Preferred / Default Wifi Network - P3600 General

I have a strange problem with my HTC Trinity's WiFi. It connects to my home network ok, but after stand-by mode, when I press the power on button, it just keeps discovering other WiFi networks but does not connect to my preferred (home) network automatically.
If I click Start / Settings / Connections / WiFi, or go straight to comms manager then select the network and click connect, it connects ok to the network and stays connected until next stand-by, when the problem repeats. It is driving me crackers having to manually select my home wifi network everytime. I've searched the net and these (and other) forums for an answer without any luck.
I have the Orange SPV variant with WM5.
Please help.

88 views so far and not a single comment. Please someone tell me i'm not the only one experiencing this problem, otherwise i'll think i'm going mad!
All I want is for the device to remember the last wifi connection it had before going into standby, and connect to it. Telling me how many of my neighbors have security enabled connections doesn't help me.
On my knees in frustration begging a response.
MSG

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just need some help with 3 problems with the o2 exec

hello all,
problem 1:
recently my exec has been dropping calls just as they connect. signal seems to jump up and down quite frequently and i'm not receiving some messages from abroad and some messages sent abroad don't make it to the receiver either.
that last issue may be a network issue as it seems to only happen randomly but is getting worse.
would a hard reset help much or is something else wrong here?
any insight would be much appreciated.
problem 2:
i want to disable or remove the voice command application that comes built in the exec (cybertronics?), i don't use it but it locks up the phone on odd occasions.
anyway to remove it without some extensive tinkering.
problem 3:
i remember a friend used to be able to connect his ipaq to his pc then run msn messenger on the ipaq (whilst cradled). is this possible with the exec as it doesn't seem to get a good wifi signal unless i'm right next to the wifi router.
i would have had a 4th problem but i just got AS working finally and jeyo mobile companion to go with it Very Happy
again, any help with any of these problems would be much appreciated.
regards,
haji.
having the same problem with signal. If i was in a location with no signal and i move to a location with good signal, the phone does not seem to detect this change. I have to reset the phone for it to get signal. so disapointed.... just sharing, sorry, ive got no solution.
For problem 3:
If you right click on ActiveSync icon in your system tray (version 4.2 not sure where the option i is on older versions) and choose "Connection Settings..." then there is an option which says:
"This computer is connected to:" and my copy was defaulted to "My work network", changing this to "The Internet" allows me to browse the internet using my computers internet on my XDA Exec.
I think this is what your friend would have been doing.
Regards
G
thanks gquipster! i'll try that out.
raffy, i've switched the phone over from 'auto' to gsm, that seems to have improved signals and i don't lose txts anymore. when set to auto it keeps trying to find the best 3g connection (i think).
if you don't need the 3g connection then try this:
start > settings > phone > band tab > change network type box from 'auto' to 'gsm'
i hope that helps a bit mate.
still got problem 2 to go then, any takers?

Help with wifi not working

I have done hard reset and soft resets and still my wifi is not connecting.
Finally my EDGE is working great but wifi not. Whenever I try to connect my SSID is set to "EMC Wireless Internal" channel 11. I have no idea where this cam from but I can not get rid of it. I have a new FIOS Actiontec router with wireless enabled to my network name, channel 10. And Hitchhiker tries to connect but it keeps getting bumped off.
I have gone into MediaNet and turned off the proxy and checked for it to go onto the internet on Cingular GPRS.
I have not had a problem connecting before on wifi. I wonder if the router is a problem here, or if my phone settings are screwed up.
And ideas?
Thanks
The WiFi - EDGE contengency
*The Bad News*
By default, if EDGE/GPRS is configured to work, WiFi is rendered useless.
You didnt mention what carrier you have. I have Cingular and they even state on there website that If you configure the Edge/GRPS to connect, then WiFi may not work.
*The Good news*
I have my 8125 working with both Edge and WiFi. Heres what I did:
1. Open Connnections and click on the 'ADVANCED' tab.
2. Click on 'SELECT NETWORKS'.
3. The top pull down should be set to 'MY ISP' or, if you have named your WiFi connection something different, select it here.
4. Click 'EDIT' under this pull down and set connection to 'AUTO PICK'. 'OK' back to Network Management screen.
5. The bottom pull down should be set to 'MEDIA NE'T.
6. Click on 'EDIT' under this pull down. This is where you will set up EDGE using your carrier's settings.
7. 'OK' your way back out. Your done.
These settings let WiFi try to connect first. If no WiFi is available then EDGE/GPRS is used.
Good Luck!
Thank you! Worked for me, but videos streamed from orb still aren't working
Wierd-Fi
I also have WiFi problems after installing HTC official upgrade
ROM 2.25.11.1 WWE
Date 5/11/06
Radio 02.25.11
Protocol 4.1.13.12
ExtROM 2.25.11.102
Everything is great except after successful connection to home WiFi it disconnects after maybe 5 to 15 seconds ... network becomes "unavailable" .. no error message. This happens even when not connected to CIngular EDGE/GPRS (flight mode ON then, individually enable WiFi ON for what that's worth). When I delete my home network WiFi entry to force a re-recognition and setup, it recognizes the wireless net just fine (again) but same behavior.
All my settings are already set as suggested by ralugniC8125 in this thread. I had not tried any of the other ROMs with added features/hacks/fixes found on this website ... would any of them behave differently, you think? PHone was bought from Cingular .. I have not done any unlock procedure (don't really need to from a service standpoint but will if necessary to make a new ROM work right).
Any thoughts appreciated...
tskelton said:
Everything is great except after successful connection to home WiFi it disconnects after maybe 5 to 15 seconds ... network becomes "unavailable" .. no error message.
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I have just purchased an unlocked Tilt from eBay. I have been scanning the wiki for days now, along with other sources, and to no avail. I still cannot get my WiFi to work properly. If any one has had this issue and has found a solution, I would love to know it!
ok, here's a suggestion since none of you have mentioned it.
Diable the MAC (Media Access Control) Binding on the router. This should help.
Maybe yall can help me now I have it attempting to connect however it only connects to gprs and it even shows it has a great wifi signal
Still Wifi-less and Woeful
lobotomy said:
Diable the MAC (Media Access Control) Binding on the router. This should help.
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Thanks for the suggestion. This did not help unfortunately. I should mention that I have tried to access several different types of routers... with and without security, and while they are showing up as being available, they will not stay connected for more than a second or two.
Any other possibilities?

How do you force WiFi connection ?

Reflashed my Jade from UK Orange to JADEMAN rom recently...
I don't think this is a ROm related problem (unless you know otherwise !) so I have posted in general part of forum.
Can anyone tell me how to force the phone to use Wifi to connect to the internet.
It connects via GPRS fine but i want to disable the GPRS DATA for travels abroad so I don't run up a huge data bill. I can stop the data with "NoData" app, but if I now try to connect to internet with Opera or Internet explorer if fails..
Is there something I am missing, to tell it either to connect via wifi before using GPRS data or to only connect via wifi. Do I need to create a connection ?
The create new connection page doesn't list using WiFi, bluetooth is the only "WIRELESS" type connection that appears to be offered.
Also when the wireless AP list is shown and I try to connect to an AP showing available that I have previously setup with WEP key etc, it fails to connect.
I am sure to be missing something but I can't spot what the problem is...
Any help appreciated.....
Phil
Normally Windows Mobile connects via WiFi first, if available, and only when not present it uses GPRS. That means that you do not need to disable GPRS if an WiFi-connection is established.
I have no personal experiences with "NoData". Perhaps someone else can help.
phil-w said:
Can anyone tell me how to force the phone to use Wifi to connect to the internet.
It connects via GPRS fine but i want to disable the GPRS DATA for travels abroad so I don't run up a huge data bill. I can stop the data with "NoData" app, but if I now try to connect to internet with Opera or Internet explorer if fails..
Is there something I am missing, to tell it either to connect via wifi before using GPRS data or to only connect via wifi. Do I need to create a connection ?
The create new connection page doesn't list using WiFi, bluetooth is the only "WIRELESS" type connection that appears to be offered.
Also when the wireless AP list is shown and I try to connect to an AP showing available that I have previously setup with WEP key etc, it fails to connect.
Any help appreciated.....
Phil
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MvBoe said:
Normally Windows Mobile connects via WiFi first, if available, and only when not present it uses GPRS. That means that you do not need to disable GPRS if an WiFi-connection is established.
I have no personal experiences with "NoData". Perhaps someone else can help.
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AFAIK the moment you invoke any app that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc) That's how it works on my set. Unless you invoke Wi-Fi connection first, then data connection is ignored.
I have had a bad experience that even if all setups are ok Wi-Fi conn thru Ap fails.
Corrected such a way;
Under 'Wireless /Lan' settings
Power mode should be brought to 'best performance'
azahidi said:
AFAIK the moment you invoke any app that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc) That's how it works on my set. Unless you invoke Wi-Fi connection first, then data connection is ignored.
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That's what I meant: You have to activate WiFi by yourself to prevent jade using GPRS (etc.). Your description is more precise, I did not make it clear enough. Thanks for correction.
Hi and thanks for replies so far...
I have just done a hard reset to make sure I haven't loaded anything that may mess up the wifi connection... Even when wifi is on and I am connected to a wifi access point OK it still uses gprs/3g not wifi..
Back to the "drawing board" I think...
Any more ideas please...
Phil-w
with this app you can disable or enable data connections as you please.
there is another app here in the xda that will disable data when roming automatically, but i don't remember the name.
faria said:
with this app you can disable or enable data connections as you please.
there is another app here in the xda that will disable data when roming automatically, but i don't remember the name.
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Hi faria
Unfortunately I find it better to go into connection manager, select airplane mode, then enable wifi. Then do any surfing, live messenger etc. Then once finished go back into connection manager, re-enable phone.
Like others, I'm on Orange, wifi no longer stays the internet source even if it is connected. I have it on all the time, but if I use the internet, I have to go through the above procedure or it costs me credit through Orange.
Janeway
janeway said:
Unfortunately I find it better to go into connection manager, select airplane mode, then enable wifi. Then do any surfing, live messenger etc. Then once finished go back into connection manager, re-enable phone.
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The only disadvantage is here is that, you'll miss calls when there are incoming calls because your phone is inactive (while PDA is). You can just disable data connection (CommManager - Data Connection - off) and leave wi-fi connected.
Like others, I'm on Orange, wifi no longer stays the internet source even if it is connected. I have it on all the time, but if I use the internet, I have to go through the above procedure or it costs me credit through Orange.
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Just wondering.. how you identify which connection is being used, wi-fi or 3G/GPRS when both are connected.
What if you disconnect data connection (3G/GPRS) without activating the airplane mode, can you surf using wi-fi connection.
One possible reason - set connected to the AP via wi-fi but AP is not connected to internet, thus set seeks 3G as another route to internet.
Hi azahidi, thanks for taking time to reply to me . Your points as follows:
Yes, missing calls is the disadvantage, but I use my pda more for data and hardly any calls, so not so important for me, but obviously we be much better if that were possible as I do sometimes forget to swich back. If I disable the data connection, it automatically re-initializes itself as soon as ANY data is being transmitted - even with just wifi active - except when it is in airplane mode. This is a new thing for me with the Jade, didn't have that problem before with my previous HTC phone.
There is an icon for the 3G - when its in use it shows it - it goes from being a large G in a square to a smaller one with signal bars.
Wifi is definitely connected, I surf online with it all the time.
Its like 3G has priority over wifi - there should be a way to change that.
Hope the above makes sense.
Janeway
I'ven been using 'Nodata' succesfull the last past months, it does it's job well, but i'm not on Orange as you are, that might be the difference.
Just to be sure i've also changed my settings:
start > settings > connections > connections > advanced > select network > My work network (twice).
and
start > settings > connections >advanced network > uncheck HSDPA and in SMS choose 'GSM'
(all is translated from Dutch, hope i used the right words)
Thanks Nirak.
One of my settings was wrong - I should have known that from last time, but my brain's elsewhere at the moment!
Must have upset it when I flashed
Cheers for now.
phil-w said:
Hi and thanks for replies so far...
I have just done a hard reset to make sure I haven't loaded anything that may mess up the wifi connection... Even when wifi is on and I am connected to a wifi access point OK it still uses gprs/3g not wifi..
Back to the "drawing board" I think...
Any more ideas please...
Phil-w
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Phil, can't you simply switch the "Data Connection" on/off switch to 'off' ?
I have it in the Comm Manager right at the bottom. The Wi-Fi and Phone could be left 'on'. I can't try if it works because I only use the phone on 2G.
Joe
jfranek said:
Phil, can't you simply switch the "Data Connection" on/off switch to 'off' ? I have it in the Comm Manager right at the bottom. The Wi-Fi and Phone could be left 'on'. Joe
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That's how it should work actually. Either one, Wi-Fi or 3g/GPRS. But what phil is saying is that it also activates data connection (3G/GPRS) even when wi-fi is connected.
On my set, and in my network (not Orange but standard GSM).. this is how it works :
The moment I invoke any application that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera, etc) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc). Unless if I invoke Wi-Fi connection on first, then data connection is ignored, it will stay off.
So what I normally do is, whenever I want to use internet, I connect using wi-fi then browse the internet. If there is no available AP, then I turn off wi-fi and continue browsing , which is then connected using 3G/GPRS/EDGE?HSDPA
azahidi said:
(...) The moment I invoke any application that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera, etc) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc). Unless if I invoke Wi-Fi connection on first, then data connection is ignored, it will stay off.
So what I normally do is, whenever I want to use internet, I connect using wi-fi then browse the internet. If there is no available AP, then I turn off wi-fi and continue browsing , which is then connected using 3G/GPRS/EDGE?HSDPA
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This is the way it normally works and should work under WindowsMobile. The Orange-ROM seems to be "manipulated" by the provider (?) not to work in this desirable way. All (or some?) Orange-ROM-Handsets seem to activate the data connection (3G/GPRS) every time ignoring the established Wi-Fi-connection. This rises the providers business volume.
It would appear to be correct about orange having had the method of connection changed.
I have just found and installed a different RADIO.ROM to my Orange Touch 3G and now it appears to connect as required.
Still not 100pc happy but will post my observations later with the rom numbers if it helps anyone else out..
Phil-w
Look on the HTC JADE reflashing on this site
Hi All,
There is no way around the Orange apps to enable WiFi, but I successfully reflashed the Roms in my Orange touch 3g yesterday.
Have a look here for the details on what to do:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406
Follow the instructions carefully, and I chose to install the Stock HTC ROM 1.40.721.2 from the ROM post.
Wifi is then free....
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Well I appear to have got around the Orange Unique problem.
I upgraded the Rom on my Orange UK Touch 3G to the Jademan SuperRom V3. That got rid of the Unique side of things but with no improvement with Wifi connectivity.
The connectivity problem with wifi still caused problems, the internet connection would NOT use wifi even if I disabled the GPRS / 3G data connection with "NoData" It just returned a message saying it had failed to connect.
I decided to find a new radio rom image which I managed to on this Jade forum. I flashed the new rom and tested the same connections again. This time the wifi connected via Wifi first and without any problem... It would appear that flashing the Jademan rom didn't update the radio as well, I needed to update the radio as well.
The clue may be in the radio rom version number,
Original orange 0.29.30.U23
New Radio rom 0.41.30.12
A assume that the U in the orange rom refers to "Unique", which now I have replaced it, it appears to have cured the wifi problem and it is working just as any other Non-Orange Jade / Touch 3G does....
I have not noticed any problems with any other radio related issues since the upgrade, GPS, 3G/GPRS etc all seem to be fine.
I do find that the phone does struggle to connect with some Dlink AP's though... It may be a problem with the Dlink more than the phone but I still need to do more tests on that.
May be that will help a few other people out there...
Phil-w
Hi Phil,
I had exactly the same problem!
Started with an unlocked HTC Touch 3G with Orange customised ROM and then replaced it with the SuperROM. WiFi was unusable so (having read your post) I re-flashed with the standard ROM released from HTC and then re-flashed the SuperROM. This gave me the same Radio ROM that you show above however the WiFi problems seemed to be no better.
While I liked the idea of having the SuperROM I have gone back to the latest standard HTC ROM and all seems to be well.
John
Hi John,
My wifi now seems fine except not liking Dlink AP's for some reason.
I don't even need to stop gprs data with NoData etc, if there is a wifi connection available that I have setup previously it will use that rather than GPRS..
I appear to have "de-Oranged" it !!!
What probs do you still have on your Touch 3G ??
Phil

setting connection preference ???

is there a way to make sure the phone only connects to my home wi fi hub when at home and does not connect via my 3g vodafone connection. I want it to automatically select the fastest link and not waste my 3g allowance ? I've searched but cannot find a solution, thanks
+1 good idea, anyone got anything on this?
Andi,
The solution I would use would be to go to Settings>Wireless Controls and simply switch Data Connections off, Wifi On when at home.
You would have to remember to to reverse this when done if you want to access 3G services.
WB
u could use G-Profile.. It allows you to set up different profiles and switch them automatically based on your current cell id. Wifi on/3G off when at home, other way around when not. Works like a charm for me
thanks for the tip but when I do that it then automatically turns it back on even when I'm connected to the wireless hub, all of a sudden they both are on . . . . . . .?? any ideas ??
i have the same problem... it keeps using my 3G/EDGE network even if WIFI is available... and i dont get it how can HTC afford not to give us an option to set that the phone asks you for permission when connecting to 3G/EDGE network... this **** costs and im not really happy about the fact that my phone can connect to a network whenever it feels like.
(and yes this **** keeps happening even tho i disabled automatic updates in weather/time applications.)
In BSB tweaks if you press options I think there is an option to disable all data connections. I have never tried it but maybe it will override all connection attempt? Give it a try. Also, I flashed to the 2.01 ROM and I think the data connections are a little less persistent, though I don't wan't to guarantee anything!
andi1977dog said:
is there a way to make sure the phone only connects to my home wi fi hub when at home and does not connect via my 3g vodafone connection. I want it to automatically select the fastest link and not waste my 3g allowance ? I've searched but cannot find a solution, thanks
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does it not do that by default? i cant send emails through t-email when i'm at home - I just presumed this was because i was connected through my wireless router. turning off wifi allows me to send emails.
thus I presumed wifi takes preference?
I am wondering the same thing. The idealist situation would be to have both connections active at the same time, and let the HD2 make sure that wifi is used when the connection is there. Is there some kind of application to verify which connection is being used?
Great thread - I am not the only HD2 owner who is annoyed with the problem with the HD2 switching on its GRPS data connection without my approval!!!
Could it be that the HD2 turns off the wifi when it goes to sleep and then tries to connect to the web using the GPRS network? In that case how do I prevent turning off WIFI when in sleepmode?
I read somewhere else in this forum about a G-profile. Being a newbie with HTC I have no idea what this is. Any clue?
But overall: Yes, it would be great if HTC added an option to set network connection preferences.
WiFi does take preference if it's connected! Dont forget when you are at home and you turn your phone on from standby it will take 10sec or so to connect to your WiFi router, if you try and use IE, Opera, Twitter, Weather Update, Email, etc... before it's connected it will fire up your 3G data connection!
The phone does not how ever turn off your data conn when it's idle which is annoying! You need to use Bandswitch or CommManager from here http://www.commmgrpro.com/jsp/main_frame.jsf;jsessionid=103F335931311F019BD540B82E479383 or WMLonglife from this forum (do a search).
there must be someone out there with ghe know how and expertise to solve this ?? glad to see its an issue for othet folk, i like the idea for selecting wi fi over gprs if its there to be selected.......
I found out that my HD2 automatically closes the 3G connection when I have wifi active. I'm not sure why it does that, I know pretty sure that it had not always done that. But I'm quite happy with it
It turns 3G on again after disconnecting from WIFI, which is what I want.
so if you tap the notifications tab and the "contratc internet" is counting and the wi fii is connected it is using the wifi and not the "contract internet" even though the timer is counting ???
Can anyone confirm ???
p.s tried using the G-Profile software, it seems very inconsistant and didnt always turn off what it should when you select the profile so im going to unistall it.
for some reason the automatic internet settings from vodafone messes up/hides the "The Internet" or "MyISP" connection that is in the phone originally.. I even hard resetted but you just can't seem to stop the automatic settings..
disable the proxy of the "Vodafone live!" connection and it will work.. just like twitter etc..
the same with email only checking through 3G and not wifi.. but set the server settings of your account to "The Internet" after you disabled the proxy.. (advanced settings at the smpt server tab)
hope this helps.. but a thing worries me, as I don't know anything about proxies, why does vodafone specify a proxy if we don't realy need one.. to port us over their live portal or something? (on my old sony ericsson the track ID service didn't work because of that)
"disable the proxy of the "Vodafone live!" connection and it will work.. just like twitter etc.."
thanks but how do i do this ??
anyone know how i do this ? thanks
After including the Taskmanager as a quick link in HTC Sense I am now able to close all programs. Now I do no longer experience any unfortunate GPRS connections when connected to WIFI.
Only problem is that when running on batteries the WIFI connection is closed down when the unit enters sleepmode. However during sleepmode, if I have not closed down programs accessing the web these are now able to connect to the web by using the GPRS connection.
Why on Earth has HTS decided to decipher a click on the X as MINIMIZE and not CLOSE!!!
tnyborg said:
After including the Taskmanager as a quick link in HTC Sense I am now able to close all programs. Now I do no longer experience any unfortunate GPRS connections when connected to WIFI.
Only problem is that when running on batteries the WIFI connection is closed down when the unit enters sleepmode. However during sleepmode, if I have not closed down programs accessing the web these are now able to connect to the web by using the GPRS connection.
Why on Earth has HTS decided to decipher a click on the X as MINIMIZE and not CLOSE!!!
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I believe my Wifi connection is kept alive, even in sleepmode.
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I believe my Wifi connection is kept alive, even in sleepmode.
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Sorry, forgot to mention this - but in order to save battery power I have asked the unit to close down the WIFI when in sleepmode (using BsB Tweaks). And indeed it gives me more battery life.

No Wifi after 10 mins

I have seen lots of issues concerning wifi but I haven't seen a thread with the same issues I have been experiencing.
When I turn on the phone I see all the local wifi networks and I can successfully connect to them. After a period of time (appears to be random) I lose connection. When I go to the wifi settings I don't see any of the local networks. In fact I can stand next to the router and it won't show up in the list of networks.
I have tried turning the wifi on/off but that doesn't have any affect. The only solution is to restart my phone i.e. rinse and repeat.
I have factory-reset my phone and didn't install from backup but that hasn't made any difference.
Has anyone seen this behaviour and do they have a solution?
Brother wish I knew why the wifi was such a mess but I can't get any answers either.
Same here, after endless search no wifi is found. Connection comes after restart only for minutes, but not always.
StuffIt123 said:
I have seen lots of issues concerning wifi but I haven't seen a thread with the same issues I have been experiencing.
When I turn on the phone I see all the local wifi networks and I can successfully connect to them. After a period of time (appears to be random) I lose connection. When I go to the wifi settings I don't see any of the local networks. In fact I can stand next to the router and it won't show up in the list of networks.
I have tried turning the wifi on/off but that doesn't have any affect. The only solution is to restart my phone i.e. rinse and repeat.
I have factory-reset my phone and didn't install from backup but that hasn't made any difference.
Has anyone seen this behaviour and do they have a solution?
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Same here, after endless search no wifi is found. Connection comes after restart only for minutes, but not always.
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Have you experienced this when connected to other access points/routers?
Try turning off "turn on wifi automatically" (just suggestion)
select another channel on your router
Is the network you are having trouble with "hidden"?
"find somebody that you think is undeserving of your compassion and give it to them" - Christian Picciolini
Thanks for the responses. I was having issues accessing public wifis and my own private one (not hidden). I changed channel on the router with no success.
I reached out to Essential and they were very helpful and have subsequently replaced the phone.
Mine is a bit curious, sometimes after reboot it shows no sim-card and switches after seconds wifi off.
Could it be a faulty antenna or something? At the moment it works normal.

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