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Resize menubar in jasjar?

Is there a reg key to reduce the size of the sip panel/menubar in the jasjar
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In short....No.
You could have a go with the VGA hack though, that'd do the trick...?

SPB Tips and Tricks has this as an option, it is not free though.

found this
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip|MenuBarHeight
changing the dword does nothing though!

The SIP panel is one size only. You can't resize it - it would leave holes on the sides. The only way is if you run your device at VGA resolution, which makes EVERYTHING smaller.
The sizes in the top and bottom are similarly hard coded in Shell.exe. The devices are supposed to look a certain way on set resolutions. It's not like the menubars in Windows that you can reduce or enlarge, unfortunately.
It is sad, though, so lose so much potential space on the screen. That is why some people prefer to run VGA devices in the hacked VGA modes.

Soft Keyboard for Athena?

Has anyone played around with SPB's FullScreen Keyboard and the Athena instead of using the hardware keyboard that it comes with?
Would be nice to reduce the "size" of what fits in my pocket....
Thanks in advance.

benmorris said:
Has anyone played around with SPB's FullScreen Keyboard and the Athena instead of using the hardware keyboard that it comes with?
Would be nice to reduce the "size" of what fits in my pocket....
Thanks in advance.
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I played with that on my old PDA which was only 3.5". It did not work very well because the screen is too small for two hand typing. I don't yet have a HTC Anthena/Dopod U1000, but my guess is that it would work perfectly given the larger screen size.

benmorris said:
Has anyone played around with SPB's FullScreen Keyboard and the Athena instead of using the hardware keyboard that it comes with?
Would be nice to reduce the "size" of what fits in my pocket....
Thanks in advance.
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Well I'm using Fitaly and I find that it's a little bit too big for Athena. I need to find a way to reduce the size of Fitaly just by 30%.

Look for Happy tapping keyboard
Happy tapping key board works great. Select the vga bmp's. I find the tiger skin quite nice.

If you're going to install ozVGA or MvRTrueVGA, then as far as I know your only choice is Resco Keyboard. ( edit: tengo does vga too)
If you're going to stay with QVGA, and are looking for full screen keybaord, then apart from SPb, you might want to try Hikeyboard. I like Hikeyboard instead of Spb more. The reasons are:
1) Hikeyboard gives you the solution as non-full screen as well as full screen input.
2) In the full screen mode, you have the ability to see the whole page of what you're typing, whereas with Spb you have to get out of it to reveal the document.
It's just unfortunate that they don't have a VGA version.
I think you may also want to consider Ten-go. I dismissed this initially, but now I think I'm going to look at it seriously. Even if it does not support VGA mode it will still be very useable ( edit: it supports vga mode!) because there are only 6 keys to press. It works very much like the predictive text of your mobile phone when you do SMS. Very fast and very few keystroke.

Anyone have screenshots of a sof tkeyboard on the actual device?

eaglesteve said:
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If you're going to stay with QVGA, and are looking for full screen keybaord, then apart from SPb, you might want to try Hikeyboard. I like Hikeyboard instead of Spb more.
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..stay with QVGA on the Athena? Am I missing something?

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..stay with QVGA on the Athena? Am I missing something?
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ha ha.. how shall I put it? Lets just say that i'm still using both modes depending in situation. I hve quite bad eyesight so I can't see some icons and fonts.
If u hve 20/20 eyesight, go for the tiny icons and fonts. If i'm reading a large document at home, I put it in front of my face without glasses and use true vga. web browsing is done always with true vga. But if i'm recording golf score the icon in qvga works better for me. In summary, I use both, with the mode toggle program from Mark Vale.
after extensive evaluation, i've found the best soft keyboard - the tengo keyboard. It supports both qvga and vga mode.
Very briefly, you may think of it as a qwert keyboard which does not expect you to be a sharp shooter. you can type in exactly the same way as the default keyboard, but if you miss-type it will stillgive you the word you want.
Check it out at www.free.tengo.net. They have a free version for personal use. I'm using it with mvrtruevga and you can even type with your finger without the stylus fast speed!
There is very very very very low learning curve.

eaglesteve said:
ha ha.. how shall I put it? Lets just say that i'm still using both modes depending in situation. I hve quite bad eyesight so I can't see some icons and fonts.
If u hve 20/20 eyesight, go for the tiny icons and fonts. If i'm reading a large document at home, I put it in front of my face without glasses and use true vga. web browsing is done always with true vga. But if i'm recording golf score the icon in qvga works better for me. In summary, I use both, with the mode toggle program from Mark Vale.
after extensive evaluation, i've found the best soft keyboard - the tengo keyboard. It supports both qvga and vga mode.
Very briefly, you may think of it as a qwert keyboard which does not expect you to be a sharp shooter. you can type in exactly the same way as the default keyboard, but if you miss-type it will stillgive you the word you want.
Check it out at www.free.tengo.net. They have a free version for personal use. I'm using it with mvrtruevga and you can even type with your finger without the stylus fast speed!
There is very very very very low learning curve.
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How would you get your Athena to show QVGA?

QVGA & VGA....
ecsk2 said:
How would you get your Athena to show QVGA?
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The Athenas true resolution is QVGA 320x240 stretched to 640x480. This is why everything looks the same (sizewise) on a smaller QVGA device like say the HTC Hermes or HTC Wizrd.
It's not until you use a 3rd party application that you get the True VGA dimensions on your 'so called' VGA device and you get to appreciate all the screen real-estate (if you're the type to have lots of info on your screen, you'll soon see the benefits).
Personally I'm happy now with the Athena's default resolution with WA3 giving me 15 shortcut icons in the bottom system tray.
It's about choice. With a VGA device you have these options, but with smaller QVGA devices, icons would be too small to be useful if one applied the TrueVGA software to it (that's if the app would even work on a small QVGA PPC).
Hope that helps a bit.

MvRTrueVGA problems

Hi, after installing MarkVan's true VGA package in this link
http://www.jaml.com/MvRTrueVGA/, I have identified the following issues that I'm still unable to solved. I thought that a special thread to address specifically problems after this installation might be helpful.
I'll start by first listing what I've identified as problems:
1) setting>system>backlight screen could not be used. This problem is serious, as somehow by default, the backlight is switched off after just a few seconds in true VGA mode. Even if I try, using QVGA mode to change it such that backlight will not be switched off, as soon as I toggle back to the true VGA mode, it is switched off after 10 seconds again.
2)setting>system>clear storage screen is garbed. It is difficult to make up what the input instruction are in performing hard reset. Not critical but would be nice if the screen could be fixed.
3)setting>system>power screen is garbed due to wrong sized icon. This is minor problem.
4) Setting>system>TV out screen title has the wrong font. Minor problem
5) Setting>system>VueFLO screen title has wrong sized font. Minor problem
6)setting>connection>comm manager screen is garbed. Not being able to control the connection could be quite a problem. In this application, the Settins>Wireless LAN screen is also garbed. I can solve this problem by installing Commmgrpro to give exactly the same functionality, however. Therefore, I would say this is not really an issue. But would be nice if someone already know how to solve this.
7)setting>connection>wireless Lan heading and the screen is garbed. The screen could not be used. The font sizes within all tabs are of wrong sizes. Again, CommmgrPro solves this problem by replacing this.
8)setting>personal>phone (pin2 and "more" tab) are garbed
9) Phone. Although I've applied VJbigpohne, I'm somehow unable to get exactly the same effect as what vj has in his screen shot. His screen shot showed that the numbers are nicely sitting in the centre of the phone buttons and the phone stretches all the way to the bottom of the screen. Mine looks different and ugly. The numbers are sitting to the extreme right edge of the buttons and there is a blank space at the bottom of the screen. I would like to fix this to look good
10) Spb GPRS monitor plugin has wrong sized font. As a result, I cannot see the download speed of my connection. The main application itself, which shows in chart form the usage has no problem. I have been looking for another product that works fully under VGA mode to replace the Spb GPRS monitor, but none of them gives me the download speed (They only shows the total MB downloaded, but not the Kbps info)
11)Pocket music. In landscape mode the option and playlist buttons are missing. In portrait mode there is no such problem. edit: this is not the vga problem,as it also behaves the same way I'm qvga mode.
12) Software Input Panel, or the soft keyboards, are soooo small, that they are unuseable. The standard big keyboard was nice as I can use my finger to type it without covering up the screen. If it is not possible to use the original soft keyboard, then I would like to use the HiKeyboard, because this keyboard has the ability to also do the job the the Spb full keyboard, as well as provide a calculator keypad. I like Hikeyboard the best, among all the ones I've evaluated. However, with MvrTrueVGA, I'd be forced to use only the resco keyboard. I prefer not to pay for resco keyboard, and to pay for Spb full keyboard, when I can just pay for Hikeyboard. I also much prefer HiKeyboard over Spb Full keyboard because it has the option to reveal what you have typed without exiting the full keyboard. Coming to the worst I'd get the Resco Keyboard although it is not as good as the Hikeyboard, so I supposed this is not the most seriuos matter.
13) Quick GPS program does not display correctly, and at the bottom of the screen display does not reach all the way to the edge of the screen. It looks ugly. Also, you can't see vital date and validity information on this screen.
14) Pocket Mechanics - The icons are too big and the characters are too small. It look real ugly as compared to the QVGA appearance.
15) My VOIP client SJPhone does not stretch all the way to the bottom. In landscape mode, the bottom part of the applications are cut off, while it leaves a big hole on the right. EDIT: qvga display landscape mode is also faulty I'm the same way.
16) In QVGA mode, my H and G indicator for data download has disappeared under true VGA mode. In place of the H (which means HSDPA connection is available), it shows the "connection is active" indicator instead.
In place of "HSDPA is in use" indicator, it shows just the signal strength without indicating whether I'm on a UMTS or HSDPA connection.
There might be more problems with other applications which I have not listed, and if you know of any, please add them in as a repository for all of us to look at.
It is possible that some of you have got solutions to the above problems.
If so, let's post the solution here, quoting the problem number if you can.
Thanks guys and gals

I'm not sure (and I'm happy if I'm wrong) but I think the best answer is:
"Yeah, but what'cha gonna do..."
WM5 is not intended to be used in full 640x480 mode, roumors will have it that WM6 is. So let's keep our hopes up.
But you obviously have more problems than me. Most screens are good and readable for me, except the phone (before applying VJBigPhone), Clear Storage, QuickGPS and the G/E/U/H icons + signal level. Of all these, the GEUH and signal level indicator is the only thing I "need" fixed (I can live with the rest).

Moskus said:
I'm not sure (and I'm happy if I'm wrong) but I think the best answer is:
"Yeah, but what'cha gonna do..."
WM5 is not intended to be used in full 640x480 mode, roumors will have it that WM6 is. So let's keep our hopes up.
But you obviously have more problems than me. Most screens are good and readable for me, except the phone (before applying VJBigPhone), Clear Storage, QuickGPS and the G/E/U/H icons + signal level. Of all these, the GEUH and signal level indicator is the only thing I "need" fixed (I can live with the rest).
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Hi Moskus,
Thanks for the reply.
May I get more specific about what you're having?
a) You mean your soft input panel (on screen keyboard) is not too tiny? Are you using Resco keyboard to overcome the problem? Are you able to use the standard with no problem?
b) Your backlight adjustment screen is okay? Using the standard or replacement which consumes additional memory?
c) What about yout comm manger screen? Are you still using the standard or using a replacement which takes up more memory?
d) Your phone does not leave a hole at the bottom after VJbigpohne is applied? The characters on the keys are centered or also to the edge? I saw VJ555's screen shot and its as beautiful as the standard. Mine is aweful looking, although it works. Are you having the perfect looking screen just like VJ555's or are you putting up with the less than perfect looking screen?
e) Do you use SPbGPRS monitor? When you click the task bar icon, does the pop up screen display correctly? Or are you not using this?
f) Your quick GPS is displaying okay?
g) What is your ROM version?
h) What it your os language?
Thank you for sharing these information.

eaglesteve said:
Hi Moskus,
Thanks for the reply.
May I get more specific about what you're having?
a) You mean your soft input panel (on screen keyboard) is not too tiny? Are you using Resco keyboard to overcome the problem? Are you able to use the standard with no problem?
b) Your backlight adjustment screen is okay? Using the standard or replacement which consumes additional memory?
c) What about yout comm manger screen? Are you still using the standard or using a replacement which takes up more memory?
d) Your phone does not leave a hole at the bottom after VJbigpohne is applied? The characters on the keys are centered or also to the edge? I saw VJ555's screen shot and its as beautiful as the standard. Mine is aweful looking, although it works. Are you having the perfect looking screen just like VJ555's or are you putting up with the less than perfect looking screen?
e) Do you use SPbGPRS monitor? When you click the task bar icon, does the pop up screen display correctly? Or are you not using this?
f) Your quick GPS is displaying okay?
g) What is your ROM version?
h) What it your os language?
Thank you for sharing these information.
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I think we have different "standards" for what the problems are.
a. I'm using the Resco keyboard, since the original is not showing up (as described in many other threads here and at the Qtek 9000 forum)
b. The backlight adjustment screen is OK.
c. The Comm Manager is "squished" but usable. I would prefer it if the icons were bigger, but I can use without any serious problems.
d. The phone does leave a gap at the bottom with the last displayed picture, and it would be nice if it didn't. But I can use the phone without problems.
e. I haven't tried SPG GPRS Monitor on this device. However, I do not have problems with the "home icon" that Magic Button is displaying in "Task Bar mode" and I can press/click on the other status indicators.
f. The QuickGPS application is also "squished" together as the Comm Manager is. But I can read when I last updated and I can find the "Update now" button without problems. I am able to use the program, but it could look nicer.
g. My ROM version is 1.25.409.2 (03/21/07).
h. My language is (not supprisingly) norwegian.
So TrueVGA is not perfect, and it probably never will be (until WM6 I hope). But I think the advantages (insert pun here) outweights the disadvantages. Using my Advantage without TrueVGA is not an option for me anymore.

I agree with you that it is not an option for many people. I guess I need to lower my expectation a little. It was just that after seeing the beautiful screen, the initial euphoria was somewhat dampened by the ugly screens for some places and for some program.
I'm using VGA mode most of the time, and use the largest font in the setting>system>screen>font selection due to the strain on my eye if I use other fonts.
One of the key problems that I had using trueVGA initially was that because I could not control the backlight setting, everytime I toggle to VGA mode, it revert to turning backlight off in 10 seconds. There is absolute no way to change it to stay on for longer time. So it was very frustration to look at an extremely dimmed screen which is totally unreadable outdoor. This problem seems to have gone away after two recent hard resets. With that problem gone, I guess I can live with the other imperfection

I had a simular problem with the backlight control --- I have installed "Todaywarrior" and I can control the backlight from the today screen now while in VGA mode.

leblancrs said:
I had a simular problem with the backlight control --- I have installed "Todaywarrior" and I can control the backlight from the today screen now while in VGA mode.
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Hi leblancrs,
Thanks for this info. What can today warrior do? Does it let you specify the elapsed time before backlight is off?
what else can it do?
You have the website link?
Spb pocket plus can adjust backlight, but not the time elapsed setting, I think.

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Hi leblancrs,
Thanks for this info. What can today warrior do? Does it let you specify the elapsed time before backlight is off?
what else can it do?
You have the website link?
Spb pocket plus can adjust backlight, but not the time elapsed setting, I think.
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Google is you're friend
http://personales.ya.com/beemer/todaywarrior1.htm

leblancrs said:
I had a simular problem with the backlight control --- I have installed "Todaywarrior" and I can control the backlight from the today screen now while in VGA mode.
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Hi Leblancrs,
Downloaded that and tried it. Unfortunatley, this actually is not doing what I was talking about. While it provides a slider to control the backlight (which I can already do in many different ways without problem in VGA mode), it does not appear to have a facility to specify how many minutes must elapse before backlight is automatically switched off (battery and main would have a different setting of course). Or am I missing out something?

Well ive ordered one of these devices on the basis that Windows Mobile 6 offers VGA. Im pretty confident that is official not just hopeful but Microsoft have been known to dissapoint before.
If thats the case then I guess this device will be up on ebay pretty quick. Im not going through all the stuffing around for VGA like what you're all experiencing and like what I went through for Universal VGA. Despite the fact that converting to VGA seems to be a much easier process now.

Hhhmm
I have installed MW6 on my device and no native vga support I am afraid.
Oh well.

Those screens are way too small with VGA , like being blind!

spacecat said:
Those screens are way too small with VGA , like being blind!
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No, it's not. It's like seing alot!
It's absolutely excellent!

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No, it's not. It's like seing alot!
It's absolutely excellent!
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I used truevga for a while, although I didn't experience quite the same amount of problems as Eaglesteve I did have distorted comms and dialpad screens and was unable to change the brightness. There were a few other niggles but these were the prevalent one.
After getting over the novelty of tiny icons and lots of space on the today screen I eventually removed the program. Now IE and Opera support high resolution it seems like even less reason to use it.
There seems to be no REAL advantage to its use other than to view lots of icons at once.
Taking all the problems into account I can live with chunky icons - they're hardly offensive to the eyes. and I suppose didn't pay good money for a 5" screen to squint and have to get my pen out evey time I want to type something or navigate through menus.
Much as Microsoft DO neglect certain applications and functionlity with windows mobile I think that they have made a conscious decision not to use VGA and this decision would have been made for a reason, though we may never know it.
I'll install MVRTruevga again and give it another try now and see if my opinion alters......

leoni1980 said:
I used truevga for a while, although I didn't experience quite the same amount of problems as Eaglesteve I did have distorted comms and dialpad screens and was unable to change the brightness. There were a few other niggles but these were the prevalent one.
After getting over the novelty of tiny icons and lots of space on the today screen I eventually removed the program. Now IE and Opera support high resolution it seems like even less reason to use it.
There seems to be no REAL advantage to its use other than to view lots of icons at once.
Taking all the problems into account I can live with chunky icons - they're hardly offensive to the eyes. and I suppose didn't pay good money for a 5" screen to squint and have to get my pen out evey time I want to type something or navigate through menus.
Much as Microsoft DO neglect certain applications and functionlity with windows mobile I think that they have made a conscious decision not to use VGA and this decision would have been made for a reason, though we may never know it.
I'll install MVRTruevga again and give it another try now and see if my opinion alters......
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There are also a number of apps that look pretty strange with MvRTrueVGA. But I'll put up with some cosmetic defects for functionality. I just love being able to see a couple days of appointments, device status, weather info... plus an ilauncher strip, all on my today screen!

wgary said:
There are also a number of apps that look pretty strange with MvRTrueVGA. But I'll put up with some cosmetic defects for functionality. I just love being able to see a couple days of appointments, device status, weather info... plus an ilauncher strip, all on my today screen!
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I had the same excitement myself initially, though I found it difficult to press these icons with my fat fingers and inevitably decided that it was easier to just navigate to the program folder and leave essential apps for the today screen. I hope a new VGA solution is developed soon which makes the icons a bit bigger and throws up less garbled screens and program glitches.
In the interim does anyone have link for how to alter the sidebar/ softkey size so they look like thse in MVRtruevga? my internet is very slow on my phone today so searching is proving very frustrating.

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No, it's not. It's like seing alot!
It's absolutely excellent!
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your opinion dude , in mine its WAY too small, its not like you need to see so much at once . Who needs the eyestrain

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There seems to be no REAL advantage to its use other than to view lots of icons at once.
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Have you ever tried editing an Excel-spreadsheet or Word-document using MrVTrueVga? It's a must.

spacecat said:
your opinion dude , in mine its WAY too small, its not like you need to see so much at once . Who needs the eyestrain
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Sure it's my opinion, I was just commenting yours...
(To me) There is no eyestrain, so I don't "see" ( ) the problem...

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Have you ever tried editing an Excel-spreadsheet or Word-document using MrVTrueVga? It's a must.
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It is certainly easier to edit word and excel documents in VGA mode - I'm surprised MS didn't create a highres option for their office apps like the one in PIE.
You can change the default font size via the system>screen menu instead of switching to VGA for a slight improvement.

Athena Project Feature Request

Hi guys, as soon as we get some more money the 2nd athena should be arriving to me, so in light of this i'd like to see what your feature requests are for the rom i will be building
Everything will be considered, but no guaruantees
Dont forget to
or this cant happen

suggestions...
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Hi guys, as soon as we get some more money the 2nd athena should be arriving to me, so in light of this i'd like to see what your feature requests are for the rom i will be building
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- Fix all trueVGA graphical problems. Icons, screens, etc. I would like to run in trueVGA full time without having these types of issues.
- Unlock Extended ROM so people can put their own apps in for the next hard reset. ;-)
- Put the "Tray Display" utility into the ROM so people can show or hide their trays. File name "traydisplayinstall_196.CAB".
- Setup the "BlueTooth Tray Status & BT Audio Util" on the ROM. File name "btIO-0.5.CAB".
- Maybe the functionality to add/remove program icons from the tray without having to modify the registry? ;-)
- All black VGA theme. Similar to the default WM6 theme but all black.
- If possible, maybe an updated version of Pirazu so we can control a mouse cursor with the joystick?
- Alternative to BlueMouse so we can use a BT mouse cursor on the device. BlueMouse is nice but it costs.

Make it work like "Touch" may be the looks....

vueFlo for everything.

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vueFlo for everything.
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Yes...how did I forget this. For sure trying to tie the vueFlo into other apps and possibly games, etc.

ltxda said:
- Fix all trueVGA graphical problems. Icons, screens, etc. I would like to run in trueVGA full time without having these types of issues.
- Unlock Extended ROM so people can put their own apps in for the next hard reset. ;-)
- Put the "Tray Display" utility into the ROM so people can show or hide their trays. File name "traydisplayinstall_196.CAB".
- Setup the "BlueTooth Tray Status & BT Audio Util" on the ROM. File name "btIO-0.5.CAB".
- Maybe the functionality to add/remove program icons from the tray without having to modify the registry? ;-)
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For me, these first five would be a darn good start.
- With #1 - Usable dialer in TrueVGA would be #1 on my list.
Couple more (may already be fixed in WM6, but have yet to plunge):
- WiFi On/Off is flaky unless you actually go into the Comm Manager (e.g., PhoneAlarm and other programs are not effective)
- I still have problems doing multiple mappings to Win and OK buttons. AEBPlus does this kinda, but then other buttons get mucked up. Given few number of buttons, this is really limiting.
Wish list:
- USB-powered Beer Tap. I know the low-power port might be an issue, but I'm sure this should be doable. Integration with MS VC would also be great, "Computer, pour beer." (All I can say is, it's been a long day!)

Actually I should have just put mapping of the vueFlo API. That should open up the rest of the developers to building cool widgets also.

VueFlo for rotate screen like iPhone

bebox said:
VueFlo for rotate screen like iPhone
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That would be cool! I'm in favour!

i think rotate screen would a great feature when you see a photo .

widcomm bluetooth stack =) for dun
also a way to use another windows phone as a bt headset like the touch (if possible)

Solid & Fast ROM compatible with previous backups
Damn guys...you're not asking for much are you...hehe. Actually I quite like the sound of the all Black VGA ROM with Touch like interface.
But hey, I'll settle for a an all black super reliable and damn fast ROM in vanilla favour.
You guys have made some great suggestions, that I can't argue with. All I can say..is I'd love a ROM that I can use my Spb Backup files with...without corrupting any software, so when you release version 0.1, 0.2 etc...it will still be compatible with my backup files, making the switching of ROM's a quick thing to do.
I hate my phone being out of action. and having to re-install everything again.

I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.

c0mput0r said:
I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
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why not just make vueflo toggle ?

c0mput0r said:
I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
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i think i can fix the larger text part...
here try this
WARNING...THIS IS NOT REVERSIBLE....NOT WITHOUT CHANGING SOME REG. ENTRIES... AT LEAST (and i don't know which one's need to change!!)
works well with se VGA too esp. if you have fading eyesight!!!

How about an icon on the task bar that rotates screen.
Also, when using the device in QVGA mode, smaller icons on today screen, start/program screen, start/setting screens.
When in VGA mode, but running a QVGA program , show a matching size bigger soft key buttons.
Show connection icons (H, 3G, G) correctly when in true vga mode.

Opera Mobile 9.405

I found this at PPCGEEKS. Can someone be brave enough to install and let me know how it is different than 9.33?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=19533

I try and i tell you the news...

this is v9.5 build 405, it runs faster than v9.0 build 331 but smart-fit function is still for VGA only, hoping final version will support QVGA!

bachikho said:
this is v9.5 build 405, it runs faster than v9.0 build 331 but smart-fit function is still for VGA only, hoping final version will support QVGA!
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Can it be uninstalled?

no, but don't worry because when installing a new version, it will be uninstalled automatically!

Any notable speed performance??

any mirrors?

Shrooma said:
any mirrors?
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Mirror:
http://rapidshare.com/files/95641172/WM6_PPC_HTC_Opera9-405.CAB
http://rapidshare.com/files/95656276/standard_skin.zip
Tried it - still very slow on my Trinity WM6 compared to opera mini. Also I encountered many freezes of the ppc and had t soft reset.
Maybe it's not meant to be used on qvga screens at all.
Will still wait for the final release.

I downloaded it, but it wouldn't open on my Kaiser.

Faster - but doesnt zoom out all the way which is a bit of a pain.

Uninstall
Guys...try this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1973551#post1973551
This one has an uninstall feature.

Bratag said:
Faster - but doesnt zoom out all the way which is a bit of a pain.
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Try typing "about:config" in the address field (without the quotes)
and you can customize maaaaaaaaaaaaany settings including screen
size with Adaptive Zoom Settings. So you optimze it for QVGA Portrait
or Landscape screen. You can also change Cache Location and much more!!
Olioaglio

wow I didnt even know about that - Do you have any recommended settings for qvga. To me it seems like the fonts are perhaps wrong.

update...
Guys I posted a new CAB with uninstaller. Also posted qVGA version. Enjoy!

Autowrap
Guess there isn't any auto wrap of text or fitting to page like in mini?

To get this version set up properly type opera:config into the address bar. Then go to Adaptive Zoom hit default for everything except "Virtual Screen Width" put this to 960. This will set it to the same settings as 9.0 v.331. I'm still playing around with this setting to see if I can get QVGA screens to do the smart zoom to text like on OperaMini.

Olioaglio said:
Try typing "about:config" in the address field (without the quotes)
and you can customize maaaaaaaaaaaaany settings including screen
size with Adaptive Zoom Settings. So you optimze it for QVGA Portrait
or Landscape screen. You can also change Cache Location and much more!!
Olioaglio
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You you can change many settings there including Adaptive zoom, however that is only PART of the solution to getting Opera to properly fit to screen on a QVGA device.
These VGA optimized versions limit the paragraph width to VGA dimensions... not QVGA ones... It is possible to make some adjustments to the adaptive zoom settings to compensate for this.. but for many sites it is not enough. We need to be able to adjust the limit on the paragraph width... like it does in Opera Mini.
I know this could not be done in the config section of Opera Mobile 9.33 ....can it be done in 9.405? There is an option to turn the "limit paragraph width" on and off, but not to adjust the actual width.

DaMilky said:
You you can change many settings there including Adaptive zoom, however that is only PART of the solution to getting Opera to properly fit to screen on a QVGA device.
These VGA optimized versions limit the paragraph width to VGA dimensions... not QVGA ones... It is possible to make some adjustments to the adaptive zoom settings to compensate for this.. but for many sites it is not enough. We need to be able to adjust the limit on the paragraph width... like it does in Opera Mini.
I know this could not be done in the config section of Opera Mobile 9.33 ....can it be done in 9.405? There is an option to turn the "limit paragraph width" on and off, but not to adjust the actual width.
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you are wrong ... you just need to go to the context menu

I'm about to get rid of my smartphone just so I can use this program.

therealholg said:
you are wrong ... you just need to go to the context menu
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Can you please share your settings?
Surur