Fido/Rogers Subcribers: Which Radio are you using? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I haven't experienced any problems with 1.40, 1.41 or 1.43
But I was just wondering which do you all prefer?
Please state subscriber.

ChiGGz said:
I haven't experienced any problems with 1.40, 1.41 or 1.43
But I was just wondering which do you all prefer?
Please state subscriber.
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The official Rogers radio version is 1.42.00.00 (i.e. this is what is on the TyTN's that they are now selling). I am using 1.40.30.00 and it is working well for me. Did not bother trying 1.43.00.00 since many North American users appeared to be having problems with it, leading me to believe that it has been tweaked for European users.
John

johnburn said:
The official Rogers radio version is 1.42.00.00 (i.e. this is what is on the TyTN's that they are now selling). I am using 1.40.30.00 and it is working well for me. Did not bother trying 1.43.00.00 since many North American users appeared to be having problems with it, leading me to believe that it has been tweaked for European users.
John
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I'm using 1.41.00.10 with no problems, though I am using it voice only (no data -- Rogers can go screw themselves with their ridiculous prices /rant off).
Are the majority of problems people having with different radios more on the voice or data side of things, or is that somewhat irrelevant?

I'm using 1.41 on Rogers. I don't use 3G often, mostly just EDGE and voice. Battery only gets me through a day, but besides that, I don't have any voice quality\dropped call issues, data is stable and fast, all is good.

dtx said:
I'm using 1.41 on Rogers. I don't use 3G often, mostly just EDGE and voice. Battery only gets me through a day, but besides that, I don't have any voice quality\dropped call issues, data is stable and fast, all is good.
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I have had 1.43.00.00 since it was released, no issue's nor have I had any issues with 1.41 or 1.40.
Rogers doesn't seam to have the issues that some of the UK and US systems are having. My guess is that there are fewer providers in Canada and less radio traffic to compete with and more concentrated towers for many areas.

messaging not working now
had sucesssfully upgraded to latest rom by black shodow, with radio 1.43, now messaging is not working, is it bec of radio.

Could somebody kindly point me to the right direction regarding any Roger's roms? I've done a search but came up with nothing

I'm using 1.47 on Rogers w/BBConnect WM5. All seems good. However, my area doesn't have 3G so I don't know how it performs in that aspect.

not worth a change, really
I had original 1.42 for a while. it worked great- got 3g in toronto (even had it in Barrie for a day during testing.)
wifi was good, and battery life was as good as expected.
I'm currently running 1.47, and I don't really notice that much of a difference. 3g seems faster, and WiFi definitely is, but I also flashed a new Rom and updated the wifi drivers too. MMS also works, but to be fair, I never tried it before.
In all, not a huge difference.
Be sure to use Lurch's cab file for setting the Rogers APN/MMS setup info- it's flawless.

ChiGGz said:
I haven't experienced any problems with 1.40, 1.41 or 1.43
But I was just wondering which do you all prefer?
Please state subscriber.
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I'm using 1.41.00.10 on Rogers network.
I use voice and data (BB Connect + VPN).
No problems.

1.43 on all 5 of our Hermes phones since it's release and had no problems in Toronto.
We use them heavily with Data and since we're in TO we get 3G signals in most places - and I'm very impressed with battery life.
I have experienced problems with 1.46 and 1.47 not being able to receive calls while the device is active, but only a handful of others on this forum have reported the same problems, so maybe I just got 5 bad in a row.

using 1.41 in Montreal (voice only, we know how much data cost in Canada), good reception, battery last long.

I am using 1.47 after usimg 1.43. anyone else think it eays the battery a lot quicker?.
Matt

I am in the GTA and have been using 1.43 since it was released with no issues with voice or data. I was going to switch to 1.47 until I read Aoshi_'s post....now I am debating it... .

SoftBank X01HT
I am using original Radio ROM (1.16.00.00) still did not flashed it...i just received the handset yesterday. So my question is: Why i can't get EDGE? I get only GPRS (since there is no 3G HSDPA here) I know we got EDGE coverage here and the specifications of the phone says EDGE class 10, Please would you tell me if i am not using the good radio version?
Answer: not sure, maybe it's from the ROM and it do not displays "E" even on EDGE network. Speed test proof: On Rogers GPRS/EDGE : 100 kilobits/sec (It's EDGE even indicates "G")

1.51.00.10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323957
*Fido/Roger
**so far been using 2 days
Battery seems to drain quick compared to 1.38. Very notible once using GPRS/Edge/HSPDA [gprs data seems quicker]
Signal strength is odd. Cell phone shows full strength Tytn shows 2 bars.
- Tytn shows no signal (cell phone shows full) yet when I make a call it is ok
Dropped calls: 2 (in a good area for reception)

1.51.00.10
o Battery life is short
o Missed calls
o gprs - no issues - seemed quick
Swapped to 1.43.00.00
o Battery life about the same as 1.38.00.00
o No missed calls yet - no signal drops
o GPRS seems frozen at times - required to turn off/flightmode and reactivate.

Related

AT&T A.20.10 vs T-Mo 6.24 Radio Stack

Which is better? I used both and found both to be similar with GPRS and signal strength. I was curious why one would choose over the other.. and also the advantages and disadvantages. I am currently using the latest 4.00.16 T-Mo ROM. TIA.
Actually I am curious as to that question myself.
I currently run the 4.00.11 ROM with the AT&T A20 stack.
The bummer is that since I upgraded to 4.00.11, the signal meter is pretty much unrealiable now. Sometimes it shows 1 bar or none. The phone still works the same and I don't get dropped calls, but weird that it does that.
As far as the radio stack, out of all the people here that have used one or the other, or both, someone has to have an opinion on that.
There has to be some difference in quality since 2 companies have their own stack, Tmobile and AT&T. One must be better in some ways.
I can't say much to the signal bars since I didn't pay too much mind to them before. I *think* my GPRS is slower after I used T-MO 6.24 ROM. I also noticed my GPRS would hang and require a soft reboot in order the mail to retrieve again. I may go back to A.20 since the switch was pretty painless.

Does your Trinity/Dopod drop calls regularly?

My Dopod D810 from 3 drops calls regularly.
I think every single call will drop out after about 1-2 minutes. I also notice that when my phone is 'warm' from charging or other uses, the call can drop as quickly as 10 seconds into the call.
Initially it was suggested that the drop outs were due to my Phone > Band selection being set to 'Auto' but I have since changed this to Network Type=WCDMA and GSM/UMTS band=UMTS(2100+800).
But now I'm more inclined to think it has something to do with the device's temperature....
Any other ideas other than taking it back to 3?
Try changing the Radio ROM.
I had a similar problem after changing my Radio ROM from 1.41.00.11 to 1.46.00.11. Now I`m using 1.46.30.11 version and everything is OK. I even noticed a GPS signal level improvement.
I have the similar problem too. I m with 3 Australia. Upgraded to WM6 official ROM, still observing if call drop still happened.
If not, will take back for warranty repair
I am using a HTC-branded P3600 with the official HTC GPS-enabled WM5 ROM on the Vodafone UK network. With reasonable approximation I can say that I have 0 dropped calls (including calls made or received while in car).
My network type and band selections are both "auto".
Sometimes I make calls while the phone is charging via USB from a laptop (which makes it rather warm) but I haven't noticed any dropped calls in that situation either.
Radashka said:
Try changing the Radio ROM.
I had a similar problem after changing my Radio ROM from 1.41.00.11 to 1.46.00.11. Now I`m using 1.46.30.11 version and everything is OK. I even noticed a GPS signal level improvement.
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Excellent idea. I'm currently using Radio version: 1.35.00.11...if I go to 1.4x - are these compatible with WM5?
anonimo said:
I am using a HTC-branded P3600 with the official HTC GPS-enabled WM5 ROM on the Vodafone UK network. With reasonable approximation I can say that I have 0 dropped calls (including calls made or received while in car).
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Thank you anonimo - what radio version are you using?
BlackBeauty said:
Excellent idea. I'm currently using Radio version: 1.35.00.11...if I go to 1.4x - are these compatible with WM5?
Thank you anonimo - what radio version are you using?
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I`m using a WM5 LVSW edition. Used it with 1.41.00.11 for 3 months without problems, changed to 1.46.00.11 for 2 days and encountered call drop issue, changed to 1.46.30.11 and not even a problem so far.
I am using my trinity with 1.41 and WM6 (AX3L) and I really never drop a call unless I step into an elevator. I am usually on UMTS or HSDPA living here in NYC and cannot complain about my service nor the phone.
BlackBeauty said:
Excellent idea. I'm currently using Radio version: 1.35.00.11...if I go to 1.4x - are these compatible with WM5?
Thank you anonimo - what radio version are you using?
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I'm using version 1.35.00.11
Thanks for all the replies. Went ahead and upgraded ROM and Radio version to 3.00.707.16 and 1.46.30.11, respectively.
So far, no problems with call dropouts but I haven't made many long calls on it over the last 2 days but will keep assessing.
On the previous incarnation, I had also installed/uninstalled a LOT of programs over the 6 weeks I had had the phone so perhaps that contributed to the phone's instability too...
For me, it kinda worked the other way around...
I never experienced any call droppouts when I still had the original WM5 ROM with radio version 1.33.30.10 on my Dopod D810. (I'm with 3 in Australia)
After upgrading to the ANZ WM6 ROM with radio version 1.46.30.11, I can sometimes not even establish a connection as the call is dropped after the first ring or so. The other day I had to make a call 5 or 6 time to finish the conversation...
Is anybody else having similar issues AFTER upgrading?
Hi guys,
good to see that i'm not the only one that have call drop regularly.
Well, in fact, those are not always call drops.
Sometimes i miss calls and some other times, when i want to make a call, i see that my trinity's loosing the signal and starts to search for networks. Then i have to switch off the phone through the Connection Manager, then turn it on again so that i can make phone calls.
Are you experiencing the same on your device?
I'm still using Radio ROM 1.38.00.11
Do you guys have a link where to download the latest Radio ROM so that i can try it on my Trinity?
Thanks.
boy_in_oz said:
Is anybody else having similar issues AFTER upgrading?
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Yep, I experience drops after upgrading... But the strange thing is... even after downgrading to the shipped rom... still drops... ARRGHHHHHH
I'm just going to try another rom I think... not sure yet. Have switched my band from auto to fixed. First gonna see what happens.
Some said it is due to 3G/3.5G trying to establish a data connection (most likely for push mail) and in doing so the phone function is disabled. I did not verify this claim.
If anyone wants to test it, you might want to try:
1. disabling 3G and 3.5G
2. disabling data connection
and tell us the results!
solitary said:
Some said it is due to 3G/3.5G trying to establish a data connection (most likely for push mail) and in doing so the phone function is disabled. I did not verify this claim.
If anyone wants to test it, you might want to try:
1. disabling 3G and 3.5G
2. disabling data connection
and tell us the results!
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I will disable HSDPA. But I cannot disable my data connection because that's THE reason I bought my device for (using it for pushmail but I can use that with UMTS/GPRS connection also, don't need HSDPA for it).
I have found if I have network on AUTO i cant make calls, phone call drops straight away.
Switching to GSM allows me to make calls, but then I have no 3G
Found that radio rom 1.46.00.11 has no calls dropping for me. So I'm gonna stick with that one.
Cheers.
Arilexed said:
Found that radio rom 1.46.00.11 has no calls dropping for me. So I'm gonna stick with that one.
Cheers.
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Just updated to radio rom 1.41.00.11, first few calls on UMTS dropped, then after a reset calls now working.
Arilexed said:
Found that radio rom 1.46.00.11 has no calls dropping for me. So I'm gonna stick with that one.
Cheers.
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I have this ROM actually installed in my Trinity, and i still have call drops regularly
Once more today, it started to ring, then lost signal.
I'm wondering how much people has the same issue.
I used to have the same problem. I've reflashed my phone so many times coz of that.
But it seems like my problem's finally fixed
I'm using the most updated PDAVIET wm6 rom with Radio: 1.50.08.11
Been using that for about 2 weeks, haven't had a call drop since.
However I have had a few hangs here and there.
I run a lot of apps so the memory is pretty low most of the time. Yet for some reason I'm not getting any call drops so I'm happy. (Finally able to talk for like 15 mins without breaking up)
just fyi i'm also with 3, and don't have that band setting since I luv HSDPA yet certain areas only got Telstra reception...
Calls drop out
Hi, I'm in Sydney with 3 and haven't had any problems at all with the shipped WM5. After upgrading to the latest official WM6 ROM version 3.00.707.18 from the Dopd site things went bad with phone calls and weak signals.
Now upgraded the Radio to version 1.50.08.11 and everything's back to how it 's supposed to be.
Cheers and good luck.

Very bad T Mobile UK data performance with current radio

All,
There seems to be an incompatability between the "current" G1 Radio ROM (62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I) and T Mobile UK's network.
Even though this is the ROM they are rolling out to G1 users via OTA updates!
There are a number of issues including data connections that freeze and never re-connect without a phone reboot, incorrectly sticking to GSM in areas of good UMTS coverage, random disconnections from the data service, and a strange problem with the first SYN packet in most/all TCP sessions going "missing".
Combined with the ever-present problems with their packet shaping and web proxies and it's pretty grim.
TM UK are certainly aware of the problems unofficially - most of their (very good) UK-based support team tell people to lock their phones to GSM only, which does help a lot but is quite frustrating.
Anyone know whether there's a new radio coming that fixes this? Or a TM UK network fix? Or a better work-around?
Cheers
I am using an unlocked g1 on 3 in the UK and I am experiencing the same problems.
I was going to try downgrading the radio if possible but not tried it yet.....
I personally don't recomend a radio downgrade, especially if you have haykuro's spl. Instant brick
The previous radio doesn't work with cupcake.
I do have some speed issues in certain areas but I've not had any frozen connections that I couldn't fix by restarting the browser.. I actually assumed it was an issue with the hero browser, not the network.
I doubt there will be a radio update just for UK users. We are insignificant. As a Briton, you should know this by now.
I live in Carlisle, Cumbria and I have no problems with either 3G or GSM. Well, apart from the obvious lack of connectivity in Lake District
You can see my specs in the signature.
I am also a UK user, Im running a rooted phone with exactly the same setup as Karolis. Im not experiencing any issues either.
So if it's not the radio, it means that you either have hardware problems, or T-Mobile's coverage sucks in your area.
It is some sort of issue between the radio and TM UK- it was quite widely reported as being an issue when the Cupcake update was first rolled out, but things then went quiet. It could perhaps be regional, but it certainly isn't related to signal strength.
I'm aware of multiple people with the same issue .
Well, I guess some of us just got lucky while others not so much.
Did you try going to / calling T-Mobile?
Officially there is no problem - but they suggest you lock your G1 to GSM.

Was 3G now G

Flashed T-Mobile 1.43 to generic 1.66 which has improved the loud call volume and distortion greatly. But the network now says G rather than 3G are they the same?
Does this mean the network settings have changed. I have selected T-Mobile as the network internet.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks
3G is as you expect 3G, G is GPRS which is deffinately NOT 3G speed.
Chances are the rom you have installed has 3G mode off by default. Open Comm Mannager and you should find some toggle switches, one for data connection, and another for 3G. If the data connection one is on, but 3g is 'off', you will get G or E (for edge), but with the 3G one 'on' you should get H (HSDPA) or 3G
Tlooked through the settings and there is nothing that switches 3G on or off.
Anyone else seen this?
Thanks.
Suggestion:
Flash to Dutty's HG v8, which is based on the t-mobile ROM and has this option (and is much better than 1.66 stock, IMO)
I don't know about you since you are on T-Mobile, and if there is a 1.66 ROM released explicitly for the T-Mobile net, but I'll share my knowledge on this:
I'm located in Sweden and use the HD2 on the Tele2 net. I also upgraded to 1.66 and got the exact same problem as you.
I tried the 2.07 rom and the problem remained, however after 2-3 hours I finally got 3G connection.
The problem is that both 1.66 and 2.07 comes with newer radios. These Radios are the reason I can't use 3G at least. I downgraded the Radio to 2.05.51.05_2 and it all works fine for me now. I don't know if this is operator related or hardware related and hence I'd like to know if the 1.66 ROM you installed is explicitly released for the T-Mobile net.
If that's the case I'll probably need to contact my vendor since I'll probably not be able to use any of the newer Radios, which frankly sucks. Please let me know!
I have the 1.66 on Virgin UK (Tmobile and the 3G has not dropped at all.
Don't know if that helps or confuses ?
donalgodon said:
Suggestion:
Flash to Dutty's HG v8, which is based on the t-mobile ROM and has this option (and is much better than 1.66 stock, IMO)
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+1
Ild rather have the choice, than no choice at all. Dutty's ROM has been the only flashes ive needed since T-Mobile stock ROMs.
The ROM is the latest 1.66 on the HTC website. I asked T-Mobile about it but the person did not really know. They asked if the internet connection was fast, but since I've had the phone it has been patchy. It seems reasonably fast today. We have two other T-Mobile phones, HTC Hero and Samsung Galaxy and both these also show the G and these are non flashed standard as bought.
I'm a bit nervous about using cooked ROMs.
Andy
Went over to Hungerford this morning and 3G came up so it must be a network/location issue and nothing associated with ROM 1.66.
Good to know all functionality is still there.
Thanks for all the replies.
Andy
andyrpsmith said:
Went over to Hungerford this morning and 3G came up so it must be a network/location issue and nothing associated with ROM 1.66.
Good to know all functionality is still there.
Thanks for all the replies.
Andy
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As I said, in my case it took a couple of hours (no matter location) and the 3G appeared. Could you do a soft reset when you get the 3G at Hungerford and see how long it takes before you get 3G again?

Signal is AWFULL! (When Handled)

I've copied this from the Vodafone (UK) forum - but I don't seem to be the only one with a proble... Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I've had my HD2 for just a few days now and I can honestly say that unless something is sorted soon I won't be using it much longer! I have exactly the same problem in both DT1 and BH20 post codes. Singal is good and strong when the device is left on a desk/table etc... I can have FULL signal but lift the device up and it drops to 3, 2, 1 and then no signal...
I can make perfect phone calls using hands free, but can't even send or recieve a text if I pick the phone up. We're talking less than 24" of movement here so it has to be device related!
Comparing this to the HTC Diamond. The Diamond although showing slightly less signal (2-3bars) is much more stable and non-reactive to being handled.
I'm using the very latest updates with HSDPA/HSUPA disabled.
It would seem that HTC has dropped the ball here.
(HSPL - ROM 1.66)
Vodafone thread - http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=48152&st=0
I replied to your post in the Vodafone forum assuming you were still on the stock 1.43 ROM, but if you are on 1.66 then I am not sure what to suggest as you mentioned that it happens in multiple areas which seem to be a fair way apart and therefore would be on different transmitters (unless you are unfortunate enough to be in several areas all suffering from faulty cell-towers).
I know mine drops a bar when I pick it up but not 2 to 3 and then to no signal...
Maybe you should contact HTC about a replacement? Dont bother with Vodafone as they'll offer you a Blackberry 9700 if they cant fix it...
SOunds faulty to me. There is sometimes a small drop in signal for me when the phoe is cupped in my hand, but not more than 1 bar, usually none.
I'd get on to your provider for a warranty replacement.
Nothing such here. And I'm in a low reception place here, seems it even does better than my previous Kaiser.
Seems that Vodafone is a bit of a crappy network in terms of its compatibility with phones! If it's not text messages staying in the outbox it's data disconnecting/not working and no picture messaging NOW rubbish signal....jeez. I've been on T-Mobile with the HD2 since it arrived in november and haven't had one single problem with texts, data, signal....anything. I've had two different handsets in that time too since I sold the first upgrade.
In all seriousness though I do also have a prototype pro.three (pre-release HD2) and that suffers from low signal/signal dropout so in this instance it seems that you have a faulty unit.
I do hear a lot of moaning Voda users on these forums though which makes me quite likely to steer clear when I get my upgrade in a few weeks.
Link added:
Vodafone thread - http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=48152&st=0
It doesn't look like its JUST my phone here...
Outside this problem is not half as bad.
Lots of people across the world are having problems with the SMS thing.
Its also not limited to the HD2 handset as I had it on Kaiser when I updated that handset to WM6.5
Is the 2.07 radio much better? I'm currently using 2.06 at the moment...
dan_t said:
Is the 2.07 radio much better? I'm currently using 2.06 at the moment...
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signal reception seems better (vodafone) however a few including me have an isue of static noise when someone speaks. I have this on 2.07 and 2.08 radios - not sure if its network related. I'm using a custom rom, and have no choise but to use 2.07 or higher, unless i revert back to a previous rom.
ardsar said:
signal reception seems better (vodafone) however a few including me have an isue of static noise when someone speaks. I have this on 2.07 and 2.08 radios - not sure if its network related. I'm using a custom rom, and have no choise but to use 2.07 or higher, unless i revert back to a previous rom.
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I've tried the 2.07 radio and its not noticably better
I've now made my own thread over at Vodafone... it'll be interesting to see what they have to say about it!
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=52093
If you can flash ROMs try Leo Lite V2.2 WWE with the 2.08.50.08_2 radio.
I'm in a very patchy area and behind solar glass and the above setup gives me signal strength and stability better than any other ROM/radio combo or phone I have ever had. This includes many other HTC and Nokia phones.
I never seem to miss a call now and the SMS problemis gone although I believe that is partly to do with the cooked ROM setup.
Also I can pull in H and 3G signals that I could not before.
pa49 said:
If you can flash ROMs try Leo Lite V2.2 WWE with the 2.08.50.08_2 radio.
I'm in a very patchy area and behind solar glass and the above setup gives me signal strength and stability better than any other ROM/radio combo or phone I have ever had. This includes many other HTC and Nokia phones.
I never seem to miss a call now and the SMS problemis gone although I believe that is partly to do with the cooked ROM setup.
Also I can pull in H and 3G signals that I could not before.
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Does the ROM actually play any part in this though or is it just the RADIO upgrade? I've just gone over to 2.08 but using the stock HTC 1.66 ROM
have you checked that the battery cover is on correctly? there are to prongs on the inside of it that make it part of the arial
dan_t said:
Does the ROM actually play any part in this though or is it just the RADIO upgrade? I've just gone over to 2.08 but using the stock HTC 1.66 ROM
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The Rom affects the sms issue (I believe) and my current LeoLite ROM (now 2.3) shows no sms problem and sits well with the radio I mentioned as it unlocks the extra memory.
Addendum
There is a link with ROM and radio through the rilphone.dll that is cooked in to the ROMs.
e.g. The correct rilphone for T-mobileUK will assist in accessing the T-mobile network with the correct protocols required for the services on that network. And same would go for all other operators (who may or may not have their own rilphone file configured to their requirements). I am unaware of any signature that would differentiate between the files, however, it's safe to assume that a rilphone.dll extracted from a stock T-mobileUK ROM would be the appropriate one for their network access.
I haven't seen a lot of experimentation on this although I have tried out various files on the ROMs I have flashed without any real conclusion emerging.
The combination that I mention is just a solid setup that works well for me on my operators network in my location.

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