I was just wondering what is the average time of battery life on your wing..mines is currently about 10 hours idle but while im using it that goes down to about 5 or 4 i just wanted to know what is the average before i call t-mobile and ask for a new battery.
A few of us here have been having problems with the battery actually. When I first got the phone, I left it clean and stock. I would do a lot of texting, make a couple phone calls, and play a few games here and there. From 7am to 1am, I would go from 100% to about 54% (18 hours of usage). Now, if I leave my phone idle for 2 hours, my battery drops down from 100% to 80%... I can't even go a full day without needing to charge the darn thing. 200 hour idle time my arse!
But personally, I don't think it's a problem with the battery... The phone is doing something in the background which is causing a massive battery drain. Right now, I'm testing my phone to see if I still suffer the same drain while in flight mode. I'll post the results HERE in about an hour from now.
The longest the battery can last is 1 week...
On a full charge, you can talk for 5 hours...
the more features you use, the more power it'll consume.. if you do a lot of internet browsing, I believe I saw GPRS Data connections use more power then WiFi.. so use wifi when available ...
also, be sure to regularly check your phone's task manager before setting it aside for long periods of time... sometimes it can be hard to notice the camera, text/mms, calender, Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player, are all running in the background while you're at the home screen...
My wing usually lasts me from unplug at 8am until plugin at midnight... power usage always varies a lot as... as you can tell.. the data connections use a lot of power... and if wifi isn't available, it uses at least 30% more power doing a GPRS Transfer -- based on the initial information i've read about the issue.
BBM-Lee said:
The longest the battery can last is 1 week...
On a full charge, you can talk for 5 hours...
the more features you use, the more power it'll consume.. if you do a lot of internet browsing, I believe I saw GPRS Data connections use more power then WiFi.. so use wifi when available ...
also, be sure to regularly check your phone's task manager before setting it aside for long periods of time... sometimes it can be hard to notice the camera, text/mms, calender, Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player, are all running in the background while you're at the home screen...
My wing usually lasts me from unplug at 8am until plugin at midnight... power usage always varies a lot as... as you can tell.. the data connections use a lot of power... and if wifi isn't available, it uses at least 30% more power doing a GPRS Transfer -- based on the initial information i've read about the issue.
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I noticed Bluetooth and WiFi taking more battery than GPRS
As long as I plug it in while I am at work to a USB cable, I don't seem to have any battery problems. I use GPRS and SMS constantly.
I spend the whole day on the phone ... between texting and I receive all my work email directly to my phone... so I'm on it various times during the hour... and it seems the battery drain is huge.
all I have done is turn the screen brightness down whenever I'm not using it, and have the dynamic overclocking on, so the processor goes down whenever its not in use ... but I still think the battery drain on the wing is ridiculous.
Well david, overclocking doesnt help
Im clocked at 247mhz, i can make it last about 24 hours using it here and there. calls about once a hour for 5 min or less, texting through the day, and occasional wifi use. at stock clock speeds, it lasted about a day and a half, but it all depends how much you use it
At 1st i thought the battery darin was rediculous as well but when u think about it when u use it the battery goes down about 8 times as fast( depensing on what ur actually doing w/ it.
Now i charge it at night and go to school with fully loaded battery 6AM, i text all the time and when i get home its around 85% 2:30PM, use it occasionally and at the end of the day after at least 3 hours of talk time its on around 30-20% i could last w/o charging it but i charge it overnight to full, with NORMAL use and not talking for about 4 hours per day so far its lasted 4 days for me. could have made it to 6 but i wanted to showoof my new phone to my friend
so battery life is not that bad just depends how much u use it, Also if ur listening to music just turn off the screen and thats a REAL battery saver. also press the power button when on the phone and etc.
Wing Battery Drain
I have improved my Wing battery drain by doing the following...
- Turn off the automatic weather update on the Today Plug-in
- Check my emails manually (do send receive when I am ready to read)
- Suspend device when not in use - need to use device lock app.
- Update ROM to PDA Viet v 14 (thanks to easy instructions from David)
With the new ROM and the device locked - even the accidental press of any of the face buttons (when phone is in pocket) turns the device back on - even though the screen remains locked (due the Device lock app). Is there any way to suspend the device completely so can only be turned on by hitting the power button only? I would still want to receive / answer calls etc. without having to hit the power button....
Go to settings, Lock ... and there is an option to lock all buttons except the power button when device is powered down.
I am trying to fix my sisters Wing (I have a Wizard). I have tried disabling background programs, as well as setting things to be more gentle on power usage, and still she loses battery like crazy. I know the Wizard had some battery drain issues with certain WM6 cooked roms, and a cab fix helped. Does anyone have a cab fix for the Wing? Also, reading in this forum section, it seems that the Wing doesn't always disable background programs. Would you suggest a third party task manager to "pick up the slack" or does it not matter, due to the nature of the winged beast?
I appreciate any suggestions. While I am new to the Herald, I am "old hat" on the Wizard, so I do have a general understanding of how the HTC devices work.
Thank you in advance.
I have read a lot of bad stuff about battery life with every rom except the OME t-mo. I had the PDA viet and battery life was terrible, With the stock rom it is at least 4x longer.
hello ive the same problem with the last 4 wings ive and ever since ive switch from the stock Tmo OS and upgraded to the TouchFlo OS, Ive noticed a huge differnce with the battery life even overclocked
If your will to taking the risk ide say go for it, i jus started messing around with rom and i got say its a big improvment from the original wing which i was ready to throw against a wall!!
I have Touch Flo on my Wing, and if I charge it to capacity I usually only need to do so it every other day so long as I don't play any NES games on it. I keep the wifi off if I'm not using it of course. I have it dynamically stepping the CPU in a range from 100mhz to 234mhz. It really seems to help extend the battery for me, while still giving it the tiny extra kick it needs to run nes and sms games.
My wife has the official wm6 rom on hers, but is also dynamically overclocked as mine is. She needs to charge hers nightly, BUT she also plays solitaire and bubble breaker daily.
Overall it's on par for battery life with my prior motorola phone, which I never used for anything but regular phone calls. With that in mind I'm not necessarily impressed, but am definitely content with it.
I've had HORRIBLE battery life and AWESOME battery life, all within the same week. lol
There was a problem I had at one time, where filesys.exe would take over all the CPU and kill my battery.
Here's what I do, though.
Dynamic overclocking/underclocking
Turn off GPRS when not in use
Disable Push Mail
Turn off WIFI and Bluetooth
Turn the screen brightness down
Turn off the screen altogether, even when on a call, unless you need to see what's on it
There's a few tweaks out there that deal with enabling the power saving features on L2TP and stuff...
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I've had my wing about a week now and have a question concerning battery usage.
It has always been my understanding that batteries will develop a "memory" if you charge and recharge them under their full charge capacity.
i.e. if you use it down to 60% and then charge it to 100% it will remember that and not use the full original 100% charge. obviously over time not just from a single "half charge" like that.
So since every time you connect it to USB to sync it begins the charging process, won't that wear down the battery and make it develop such a memory?
Is their anyway to connect to to the PC without having it charge?
I have always preferred to have any mobile device drain it's battery to nearly empty before recharging to try and minimize the memory effect.
Thanks
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First post here-
I've had my wing about a week now and have a question concerning battery usage.
It has always been my understanding that batteries will develop a "memory" if you charge and recharge them under their full charge capacity.
i.e. if you use it down to 60% and then charge it to 100% it will remember that and not use the full original 100% charge. obviously over time not just from a single "half charge" like that.
So since every time you connect it to USB to sync it begins the charging process, won't that wear down the battery and make it develop such a memory?
Is their anyway to connect to to the PC without having it charge?
I have always preferred to have any mobile device drain it's battery to nearly empty before recharging to try and minimize the memory effect.
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Today's lithium ion batteries do not develop this like older rechargable batteries. You can plug your phone in at any time without worrying about losing battery capacity!
Thank chris30_2001, good to know.
oh and it's ALWAYS lupus
I listen to Streaming Radio with my Wing at work all day. I get approximately 4 hours of listening time before I have to swap out with another fully charged battery.
I use PBar to shut off the screen while listening.
I'm running the touch rom without the actual touch. I can't remember which one it is. I spend at least an hour a day gaming (text twist, random solitaires) on it. I usually hit up the web a few times a day for 10 minutes a shot. I use it as an ebook reader. I send txts constantly. I talk about half an hour a day. All this leaves me with about 30% - 50% of my battery by day's end. Now, if I turn on bluetooth all day it will end up around 18%. Wifi is such an evil power hog I never turn it on, EDGE is fast enough for me. I charge my every night under my pillow (it's my alarm too). Battery life has been the same since I got it about 6 months ago.
Edited to add: I also do some dynamic underclocking for things that don't need a huge amount of power, like my budget program, etc.
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Hi folks,
I have bought touch 3452 3-4 days back... what i observe is battery drains off quickly. if i charge at night and listen music for an hour in morning, battery drains from 100% to 70%. with 2-3 calls and little operations, till afternoon, it discharges to 55%....
Is this the problem with 3452 or only for my piece... anybody facing same problem???
Hello fella!
After i send my Elf for repair to my guarantee they keep my battery for 4 weeks discharged! Now my Battery has not even 25% of the power it had before It needs very long to charge at 100% but after listening music for an hour its almost empty!
I already made a thread on the accessories section for anyon interessted
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Hello fella!
After i send my Elf for repair to my guarantee they keep my battery for 4 weeks discharged! Now my Battery has not even 25% of the power it had before It needs very long to charge at 100% but after listening music for an hour its almost empty!
I already made a thread on the accessories section for anyon interessted
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Hi dude....
when did face battery problem?? just after repair or even before it also???
My cell is 3-4 days old, so for a new phone, it could be quite unlikely problem !!!! thinking of getting piece replaced (though chances are close to 0%)
My battery was fine and quite reliably before... I guess you judge a bit to quick about your new battery! Charge it at 100% and discharge it to about 10% and repeat that procedure for about a week! A brand new battery has not the full capacity at start and needs some cycles to get "in life"...
Good luck!
as sercio said above, use the battery to its lowest level (before reaching the yellow line), turn it off, then recharge it.
do this procedure about 5 times, then your battery will be fine.
but dont worry, it's a normal thing.
battery really discharges very fast when listening to music, or using bluetooth or wi-fi.
Also make sure that when you are closing apps that you are really closing them and not letting them run in the background. The task manager is set up as default to only minimize when you tap the X - Go into your task manager settings and change this to close on X or make sure that you go into your task manager and really close all applications that you don't need running anymore.
You might want to adjust your backlight settings as well to save on power
Some applications are heavier on battery then others as well. Check and see how each application uses battery. I know from what I have been using that some applications use the battery really heavily so much that even using for 5 minutes will drain 10% of the battery. Be careful with what you use on your device. WIFI also uses a lot of battery; however, you can adjust this as well under WIFI settings - You get less performance from your WIFI by doing this though. When listening to music - if you don't need the backlight on - then let it shut off. S2P automatically turns backlight off after a bit - TCPMP = you can set the backlight off manually and still use the hard keys to switch songs and play with volume - You can map the hadware keys manually.
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Also make sure that when you are closing apps that you are really closing them and not letting them run in the background. The task manager is set up as default to only minimize when you tap the X - Go into your task manager settings and change this to close on X or make sure that you go into your task manager and really close all applications that you don't need running anymore.
You might want to adjust your backlight settings as well to save on power
Some applications are heavier on battery then others as well. Check and see how each application uses battery. I know from what I have been using that some applications use the battery really heavily so much that even using for 5 minutes will drain 10% of the battery. Be careful with what you use on your device. WIFI also uses a lot of battery; however, you can adjust this as well under WIFI settings - You get less performance from your WIFI by doing this though. When listening to music - if you don't need the backlight on - then let it shut off. S2P automatically turns backlight off after a bit - TCPMP = you can set the backlight off manually and still use the hard keys to switch songs and play with volume - You can map the hadware keys manually.
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i hav set option of closing apps to 'close on X'.
also i dont use wifi n bluetooth.
I listen music using TCPMP.. i dont know if TCPMP is consuming more power...
yesterday i barely listened to music for 1 hour... then was browsing thru MS excel and calendar... still battery drained to 10 %
as suggested by other folk (above), i hav done this cycle of 100% to 10% n charge again 4 times already...
still wondering if i start using wifi, how soon it will discharge.. !!!!
I m planning to go to shop where i bought it from (CHROMA, tata enterprise) to ask for this prob.... but i m sure he will turn down any request regarding replacing battery
if draining battery is common problem with all PDA-touchscreens (and not only with my piece), then i shud better keep quiet and keep charging it frequently..
based on what you are sayin - your battery should not be draining that quickly. If I was to only do what you say you are doing - I would only loose maybe a little bit of battery life - like one hour a music using TCPMP or S2P are all roughly the same - might be about 5% loss of battery - as long as I turn off the backlight. One hour of internet browsing usually about 7% to 10% loss for me on my Elf. Listening to internet radio for one hour with backlight turned off usually about 7% battery drain for me. Watching a half hour episode of southpark using TCPMP usually drains about 6% of the battery for me. When I leave my phone in Standby - I can leave it for a whole day and the next day turn it on and it is still at 99% or 100% still. (depending on whether I received any texts etc...) I have never noticed how much a phone call drains the battery. Never checked that.
Keep in mind. I am running Ultimate Launch and all my today plugins that I use are on different ultimate launch pages. My main ultimate launch page has no plugins and I have it set up to disable the plugin if it is not visible - (Therefore no resources required from device and no power required from battery) unless I go to view the page with those plugins. My main ultimate launch page has no plugins (Just shortcuts) so no extra drainage of the battery required to run that page. IF you have alot of plugins displayed on your screen, running at the same time - you will see your battery draining quicker and then running apps is extra.
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based on what you are sayin - your battery should not be draining that quickly. If I was to only do what you say you are doing - I would only loose maybe a little bit of battery life - like one hour a music using TCPMP or S2P are all roughly the same - might be about 5% loss of battery - as long as I turn off the backlight. One hour of internet browsing usually about 7% to 10% loss for me on my Elf. Listening to internet radio for one hour with backlight turned off usually about 7% battery drain for me. Watching a half hour episode of southpark using TCPMP usually drains about 6% of the battery for me. When I leave my phone in Standby - I can leave it for a whole day and the next day turn it on and it is still at 99% or 100% still. (depending on whether I received any texts etc...) I have never noticed how much a phone call drains the battery. Never checked that.
Keep in mind. I am running Ultimate Launch and all my today plugins that I use are on different ultimate launch pages. My main ultimate launch page has no plugins and I have it set up to disable the plugin if it is not visible - (Therefore no resources required from device and no power required from battery) unless I go to view the page with those plugins. My main ultimate launch page has no plugins (Just shortcuts) so no extra drainage of the battery required to run that page. IF you have alot of plugins displayed on your screen, running at the same time - you will see your battery draining quicker and then running apps is extra.
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I installed abcPowerMeter for checking current consumption..
It shows wierd results. sometimes with no apps running, it shows 120mA and other times 196mA.
While playing TCPMP songs, it sometimes shoots above 200mA and sometimes no change in previously displayed value..
I manually obesrved that i talked on call for 4 mins and battery drained by 3% (71% to 68%). similar for other calls.
I have no plugins on home screen except HTC Today.
Also i observe that playing with MS excel or explorer even for an hour drains battery by more than 10%...
I am clueless if my battery is faulty, or my piece is faulty or P3452 itself has this battery draining problem
hmmm? Do you have constant data connection? I don't have a data plan so I only use WIFI and always turn it off when I am not using it. Bluetooth as well. All my settings are set so that nothing runs on my device unless I turn it on myself. No internet though my provider as (no automatic weather updates, Email... I have to turn WIFI on and then manually update my weather myself and get my emails myself. If you have your device set up to automatically grab these things, this will drain your device quicker. Having data connection always running or bluetooth always on will drain device quicker. Listening to music though bluetooth headphones drains battery quicker then listening to music using wired headphones. I also don't keep my screen brightness at top level. I turn it up if I need to but I rarely need to do this. Other apps running in the background will also drain battery quicker (even if you don't see them running in your task manager eg. Ilock for S2U2 will require system resources *I am assuming). I have my backlight shut off rather quick and S2U2 is set up on my device to shut off screen rather quick as well. If you are running S2U2 as well and have an animated gif wallpaper, this will drain battery faster.
I don't know if this would have any effect but have you installed a lot of apps on your device? Even if you have uninstalled them, they may have left a footprint of some sort that might be causing some of your power issues. I noticed when I first got my phone and was experimenting with lots of different applications that even after uninstalling them, my phone was not responding as quickly as it orriginally did and started even having some problems running some apps that had no problems in the past and I was having memory problems as the system was still showing that it's resources were still being used. I did a hard reset after finding all of the apps that I wanted and thenafter hard reseting I re-installed everything fresh and then set up my phone the way that I wanted. After doing this, my device was running and still is running very nice, quick and smooth and have not had the battery problems you are describing.
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I installed abcPowerMeter for checking current consumption..
It shows wierd results. sometimes with no apps running, it shows 120mA and other times 196mA.
While playing TCPMP songs, it sometimes shoots above 200mA and sometimes no change in previously displayed value..
I manually obesrved that i talked on call for 4 mins and battery drained by 3% (71% to 68%). similar for other calls.
I have no plugins on home screen except HTC Today.
Also i observe that playing with MS excel or explorer even for an hour drains battery by more than 10%...
I am clueless if my battery is faulty, or my piece is faulty or P3452 itself has this battery draining problem
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Well my problem was even worse
After I bricked my elfin (thought it was an elf lol) I sent it back to htc. Eventhough I didnt put any facture with it (it's 2nd hand) they made it for free (in garanty) by exchanging mobo + vibrator (lol!). And that when I only needed the original software, so they have good service as far as I know..
But back to subject: I think it's your battery indeed. I guess there are more people having elf/elfin battery issues. Mine was:
After barely 2 weeks my battery got sucked empty in like 1 hour or even faster. Tried usb, normal charging, etc but nothing worked. It said it was charging but even turned off. So I bought a new battery but still the same problem, so it has to be the charging unit of the phone or something. Now I asked for another repair and hope they'll pick it up tomorrow. I'll let you guys know if I get it back!
Anyone has had some sort of the same issue?
I've had my Touch HD a couple of weeks now and I absolutely love it. My primary use of it is as a pocket pc and the phone comes in as a handy extra.
However, I seem to be getting battery usage problems that other people have been experiencing and I have a few questions.
I'm using Powerguard and AEButton Plus to show me my power usage. Both report about 85mA when no applications are running and no data connections are in use. I have my backlight turned down pretty low, activesync closed down and I don't use AEButton Plus to turn WiFi on and off as I don't use WiFi. Is 85mA about right? I've no idea what it is while it's in standby.
Yesterday I used my Touch HD a lot, playing about with GPS, surfing etc and by the end of the day I had over 60% charge left. Today, after a full charge overnight from the mains, I have used my Touch HD very much less but I'm already down to 56%. Powerguard still reports about 85mA when my pocket pc is idle but I've been able to watch the percentage power drop every minute or so. Then it would speed up and at other times slow down again.
Why would the battery drain so much faster today with the same or less power being drawn? AEButton Plus reports an uptime of only 1.5 hours yet almost half the battery is used up.
The battery is only a couple of weeks old. I cycled it about three times when I got it, ie letting it run down completely and then charging it back fully. I'm not charging it in the cradle but directly off the mains overnight. Has the battery lost it's calibration so quickly?
If I have applications or devices drawing more power, shouldn't I see that in a higher level current usage. When I have GPS on it goes up to about 300mA so I'm assuming that at 85mA there is nothing else running that shouldn't be running.
I have spent a lot of time installing all the applications etc onto my Touch HD and so only want to hard reset as a very last resort. I really need to be able to use my pocket pc and get on with my life now, but I can't if I'm worrying about whether it will last through a phone call.
I've got a spare battery on order, but I would really like find out why my battery is draining so much more quickly now.
Please help. I love my Touch HD. It does everything that I want and it's gorgeous, but I need it's battery to last at least a day.
Thanks,
Teresa
Sorry, I should also add that I'm using the stock V1.56 ROM.
Teresa
This is getting weird now. I've now started to use my Touch HD more. I made a 20 minute phone call, ran TomTom for a few minutes and now I've had google maps running with GPS for about half an hour and I've only lost a few percent. My power is at 50%. It seems that the more power I draw from the battery, the more slowly it goes down.
Do I need to cycle my battery again? I'm worried about doing this too often as it stresses the battery and shortens it's life.
Teresa
batt and batt % are not a reliable thing
you can't really rely very much on it
and it's never linearly
I know the battery usage isn't linear and it tends to speed up as more power is used. However, the pocket pc uses the value to decide when to shut down. My Touch HD has just run out of power with an uptime of only 3 hours and 50 minutes and it was fully charged only sixteen hours ago. This does not leave me confident in being able to use it for a whole day.
What can I do to improve the battery life? I have an HP iPAQ hx4700 with a four year old battery in it that still lasts ages and ages. I don't think I'll get anywhere near as long a life from my Touch HD battery. I only need it to last a day between charges with an uptime of at least six hours or more. As soon as the capacity of this battery starts to degrade, it will be useless as it's only just useful now.
Teresa
get dotfreds taskmanager too see what processesvare are running inthe background.
use advanced config to enable the power saving features
Thanks for the suggestions. I've already spent ages searching these forums so I have been using dotfreds taskmanager and all I see is idle running at about 80% because the other 20% is being used by the task manager. AEButton plus only uses about .1% every few seconds. Is 85mA usage high for idle?
I'll try advanced config to turn on the powersaving features.
I need my pocket pc and phone all day to day as I'm out and won't be able to recharge it after this morning. I just hope it lasts.
Teresa
Hi,
In this forum I saw many tips how to reduce the battery usage. You could search those.
For example turn off 'Receive all incoming beams' in Setting/Connections/Beam.
You also can flash one of the cooked ROMs that present here. I use onkolog's Lite ROM and battery usage is very low (10-20% per day with moderate usage).
Thanks, but turning off incoming beams is one of the first things I did. I think I've followed most of the tips I've found and I've even managed to stop that pesky activesync from keeping on coming back.
I'm not running Powerguard today and I'll just use my Touch HD normally and see how it goes.
I don't want to flash a cooked rom just yet as I've never done that before, but I'll try that eventually if my battery usage continues to be so poor. I have a lot of applications installed on my Touch HD, so building it takes a very long time. I use it for everything, from shopping lists, access databases, reading ebooks, playing games, satnav to plain old diary. These are all applications that ran quite happily on my old pocket pc without undue battery usage. The only main difference on my Touch HD is that I'm using TFDetacher so that I can still have my old Today screen as well as Touch Flo.
Hi, only if you run out of solutions, you could look at this thread for an extra battery (I've not tried it myself but it increases your battery life by 200%)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529673
Thanks for that, smeddy. This looks like a really interesting product. I will look out for what people say about it.
My battery seems to be much better so far today. I'm still on 100% with an uptime of 25 minutes since I charged it up over four hours ago.
85mA while idling is reasonable if you have backlight level at >50%.
68mA is the lowest I've seen at minimal backlight level on my HD.
Hey TeresaTT,
Something I can tell you with a high degree of confidence is that you really cant trust the battery gauge on the HD that much, either under idle conditions or with higher battery loading. And just try doing a reset and I bet that it'll will come up on a different % value after you reboot!
Another thing is that battery consumption is quite dependant on not only how you configure various functions of your phone but also what ROM you use. My present ROM seems to be noticeable more battery effecient than many of the ROMs I tried before, and most especially the stock ROM that came with the phone, and the stock ROM I initially upgraded to.
EDIT:
Cant comment on the battery current consumptions as I've never felt the need to measure them.
LoopyLoo
Thanks for the info. My Touch HD draws 85mA with the backlight set pretty low, just one point off the lowest. Therefore it seems that the usage is pretty high. I'll have to look at other roms and try one or two, although I need to wait until I've got some more time free. I've already spent hours and hours on my Touch HD, but I do love it. It's a huge upgrade from my old HP iPAQ hx700.
Before my battery would last about a day but after flashing to my current custom ROM now lasts 2 to 3 days with moderate usage. If left on standy idle the % doesn't seem to go down. Probably last a week doing nothing...
I believe the official ROM I had before was buggy with power management i.e. even when on standby with screen off, sometimes it may not cut off power sucking features like WIFI, gprs/hsdpa, bluetooth etc.
Thanks for that ez2remember. It looks like my Touch HD is behaving normally with a stock ROM. I've had a quick look at the ROM forum and it almost looks like a foreign language. Even the dummies guide is a bit foreign with HSPL, USPL etc. Then I have to pick which ROM to use and hope it's stable and all my applocations work. I can see that this is going to take quite a bit of time for me to research. I'm fairly technical so I'll get there in the end.
Yes I agree flashing can seem a bit daunting. This is my first real WM device. I've played with one briefly before so found the conversion slightly complicated. I came from s60 devices. Dummies and step-by-step guides on s60 were really easy to follow. I just think WM users are far more technical so instructions seems more complicated than it actually is.
It's just a matter of getting the latest HSPL onto your device (one time affair) then you can flash as many custom ROMs as you want.
You can use nue ClockSpeed 1.3 to manage the clock of the processor.
www.nuerom.com
Also, Pocket Shield will switch off screen wile talking, and a lot of functions I don't use.
My garmin gps shut down few days ago and i had to use garmin in my HD for around 1.5hrs....
I think i lost only around 20-30% charge.
My battery lasts atleast 2 days with wifi on all the time ( wifi auto off in standby mode.)
I do make few calls and sms
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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-1% every 3 minutes
-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
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-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
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I wish I got 2 days
we really need extended battery ,hd1 battery was much more better.
Good mate but yes i agreee HTC has come up with a battery eating device this time around. My device on full charge just gives in around 8-10 hrs. This might be dat my EDGE is on and 7 mails accounts sending mails back and forth.
but truly i think that HTC better look into this very seriously cause more and more ppl are suffering in this battery drain..
Any of flashing roms and radio not helping either... did a complete hard reset but no step up
HTC come with longer battery battery for bigger devices soon......
The only solution i see now is get one of those extra battery worth mind bogling £52.87
I've had this problem ever since flashing to 1.66, I flashed the radio to 2.07.50.27 as this was said to solve the problem but it hasn't made any difference after a few days of use. My battery life used to be significantly better when I was on the original stock ROM, so much so I'm considering going back to it
I also know all the tricks as to clawing back the battery drain, my phone is idle on my desk at work most of the time and I don't use Wi-Fi, all the location stuff is turned off as are weather, stock and other updates plus my screen is set to 30% then off after 60 seconds. Despite all of that I lose 1% every 2-3 minutes
It seems to me that perhaps the radio is checking for reception pretty much constantly rather than say, 5-10 mins perhaps? This used to be a problem on my old Blackberry Storm but a few fimware updates solved it, eventually!
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Suggestions/hints welcome! I've had a semi-thorough look into this on the forums and tried most of the suggestions but still the problem remains. Will battery life improve after a few charges perhaps as this was a trait of my Storm's battery, the more you charged it the better the day to day battery life was (and no it wasn't because I had it plugged in all the time! Over time the general charge just seemed to improve when roaming).
Thanks!
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
Hexjibber said:
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
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That is a very interesting comment. Although since upgrading to radio 2.07.51.05_2 I have had very good battery life, I too have noticed a slowdown after 50%
romac said:
You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
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Nothing is turned on, everything is set to manual.
As I stated I know all the basic stuff. I understand that all these things have a bearing on battery loss.
Everything I stated in the first post is for when I have nothing running. The phone is just sitting there running sense, thats all.
I have had my HD2 for a few days now. I am on Vodacom in South Africa.
I have not had a problem with battery life.
Yesterday i unplugged from the charger at 07:00. I spent about 1 and 1/2 hours of talk time on the phone, it was permanently connected to 3g doing weather updates etc. Sent and received a couple of sms's. Also played with a few tweaks and reboots.
When i got home at about 18:00 i had over 30% battery. I then surfed the web for over 2 hours to drain the battery.
try setting Network Selection to Manual
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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Same here with and without stock ROM.
yeah.. the phone is a battery sucker.... another cons of HD2....
This is very interesting to read because I do not have this problem. When I left my HTC HD2 on last night (I woke up at 4 in the morning to get something to drink and unplugged it) and then woke up at 8, it was at 98%. That means it went from 100% to 98% in 4 hours. Not to bad imo.
I am now at work and it is 15:34, and I am at 87%. I have made some calls, watched some videos, send a few text messages. Not much (I am at work so I got other things to do). So 08:00 (98%) - 15:34 (87%) - that's 7 and a half hours, with some calls, text messages and a video.
I am pretty sure when I get home at 18:30 the battery will still be above 75%. Then I connect to my wifi at home, refresh twitter, weather, browse the web a little bit, check e-mail etc. So that will drain my battery a little more.
But overall I have not had any problems with my battery life. I always make it trough a day, and never have a problem like 'damn my battery is almost done and I am not near a charger'.
Some info that might help:
I do not sync ANYTHING automatically. I still have some things to do with my Vodafone contract and do not have an unlimited plan yet. I only sync at home on my own wifi connection. For me this is not a problem, because I only need to refresh the weather each morning to see what the day is going to be like. Twitter I only do when I have the time. Stocks I do not use.
I have screen brightness set to automatic.
I am on 3G most of the time.
I am running the official 1.66 Dutch ROM.
I have some tweaks, games and programs installed.
I hope you all solve this issue, because it just can not be that my HD2 has a good battery life, and your HD2 not
Kind Regards
EDIT @ 17:00 still 87%.
I am in a 3G 2100 only network (I don't have 2G functionality).
ROM: Artemis 3.0
Radio: 2.06.50.23_3
Customization: Seiya 6.5.5
I don't leave any automatic updates on, except for my e-mail account every 2 hrs.
I never close my connection.
The drainage overnight is -3% (8hrs).
The battery lasts at least 12 hrs of intense usage.
Normally I have to recharge every second day (e.g. I charged last night, I answered a few calls, I did some IM and browsing and I still have 73% left).
For a phone with a 1 GHz processor, a 4.3" screen and a tiny 1250 mAh battery I find the drainage is rather decent.
Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
maybe its also becouse some of us couldnt wait using the hd2 when they got it (like me) before it was fully charged for the first time
anyway my battery life has improved a little bit, i was at 74% this morning and did a lot of browsing, installing, tweaking and now its at 3%. it used to be much worse
I have battery consuming problem from time to time.I did everything:
installed new stock rom 1.66;
transfered all data which phone is using from card to phone memory(pictures,icons,sounds.etc...)
all updates are done manually;
Gprs connection is swiched off on the idle after one min;
One night it is loosing from 2 to 4%;
another from 30 to 40%
and it is eating memory from 10 to 15mb
I think that it is radio which is causing battery drainage so fast(to much communication wit a base stations,because when I am checking spb wireless monitor in the morning,there is no any data traffic.
I hope they can solve problem,because it is getting me mad and crazy
Try setting the screen brightness to 10-20% (on battery powered)
and dim backlight after 10 seconds (on batter powered).
It helps a lot, at least for me.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
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as far as i know, the battery has an integrated digital circuit (ic) which estimates the state-of-charge (soc). the procedure resets/calibrates the ic to obtain a more accurate estimation. since the radio rom is in charge with the power management (among other things), by changing it you decalibrate the "gauge".
i don't know if i've got the theory right but i tested this myself and it surely works.
Hi guys, please bear with us on this one.
This is my 2nd Android phone, I used to have an Hero about 6 months ago. i really liked the front end but the screen was small so I upgraded to an HD2 which I still have. On the HD2 the screen is huge but Win Mobile lets it down a bit. The marketplace is expensive and very limited and the amount of apps for Win Mobile seem to be getting less and less, especially supproting the 800x480 WVGA screen on the HD2.
Anyway I was due an upgrade and Orange offered me the X10 for £20 which i couldn't refuse. I am trying to like the phone but the biggest issue for me is the battery. I did the usual of leaving it plugged in for 16 hours as recommended by orange etc. If the phone is on standby I seem to get around 8 hours and the battery will be down to about 40% remaining charge. That is on standby with the top button pressed and the phone on a black screen. This is really poor considering the HD2 can run almost 2 days on standby before loosing 60% of its charge.
Anybody got any suggestions on how to improve this? Would it be wise for me to do the debrand as mentioned in other threads? It is currently on build R1FA014.
Thanks for the help.
The battery will improve in time, after a few weeks of use the X10 will loose 1-2% of battery each 2 hours (at least my X10 R1FA016 and two of my friends X10 R1FA014 do). This is with 3G on, wifi sometimes on, GPS sometimes on. Just give it some time. I think the X10 is one of the best smartphones out there. There is an extensive thread on Power Usage which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657265
In the end it comes down to:
-Give it some time
-Disable auto search for software updates (settings>about phone>update)
-Wifi seems to drain sometimes
-Streaming drains.
Thanks for the pointers Vin87, I have got wifi turned off now but I am at work for the next 7 hours and I only have about 28% charge remaining
I'm going to have a good read through the thread you mentioned all 50+ pages LOL.
I do like the phone and for the cost I am going to keep it and hopefully we will get some new updates soon?
It gets better...way better. 13 hours since my last charge, and it's at 71%. I've been using it every now and then, Facebook, sending emails ect.
Great battery life now!
From a work perspective, I miss the X10 having a dock.
With my G900 each time I returned to my desk,I would throw it the dock and so it was receiving a charge throughout the day, the X10 is more fiddly as you need to play around the the flap and then figure out which way to plug in the mini-USB cable...
I wish they had chosen a better connector than the mini-USB as the standard, as it's not that easy to quickly connect it....
I could almost throw my G900 at the charging cable and it would connect.
Basically (if you want to use the smartphone):
1. In the beginning you will use the phone a lot. Installing apps, trying apps, games, music etc. so the battery drains faster. When you will stop pushing the phone to the limit will be better
2. Wait for a week, the batter will get better.
3. Get a task killer/boot manager and set it to autokill moxier. Don't kill other apps
4. Set facebook/twitter sync at 1h (or more) if you are not a hardcore fan of this social platforms.
5. Email: if you need instant notification there is not much you can do. If you don't need it, disable background sync and sync manually.
6. Disable location using wireless networks.
7. Wifi/3G: if you need instant notifications, wifi will drain your battery pretty fast but if you don't have 3G data plan like me, there is no other choice. If you have a good 3G plan, you can set wifi sleep policy to turn off wifi when phone goes to "sleep". Also, you can use this together with Juice defender free to turn 3G on 2 min every 3min to get notifications so, you will save even more battery.
8. Enable bluetoot/gps only when you use them and keep them disabled when not.
9. Set brightness to manual and around 25% when you are indoor and "sleep time" (screen timeout) to 30sec
10. Oh, i forgot, disable search for software updates and if you didn't install too many things, try a factory defaults. Some people did a SD card format (be sure you save everything first) and reported battery improvement.
If you want to use the dumbphone inside then turn everything off (BT, GPS, 3G, WIFI, Twitter/Facebook, email, background sync, etc.) and your dumbphone will last way longer
I know that battery life has been a hot topic among EVO 4G users. I have seen both sides of the spectrum with some getting an entire day or more out of their phones, while some, like myself, see 5-7 hours at the most. I finally went to my local Sprint Store/Repair Center where I was told that my battery life was "normal" and that EVO users should "except to charge your phone two or three times a day". Then the rep handed me a spare battery at no charge to me and told me to have a nice day.
So, here's the deal. I am a non-rooted, non-anything user. Is the only way to see a 24 hour charge to root my phone and flash a custom ROM? He did mention that Froyo would "increase your battery life a lot". Whenever that's going to happen. Sorry to add another thread on battery life, but I want to make an informed decision, as well as know if this rep was just brushing me off with 5-7 hour being "normal" and then handing me an extra battery for free.
So you got a free battery and all it cost you was having to talk to a fool? Sounds good to me.
I routinely charge every other night with my moderate usage. 5-7 hours would only make sense if I was streaming Pandora all day with 1 bar.
5-7 hrs? are you constantly downloading things? heavy usage? or just on stand-by most of the time? if your using your phone casually, like 3-4 calls ~ 15-20 min each call and have emails coming in at about 2-3/hr and you surf the web about 1hr/day on your phone... 5-7 hrs is not very good... usually you would need to make calls that are 30+ min with heavy browser usage and be in a really ****ty signal area while playing games and texting every 5minutes for you to get such ****ty battery life... there are a lot of forums out there with tips/tricks in improving battery life so don't expect people to start posting them here as there are THOUSANDS of posts on battery life on androidcentral.com and other such sites...
good luck... you should be able to get at least 12hrs on one charge with little to moderate usage -- again google and read for forums out there as there is a TON of information.
I'm curious, are you in a 4G or 3G area? if you have 4G on where there is no 4G, your phone will constantly search for a 4G signal, same with wifi. I find that 3G is pretty fast where I live. 1.2MB down. so I never really turn on 4G or wifi. I've been getting about 14-20 hrs depending on use, but that was only the few times I made it through a day without plugging it in to add music, or try to root it (without success) and stuff. today I unplugged it at 9:40 am, and have been using it pretty heavy. about 15 minutes of streaming video, 45 minutes of music playback, 35 minutes of internet use, constant messaging, some pictures, google talk, fringe running, as well as qik in the background, actually all kind of apps pop up in the background. I am at 50% battery at 5:00 pm. I think that's not bad compared to the N1 I just sold. I will say that I think Advanced Task Killer, from the markets probably helps the battery life. I highly recommend it. make sure you set it up to auto kill apps in the background. I think I get a couple of extra hours this way.
Found on Android Central Forum: (and it works, I get about 15-18 hours)
CHARGING EVO BATTERY FOR MAXIMUM LIFE:
You can charge your battery the following way to see if that helps improve the battery life on your device.
1.Connect the phone to the charger and charge the device until the LED turned green with the phone powered ON
2.Disconnect the phone, and power it OFF.
3.Reconnect the phone to the charger, and charge the device until the LED turns green again.
4.Disconnect the phone, power it ON and then power it OFF.
5.Reconnect the phone to the charger and charge until the LED turns green again.
6.Power ON and use.
My battery appears to have the same issue as well. My backlight is at 8%, auto sync is disabled for all services, always on mobile data is disabled, my network is set to CDMA, I'm not overclocked at all. I've done all the other battery saving tricks and I've done all the battery charging tricks.
I played Raging Thunder 2 for less than half an hour this afternoon, and my battery dropped down to 58%. I'm aware that games are pretty intensive, but isn't this a bit much?
EVOKeith said:
I know that battery life has been a hot topic among EVO 4G users. I have seen both sides of the spectrum with some getting an entire day or more out of their phones, while some, like myself, see 5-7 hours at the most. I finally went to my local Sprint Store/Repair Center where I was told that my battery life was "normal" and that EVO users should "except to charge your phone two or three times a day". Then the rep handed me a spare battery at no charge to me and told me to have a nice day.
So, here's the deal. I am a non-rooted, non-anything user. Is the only way to see a 24 hour charge to root my phone and flash a custom ROM? He did mention that Froyo would "increase your battery life a lot". Whenever that's going to happen. Sorry to add another thread on battery life, but I want to make an informed decision, as well as know if this rep was just brushing me off with 5-7 hour being "normal" and then handing me an extra battery for free.
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Holy ****!
I'm not a "heavy user" and I turn off all sync and radios until I need them. In this state the phone will still recieve phone calls and text msgs. I turn on either wifi or mobile network access when I want to surf and enable bluetooth when I drive to connect to hand free in the car. I turn everything off when I'm done using each. I have all the power widgets right on my home screen so it only takes a second to turn on/off as needed. Using this way I have gone over 3 days before charging several times. I know this doesn't work for everyone, but I'd rather decide when I'm going to use my phone for what than to be at the beck and call of my phone. YMMV
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I'm not a "heavy user" and I turn off all sync and radios until I need them. In this state the phone will still recieve phone calls and text msgs. I turn on either wifi or mobile network access when I want to surf and enable bluetooth when I drive to connect to hand free in the car. I turn everything off when I'm done using each. I have all the power widgets right on my home screen so it only takes a second to turn on/off as needed. Using this way I have gone over 3 days before charging several times. I know this doesn't work for everyone, but I'd rather decide when I'm going to use my phone for what than to be at the beck and call of my phone. YMMV
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Why don't you just use it normally and charge each night?
Just lazy.
Yeah, I've done all the tips and tricks and charge with power on the power off and charge, wash, rinse, repeat. Nothing works. I'm curious to see if the "free" battery they gave me will last longer.
I was in the same boat as you.
I have a fix and it should work.
turn on always on mobile data and enable auto sync
I posted a thread about getting rediculous battery and someone told me to do that and it worked.
go to settings all the way to the bottom to about phone Ans then choose battery. I bet ur up time and away time are the same. if they are that means something is keeping your phone on even tho the screen is off. doing what I told you above with a restart should fix the problem. also when you restart it its not going to instantly go to sleep leave your phone for like an hour and then check the up and awake time and it should be different. hope that helps.
and enable data when roaming.
Without specifics about what you have the phone doing and what kind of signal you have at home/work/etc, this is a totally irrelevant discussion. In my experience, the only thing that actually kills the battery quickly on the Evo or any other phone is poor cell signal.
I get well over a day on my evo... Running the netarchy kernel along with setcpu profiles. I have my phone set to clock to a max of about 384mhz when the phone screen is off.
I did the battery recharge trick and it helped a lot. I also have my display timeout set to 30 seconds.
5-7 hours before i rooted i would get 10-12 easy since rooting and loaded the.bakedsnackes rom i get avg 19 hours
sent with my evo from a secret place
Dump the Mail app and use Gmail to pop your accounts
If you are using the MAIL app that comes with the OS, that is likely the culprit. Especially if you are syncing more that one account. That can kill the battery very fast.
**try using the gmail app, and set it up so that it pops your pop mail accounts for you and pushes them to your phone. Then disable the built-in mail app and never use it again. This alone should double your battery life. It worked on the Hero and it works in the Evo.**
Do you by any chance use Yelp? I did an experiment last week with Yelp. Without the Yelp service running in the background, I would lose less than 8% of my battery overnight. With the Yelp service in the background, I lost about 50%. I've emailed Yelp to see if they can disable the Yelp service if I don't login to my Yelp account through the app.
Putting my phone on wifi made it so in the morning (4 hrs of low signal then to 50% battery), I put ti on the school's wifi and it was 80%.
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Found on Android Central Forum: (and it works, I get about 15-18 hours)
CHARGING EVO BATTERY FOR MAXIMUM LIFE:
You can charge your battery the following way to see if that helps improve the battery life on your device.
1.Connect the phone to the charger and charge the device until the LED turned green with the phone powered ON
2.Disconnect the phone, and power it OFF.
3.Reconnect the phone to the charger, and charge the device until the LED turns green again.
4.Disconnect the phone, power it ON and then power it OFF.
5.Reconnect the phone to the charger and charge until the LED turns green again.
6.Power ON and use.
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I would avoid doing this. Lithium-Ion Batteries (found in the Evo and almost all other phones and laptops) can only go through a certain number of charge cycles. This method will not help prolong battery life.