Kinda new to the Wizard.. Little help? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Im a blackberry guy (not a fanboy, I just own one) but I just recently got a broken MDA from a friend of mine. I have not had a chance to turn it on to see how well it works (battery is dead and no charger), but, there is a crack on the screen. My friend says it will turn on (dont know what it looks like; again), but it wont align. I dont know if she means it works fine OTHER then that, or if the crack is visable , or if the LCD is trashed looking or what, but onto my point.
On the back it says Wiza200. Does this mean its a MDA 2? Im lost when it comes to identifying this MDA. Its the T-mobile version (unless thats obvious, once again, im new, give me a break) and what Im looking to do worst case scenario is replace the LCD. I already found the guide how to take it apart and reassemble, but im still shopping for a LCD. Can someone point me in the direction of cheap replacements?

you can get a good oem replacement screen and digitiser (touch screen thingy bit) from ebay quiet cheep but you need to know which generation of wizard it is as they have different cables.
or you can send it to one of the various companies on the internet (like i have) for a screen to be fit for like £65 gbp.

How do I check which generation I have? Or is that unknown til I see the back of the LCD screen?

that you can tell kinds by the colour of the ribbon cable.
If i remember -if its yellowy/orange ribon then its a gen2 screen other then gen 1.
you should just be able to make out the cable colour when you slide the keyboard out and look between the gap from front screen to keyboard.
someone correct me if im wrong.

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wanted htc wizard main board

I broke the screen on mda and purchased a replacement but I think i fried my main board during the installation of the lcd. Is anyone selling a mainboard for the wizard or know where I can find a mainboard? I have checked on ebay and have found broken phones with bad usb connectors or headphone jacks. I don't need that. If anyone is selling a mainboard for the wizard as well as the housing, as long as its in good condition, please let me know. Thanks --> Mistawright
Are you sure it's dead??
mistawright said:
I broke the screen on mda and purchased a replacement but I think i fried my main board during the installation of the lcd. Is anyone selling a mainboard for the wizard or know where I can find a mainboard? I have checked on ebay and have found broken phones with bad usb connectors or headphone jacks. I don't need that. If anyone is selling a mainboard for the wizard as well as the housing, as long as its in good condition, please let me know. Thanks --> Mistawright
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I've just received a new screen for mine from HK. When I first put it in all I could get was a white screen, nothing else.
After ages of stripping down etc I found that it was the screen connector causing the grief - tape it down with some electrical tape and away it went.
Got versed in the art of connecting the screen to the main board and holding the battery in place at each stage of the re-construction to ensure it was still working.
I dropped mine and had vertical lines on the right side of the screen. Now, with the new screen in, initially it was fine but has just started wavering a little on the right side, so I may have had more than just a screen issue. Still as long as it lasts until my Kaiser arrives from T-Mo I'll be happy.
So are you selling a mainboard or not? If you are not what was the point of your post?
mistawright said:
So are you selling a mainboard or not? If you are not what was the point of your post?
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The point was in the subject of the reply: ARE YOU SURE IT'S DEAD?
I offered help based on my experience changing the screen and questioning wether your mainboard was really dead or not.
But if you don't anybody offering advice and only want to buy another mainboard without really checking if yours is dead or not then I'll shut up.
lets start from the beginning.
1) I broke the screen.
2) the phone would power on but cracked screen.
3) I bought a replacement
4) after taking the phone apartment and replacing screen phone does not power on
5) Amber light does not come on on phone when connected to charger.
Instead of suggestions like the topic of the thread says I'm looking to purchase a working mainboard or a phone with a cracked screen that works at a decent price.
Hi,
Did you follow any replacement doc to do the job? Or you just started alone? I asked you cause I got a LCD for my friend and together we replaced it without any problems. Everything is working fine! Remember that exist many pitty hardware parts during the process you should care about it. If you missed or have broken one of them, you'll probably fried the main board or similar component!
mistawright said:
lets start from the beginning.
1) I broke the screen.
2) the phone would power on but cracked screen.
3) I bought a replacement
4) after taking the phone apartment and replacing screen phone does not power on
5) Amber light does not come on on phone when connected to charger.
Instead of suggestions like the topic of the thread says I'm looking to purchase a working mainboard or a phone with a cracked screen that works at a decent price.
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Dissasembling the HTC 8125 (Cingular version in preticular if it matters)

First, I would like to say ello!!!
Anyway ^.^ I recently aquired a Cingular branded HTC 8125, and was wondering if anyone had a good disassembly guide(or even a bad one really) for it. The one I got has a few.... bugs. Some of which I should be able to fix... Some of which... Well ^.^'
Actually isnt the first PDA type device I've opened up... I even have the nessary tools within reach atm ^.^'' Just always nicer to know where the delicate ribon cables, or randomly held together by plastic tabs/glue spots are when going into something like this...
Anyway. Oi!
check out the service manual available from the wiki it gots the disassembaly guide its preety straight forward nothing hard to it just make sure u dont lose the screws and dont break the tabs.
Thanks, didn't notice it there.
Just a note that should probably go up somewhere, the Cingular 8125 has a slight variance to its disassembly when you get to removing the main PCB, it has a sqrew holding it down near the middle of the board that the version of the wizard that document was for lacks.
Other than that very educational. And got rid of the horrible screen corruption when the face plate buttons are pressed. Completely. ^.^' Stupid loose ribbon cables.

Digitizer replacement?

The warranty for my HD is gone and I would probably need to change the touch screen digitizer myself, found these on ebay for ~60€, but does anyone know how to change them? Again, any help would be appreciated!
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HTC Touch HD, it has been a wonderful phone until now. I have encountered a wierd problem with the touchscreen.
First the touchscreen stopped working completely, after awhile it suddenly started working, at first it recognized some bits and pieces but now it recognizes every touch as normal, except..
It is very inaccurate and the "sum of inaccurity" seems to change depending on where I push the screen, the screen alignment option in settings does not fix this.
I recorded two videos to show this problem better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd1vjiHr2QU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TynTTFIQJv8
Any help would be appreciated on how to fix this!
looks broken id return under warrenty did it get any knocks / drops? do you have insurance?~
spzero said:
looks broken id return under warrenty did it get any knocks / drops? do you have insurance?~
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I have handled it with great care so no big knocks or drops. Ill contact the store about the warranty. Just wondered if theres a way how to simply fix this.
Just noticed, the screen works normally sometimes for one touch, then it goes back to the inaccurate **** :/
Im now guessing that some cable could be loose or something like that?
Have u tried recalibrating the screen? I can't remember exactly where I found it, but its in programs or settings somewhere.
Viba said:
...the screen alignment option in settings does not fix this...
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Yes I have..
Anyway I RMA'd it now. Hope I get a new one
I can tell you from previous experience, HTC does NOT warranty touch screens. You mentioned "a store", so I hope they help you, because HTC will not. >sigh<
Seems a little unfair if they don't seeing as the HD is purely touch screen!
SomethingWicked said:
I can tell you from previous experience, HTC does NOT warranty touch screens. You mentioned "a store", so I hope they help you, because HTC will not. >sigh<
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Hmmh, well the store probably sends it to some service center here in Finland that fixes HTC phones.
Indeed sounds very stupid if the warranty doesnt cover the touchscreen.
Perhaps my HD suffered from something else than a broken touchscreen, eg. mainboard or a chip that controls the touch screen. Who knows I'm just hoping it "passes" the warranty :|
Well... Had Hard-SPL on my touch hd and duttys 1.7 rom, so the warranty is gone
Didn't know they were so picky about it, they said it would cost 605€ to repair the screen. So now I should probably start looking for a screen digitizer on ebay and some help on how to change it... Already downloaded the service manual, but there was nothing on how to change the digitizer, could anyone here show me some light to this? Thanks.
I have dismantle my HD to see if there's any way to change only the screen (it's broken)
There's no way, as far as I saw. You have to replace LCD, tourch screen and screen. It's one piece and there's no way easy way to open it without break it.
You can find all of them for about 200E.
drabisan said:
I have dismantle my HD to see if there's any way to change only the screen (it's broken)
There's no way, as far as I saw. You have to replace LCD, tourch screen and screen. It's one piece and there's no way easy way to open it without break it.
You can find all of them for about 200E.
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So there's no way I could replace only this?
http://global.ebay.com/Original_Digitizer_Touch_Screen_For_HTC_Touch_HD/310124432320/item
Another sad story // hopefully with a good ending
I kinda have the same problem as Viba and others. Sorry for the looong post. But decided to describe in more details my experience up to now, and hope you can help as well.
All of a sudden, I started having problems with the touch screen of the Touch HD. I started noticing that whenever I touched the Touchflo buttons, the phone vibrated. Soon I came to realize the if I touched in some spot, the phone recognized that I was touching lower, to the point that it could not recognize touches in the taskbar, for instance.
The united has 2 or 3 months max. It had some falls before and I do not really know who (or which one) was the culprit.
Tried this as fix: re-alignment, hardresets, Official ROM upgrade. Then I started reading and understanding that the problem was probably the digitizer ("nice to meet you").
I live in Brazil and the Touch HD is not expected be released here any time soon. So the few HTC service centers do not know how to fix it and do not have parts for it. And also, I bought mine from an auction site by some user who bought it abroad, with no warranty whatsoever. I am left alone in this.
I was very frustrated and eager to get my device running again. So I started looking for a new digitizer and also the tools to open my phone. The digitizer (just the digitizer, not the LCD screen) I ordered from an ebay shop in Hong Kong on Monday and is expected to still arrive sometime in this century (IF Brazilian port authorities do not mess up). The tools arrived yesterday.
I downloaded the service manual and said to myself, let's see if the digitizer problem is maybe due to a loose flat cable. Got to work and carefully disassembled the device as per the service manual. (I have to say that, although I try to be carefull, I always scratch, bend or mess something up when I do jobs like these. So I was afraid of cracking some plastic or worse and actually did some.)
Up to where the service manual show, it went incredibly very well. But that's the problem. The service manual guides you to disassemble the unit up to the point where you are with the bezel, LCD and digitizer in one piece.
But hey! I saw zillions of internet shops selling the bezel (actually, the hole housing, but with no LCD), the digitizer or other parts separately! What is going on?
So I started trying to unmount the bezel, LCD and digitizer. Tried several things. It got really late. I was impactient. So I tried splitting the digitizer from the LCD, by inserting a hard plastic aluminium tip between the digitizer and the housing. A very thin plastic kind of tape came out (at lest part of it). So I tried doing it more. No success. And then I put a very thin screwdriver between then (just enough to get an ulgy bent it the plastic housing).
When I had played enough with that puzzle, I gave up and began mounting everything back. The good part is that I was able to get everything back and the phone is working. Well, except for the digitizer.
First thing I did was to kidnap the wife's Nokia E71 I bought her last month and she is not using yet (she couldn't learn to use yet; well, she hasn't even tried it), because I have to have mobile access to my emails.
And I really started now to consider other alternatives. Will some user like me EVER be able to change just the digitizer? Is it even possible? If it is, I would like to give it at least another shot.
But I am also afraid that it could be another part which is in failure. I just don't want to spend more $$$$ in this. It would be better to buy another phone (and maybe not a complete touchscreen - gosh, I miss my Tytn II). I so regret being a gadget freak and not waiting a release in my country.
Shoud I send my phone abroad for a service center repair? My sister lives in Dubai and she may be able to help.
Should I give up my unit and seel the used parts in ebay?
Hope to hear your suggestions. Thanks anyway.
Viba said:
Well... Had Hard-SPL on my touch hd and duttys 1.7 rom, so the warranty is gone
Didn't know they were so picky about it, they said it would cost 605€ to repair the screen. So now I should probably start looking for a screen digitizer on ebay and some help on how to change it... Already downloaded the service manual, but there was nothing on how to change the digitizer, could anyone here show me some light to this? Thanks.
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before doing this what about removing hspl and reflashing back a stock rom
change shop and you might, and i say MIGHT, be lucky
much better than screwing up the machine
Rafael K said:
I kinda have the same problem as Viba and others. Sorry for the looong post. But decided to describe in more details my experience up to now, and hope you can help as well...
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Nice to know I'm not alone with this problem
Sucks that the digitizer couldn't be removed separately, would help alot if someone knew how to do this, if even possible..
crashDebug said:
before doing this what about removing hspl and reflashing back a stock rom
change shop and you might, and i say MIGHT, be lucky
much better than screwing up the machine
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I have already tried with 3 custom roms and 2 original SPL:s with two original roms.
The Finnish law allows me to get my HD replaced if I could prove that the custom rom didn't brake the digitizer. Already sent some emails to the local repairstation for HTC phones here in Finland, lets see...
I run a repair center (US). I have not gotten curious enough to take mine apart, but if someone has a dead one to experiment with, PM me.
Broken digitizer glass
I have the same problem with the digitizer glass being broken. I have had the back off the phone and stripped it back as far as I dare, but the service manual just doesn't tell you how to replace the digitizer and glass only. Checked out youtube where there are many videos with instructions on how to replace the screens and digitizers on lots of different phones as well as the iphone, just nothing on the Blackstone yet.
Any one else found a solution or decent instructions?
Today I disassembled my HD too, found a loose screen wire but nothing else. Even when I attached it properly the screen didn't work.
Has anyone found out how to change the digitizer?
some info
Hello,
I am also have HTC Touch HD, and I am also thinking about replacement of touch screen and housing because of scratches. Here instruction in Russian
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-hd/
step 24 is not shown on the picture, but there is mentioned that in order to replace screen you should push it forward from back side of the screen; also mentioned that screen is fixed with double sided tape (probably it is fixed to the touch screen)
Also, did you try to use any polish to remove minor scratches on the touch screen? HTC Touch HS has resistive screen and probably may be polished (in contrast to capacitive touch screen that has some coating).
All the best
Also, about this problem see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3911326
You guys should be smarter! If you want to warranty exchange it, flash the normal SPL again and flash a stock rom!

Just fixed my Digitizer

I have just got my replacement digitizer in the mail 2day from Hong Kong and installed it just now, all is working perfectly as new again. I did a hard reset when the touch screen was first playing up, so I have lost all my themes, settings etc but luckily my office docs etc are still intact.
Anyhow, I made a video on how to replace the touch screen, its only quick as I did not go from the disasembly part, as there is already videos and tutorials on this, so I just documented on the actual digitizer replacement, which is actually basic 2-5mins work, but I thought a vid would be good for any noobs needing it in the future.
Once I edit it all up I will post the video here.
If anyone needs help on replacing the digitizer just ask. DON'T be tricked into buying the LCD + Digitizer if you only need the touch screen, as it is very easy to do without the lcd, though some ppl disagree.
Thanks for reading, thread will be updatd with Vid asap.
Hi X86
I have a crack on the upper plastic case, thats prob. why I have dirt showing on screen. In your opinion where is it located and can I clean it ?
It seems as if (if the crack is on the actual original housing, not just a add-on case) that dirt/dust has fallen down inbetween the digitizer and the LCD, so you can see it through the touchscreen right?
This is fairly simple to fix, you will either need to patch up the crack with silicone or something (best from the inside so it does'nt look messy) OR buy yourself a whole nw housing which cost about US15-$20.
Then just pull your elf/in apart and use cotton tips and wipes to thoroughly clean the LCD and insides.
If you need any help, just let me know via PM or here.
?Good Luck!
Thanks
That was my feeling, now I just need courage to take apart the casing (either repair or replace )
Thanks for bringing up this issue in the forum and extending your hand to others.
I appreciate it alot.
Hi x86
I have read the sticky for disassembling the elf. Can you tell me if it's necessary to unscrew anything and remove the rear speaker in order to remove the front panel ?
Edit: I think I found the answer in the next pics, the 4 screws attach to the front panel, right ?
Hi, i've just entered the world of winmo. i've recently wrecked my Elfin. But i can't seem to figured it out whether it's the LCD or the digitizer is broken...
1) my Elfin's screen turns to white with a few red and black stripes on the lower left corner, it doesn't react to any touch gesture.
2) i can still activesync the device and seems that my SD card is still working, i could copy out my PIMcontacts...thank goodness
3) the alarm still rings the next morning, i assume my device is still operating, of course now i've taken out the battery.
4) i've ask the phone shop for repair enquiries and they said that the replacement parts are not for retail selling in my country, Malaysia... so it needs to send back my Elfin to OEM and takes about 3 weeks time and cost around USD $ 130 bucks....
5) my friends told me it wasn't worth it, thus i was thinking of looking for help online and finally i found this thread...
6) can anyone offer few pieces of info? i thank you 1st.
bjonmy said:
Hi, i've just entered the world of winmo. i've recently wrecked my Elfin. But i can't seem to figured it out whether it's the LCD or the digitizer is broken...
1) my Elfin's screen turns to white with a few red and black stripes on the lower left corner, it doesn't react to any touch gesture.
2) i can still activesync the device and seems that my SD card is still working, i could copy out my PIMcontacts...thank goodness
3) the alarm still rings the next morning, i assume my device is still operating, of course now i've taken out the battery.
4) i've ask the phone shop for repair enquiries and they said that the replacement parts are not for retail selling in my country, Malaysia... so it needs to send back my Elfin to OEM and takes about 3 weeks time and cost around USD $ 130 bucks....
5) my friends told me it wasn't worth it, thus i was thinking of looking for help online and finally i found this thread...
6) can anyone offer few pieces of info? i thank you 1st.
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That sounds like both a Digitizer and LCD issue.
Red and white strips is caused by the screen, while the phone not sensing your fingers is caused by digitizer.
But you still managed to use something like mymobiler to rescue your stuff right?
Yeah, you're in Malaysia right? In Singapore, to get this items, we have to get it off ebay or dealextreme.com.
But be careful with this, it void warrenty.
If you send it to HTC service centre, it may cost $160> Singapore dollars.
Cheers,
Jeremy

Looking for a broken Universal

Anybody have a broken HTC uni?? I need the part that connects the mainboard to the screen, my son got a hold of mine XDA EXEC version and kept turning the screen around and around.
Anyways I took it all apart and found the faulty part so I'm looking for one the possibly got wet, broken screen, broken ports, broken keyboard etc...
Or possibly if anyone knows of a place where I can find the parts...
Welcome to forums
Ask a Mod to move your thread to marketplace so you´ll get better chances
Good luck,
I've got one if you wanna buy my. Got one where the screen is blank and the other where my usb port is gone.
bark4mark said:
Anybody have a broken HTC uni?? I need the part that connects the mainboard to the screen, my son got a hold of mine XDA EXEC version and kept turning the screen around and around.
Anyways I took it all apart and found the faulty part so I'm looking for one the possibly got wet, broken screen, broken ports, broken keyboard etc...
Or possibly if anyone knows of a place where I can find the parts...
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You can just get the part off eBay, it's something like $25-$30.
I had a similar need: I had to buy a broken screen Universal, to take the motherboard out and fix my device (problems with bootloader...)
I got a screen damaged Uni from ebay with 16 pounds, and when I got it I saw the screen ok, and only had to push the connector inside a little harder and all was good. So I got a fully functional Universal device for 16GBP. My advice is you try Ebay.

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