I'm not sure if I'm the only daft bat that does this. But in the past i would use my Hermes under wm6 as a Bluetooth Pan Internet sharing connection with my BA as it had the ability to either Host or establish a Bluetooht PAN link.
Since i've upgraded the BA to Wm6 I've noticed that as with my hermes the betowrk options are severly depreciated. and now when i search for Bluetooth services on the hermes it only shows Dial up networking but doesn't give you the option of Bluetooth PAN as a service it can find or give. also Can not set the init string to send to Bluetooth modem if choosen. thusly cannot tell it the access point etc.etc.
Is there any advise possible to help me link the BA with my hermes using Bluetooth PAN for the internet sharing through the hermes ( yea i know but HSDPA is far faster then the BA's basic 3g hehehe)
RESOLVED: the problem is in the Bluetooth stack of this rom. in short the Wm6 rom appearantly can't find a PAN connection at all as I tried to find the one on my PC at home and it definatly didnt' show anything accept a serial port. However my hermes could see the personal network conenction and once reflashed to the t-mobile latest rom it can now establish a PAN network conenction with pc or hermes300.
guess the bluetooth profiles in the rom for the BA in wm6 are a bit lacking at moment
It works great in Vista
Hi,
My Vista has automatically recognized my Hermes. No need to define a modem or connection string. Just run the Internet Sharing on Hermes and then it is seen in Networks and Sharing Cetner. I just open my IE and it works.
edwardgonen said:
Hi,
My Vista has automatically recognized my Hermes. No need to define a modem or connection string. Just run the Internet Sharing on Hermes and then it is seen in Networks and Sharing Cetner. I just open my IE and it works.
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cool, only problem here is that my Hermes 300 ( t-mobile vario II) using Schaps 3.54c Wm6 Rom has the bluetooth Pan driver for internet sharing, as well as the modem link yea? And the Blue angel now being Windows mobile 6 doesn't show like Wm2003 did. in Wm2003 you could create a Bluetooth Netowrk connection for PAN to the hermes. Or a bluetooth serial connection to the hermes Modem link. Now it only shows Dial up networking in both since they are both wm6. And also doesn't give you the option of an init string entry in the advance network options for the AT+CGD init string that also lists the part "ip", "general.t-mobile.uk" which is the access point when doing Bluetooth DUN.
How would i establish a PAN connection to the hermes Internet sharing with the BA under Wm6 from helmi is the real question?
Ok I can assume then nobody else has 2 windows mobile 6 devices and tries to have one work via the other or nobody other then me has tried this.
Hermes300 windows mobile 6
Blue angel Helmi Windows mobile 6
cannot make a Pan connection in either direction Hermes to Blue angel, or Blue angel to hermes.
this means potentially people with Pda's ( ie: Compaq or HP Ipaq's runnign Wm6 ) or other mobile with wm6 will not be able to use the Helmi rom for internet sharing and really are better off leaving WM2003se on as has more compatability in that regard.
If however others have tried this and found a way to get it working please post =)
Me too
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Ok I can assume then nobody else has 2 windows mobile 6 devices and tries to have one work via the other or nobody other than me has tried this.
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I have two WM5 devices and am having exactly the same problem! I always through DUN was simple enough, but I am not going to get in to a debate about it versus Internet Sharing BUT why the hell did MS remove the "client" functionality? It is all very well and good if your Internet Sharing device (i.e. WM5 or 6 phone) is going to be the "server" but what if it is the client (as many PDAs will be).
I see no way of doing it! Anyone?
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I have two WM5 devices and am having exactly the same problem! I always through DUN was simple enough, but I am not going to get in to a debate about it versus Internet Sharing BUT why the hell did MS remove the "client" functionality? It is all very well and good if your Internet Sharing device (i.e. WM5 or 6 phone) is going to be the "server" but what if it is the client (as many PDAs will be).
I see no way of doing it! Anyone?
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you can still use the Modem link if you can get it to create a serial port bluetooth link , ie: pair the devices and select Serial Port. then under the connections then you would tell it to use Bluetooth Modem
and put in the advanced dialing string for bluetooth DUN.
there are a few threads about bluetooth DUN on this forum.
the only thing i can thnk of that would make this not work however is if the roms your using are cooked roms and the profiles in the bluetooth stack are missing on 1 or both for the features suggested.
this is what stopped me from having this work as the wm6 on the Hermes and on the Helmi rom are missing the profile for HOSTING a PAN directly without internet sharing and dont' offer bluetooth serial port as an option
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Guys, I'm sorry for inconvenience but I haven't any idea how to use the GPRS internet on the desktop computer via USB Cradle. I have a 4.0.0.5 ROM and MS Active Sync 3.7
Thank you for your help!
Hi ...
I 'm not sure there is a solution for this since by using the GPRS your XDA itself will have an IP address. So, it can't be used as a modem ( I might be wrong tho :shock: ).
I think it's better to get a PC card adaptor with a SIM slot for GPRS. The same for WiFi cards.
Good luck
french said:
Guys, I'm sorry for inconvenience but I haven't any idea how to use the GPRS internet on the desktop computer via USB Cradle. I have a 4.0.0.5 ROM and MS Active Sync 3.7
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No easy solution exists (yet...). You need to hook the device up using a serial cable, and then run a ROM-included tool called 'wmodem.exe'. (Tool is only present on some 3.x ROMs, and cannot be used on ROM it isn't included with), or use a really crappy wmethod we came up with a long time ago, using the bootloader.
Both methods require the serial cable, and when you ask our opinion, both methods suck, although the former method sucks less than the latter.
And to add both methodes are slowwwwwww, i mean the connection speed is slow.
:?
Hi Peter Poelman ...
You need to hook the device up using a serial cable, and then run a ROM-included tool called 'wmodem.exe'. (Tool is only present on some 3.x ROMs,
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I have the wmodem since I use 3.18 ROM, but it didn't work except for GSM data connection (not GPRS link). I believe this is because when you use GPRS the XDA becomes the destination IP address not a modem anymore ... or I didn't use the right setup ???
Try dialing "*99#"
Try dialing "*99#"
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it gives a pop-up "Waiting ..." with OK button
Since the PocketPC hase it's owne IP adresse on my personnel network (ping from laptop to pocketpc) it must be possbile to develope a pocketpc proxy gateway.
we could then (using activeSync for LAN connection) connect to the internet via the pocketpc proxy.
Has any one developped or heard about such a software??? :idea:
yann said:
Since the PocketPC hase it's owne IP adresse on my personnel network (ping from laptop to pocketpc) it must be possbile to develope a pocketpc proxy gateway.
we could then (using activeSync for LAN connection) connect to the internet via the pocketpc proxy.
Has any one developped or heard about such a software??? :idea:
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It's not that easy, we looked into it.
Problem is that as soon as the XDA sits in the cradle, the GPRS internet loses its interface, which is then taken by the PPP link to ActiveSYnc running on the desktop. We have not managed to keep up the GPRS and the ActiveSync at the same time.
We're presently convinced the easy answer lies in a tool that presents a fake serial port on the desktop which, via USB and ActiveSync, connects to something like wmodem on the XDA. Let's wait for wmodem or something like it to appear on WM2003, and then we'll see if we can cook up something.
I've used Wmodem, I've used the bootloader method. Wmodem wasn't bad, just not always reliable, and it doesn't exist for PPC 2003 devices. But I finally came up with a great, reliable, and much faster solution.
USE ANOTHER PHONE! :wink: I just swap the SIM and use a T300 via IR when I need to get a connection on my laptop. That way I get GPRS speed (Wmodem seemed stuck at 9600) also.
XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
yann said:
Since the PocketPC hase it's owne IP adresse on my personnel network (ping from laptop to pocketpc) it must be possbile to develope a pocketpc proxy gateway.
we could then (using activeSync for LAN connection) connect to the internet via the pocketpc proxy.
Has any one developped or heard about such a software??? :idea:
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It's not that easy, we looked into it.
Problem is that as soon as the XDA sits in the cradle, the GPRS internet loses its interface, which is then taken by the PPP link to ActiveSYnc running on the desktop. We have not managed to keep up the GPRS and the ActiveSync at the same time.
We're presently convinced the easy answer lies in a tool that presents a fake serial port on the desktop which, via USB and ActiveSync, connects to something like wmodem on the XDA. Let's wait for wmodem or something like it to appear on WM2003, and then we'll see if we can cook up something.
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I solved that problem when checked on the "Allow network and remote access service server connection with this desktop computer", so when you plugging your MDA to the craddle GPRS shuts down, but if you click to reconnect it turns on and working properly while my device is in its craddle. I thought that if my desktop pc using a standart connection to the internet gives internet access to my PPC via active sync (gprs is off) then there must be a way to use gprs connection back from PPC to the desktop PC. :shock:
I've also tried to have a GRPS connection while my ActiveSync connection is on and it works well.
On my pocket PC get two IP adresses, cellular Line IP address (Internet) an Serial on USB IP address (LAN).
Si I guess the only way to get full GPRS via a laptop would be to directly integrate a proxy gateway on the Pocket PC, no need to play or to wait for the wmodem.exe to be integrated for PPC 2003 since we have LAN and Internet connection at the same time on the PPC
Next steep would be to find or program a proxy gateway for PPC.
Any ideas :?:
cheers.
yann
Hey everyone,
Okay I'm going to try and explain what I am trying to do here, but I'm sure I'll miss some steps. I think I know what the problem is, but I still can't figure out a way to resolve it.
I have a Sony Ericsson Z710I mobile phone. I also have an i-mate Jasjar running AKU 3.2 (JW's Rom). Here is what I am attempting to achieve.
I want to use the Z710I as my telephone. I have bluetooth turned on and have connected the Jasjar to it. On the Z710I I have enabled the "bluetooth internet" option and set it to connect to the proper APN. On the Jasjar I have created a new network connection that uses Bluetooth modem, and have put in the APN as *99#.
So when I connect the Jasjar to the internet, it dials the bluetooth on the Z710. It recongnises the *99# command and connects to the proper APN and connection. This is the point in where it just doesn't want to hitch up. The phone has full access to the internet, however ... the Jasjar is just grabbing data traffic and I'm not sure why. It reports connected and is communicating to my knowlege.
When I disconnect the Z710 from the internet, the Jasjar immediatley reports that the modem has disconnected. That why I figure there is communication.
I have tried (on the Jasjar) to edit the network card settings for the bluetooth adapter to 'obtain IP automatically' but it made no difference.
Does anyone have any ideas ( or questions for me to help clairify?)
Thanks
Nathan
What kind of communication did you try? Internet Epxlorer? Opera? Messaging?
For example, IE, which is based on the Connectivity Framework, has a lot of problems that may render a connection non-working - I've written several articles on this stuff. A solution is trying with,say, OpMob / Messaging to be absolutely sure it's not just an IE-related problem.
Menneisyys said:
What kind of communication did you try? Internet Epxlorer? Opera? Messaging?
For example, IE, which is based on the Connectivity Framework, has a lot of problems that may render a connection non-working - I've written several articles on this stuff. A solution is trying with,say, OpMob / Messaging to be absolutely sure it's not just an IE-related problem.
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I tried using activesync as well as IE, google maps and other internet based connections.
I just tried it right now, dialed the connection and tried to activesync. The z710i connected at the Jasjar's request and the Jasjar said connected. It then just sat there "synchronizing folders"
There are two APNs available through my phone. One is for WAP traffic, the other for Internet bound traffic. My phone is connecting properly or it at least setup properly to route traffic over bluetooth to the internet one.
I did hook up the phone through a bluetooth adapter on my computer and used it as a wireless modem it did work there. I wonder if the problem is the Microsoft BT Stack (it doesn't have a PAN profile).
Do we have a way to uninstall the MS BT Stack and install the WIdcomm one which would support PAN?
Just a thought.
Thanks
Nathan
lirathal said:
Do we have a way to uninstall the MS BT Stack and install the WIdcomm one which would support PAN?
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Are you sure the z710i would support PAN server? I don't think so.
If it does, then, check out the Hermes / Wizard Widocmm BT stack hacking-related threads; hope the stack can also be hacked onto the Universal too.
(Unfortunately, AKU3 with its new BT approach (see my related articles if interested) won't work because it only supports BT PAN server mode for dial-up purposes, not client mode.)
Menneisyys said:
Are you sure the z710i would support PAN server? I don't think so.
If it does, then, check out the Hermes / Wizard Widocmm BT stack hacking-related threads; hope the stack can also be hacked onto the Universal too.
(Unfortunately, AKU3 with its new BT approach (see my related articles if interested) won't work because it only supports BT PAN server mode for dial-up purposes, not client mode.)
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I'm not sure how to check if it supports Bluetooth PAN server. I know that the Z710I can be used as a Bluetooth Modem (as I said previous, I hooked it up to my computer and used it as a internet connection - but when I did that I had to enable PAN client support on the PC [i think]) .. So is this where we are inherantly are having the problem? The Jasjar doesn't support PAN Client therefore, when it connects it doesn't know what to do with the connection?
I have figured it out.
I connected my Z710I to my laptop and I examined the "dial-up" connection and the syntax for the connection number was *99***2#
I changed the connection on my Jasjar, connected and everything is wicked. Now I can still sync my Jasjar while using a regular phone for a while.
Talk about a Personal Area Network .
Thanks for all the help.
hey,
i've searched through the forum and didnt find anything about this,
i'm trying to get my universal to network with my PC through BT so i could:
1. use SMB file sharing (e.g \\192.168.0.1\)
2. have the universal use my PC's internet connection.
i know this *screams* for WIFI, but it's not an option as i need to do it in my workplace, and im not allowed to have a wifi router there.
i managed to set up BT PAN through the internet sharing app, but then the uni uses the GPRS connection instead of the PC's.
i tried syncing with ActiveSync, and that DID gave me internet connection,
but i had problems sharing my drives, and connecting to other apps like msn, remote desktop, and probably anything other than HTTP.
Is there a way to set up a REAL network between my PC and uni with the MS BT stack?
The widcomm stack is not an option, sadly. It gives me problems answering calls while driving, or through my private headset...
anyone?
i really need this.
I'm not sure about file sharing, but I know you can set up internet access via BT. I've done it through another cellphone (3G), not a PC, but the key is to make sure that "connect to Internet" is set for BT as modem.
Also, on a related note, I know you can use the WM version of LogMeIn to access a PC... so, theoretically, you could BT to access the Internet, and then come back in on the Internet to access the PC.
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the key is to make sure that "connect to Internet" is set for BT as modem.
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where do i set that?
Sorry, I haven't done it for a while, and I'm not a total expert....
Read Reidan's comments in this thread:
http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15255
Folks... what about following my tutorials / articles cross-posted to the General forum here? I've discussed this problem & the solutions (as with a lot of other questions / problems asked on all PPC boards) to it in SEVERAL articles.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282780
i tried to pair my athena with my apple the other to get the internet connection.
after the pairing, i only find the headphone service on my athena.....
no modem is found.....
i had an hermes working just with apple....
how come the athena doesn;t support this feature?
thanks
Have you tried Start -> Programs > Internet Sharing?
Hi,
the only way I got this to work with my apple is with the Missing Sync For Windows Mobile software. With this you can sync everything and use the internet connection sharing feature. I absolutely recommend getting that software if you are a mac user!
Cheers,
Urfin
Missing Sync is good for syncing. For using the Ameo as a BT Modem, You have to start internet sharing from Programs. Afterwards, when you click on the BTicon on the menu bar of the mac, you find a new entry similar to "connect with Pocket PC". w
When you click that, your mac is connected via the ameo with the Internet!
Hi all,
I've seen a lot of threads specifying how one would go about using the bluetooth to share the phone's internet connection. However, I would like to do the opposite, that is, share the PC's internet connection via bluetooth so that I can surf the net on my phone (I do not have wifi). Any help would be most appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274581&highlight=bluetooth+modem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313886&highlight=bluetooth+modem
many more hits of you use search and search "bluetooth AND modem"
thanks for the reply, but i already know how to do this. Perhaps you didn't understand my question; I do not want to use my XDA as a bluetooth modem. I would like to use my home ADSL connection via bluetooth to access the internet through my phone. This feature was there by default in my SE P910i, and I'm sure it should be possible to do this via my XDA as well. Once again, I do NOT want to use my XDA as a bluetooth modem
when connected to activesync pda's have the same network access as the pc they are connected to unless one have disabled it
so synch with bluetooth to your pc and you got it's internet
Check this page. Hope it helps you
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=449
I'm successfully running such a setup, using Linux (w/ bluez stack) on the Internet Gateway. However, I had only luck with the Widcomm stack on the Windows Mobile, w/ the MS stack, I could not manage to find any way to use DUN or NAP. With Widcomm, you can configure access via a "Bluetooth Access Point", which will use DUN services on the Host (Gateway) computer. On Linux, this means setting up dund (comes with bluez) and configuring a PPP profile for it.
Any idea if Widcomm BT stack is available for installing it on WM5. I think mine is with MS by default and couldnt find an option to configure it.
I think it isn't offered for free to the public. Nevertheless, there seem to be a few CABs with the broadcom/widcomm stack out there in the WWW. Google might lead you the way...
Thanks a lot for the feedback guys.
I have succesully used DUN with both my original iMate Jamin ROM and PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6 ROM to access the internet via a linux box running Bluez and dund.
I was hoping the new PAN profile in wm6 would allow me to simplify and setup a standard wm6 PANU -> linux NAP. However it looks like wm6 only supports running as a NAP and wont allow you to do that unless your connected to the internet via GRPS etc.
Is it possible to either add support for PANU in wm6 or activate the NAP without an active connection?