I've had my Qtek 9000 for a week. I've spent most of that week installing software, and getting it setup (using a lot of useful info from this site).
This afternoon it locked up, and wouldn't respond to any button presses (including the on/off button)
Soft resets result in it powering backon, but stopping at the boot screen, after displaying the ROM versions in red text.
Eventually, I tried a hard-reset. Same thing happens - process goes ok until it displays the ROM version, when it just sits there. I've tried removing the SD card and SIM card and hard-resetting. No Joy.
I had just installed OzVGA, and was testing it when this occurred, but that is probably just a coincidence (surely a hardreset should fix anything bad that happened there?)
I hadn't at any point played with the ROM.
What should I try next?
And, does anyone know if I'm going to be able to get support for this in the US from Qtek? (I bought it in the UK), new
Thanks in advance.
-Steve
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Have you try taking out the battery, leave it for a while, put back the battery and do a hard reset?
It may work
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FOSA said:
Have you try taking out the battery, leave it for a while, put back the battery and do a hard reset?
It may work
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Unfortunately, no such luck
I'd tried that before, but the battery was only out for a short time. This time it was been out for at least 15 minutes.
Does anyone know if there's any kind of hardware or diagnostic test mode it can be booted into?
-Steve
How about updating/upgrading thr ROM?
This might work. you'll have to reinstall everything again, though
Jorgee said:
How about updating/upgrading thr ROM?
This might work. you'll have to reinstall everything again, though
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Thanks - I may try that tomorrow. However, I'm a little concerned that updating it with a new ROM might invalidate the warranty (especially if it's not a QTEK ROM)
I was hoping that there was some kind of hidden 'diagnostic mode' I could try first, before taking that step. I've also been looking everywhere on the web, and I can't find anyone else that this has happened to. This makes me think it may be a hardware problem, though the way it just 'happened' seems more like s/ware.
Anyway, I'm out today so this will have to wait until tomorrow. My biggest concern at the moment is how I'm going to get any warranty support in the US. All I have at the moment is a very expensive brick!
-Steve
Have you tried entering bootloader mode?
BACKLIGHT BUTTON + POWER BUTTON + RESET HOLE
Then the screen will go blank then show the words SERIAL but you have to look real good because the backlight will be off when the serial is displayed. If it does go there, try hard resetting from there:
__ + __ + RESET HOLE
Hope this helps. WHat's your ROM verison/language anyway?
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Have you tried entering bootloader mode?
BACKLIGHT BUTTON + POWER BUTTON + RESET HOLE
Then the screen will go blank then show the words SERIAL but you have to look real good because the backlight will be off when the serial is displayed. If it does go there, try hard resetting from there:
__ + __ + RESET HOLE
Hope this helps. WHat's your ROM verison/language anyway?
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Thanks - but no improvement. I do get the 'serial' screen (with v1.00 displayed at the bottom), but when I do _+_+reset from there, it just goes back to the 'normal' Qtek boot screen and sits there.
Unfortunately, not having access to the OS, I don't know exactly the ROM versions etc. However, the info displayed in red text on the Qtek boot screen (where it hangs) is as follows. How do you interpret this?
R 1.03.00
G 42.36.P8
D 1.13.64 WWE
Thanks for your help - I'm hoping I can get this resolved without having to find out how to get support from Qtek!
-Steve
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Jorgee said:
Have you tried entering bootloader mode?
BACKLIGHT BUTTON + POWER BUTTON + RESET HOLE
Then the screen will go blank then show the words SERIAL but you have to look real good because the backlight will be off when the serial is displayed. If it does go there, try hard resetting from there:
__ + __ + RESET HOLE
Hope this helps. WHat's your ROM verison/language anyway?
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Thanks - but no improvement. I do get the 'serial' screen (with v1.00 displayed at the bottom), but when I do _+_+reset from there, it just goes back to the 'normal' Qtek boot screen and sits there.
Unfortunately, not having access to the OS, I don't know exactly the ROM versions etc. However, the info displayed in red text on the Qtek boot screen (where it hangs) is as follows. How do you interpret this?
R 1.03.00
G 42.36.P8
D 1.13.64 WWE
Thanks for your help - I'm hoping I can get this resolved without having to find out how to get support from Qtek!
-Steve
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You have a WWE (English QTEK ROM) but since you cannot enter bootloader mode, I don't think you will be able to update. You might have to return your device to where you bought it
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You have a WWE (English QTEK ROM) but since you cannot enter bootloader mode, I don't think you will be able to update. You might have to return your device to where you bought it
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Jorgee,
I notice (in the HTC 'confidential' manual I just downloaded) that there is a diagnostic program. Apparently, I put it on an SD card, and do Power+Backlight+reset to invoke it.
Do you know if that diagnostic tool is available anywhere on here, or elsewhere on the web?
Also - I wqas trying to find exactly how to enter 'bootloader' mode (after I have the 'serial' screen). Should it boot differently from here when doing a hware reset (_+_+reset)?
Regards
Steve
Actually, when you see SERIAL, that means you are already in bootloader mode. One question, what ROM do you wanna update to? QTEK, IMATE, MDA, O2?
Do the following once you get the SERIAL ON THE SCREEN:
1. Open active SYNC, then choose FILE>CONNECTION SETTINGS, then remove the check on the USB option.
2. Connect the phone to the computer with the sync cable. This should change the SERIAL on the device to say USB.
3. Run the ROM Upgrade (whichever it is you chose).
This shoulod update your device. If you are able to enter bootloader mode (SERIAL) this means that probably your ROM (OS) is damaged. Just update it even to the same verison then it should work.
If you get Country ID error while trying to update or any other error, just inform me, i'll walk you through the process.
Jorgee said:
Actually, when you see SERIAL, that means you are already in bootloader mode. One question, what ROM do you wanna update to? QTEK, IMATE, MDA, O2?
Do the following once you get the SERIAL ON THE SCREEN:
1. Open active SYNC, then choose FILE>CONNECTION SETTINGS, then remove the check on the USB option.
2. Connect the phone to the computer with the sync cable. This should change the SERIAL on the device to say USB.
3. Run the ROM Upgrade (whichever it is you chose).
This shoulod update your device. If you are able to enter bootloader mode (SERIAL) this means that probably your ROM (OS) is damaged. Just update it even to the same verison then it should work.
If you get Country ID error while trying to update or any other error, just inform me, i'll walk you through the process.
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Hi Jorgee,
I'd prefer to go for the QTEK Rom (I'm assuming, from the info I posted above that I currently have 1.13.64 WWE). I'd like to go for the same or later version of this, but looking on the ftp site here I can't see ay QTEK ROM upgraders.
I have checked that when I plug in the USB I get 'USB' appearing on the screen, so I'm hoping that a ROM upgrade will at least work, even if it doesn't fix my problem.
One other thing that concerns me. When I plug into USB (with either a PC or the AC charger) the LEDs aren't lighting to indicate it's charging. Obviously, when during the flash upgrade I should make sure I have a reasonably charged battery. However, I don't know if I do (or even if it's currently charging).
-Steve
I guess leave it charged using the AC adapter for an hours, then here's the QTEK ROM.
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]/Universal
Under Shipped ROM's you should see the QTEK.
If you cannot find it, tell me, ill send it to you. Trying to avoid this because it is almost 60MB in size
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I guess leave it charged using the AC adapter for an hours, then here's the QTEK ROM.
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]/Universal
Under Shipped ROM's you should see the QTEK.
If you cannot find it, tell me, ill send it to you. Trying to avoid this because it is almost 60MB in size
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Thanks - I'd already found it on the devbuzz site, and am currently giving the unit an hour or two's charge before trying this. Wish me luck!!
-Steve
OK, here's what happened when I tried to update with the same Qtek firmware:
Initial dialog (that shows old and new (to be installed) firmware versions had blanks for all three firmware versions currently installed.
Started the upgrade, and left it running (couldn't bear the tension of watching!). Came back, and found the following error message displayed:
"Error 113: Extended ROM Update Error"
The update tool indicated that I should 'try again'. I'm currently re-charging the unit, and hoping (against hope) that this error was caused by insufficent battery charge.
-Steve
Okay, but maybe it just didn't update the extended ROM but the OS rom has been updated properly. After this error, try the __ + __ + reset button and see if it does boot fine.
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Okay, but maybe it just didn't update the extended ROM but the OS rom has been updated properly. After this error, try the __ + __ + reset button and see if it does boot fine.
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No luck.
I've also tried re-flashing a second time, but this time I watched it to see what happens
As the radio firmware is flashing, a message to that effect is shown on the Qtek screen. Once that is finished, the upgrade tool starts the extended ROM flash. At that time the Qtek's screen goes completely blank. The, after a minute or two, the upgrade tool reports that the extended ROM failed to upgrade.
I am assuming that normally, while flashing the extended ROM, there's a message on the phone's screen to say what's going on?
I'm also wondering whether to have a go at flashing the ROM in one of the other ways?
-Steve
I heard sometimes just flashing the Radio only might work.... Then after that you can flash the rest. Just extract the contents of the ROM to a directory. Take note of the ff:
Radio : radio_.nbf
OS : nk_.nbf
Ext : ms_.nbf
I just rename/move/delete the MS and NK files then run the update
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I heard sometimes just flashing the Radio only might work.... Then after that you can flash the rest. Just extract the contents of the ROM to a directory. Take note of the ff:
Radio : radio_.nbf
OS : nk_.nbf
Ext : ms_.nbf
I just rename/move/delete the MS and NK files then run the update
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Thanks Jorgee. Still no real success, but I think I might be getting closer.
I've tried the above (using both the original romupdate_ut.exe and MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe - same results with both).
I've tried each of the three files individually (using the ones from the shipped ROM, as downloaded above)
radio_.nbf always seems to flash ok
ms_.nbf always fails right at the start, and nothing appears on the phone's screen
nk.nbf almost worked. It started, and got up to 87% (tried this 3 times), with the update showing on both the phone screen and PC. Then it failed with error 112, leaving the '87% complete' message on the phone's screen.
Soft or hard reboots still result in us just ending up 'hung' at the boot screen.
Once again, thanks for your help so far. However, I am beginning to give up hope!
-Steve
I have the same problem with my Dopod 900 at post http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=207524#207524
But mine is no problem with EXTRom Upgrade
Waiting for your advise!
Thanks
truongia said:
I have the same problem with my Dopod 900 at post http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=207524#207524
But mine is no problem with EXTRom Upgrade
Waiting for your advise!
Thanks
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I wish I had a solution!!! I've spent about 20 hours trying to get this thing to boot!
One question though - how did you get the 'boot option' menu up (allowing you to clear the registry etc). I might try that on mine (I had assumed that a hard reset ALWAYS cleared the registry.
Given that I was playing around with ozvga before this happened, there's a small chance that might help (though I think not; as I can't see how that would also stop the flash update working)
-Steve
Hi all,
Since last friday I'm the happy owner of an S200, until sunday atleast. After a soft-reset, initiated from windows, my device won't boot anymore. It hangs in the red-green-blue bootloader screen (says: IPL 2.09, SPL 2.09). I've tried soft-resets and hard-resets, but the device would consequently keep hanging in the bootloader.
So for the past few days I've been searching the web and just managed to update the ROM. I was expecting that updating the ROM succesfully would mean my device would boot again, but it still keeps hanging in the bootloader (saying IPL 2.09 SPL 2.15 now, so the update did take place).
Does anyone has any idea whats wrong with my phone? Or how to fix this? Please help.
* bump *
I've been searching further and tried to do a SD dump, but I'm getting the message I don't got enough rights to perform a SD dump. This meens my S200 isn't CID unlocked. Is there any way to CID unlock the device without the need of booting into WM?
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Hello, if you are having bootloader screen right after starting your mobile (prophet) check if your camera button is depressed since i had the similar problem. In my case i had to disassembly the phone in order to fix it. Right after fixing the button it worked fine
hi syzzer,
i really feel with you - why? - i have the exactly same problem. after i tried to upgrade my rom from o2-germany to another one the device isn't starting anymore and hangs in the beautiful-colored bootloader. and now, if i just even want to re-install the same or another rom, doesnt matter which one, the s200 wont start again. i think this is a really unlucky situation for us to stand alone with our weak pda =) hoping for more help, otherwise we have to take up our warranty and try to get it fixed by the store we did buy it (if a rom-update damage is still in warranty )
good luck
budy!
awechris said:
Hello, if you are having bootloader screen right after starting your mobile (prophet) check if your camera button is depressed since i had the similar problem. In my case i had to disassembly the phone in order to fix it. Right after fixing the button it worked fine
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in my case, the camera button is not pressed in... i truly don't know what to do hopeless? mhm?
greets!
budy!
hello Syzzer
I have the same problem, but i make a soft reset and it works.
Camera but + Com Button + Power
Wait until message appear.
You Get the message : For Hard reset press send
If you choose other key the system boots normaly.
I had already tried all your suggestions, but nothing seemed to work.
About a month ago I bought a Trinity. In the mean while, I forgot I had put my S200 in my bag and carried it around for a month. When I found it a week ago and started pressing random buttons, it suddenly booted and has been working ever since! The problem has gone as mysterious as it came. I can only imagine there was some hardware failure / dirt in my device that caused the trouble and is now gone / moved to some place it does not do harm. Because I already bought a Trinity, I gave the S200 to my brother. He's been using it ever since and did not have any problems. So keep your head up, there's hope!
I m also having the same problem
Now I am having the same problem, no button is pressed, and I can not install the NVID ROM
Actually I can install only a few ROMs, the NVID ROM was working before on my Neo perfectly but, I think it can be because I have changed many ROMs, from a month, actually I have tried different WM6 ROMs and I used NVID ROMs mostly for Step 1.
Now when I install any ROM, it shows a msg some nbf one after 80% or 95%
It can install the pdaviet first step ROM, but now the problem is that it hangs very much and it can not start Wifi, it has stopped working, a few more ROMs i have tried, but the WIFI is completely stopped.
When I press it in communication manager, it will show busy icon for a few seconds and will not start it in end.(I tried it in both WM5 and WM6, same problem, I also tried after soft reset and hard reset, the problem is still there)
Please someone help me out.
hi, i am in need of som serios help, im a total noob n i flashed my first ROM with Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.21905.5.0.93_2.13_Radio_2.10.50.26_HG_V3.4.exe
i then last night decided i wanted to switch over to Miri_Steve0007_Elegancia_V8.5
and now the phone will not reset and has a million crashes! iv been trying to go back to the Dutty ROM bt it dosnt let me. can som1 upload what it is that i need to get the dutty rom bak. thank u in advance
when you say crashing, can you give a bit more info? is it locking on a cirtain screen? or in a constant reboot?
you may want to also read through a few of the stickys as if you use the search you most likley will find the cause.
RE: HELP!
More info would be appreciated but I've had issues before and did this:
Performing a factory reset using phone buttons
If you cannot turn on your phone or access the phone settings, you can still perform a factory reset by using buttons on the phone.
With your phone powered off, press and hold the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons.
While holding the volume buttons, press the END/POWER button briefly and then release it.
When you see a warning message on screen, release the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons.
Press the VOLUME UP button to perform the reset, or press any other button to cancel the reset.
From that my phone turned on and I was able to create an activesync connection again to flash another ROM.
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hi, i am in need of som serios help, im a total noob n i flashed my first ROM with Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.21905.5.0.93_2.13_Radio_2.10.50.26_HG_V3.4.exe
i then last night decided i wanted to switch over to Miri_Steve0007_Elegancia_V8.5
and now the phone will not reset and has a million crashes! iv been trying to go back to the Dutty ROM bt it dosnt let me. can som1 upload what it is that i need to get the dutty rom bak. thank u in advance
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I flashed many roms and never experience like that as long as you do it as per instruction/ guide in the relevant ROM.
I would suggest you to go into bootloader screen (turn of you phone, then press vol up and down together with the power on button).
Install HSPL (only if you havent installed it), perform task 29, flash the radio (check the radio version required by the ROM), and flash the ROM you want.
Everytime the process reach 100%, you press the vol down button to go into bootloader screen so you dont need to pull out the battery or the cable (but for the last process (flashing the rom), you should press vol down and up together (it will go to hard reset). And for better result, please make sure your battery above 50% and use win xp.
Hope you can solve it.