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Wifi access to internet via ISA firewall

I've just set up a small wireless network at home through which I intend to use several devices to connect to the internet through my LAN!
The LAN gateway is running ISA 2004 and my home computer is running the necessary Firewall client (a completely secure connection with username and password)!
Now everything's working fine... the pocket pc hooks up just right and i can browse the network and do what I could probably do using my own personal computer BUT the internet doesn't work!
It keeps asking me for a username and password (which like i usually provide in internet explorer on my personal computer) which i do supply... three times in a row after which it gives me an error saying that ISA cannot authenticate me!
The home computer doesn;t run the internet without the firewall client, and i'm supposing the pocket pc is facing the same dilemma! is there any way to circumvent this issue? perhaps a mobile version of the isa firewall client?
Please help. Thanks!

afaik there isn't a mobile version of the firewall client.
I set my ISA server to allow anonymous internet access ,and set all my machines up as secure nat clients (set isa servers ip as default gateway, I use a dhcp scope to do this). There is lots of info on this on microsofts ISA server website, I'd suggest a look there first, or try a google for secure nat.
Good luck, works well for me but ymmv.

PocketPC program to update dynamic DNS name at DynDNS.org?

Yet another way that your device can be protected is whenever it's able to hit the internet. It would update a dynamic DNS entry on your account at DynDNS.org with hopefully a public IP address it gets and from there, if you have a program like SOTI Pocket Controller Professional, you can instantly gain remote access to the device. That's just one program of many that could benefit from this.
Is there any program for the Pocket PC that updates a dynamic DNS name there?

Any news on programs like this?
Would be very much appreciated!

If you look up posts by OdeeanRDeathshead you will find a discussion somewhere (sorry, don't remember the exact link) that you can't get a public IP over GPRS connection, so unless the phone it self initiates a connection you can not reach it.
This means that unless you device is connected via WIFI a program like this would be useless.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

OK, I understand that.
I found an IP using www.whatsmyip.org. For example 123.123.123.123
I'm using my phone to connect to an Exchange Server. But I only want my phone to reach te server, so I have set up my firewall to forward (NAT) certain ports from source 123.123.123.123 to the Exchange Server. The rest of the IP's are going somewhere else.
But the IP changes of course, guess T-Mobile has more gateways in use. Maybe to another everytime you connect.
Is there a program that sends a query to whatsmyip.org (or another site like this) and then updates the IP address in a DNS record (like dyndns.org). Any help would be appreciated.

vpn compatible apps

the remote desktop client on my vario ii connects to my work desktop perfectly using our office vpn but it is rubbish! the screen doesn't scale well at all or provide any kind of zoom out function.
I have a vnc client which performs much better but it won't connect over the vpn it only works when connected directly to the office network.
forwarding ports is out of the question. so my question is this.
is there a vnc client for pocket pc which will work over vpn or is there a way to make the remote desktop client less rubbish
also are there any apps out there that will let me browse my work network over the vpn. resco doesn't seem to be able to do it even the ftp client won't work.
am I missing something about vpn connections as it seems the only two apps that work over one are activesync and the remote desktop client.

Did you tried to acces domain controler throught the VPN? If yes it is normal that it doesn't work; Domain controler require security enhancement in auth that pocket devices cannot deliver yet. The only way I know is to reduce the security enhancement by using the GPO on the concerned servers; but this is far of being a clean fix.

Just trying to use connect to a vnc server on my workstation. btw our domain controller is the exchange server and active sync works fine

Active sync & exchange do not use the integrate authentification & kerberos; it uses a plain text auth (crypted with the SSL certs), that's why it works. Even if you are on the LAN you will not be able to access your domain's controller shares because of security enhancement.
This is far from solving your issue; but I just wanted to make it clear. Concerning your issue I can't help you at the moment, I still didnt tried the VPN & advanced networking.
btw, good luck

I have set up a vpn on my home computer, no domain, and can't access shares or a vnc server on that either.

Hi Stemill, I seen your other post about the vpn issues with Resco also, I have heard in the past about vpn issues using the [email protected], are you using [email protected] or [email protected]?
I use the terminal/remote client on a daily basis, and it does blow, vj on the board here has made an app that allows fullscreen with the terminal client, and theres a Mocha remote desktop client that supports scaling but no fullscreen, both of which have their own quirks. The scaling makes the text impossible to read when its even at 25%
I have been working on connecting to the remote desktop on mac with vnc, and I've gotten as far as an error on authentification, so I know its possible outside of a home network, but I don't have a clue about buisness situations..exchange or vpn's.
I not even 100% positive about the wap issue, I just seem to remember reading something about it in the past.
Sorry I wasn't of much help, also I kind of have a question for you, I see you mention activesync, you're not activesyncing over an internet connection are you?, I'm working on installing apps that I don't have a .cab for over an internet connection, but the best route I had figured out was to install to a ftp share and then grab the .cab from there with Resco.
Best of luck to you.

Hi there.
I'm on t-mob in the uk. They have a 3g network with full internet access so i'm not using wap at all.
Thanks for the tips about the remote client tweaks. Do you have a link?
I'm using activesync to connect to my works exchange server to sync email and calendar. Pretty sure its not possible to sync over the air to a pc without using exchange. You certainly won't be able to grab remote files via activesync.
If we could figure out how to get apps to work over vpn you could set one up on your pc and (theoretically at least) browse its contents using resco without having to bother with ftp.
If it's not possible to get stuff working over the vpn then you've probably found the best solution already. use ftp or setup a webserver on your pc and host the cab files on that. pocket ie seems to let you install cab files directly from a link.
btw which vnc client are you using on your phone?

Hi, I forget a lot of the time that people here have so many different carriers, sorry.
Here's the link to vj's terminal addon app
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJFullscreenTSC
And here's the link to the Mocha remote client app
http://www.mochasoft.dk/rd.htm
I used .Net vnc when I was able to get the authentification error
http://www.freewareppc.com/docs/netvncviewer.shtml
I think my problem on the authentification was with the apple remote desktop itself, I read about somethin in the authentification being non standard and sometimes the free vnc viewers don't work..but that was also pc to pc related, the same makers of the Mocha remote desktop also make a vnc client..that was gonna be my next try, I just haven't gotten there yet.
I inistally set up my pc to be able to remote to it from my phone and access aol chatrooms..well mainly one I have hung out in for years, then realized if I set up a server, I could install apps that I couldn't find in .cab form over the net with it, I used to have windows server 2003 set up with IIS(webserver) and the streaming media services, I'm wondering now if the windows streaming media really works with the pocket windows media, and if I could even use it with my gprs/edge connection, I'm still waiting on 3G, suprisingly the remote desktop isn't too bad on gprs/edge.
I'm currently waiting to get a new hard drive before I can really get to work, I'm testing on an old messed up xp install, and half the time I can't even access "my computer" or open folders without it crashin explorer.

i've looked everywhere, seriously. -remote desktop

any detailed how to guide?, i can do it, i'm fairly tech savvy, so i just need to kneed out a few things. maybe if you caould start from the beginning and i can see where i went wrong.
logmein.com works, but i want something more personal, just bewtween the computer and my phone. somerthing that looks good and scales full screen preferably.
please guys?, point me in the right direction.. all the posts just keep saying to search and there's lots of info, but there's no step by step guide.
thanks guys!

ok i got it going.
first go to the computer you want to connect to and go to control panel / system
click on remote, enable remote users
go to start menu, run. type cmd
in command write "ipconfig /all"
take note of your ip address
on your phone go to remote desktop,
computer = your ip address
username = (go to startmenu, control panel, user accounts) use one of those names.
password = blank unless you have a password.
domain = i left blank.
connect full color unless it doesnt work for you
if you can connect and you get a password error
type the error you get inot google and you should get a fix as your first link.
try that.
blam, remote desktop, it's awesome.

Nice how-to...
this is the most succinct tutorial on how to do this that I've seen. I'm still having trouble, though. I get the "Cannot connect. Likely reason are: 1 the remote comupter is not set up for this. 2. Reached the maximum number of connections. 3. A network error occurred while connecting."
I have set up the XP PC, & taken down all firewalls. I only have one user account and it has a password. I've even tried using Hamachi with one of their VPN ip addresses (awesome and free for pc2pc). I 've combed trhough my router settings too, and tried to clear everything there, too. I can RD from an XP laptop, so ti seems to be something on the unit, to me. I've also setup file sharing w/ Total Commander (it's served my purposes amply).
I really have googled & googled & googled. If anyone has any idea what is going on, I'd be grateful for some ideas.

Have you enabled the RDP on the host computer?
Right click my computer
Properties
Remote
Then enable allow user to connect remotely.

Will only work on XP Pro, or Vista if you choose to allow older clients which they scaremonger you against by saying it's less secure.

Danke!
I've been scared away from Vista for the usual "new" OS reasons, but perhaps it's getting to be time for me to haul my old conservative back-end into the modern world.
Thanks so much for taking the time!
(and to Biohead: yes, I followed the instructions I lauded so vehemently.... ???)

you're running vista?
and you haven't been able to connect still, right?
sorry i could walk you through xp, but man vista sucks, i wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

i'm setting up remote desktop on my iphone
hahaha totally referred to this guide

and it sucks, so i'm sticking with vnc
man, i miss my exec/universal

dutchschultz said:
any detailed how to guide?, i can do it, i'm fairly tech savvy, so i just need to kneed out a few things. maybe if you caould start from the beginning and i can see where i went wrong.
logmein.com works, but i want something more personal, just bewtween the computer and my phone. somerthing that looks good and scales full screen preferably.
please guys?, point me in the right direction.. all the posts just keep saying to search and there's lots of info, but there's no step by step guide.
thanks guys!
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Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294524

orb3000 said:
Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294524
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you, my friend, are awesome

A possible solution for those of us on T-Mobile's standard web n walk
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I thought I'd post my experiences here in case anyone else (like me) searches for a solution to enabling RDP on T-Mobile (UK at least).
I was having the same problem with remote desktop, it saying that the server was not available. I phoned up T-Mobile's helpdesk as recommended here and after getting past first line support (who didn't know what remote desktop was, and tried sending new connection settings to my phone to resolve the issue) I got through to someone who knew what they were talking about. Turns out that I'm on T-Mobile's "basic" or "handset-only" web-n-walk package, and it's not possible to use RDP on this. I assume they block the relevant ports. They told me that I could pay an extra fiver a month to upgrade to a version of web-n-walk which can handle RDP.
Well I told them I would think about it, but instead tried to find a way around it as the one or two times I need to use RDP are certainly not worth a fiver a month. My solution is probably only suitable for the more techy of us, but without much work and with no prior experience I managed to set up a SSH tunnel using FreeSSHd as a server running on my windows server (although a normal windows box should work fine - http://www.freesshd.com/) and zaTunnel as a client on my phone (http://www.zatelnet.com/zatunnel/main.php). Both programs are free.
Basically my phone takes all RDP connections and tunnels them over SSH to my windows server, which then turns them back into RDP connections. T-Mobile have no idea I'm using RDP, and if they block the SSH port in the future I can always change FreeSSHd to run on port 80 (for web). This will also work for other protocols T-Mobile might be blocking (FTP springs to mind).
Just thought I'd post this in case anyone was in my situation of needing RDP on their standard web'n'walk.
Edit Sorry posted this in the wrong thread! Will leave this post up however just in case someone finds it useful

echolock
Many thanks for the above have been searching everywhere for a fix to this. I am the same as you T Mobile (UK) and can't connect.
Could you give some additional advice as how you got the RDP to work.
For the record I can connect by Wi-Fi and by using a PAYG sim from a different carrier. However, I am on a contract with T Mobile and don't want to carry a different sim just to use the RDP.
I have installed both apps. I can make a connection from zaTunnel on Port SSH:24 to the freeSSHD server (SSH - listening on port 24). Other than adding a User and changing the default port to 24 there are no other changes I have made in freeSSHD.
Under the connections tab in zaTunnel I have left Network: Automatic with the other settings relevant to make a connection.
Under the ports tab of zaTunnel I have
LP> 3389,
IP/URL . IP of the desktop I want to connect to of 192.168.1.10
>RP 3389
When I the start the Remote Desktop app under my Windows Mobile 6.1 it indicates connecting the fails as before.
Also forgot to mention freeSSHD is running on the desktop I want to connect to.

Sure thing.
When you run Remote Desktop under Windows Mobile, make sure you connect to "localhost" NOT to the IP of the desktop you want to connect to.
Your other settings seem correct to me.
To attempt to explain a little, basically what happens is as follows. For simplicity's sake I will have three machines, your phone, your SSH server and your RDP server (although the latter two can be the same).
On your phone:
1) Remote Desktop connects to localhost on port 3389.
2) zaTunnel is listening on localhost on port 3389. It echos all commands sent to this port out on port 22 over your cellular connection to your SSH server, also providing details of your RDP server and port.
On your SSH server:
3) FreeSSHd receives the commands sent over port 22 and is told by zaTunnel to convert them to commands sent to your RDP server using port 3389.
On your RDP server:
4) Remote Desktop receives a normal RDP request over the normal port from your SSH server.
5) Responses are sent to your SSH server.
On your SSH server:
6) FreeSSHd receives the RDP responses, and sends them back to your phone over port 22.
On your phone:
7) zaTunnel converts the commands sent over port 22 back into RDP commands sent over port 3389.
8) Remote desktop receives a response from zaTunnel and thinks it's connected directly to an RDP server on localhost. In actuality it's connected to your RDP server using an SSH tunnel provided by zaTunnel and FreeSSHd.
Hope this makes sense, I'm not very good at explaining this!

Ah found another problem. The IP of your desktop you say is 192.168.1.10 - this is a local IP address so will only work on your local network.
Go to a website like http://whatismyipaddress.com/ from the machine you run SSHd on to find out what your current "external" IP address is. Bear in mind that most home broadband connections have a "dynamic" address which is allocated to you and might change from time to time - you can always use something like http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ to set yourself up with a static hostname, and run a program on your machine which updates your hostname with the correct IP address every time it changes. Some routers have this functionality built in.

Thanks for the quick response and explanation.
Between posting and reading your reply I had worked out the RDP app needs the localhost or the IP 127.0.0.1.
I had come back here to post, so others would know in future.
Your other point you raised about the desktop IP. I have used this only in the ports tab on zaTunnel. The connection tab has a proper mydomainname.com address. (Provides email and a webmail interface).
Anyway, can connect now and thank you again in solving this for me. (If your in Leeds I will buy you a beer).

Ah yeah the 192.* address would work on the ports tab, fair enough. Might be worth pointing out if others read this that this is only the case if the machine you're trying to RDP to is on the same local network (or the same machine) as the machine you have FreeSSHd running on.
But good to hear you got it working Now hopefully T-Mobile won't cotton-on and decide to block port 22 too...

Remote Desktop WM6 T-Mobile Wing help

I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.

homiedaclown said:
I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
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a few thoughts,
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
2. do you have a password setup on the user account that you log into windows on if no remote desktop will not allow access.
3. when browsing from a 3rd party network ( e.g mcdonalds or over GPRS/HSDPA ) you browse to your external ip not the dark ip of 192.168.1.x i use dyndns.org so i can just browse to the dynamic domain ip which is my external ip of my home pc
4. since you mentioned a dark ip i can only also assume your using a router at home. this means you either use such as LogmeIn/Hamachi and browse to the home pc's Hamachi IP ( e.g 5.5.100.50 ) or you will have to set a port forward in your router to forward any requests from port 3389 to the local IP of the home pc, ( e.g 192.168.1.100 )
I use static ip's in my router at home to ensire that the port forward will always goto my home pc's internal ip address. My particular router from netgear allows to have the ip of a specific machine be assigned the same ip internally based on it's ethernet adapter MAC address. making no changes required on the pc itself other them standard DHCP.
hope this helps.

1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
1. I am using Windows XP Home. I have allowed Remote Access under the tab Systems Tab.
2. I only have a pw on the prog VNC server on the pc but no passwords for windows *should I? :| ... Then I try VNC Viewer the the Pocket PC *T-mobile Wing.
3. I am reading up on the dyndns.org site. I assume I need the free dns service for those with dynamic IP addresses. *i hope I have that.
4. I have Linksys Bef11s4... I believe I can set static ip's though its tricky for me. I am going to try for the pc I want to connect to. This networking stuff gets a little bit blurry for me. I understand that static means non-changing, therefore the pc to connect to in network will have same ip on restarts and things. I am familiar with the port forwarding options *do i need tcp and udp checked?... again any thoughts definately appreciated...
lastly, Do you have any particular progs you recommend for me to do this concept? I have a few installed, but not sure i need all.. I have pocketputty on pda and wm6 rdc... plus vncvier. On the PC i have VNC CLient and VNC Server *believe I only need server. Thank you for your time Cyberjak

1. Just go to http://www.logmein.com
2. Sign up. It's free.
3. Screw Remote Desktop and juggling internal vs. external IP addresses and DNS.
4. Use/enjoy...no work needed.
MJB

Logmein has like 6 choices... I am looking to remote access outside my network... also is this free? I see trials and stuff... thanks for help mjb

have the logme in installed on main and when i use pda it doesnt work...i installed cab and log in fine but when i go to remote the pc it takes my access code and then pops up with error message for menuPDA.html... i cleared history and cookies and tried to make sense of the forums... I am using the T-mobile Wing with WM6.... wierd... willing to try the other way if needed... i guess i could also try loggin thru a pc not home to the remote pc... i believe i saying this remote term correctly but i believe u understand. I am trying to use my PDA anywhere to control home pc.... thanks for help guys... i am willing to try whatever way works...

I've used Logmein on my MDA Pro, Ameo and now on my Vario 3.
You should first try to remote your PC while your sitting next to it. That way you can see any firewall pop ups that may be blocking you.

I have been trying when i am right next to it... I am using my WM6 to connect wi-fi to the internet thru my network.... the pc i wanna control is on my network...

It doesn't matter what network the PDA and PC are on. Logmein uses an internet connection.

yeah, tried a bunch of things to get logmein to work, and it always comes to the page of "403 Forbidden (0x5) menuPDA.html System error: Access is denied. (5)"
checked their forrums too...
guessing i should try going back to client/server manual entry... either way, any advice from you guys much appreciated.... It seems WM6 are known for incompatibility issues with RDC situations.... hoping not the case but...thanks again guys

got logmein working nicely, thank you for the help guys...

Gooer Remote Desktop Service
I am using Gooer Remote Desktop Service(http://www.gooer.com) and it let me access my home PC using laptop or mobile phone.

remote desktop only works, as far as I know, on XP pro & Vista
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357009