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PIN Number Screen Locking with AKU2 Exchange Server security

Hi,
I am trying out AKU2 with Push e-mail for my organisation. I want to implement a security policy that forces a PIN number and locks the screen after a period of no use. All works fine, so far so good.
However when the device is actively in use for something like tomtom GPS, even when powered externally. the screen lock cuts in requiring you to enter the PIN whilst driving, which clearly makes it unusable for GPS or really even as a carphone (although voice dialling on a bluetooth headset works even with the screen locked)
Does anyone know of a solution to prevent the lock kicking in whilst on external power?
Thanks
Richard

I have the same problem here. It makes TomTom unuseable after 30 min. Mostly I'll drive a little further than that! :wink:
Does anyone else has this problem, and hopefully an solution?

This is another aspect of the upgrade that I hate (in addition to the fact that you can't get vibrating notifications of emails while the device is in standby).

It's a problem for a lot of people....
I've updated my Universal to the AKU ROM and I'm having the same problem with TomTom, iGuidance, and OncourseNavigator (aka. Navigon). I don't know of a solution yet. I'm hoping someone will write a little application that will allow the user to specify "if program 'a' is running, prevent the screen lock. When program 'a' shuts down (i.e. exits), then re-start the timer for the screen lock").
I'd be willing to pay a lot of money for an application like that right now....

Same Problem
Same problem here in the german QTek ROM.
What about collecting a bug-list (No vibration on push email, Lock screen problem....) in the forum and sending this to QTek?

Re: It's a problem for a lot of people....
weatheryoko said:
I've updated my Universal to the AKU ROM and I'm having the same problem with TomTom, iGuidance, and OncourseNavigator (aka. Navigon). I don't know of a solution yet. I'm hoping someone will write a little application that will allow the user to specify "if program 'a' is running, prevent the screen lock. When program 'a' shuts down (i.e. exits), then re-start the timer for the screen lock").
I'd be willing to pay a lot of money for an application like that right now....
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Is'nt it possible to make that same application to force a screenlock by pressing a hardkey? (on my work the phone is laying on my desk and i dont like that someone read my mail, msn or hotmail.
When there is an application which can do that, i don't have to use the automatic screenlock and there is no problem anymore when using Tom TOm

Re: It's a problem for a lot of people....
weatheryoko said:
I've updated my Universal to the AKU ROM and I'm having the same problem with TomTom, iGuidance, and OncourseNavigator (aka. Navigon). I don't know of a solution yet. I'm hoping someone will write a little application that will allow the user to specify "if program 'a' is running, prevent the screen lock. When program 'a' shuts down (i.e. exits), then re-start the timer for the screen lock").
I'd be willing to pay a lot of money for an application like that right now....
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Is'nt it possible to make that same application to force a screenlock by pressing a hardkey? (on my work the phone is laying on my desk and i dont like that someone read my mail, msn or hotmail.
When there is an application which can do that, i don't have to use the automatic screenlock and there is no problem anymore when using Tom TOm

>>When there is an application which can do that, i don't have to use the automatic screenlock
The problem with AKU2 policy is that the administrator of the exchange server decides whether you use the automatic screenlock and how long it locks after, the length of the password etc etc... The settings are greyed out after the 1st time you connect to your exchange server... so you no longer have a choice on the automatic screenlock...
R

rich.simpson said:
>>When there is an application which can do that, i don't have to use the automatic screenlock
The problem with AKU2 policy is that the administrator of the exchange server decides whether you use the automatic screenlock and how long it locks after, the length of the password etc etc... The settings are greyed out after the 1st time you connect to your exchange server... so you no longer have a choice on the automatic screenlock...
R
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And it even stays like that after you have deleted the exchangeserver!!!! :evil:
So watch out trying to connect to your companies server with your mobile device. I think a hardreset is the only way to get rid of this annoying pin. :evil:

Bypass forced password for push email

Hi All,
I set my 8125 up to synch with my work exchange server in order to keep my calendar and contacts up to date.
My work server enforces a device based password now frequently when I go to access the device I have to put in a password before it unlocks and I can access it's functions.
Anyone know how to disable the password requirement?
I am not talking about removing the password to connect to the exchange server, just the enforced password to access the device itself after it has been sitting idle for an hour or so.
I figure it has probably set registry values to control the password type, size and frequency it has to be entered as well as enabling/disabling it.
Anyone have any knowledge of how this is implemented on WM5 with push email?

http://www.zenyee.com/

Bypass push email password
Perect!
Thanks

Could someone post a more direct answer to this question? I can't find anything on zenyee to address this....
Thanks!
EDIT: Never mind - I found the "Zenyee.com Stay Unlock.zip" utility here: http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13030&page=2. (attached in case it disappears again!)

StayUnlock
More info can be found on this at
http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13030
Zenyee StayUnlock worked fine for me until I upgraded to an 8525. Now I am not sure if it is working or not. Once it informed me that the security policy was being applied but I have not seen it since and occasionally when I turn on the phone I have to enter a password. It happens every time if I power the phone all the way off and then on again.
I just modified the lock timeout to be 24 hours so that might help.
In order to access that setting you may have to modify a registry key to make the option availabe. I had to do this on my 8125 but the 8525 already had the key set. Details of that key change are in the same thread of the link above.

Working on 8925?
Can anyone get this thing to work on an 8925?
I installed the Cab Zenyee.comStayUnlock.cab
I see StayUnlock in the Startup Items Folder.
I see Zenyee.comStayUnlock in the "Remove Programs" window.
I have checked my registry and it is already set to 1.
I still get the prompt for password every 20 minutes.
Do I need to do anything besides install this cab (since my registry is already set properly)? I keep reading that people are "modifying the lock timeout". What does that mean and how do you do it? Heck, changing this to once every 24 hrs is MUCH better than every 20 minutes.
Robert

Nevermind. I just found out where the "password settings" was. (settings > personal tab > lock). I've set that to 24 hours. We'll see if Stay Unlock keeps that from prompting me every 24 hrs.
Robert

I installed the .cab file that I found on here and I was very pleased with the results
I then cooked it into my ROM and am still pleased
One thing that was slightly nagging me however was the notification you get when the policy is reapplied. For some reason our IT dept have configured the policy to refresh every hour, which I can obviously bypass with this excellent utility. Unfortunately every hour there is a notification and a (slightly) annoying bleep as the utility kicks in. Not that noticable but still a bit annoying.
Anyway I went direct to the site (http://www.zenyee.com/) of the developer and found a newer version (2.0) that operates in silent mode by default
Excellent..... Hope our IT dept don't find out

ADB100 said:
I installed the .cab file that I found on here and I was very pleased with the results
I then cooked it into my ROM and am still pleased
One thing that was slightly nagging me however was the notification you get when the policy is reapplied. For some reason our IT dept have configured the policy to refresh every hour, which I can obviously bypass with this excellent utility. Unfortunately every hour there is a notification and a (slightly) annoying bleep as the utility kicks in. Not that noticable but still a bit annoying.
Anyway I went direct to the site (http://www.zenyee.com/) of the developer and found a newer version (2.0) that operates in silent mode by default
Excellent..... Hope our IT dept don't find out
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i personally would be more concerned about IT telling HR.
As an IT Admin i can say those policies are there as much to protect corporate info as to annoy end users.

Stay Unlocked
I've been using this little app for 2 years since my Kaiser days and I love it. Now they got a new version which doesn't prompt security at all!

deedee said:
i personally would be more concerned about IT telling HR.
As an IT Admin i can say those policies are there as much to protect corporate info as to annoy end users.
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That's true and reasonable, but at the same time you have no chance to modify the applied settings temporarily, even when it causes more trouble than maintains security. Just an example: You use your PDA for car navigation. Chances that it will be stolen while you are driving are extremely low, but it is very dangerous to enter a PIN every 15-20 minutes during driving. For these occasional situations it is very useful to override default policy settings and set PIN activation interval to several hours instead of minutes.

Completely agree on this. I could have lived with the lock policy when the device stayed unlocked when plugged in, but keying a PIN while driving should not be done.
I had the same issue before with Blackberry Connect. Last friday I switched to ActiveSync push synchronization and stumbled into the WM lockscreen issue.
Zenyee's tool seems (just using it for some hours) to work on WM 6.5.x (23xxx build) Energy ROM.

Password lock after synchronize with microsoft exchange

Hi guys,
I hope I can put my question here
My problem is after I synchronized my TyTn with my computer at work, there's automaticly a password lock set for 5 minutes. So If I don't do anything after 5 minutes my screen will lock and he'll ask my password. I have also TomTom on my TyTn and if I'm running it, the screen will also lock after 5 min and when I'm driving my car and want to see the directions on my display and not the password screen
I can't turn off the password in the settings/lock screen. Is there some other way to disable the password screen or change the time from 5 min to 30 min? Maybe through changes in the registry?
Hope anyone can help me!
Greetz,
Sander

You need to have a higher security policy than exchnage does to alter the password. I belive that the keys are protected in the metabase by the manager role...
You could always write an app which mimics the touch being touched every 4:30?

Too many pattern attempts. (Solved!)

This is the second time I've had this issue so i thought i'd post it.
Basically what happened was my phone was in my pocket and it locked itself out. I had pattern lock enabled so i was getting "Too many pattern attempts. please login" No matter how i put my information in username (by itself), [email protected], [email protected] it wouldn't authenticate me. The first time it happened to me i posted the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485903
No matter what i did i was not able to get in so i just reflashed the phone. After a reflash the authentication worked fine. At that time I was using one of JFs ROMS so i figured that may have been the issue. Recently the problem happened again. This time i was using one of Cyanogens ROMS. This time instead of flashing the phone i followed haykuro's thread to defeat pattern lock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485988
once i did those adb commands and rebooted the phone it asked to authenticate again but this time it worked! After it authenticates it will ask you for a new unlock pattern. And you're all set! hopefully it works for you. This is a really annoying problem and im surprised more people aren't having it.

Figured it out without hard reset!!! htc hero " too many pattern attempts"
I figured out a way to get past the screen lock "too many attempts" problem without doing a hard reset on my phone.
I called my Phone (from my Skype account so I could get to the notifications pull down. (couldn't get to home screen or setting from the call) But, I could pull down my notifications. I had a "new email" notification so I clicked on it so that my gmail would open. I then opened an email that had a URL link in it and I clicked on the link. This then opened my browser, which tried to open the link but, it couldn't because, I was still on my Skype call. This prompted the browser to give me an error message that had a Settings button. I clicked on the settings button and was able to turn on my wi-fi and connect to my home network ( I couldn't get to any other settings). At this point I pulled down my notifications again and clicked on the sign in failure notification and this time my phone was able to authenticate my gmail password, through the wi-fi connection.
FYI, I had to go to gmail and change my password as I'd forgotten it. If you don't remember your password you'll have to go through the gmail, I forgot my password/reset process.
If you have email notifications turned off, I think you can send a URL link through with a text message but, I've never done that. Maybe someone else can chime in on how to do that. It's probably pretty simple.
Lemme know if this works for you.

cjayl said:
I figured out a way to get past the screen lock "too many attempts" problem without doing a hard reset on my phone.
I called my Phone (from my Skype account so I could get to the notifications pull down. (couldn't get to home screen or setting from the call) But, I could pull down my notifications. I had a "new email" notification so I clicked on it so that my gmail would open. I then opened an email that had a URL link in it and I clicked on the link. This then opened my browser, which tried to open the link but, it couldn't because, I was still on my Skype call. This prompted the browser to give me an error message that had a Settings button. I clicked on the settings button and was able to turn on my wi-fi and connect to my home network ( I couldn't get to any other settings). At this point I pulled down my notifications again and clicked on the sign in failure notification and this time my phone was able to authenticate my gmail password, through the wi-fi connection.
FYI, I had to go to gmail and change my password as I'd forgotten it. If you don't remember your password you'll have to go through the gmail, I forgot my password/reset process.
If you have email notifications turned off, I think you can send a URL link through with a text message but, I've never done that. Maybe someone else can chime in on how to do that. It's probably pretty simple.
Lemme know if this works for you.
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Sounds like one hell of a flaw in the security to me. I actually hope that this gets fixed sometime in the near future.

I had this problem on a HTC Hero I could not run sqlite3 ont he command line for permissions so the second thread did not work for me. But did not want to flash my phone, this is how I solved it.
Take out the battery, OFF button does not work.
Take out the SD card.
Plugin the USB cable to the phone and turn the phone back on.
Download the Android SDK
untar to a new directory
run
./tools/adb -d shell
To get a shell open, you do not need to be root.
You should get a $ prompt, indicating you are not root
Make a call from another phone to the blocked phone and answer the call.
Then run the following command.
$ am start -a android.settings.SETTINGS -n com.android.settings/com.android.settings.Settings
This will bring the Settings window to the front so you can then disable the screen lock, thus proving that the screen lock facility not a security feature.
Screen lock is still useful so you don't make unintentional phone calls.

easier method
You can also enter your username, and in the password field just enter the string "null"

Unlock Pattern BUG without Hard reset - SOLVED

Finally figured out how to bypass that annoying email/password screen, i think this could help many peoples who do not want to Hard reset their gphone :
- Make a call to your gphone and respond.
- Just after closing the call, push repeatedely on "Home" button and there you are,
it works ... but it's not the case, we have some other things to do ...
- First, go to settings and disable that buggy Unlock Pattern feature.
- The problem is not yet solved, the buggy login/pass screen is still here hidden
somewhere, and will go back if you put your phone on sleep mode (disable screen
autoshutdown to keep your phone awake and your time with next tricks.
- Go to the gmail website and reset your password with a new one.
- After few seconds (you could also force a mail sync) Android will show you a small
triangle on the top status bar to warn you that you have to re-enter the new password
you have setup on gmail. After entering the new password, sync with google will be ok.
You can after that push the power to go back to that crappy email/password screen and
enter your email and new password, but that time the authentication will be
successful and your Android will be completely unlocked.
Hope this helped a lot of users like me.... give me feedback if it worked...
And sorry for my crappy English..