powered off the device by pressing the power button then took out the battery and put it back and then powered the device and the problem was sorted also the phone now will not charge when connected to the comp
now if i enable the charging via the usb then the problem returns
hope this is of help to somebody
ps: registry for disabling charging via usb
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/DRIVERS/BUILTIN/usbfndrv
enablineUsbcharging change the value to "0" (for disabling)
and
"1" (for re enabling)
Thanks for this tip, I have added a reference to this thread in the Wizard Wiki
just to update
today i re enabled the charging via the usb by making the registry hack , powered down the phone took out the battery and then restarted the device and was pleasently surprised to see that the device no longer had the solid amber light
device is working absolutely fine
Sweet hack
Hi, The post about disabling USB charging does indeed cure the charge light on all the time. Now the battery status works correctly. Only drawback was I use a cradle to charge with a USB plugged into a wall adapter. It won't work because of the USB being disabled and I mistakenly assumed since it was plugged into the wall it would although USB is USB whether powered from wall or computer. The factory AC adapter charges it fine though and the annoying light on all the time is gone. SWEET!! I will also re-enable it just to see if it remains gone like you did after a few days, and hopefully it will. If it doesn't I can live with it the way it is now
Thanks for the post!
Amber Charge Light Always ON!
wizard1 said:
Hi, The post about disabling USB charging does indeed cure the charge light on all the time. Now the battery status works correctly. Only drawback was I use a cradle to charge with a USB plugged into a wall adapter. It won't work because of the USB being disabled and I mistakenly assumed since it was plugged into the wall it would although USB is USB whether powered from wall or computer. The factory AC adapter charges it fine though and the annoying light on all the time is gone. SWEET!! I will also re-enable it just to see if it remains gone like you did after a few days, and hopefully it will. If it doesn't I can live with it the way it is now
Thanks for the post!
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Dear All,
Please help me if possible. I have been facing this same issue, however, when I go to battery icon and click on it, the next screen shows that the battery bar is running as it runs during charging, though the device is not connected neither with USB and/or wall charger, amber light is also stays on. I did hard reset, i did soft reset, I took the battery out and put it back in, all my efforts are in vain, no success sofar. I must tell everyone here that this is my third battery and the last two faced the same problem and then died and now they are useless, using those two batteries, i can't turn the device on, i cannot charge the device, they are garbage now, please help if possible!
Is There any solution to this....
hi I have been facing the same problem in my HTC touch Viva (India))...... but the problem is random .......... all of a sudden the light comes on and the phone claims to be charging without any source of charging ............... however in my case soft reset makes the light revert back to normal......but the problem re occurs after a few hours ....... I have tried every solution given on the internet (Hard Reset , registry hack etc) ....... but no avail.........Has anyone found a solution to this
My phone Specifications
WM 6.1
ROM 1.35.720.2 WWE
RADIO 03.37.90
Related
Hello knowledgeable guys out there, i had a major problem with my xdaII, the amber/green LED light just wont turn off, even when unplugged to the charger, im affraid that this can drain my battery, i tried hard-resseting and reflashing the rom, btw i use 2.06WWE rom and extended rom from Sin. Can anybody suggest a brighter idea?
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Try to take off batery for few min.
Amber LED
I tell you pal.. just reflash your device and reload the OS once again, this might fix the bug..
Good luck... :?
i tried removing the battery and letting it drain off, but still the problem persist, its like its always on the charging mode even when you are not charging it, and its burning power more quickly, the battery dramatically goes down quick. Its original ROM was 1.66, then i encountered that problem, then i thought reflashing it with a newer version of ROM, 2.06 could fix the problem, but it still cant be fixed, any other bright ideas? or any of you guys out there had encountered this problem before?
Better bring it to your nearest service center. Its a mechanical problem.
Goodluck
ok, il try to bring it back to globe telecom, im sure its still under warranty. Thank you guys for your acknowledgement
I have a Qtek 2020i and recently I also have this problem, the amber led is always on even if it's not in charging mode, and the battery discharge very quickly, only one night! (I use 2400 mAh battery!).
If I do a soft reset and don't turn off the PDA, the amber led is not turned on, so looks like normal, but if I turn off and turn on again, the ambed led will turn on in 4s approximately.
I have this problem since the day I unplugged my 2020i from USB cable on PC (usb mode with CARD EXPORT) without desactivate usb connection on PC side.
I've tried everything but still not working, flash rom, activesync & usb mode, unscrew and open the pda completely...
Can anyone help?
I have a 8125 and I was able to unlock it fine. After unlocking it I upgraded to the underground crossbow edition rom - which the 8125 rebooted and was running. I tried out a couple things and everything seemed to be running/working fine. It was getting late so I put it down and went to bed. This morning when I got up the phone was off so I went to turn it on and nothing happened. I figured it just ran out of battery power plugged in the charger and guess what no red light on. I have tried everything under the sun but I cant get it to charge or startup. Anyone have any ideas? It was working fine.
i know u said u've tried everything and i don't mean to sound like i'm takin the buscuit, but leave it on charge for n hour, then try bootloader. taking the battery out completely for a while could work.
i had so many problems with crossbow! think this was one of them.
Unplugged
Well so far I left the charger plugged into the phone with the battery in it for over an hour now - with no luck. The red charging light doesn't even come on. Did you have that problem? I also left the battery out and plugged in - still nothing. Tried taking the battery out and then putting it back in while plugged in - no go.
I have not tried the "bootloader" - but the phone will not turn on at all or respond in anyway. Its in a powered down state (or so it seems) - I dont think bootloader will work?? But I dont know anything about bootloader - is it on the ftp site and how do I use it?
Any chance the battery could have been completely discharged?..just a thought. I think i read that completely flat batteries wont charge up via usb. Disregard if thats a silly suggestion, just thought id offer my two cents.
try getting a new battery and see if it boots up...it can be your battery.and you are trying to charge with an AC adapter right?
Wall Charger
I am charing it via the wall charger (not usb) and I am going to try to get another battery. Just weird that I never had a battery problem until I install the wm6??!! Unless the damn thing drained my battery dry and somehow damaged the battery. I called Cingular and they are sending me another unit as its still in warranty. So we'll see when I get it - I will try the new battery. Strange. Very Strange - because everything was working last night.
Strange
Well after leaving the battery out all afternoon I took a go at the phone again, put in the battery then turned it on. It actually started booting up - showing the WM6 bootscreen. After about a minute it shut down like it was out of power. Strange. I know the phone is not bricked because if it was it wouldn't have just done what it did. Anyone have any suggestions how to fix it?
Could be a bad battery. You need to test out with some one else battery
HuddaDudda said:
Well after leaving the battery out all afternoon I took a go at the phone again, put in the battery then turned it on. It actually started booting up - showing the WM6 bootscreen. After about a minute it shut down like it was out of power. Strange. I know the phone is not bricked because if it was it wouldn't have just done what it did. Anyone have any suggestions how to fix it?
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HuddaDudda said:
Well after leaving the battery out all afternoon I took a go at the phone again, put in the battery then turned it on. It actually started booting up - showing the WM6 bootscreen. After about a minute it shut down like it was out of power. Strange. I know the phone is not bricked because if it was it wouldn't have just done what it did. Anyone have any suggestions how to fix it?
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u shud have plugged it in while it was booting...did u?
New Battery
Well I finally got the new battery I ordered today. When I put it into my phone it will boot into wm6 fine but will not sync with activesync 4.0 or charge via USB or plugged into the wall. I uninstalled activesync, rebooted my computer and installed Activesync 4.5 - but still no luck with the phone via usb syncing with my pc. Also when the phone in plugged into the wall via the wall charger it does not charge. I am beginning to think the port on the bottom somehow was disabled from the rom update, although I dont see any posts with people having that problem. I guess my next option is trying to reflash it to stock rom via a sd card since it wont connect via USB - however I can not find the information step by step how to do this. Can someone point me in the right direction?
Try going to the bootloader screen: Turn off your phone and then hold the camera button while you turn it on. When you are at the Rainbow screen (thats the bootloader) plug in your USB cord. You should see in the bottom left (above the left soft key) where it says USB. If it doesn't then I'd say your USB port is broken (I'm not aware of any ROM being able to disable that).
As for flashing from the SD card, I believe thats documented in the Wiki...
I have noticed that for the last week my Tytn won't always charge itself up either when its in its cradle or is being charged via the charging lead.
I have no idea what has brought this on. The solution I am using at the moment is to soft boot, which seems to solve the problem for a while. For the techies on here I am using the standard HTC Win5 Rom, straight out the box.
Has anyone come across this problem and, if yes, knows what the solution is please? It was only because my low battery alarm kicked in the other day that I realised there was a problem.
As I use the kit for work I cannot afford to have it not charge up.
Many thanks in advance for your help.
WB
Caveat - Yes, did search first on here and elsewhere before posting.
Could be hardware (at Device) / could be software. Without testing these things out it's impossible to say. I suppose a quick test of the physical contacts of the device would be to switch on and connect the charger and by gently moving the connection, see if the amber charging LED goes on off.
In the end I always think with this kind of problem a hard reset saves a lot of time testing this and that. If there is nothing you can pin down as an obvious change/installation you made before this started, then I'd do a hard reset.
Of course you are fully prepared for this with full backups taken at key installation stages?? - Hope so.
Mike
The only thing I've heard of is that using USB cables/cradles, car chargers and non-standard wall chargers (such as for motorola) are ok for trickle charging but if the battery goes low you need to use the original wall charger supplied with the phone.
I know this was the problem on my Wizard - wouldn't charge a low battery with a motorola charger but fine with the original.
Mike,
I think I will do a hard reset as a last, last, resort only if all other options are well and truly exhausted. I rebuilt the damned thing for the umpteenth time only 2 weeks ago and I absolutely don't want to go through that pain again.
The frustrating thing is that for the first time since I owned the Tytn (6 months) all the problems I did not know about before I bought it had finally been resolved (excepting the freezing of TomTom, which still remains outstanding).
So just when I thought I could finally start to rely on the Tytn as a fully functioning relible working tool we get this.
I owned a Sony P900 for over 3 and a half years as a business tool (grant you the PDA functionality was a tad restricted compared to the Tytn) and it never failed me once! If it wasn't for a problem with the touch screen and me thinking it was time for a change I would still be using it today.
Anyone else any other suggestions on this problem please? Wiggling the charging cable in the mini-usb port makes no difference. Only a reboot does at this time.
So damned frustrating!
WB
hungry TyTN
Hi,
I have a similar problem. I had a go for the WM6 from LVSW (2007-05-19) and the latest Radio (1.41.00.10) and a brand new out of the box TyTN.. First thing I noticed was that the unit discharges itself very quickly. I've tried various radios without any good luck too. I think it killed my battery, at least it went so low that I could'nt recharge it normally. I had the RED LED blinking fast, constant RED and sometimes AMBER. My tip is to never let the battery fully discharge here.. I had to kickstart it with 3 AA-batteries in serial, and hooked up + and - wires to the TyTNs battery so it could have a little power, or else the TyTN would not charge it anymore. I assumed it could be my old SIM and/or the battery, so I went to th store and got a new battery as replacement for testing this. I am now able to charge, but I the power consumption is far beyond what I expect, it is like 341 ma read with ABC Power Meter....! Even with radio off, wifi off, receive incoming beams off, BT off, screen to minimum brightness, nada... I was expecting a lot less... This hungry device will not last many hours, and the battery does even produce much heat during standby operation, which is not good besides from a hand-warmer in the pocket during winter time maybe... I have also tried using Bandswitch to disable UMTS as maybe the UMTS reception here is not super good, but still working... Even talking on the phone while charging it drains the battery heavily.... to empty...
Besides from all this the WM6 from LVSW seems to be super quick and stable, maybe the very best one to pick for a HERMES.
I am desperate to find a conclusion here...
heeelp..
Update:
I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..
Thought I would come back on this thread.
In the end I had to do a hard reset and rebuild as other problems started to manifest themselves and rebuilding became the easiest option.
Rebuilding has solved the problem; however it might interest you to note that this time I rebuilt the Tytn just like I would build a PC. The OS built itself first, with its associated apps, then I added any other additional OS tools, eg SPB Mobile Shell. I then grouped my apps into a logical order and installed them one by one.
After each install I rebooted the PPC, checked that the last app installed ran ok, then tested every other app to see if they ran as well BEFORE installing the next app. This process was a little tedious but it seems to have paid off.
I have to say though that having rebuilt this piece of kit from scratch at least 20 times in the last 6 months, I just cannot count on it as a reliable business tool in the same way as I did with my previous Symbian device. Shame given how much I spent on it.
When my next upgrade is due a Windows mobile device WON'T be on my list!
WB
Wacky - Get a full back-up tool like SPB backup and you can avoid all that pain. Hard Reset to Restoring a full backup - 10 minutes maybe. Much better than re-installing all those apps everytime you hard reset. And you can create a backup before and after each installation if you wish.
Mike
Mike,
Thanks for the tip. Must admit I had not thought of using SPB backup in the way that you suggest (can't see the wood for the trees sometimes).
Now that I think I have a stable system I will back it up using this tool and create a "line in the sand", in terms of a good system backup.
I still remain to be convinced on the stability/suitability for sustained business use though.
Appreciate your input.
WB
Similar (Battery Meter) Problem
This week, my phone reset for some reason and came up with the screen which shows the current IPL and SPL. The phone still has all the apps and data I installed, so it was not a hard reset. This happened with a 1/2 charge on the battery.
Since that happend a full charge now shows as a 1/2 charge only on the meter and this is as high as the meter will show. The phone still lasts just as long, so there is no physical battery problem.
Anyone know how to fix this without a true hard reset.
Thanks
Mardig,
The only suggestion I have is to hard reset the unit and then rebuild it from scratch. Worked for me.
In any case it may be advisable to do this as it sounds like you have other problems.
Once rebuilt I suggest you take up Mike Channon's suggestion to get a tool and backup the device. That way if you have further problems you at least have a line in the sand to refer back to.
By the way, I am not ruling out a hardware problem in your case. However my starting point would be my suggestions above.
Good luck
WB
Strange TyTN behavior when charging
I bought a car charger for my TyTN and used it for ~4-5 months without a problem. One day a fuse went off and after replacing it with a new one and connecting to TyTN, a TyTN stopped charging completely. I checked at home with an original wall charger - nothing. I was stupid enough to try the same car charger with my second TyTN - not surprisingly it burned the other one too :-(
I got them both fixed, a car charger replaced with a new one, so everything should have been working fine. The following happened:
1. First time a car charger is connected, it works fine and the TyTN is charging.
2. Disconnecting a charger and reconnecting it back after couple of seconds restart charging, however this stops after 1 sec and the screen shows as it is not connected.
3. Repeating step 2 does nothing - no charging starts at all.
4. Soft reset - go back to step 1.
5. When TyTN off and car charger connected - charging is working - amber light is on.
6. Wall charger (original), TyTN on or off - charging is working - amber light is on.
I did hard reset as well thinking it might be a broken driver problem, but it didn't help. Tomorrow will try to reload ROM.
Any ideas?
Help will be appreciated (before I take it back to lab and spend another $40 for repair)
Cheers
eznil said:
I bought a car charger for my TyTN and used it for ~4-5 months without a problem. One day a fuse went off and after replacing it with a new one and connecting to TyTN, a TyTN stopped charging completely. I checked at home with an original wall charger - nothing. I was stupid enough to try the same car charger with my second TyTN - not surprisingly it burned the other one too :-(
I got them both fixed, a car charger replaced with a new one, so everything should have been working fine. The following happened:
1. First time a car charger is connected, it works fine and the TyTN is charging.
2. Disconnecting a charger and reconnecting it back after couple of seconds restart charging, however this stops after 1 sec and the screen shows as it is not connected.
3. Repeating step 2 does nothing - no charging starts at all.
4. Soft reset - go back to step 1.
5. When TyTN off and car charger connected - charging is working - amber light is on.
6. Wall charger (original), TyTN on or off - charging is working - amber light is on.
I did hard reset as well thinking it might be a broken driver problem, but it didn't help. Tomorrow will try to reload ROM.
Any ideas?
Help will be appreciated (before I take it back to lab and spend another $40 for repair)
Cheers
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This is a known issue. It also appears you've realised the soft reset workaround:
In Car charging
(May be relevant to USB/Mains charging also)
Hermes only charges when switched off
Pulling out charger lead (or interrupting power supply) while charging in car (with device on or off ) may result in Hermes only charging while turned off
Possible Solution:
a.) Connect charger with power on
b.) Switch on Hermes
c.) Soft reset whilst connected
Hermes should now charge whilst on or off.
I charge mine in the car but I do not use a car charger but a 12 volt to 240 volt inverter - so I can plug in a mains charger. Never have problems with this and I can also use it to power my laptop.
Examples here of cheap and expensive ones - small ones and large ones:
http://www.sailgb.com/c/12v_inverters_converter/
Mike
mikechannon said:
This is a known issue. It also appears you've realised the soft reset workaround:
In Car charging
(May be relevant to USB/Mains charging also)
Hermes only charges when switched off
Pulling out charger lead (or interrupting power supply) while charging in car (with device on or off ) may result in Hermes only charging while turned off
Possible Solution:
a.) Connect charger with power on
b.) Switch on Hermes
c.) Soft reset whilst connected
Hermes should now charge whilst on or off.
I charge mine in the car but I do not use a car charger but a 12 volt to 240 volt inverter - so I can plug in a mains charger. Never have problems with this and I can also use it to power my laptop.
Examples here of cheap and expensive ones - small ones and large ones:
http://www.sailgb.com/c/12v_inverters_converter/
Mike
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Hi Mike.
Thanks for your prompt response.
I did read that thread, however it seems that it doesn't explain point 2 in my explanation, does it?
Update: tried the method explained, however the situation is still the same - both points 2 and 5.
Regarding the DC-AC inverter - do you use a wall charger or USB output (if there is one, I found one that has both main and USB).
Cheers
eznil said:
Hi Mike.
Thanks for your prompt response.
I did read that thread, however it seems that it doesn't explain point 2 in my explanation, does it?
Cheers
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Unless I misunderstand something - one of the primary causes of the problem is the disconnection whilst charging leading to a refusal to charge when re-connected. To quote my post:
"Pulling out charger lead (or interrupting power supply) while charging in car (with device on or off ) may result in Hermes only charging while turned off "
I realise of course this does not explain things and is just a statement about what happens.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Unless I misunderstand something - one of the primary causes of the problem is the disconnection whilst charging leading to a refusal to charge when re-connected. To quote my post:
"Pulling out charger lead (or interrupting power supply) while charging in car (with device on or off ) may result in Hermes only charging while turned off "
I realise of course this does not explain things and is just a statement about what happens.
Mike
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THe funny thing is that the other TyTN I have doesn't suffer the same behavior and charges fine, even though I disconnected and connected many times while charging.
Yeap, it's strange, unexplainable and most of all extremely annoying.
Thansk a lot for your help.
Solved!!!
Hi.
I am happy to tell that I managed to figure out how to overcome that problem. I hope it will work for all users - I tried it with 2 different TyTNs and it was OK.
The solution is to plug/unplug the USB charger only when the device is off - not a complete shutdown by long press on Power button, but a short one.
If it's OK, when plugging the lead the power button lights up in <1 sec. If not, it takes ~5 sec to go on.
Best regards,
i discovered today....when i plugged my hermes into the car charger, that it wasnt charging.
after a soft reset it charged. an then.....no problems untill about 22:00 pm. i plugged it again and...same thing, it needed a reset to charge.
what could cause this? igo may way and bluetooth gps. coz i think this is the reason.
gangstar said:
i discovered today....when i plugged my hermes into the car charger, that it wasnt charging.
after a soft reset it charged. an then.....no problems untill about 22:00 pm. i plugged it again and...same thing, it needed a reset to charge.
what could cause this? igo may way and bluetooth gps. coz i think this is the reason.
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Please read the thread - this strange behavior is described in details.
Try the solution in my post above - it workes for me, hoefully for you too.
Goos luck.
Background:
I have had MANY PPC's (so many I can't even count them) and I've loaded many different cooked ROMS and such on most of them so I'm not a complete noob on these things (don't claim to be an expert either).
However, my most recent acquisition is an HTC Advantage bought at CompUSA. I've read most of these came with a test ROM and mine was no different except for the fact that when I attempted to update the ROM to the "official" one provided to me by HTC it would not work. I always got the error "Connection lost" about half way through the process. I tried it numerous times and it never worked. On some occasions it would get stuck on the bootloader screen but I was able to get it back to working status (still on the test ROM).
I decided to try installing step 1 of Ollipro's SPL to see if that would help loading the HTC ROM. Turns out that wouldn't work either. It would get stuck at step 1 where it would ask if "PPC gone idle and didn't work or to wait 30 seconds". Tried it many times and would try to get it to keep going but the grey box on the bottom left would say the "parameters were incorrect" and would give me the option to quit, which I would. No problem, at least my 7501 was still working.
After that I tried the official HTC ROM again and I got the same "connection lost" error I had previously, except this time I didn't get anything on my PPC screen, just a black screen, not even the battery charging light behind the joystick lights up anymore. Soft reset...........nothing. Bootloader reset....................nothing. Hard reset.......................nothing. No lights, nada. The only flicker I get is if I try a reset wheen the power cord is connected. A red light flickers behind the joystick whenever I click the reset button. Any ideas or any help?
Sounds to me like the battery is just dead. I bought one at CompUSA (had the test ROM also) and I got the red ring around the joystick too when I tried to turn it on in the store. I left it plugged in awhile and it finally booted up okay. I then replaced the test ROM with the one and only available for the X7501 on HTC USA's web site. Good luck and I hope you get it working!
I think it could be battery related as well but it had a full charge when this happened. For some reason the unit has lost communication with the battery. I'm at a loss.
I got the same problem like you man !!! but i bad luck and so stupid man , i did with HTC X7501 then it dead after that i bought the X7500 then did it again , holy "... " it dead again....man ...So how your phone now bro ????
I left out the battery a half day and tried it again but still dead. Then I left it charging overnight and tried it again but still dead.
I can't believe this. I've never had a bricked device that can't be revived but after so many have seen this post and still no solutions I'm guessing it's no hope.
I met the same situation when I started to unlock Athena ( TMobile Ameo) within not fully charged battery ( less then 70%).
Solution ( try to make BL mode) with connected wallsocket charger ( not connected to PC USB slot) or find 100% charged battery. It helped me two times.
After many tries it changed to BL mode .
Now I didn't start unlock/change ROM without 100% charged battery.
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
Lobstrick said:
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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"heating battery" (i.e. discharging when inserted, you mean?), no charge led = dead bootloader indeed.
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
Hearing these stories makes me nervous. I'm on the stock ROM (mine came from CompUSA with the latest ROM and I don't have an urge to try the cooked ROM yet). I've been using my Athena daily for 4 months, it charges correctly from several different chargers I have (car, computer USB, stock wall charger, aftermarket wall charger).
However, one day 2 weeks ago I went to make a call in the middle of the day and my Athena was dead. D-e-a-d. Usually I can make it back home at night and still have 90-100% on the battery meter, so with no use in the middle of the day and a dead battery, this was weird. It wouldn't turn on, no soft boot, took the battery out and put it back in, and always got nothing.
I bring this up here because when I plugged it in, I encountered similar problems that others here are describing. It wouldn't turn on, and it didn't give me the orange charging light behind the joystick. I ended up leaving it plugged in for a while and finally I got a red ring, not the usual orange. I've only seen red when the battery was almost dead and the unit was on. Then after some more time the ring turned orange and at this point it would turn on again. I still have no idea why my battery died so fast and hard.
So, is there a problem with the battery charging system that is starting to crop up in units that have been used a while???
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I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
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Hi i am no expert but i had simaler problem no display or no lights round ring no responce to any commands (ie hard reset and bootloader ) only red light flickred on reset button all i did was removed battery while pressing reset button and placed new battery and left it on wall charger for couple of hours and before doing hard reset i pressed reset button 2 to 3 times and green light round the battery came up so i tryed bootloader and it worked and insted of flashing it with pc i just loaded the img in sd card and flashed it while whole thing was on charge (i had tmob test rom before ) which i think is best way to do no hassle of losing connection or failing in half way and it works like a charm
hope this helps
and ya if you have a spare battery it dose help
New battery?
I'm a wizard user (and lots of former PDAs) looking to buy and Athena, maybe.
Has anyone tried a new, right out of the envelope, battery? these issues sound like worn out Li-Ion batteries to me. I've had them completely conk (won't take a charge at all) if I let them go completely down, and I've had them wear out and stop taking a full charge (down to maxing out at about %20, but sometimes showing %100 depending on ROM status) when I kept charging them while they're already charged.
Li-Ion batts don't sit for long periods too well, either, so if they're sitting on the shelf at the store/warehouse, they may be suffering even more than one that has been used since earlier in its childhood.
Perhaps the answer is a switched charger that stops charging when the battery (not the ROM/unit reading) gets to %100. ???
I didn't see anything like this posted. I'm terribly curious to see if anyone can resolve it.
nother AMEO dead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1859021#post1859021
Red ring comes for a sec only try to RESET the device with Charger connected
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same here,
i am afraid i got a dead athena too, did you guys found any solution?? i tried switching batteries. this is my first experience with a windows mobile device not powering on, in inrepairable condition.
found another member with similar problems- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1639311&postcount=24
No genius,s on here,just insults
i have read every page on the advantage x7500,being such an old phone you would thin the genius,s on here could sort it out in seconds,but all they do is insult you.i tried to update from windows 6 on radio 1.20 to michys radio 6.5
it got to 94 percent then crashed, now when i boot up i just get a black and white screen,which then turns white,if it try to reinstall advantage 6.0 the phone reets after 2 or 3 percent..will anyboby help by giving simple term advice to unbrick it? NO.will they provide links to there advice no.THEY JUST INSULT YOU AND SAY ITS IN ONE OF THE THREADS.well im a computer tech and if anybody wants there pc or laptop fixing.guess what i will return the favour with computer speak,THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND
this is my firends phone - tmobile cmpact 2 - its never been cooked, standard wm5 rom and no upgrades or downloads. it suddenyl today entered bootload screen - we took out the battery restarted, then it loads to the tmobile splash screen the cuts off, now it wont even turn on
tried charging it, and the charge light doesnt ocm eon, any ideas??
Thanks
anyone?..........................................
You have to enter bootloader mode (look up the wiki for how to) and then run the official rom upgrade for charmer.
my charmer is also dead
right in the middle of typing in an adress at iGO on my Charmer with WM5 it started rebooting and turned black after the T-Mobile bootscreen. And I could only turn it on by removing the battery, waiting for some minutes and then turning on again, just to see the same thing happening - black after T-Mobile screen.
Now I cannot turn it on at all, cannot reset (neither hard nor soft), cannot get into bootloader nor can I charge it (at least no LED is indicating anything).
Does anybody have an idea? vlodeck?
At the moment I am not at home, so I cann't try the original power supply (so far I used the one in the car).
Thanks in advance!
There are two possible outcomes Jared.
Either your power supply in the car is not enough to lift up Charmer.
Or your battery went totally dead, in which case you would have to buy a new battery.
Good luck.
Thanks for the fast support!
the strange thing is, that it all started with battery at about 80%...
I will check on sunday with the original power supply and a battery from another device. Then I will let you know the outcome.
I can lend you my battery, Jared!
...to see if it is really the battery.
Otherwise I can only recommend the HTC Kaiser ;-)
problem solved for now
thanks frikibaby for the offer...
but vlodeck was right. At home I pluged in the charger and it started charging and I can also turn it on again. So for some reason my car charger does not charge the charmer anymore although the indicator and the battery bar says so ...???
Thanks for the support!!