GPS-Patchantenna for T-Mobile-Ameo (Athena, HTC Advantage) - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

Greetings @all,
first sorry for my terrible English.
The Ameo (Athena) is a great device and i really love it,
but there is something that let me go mad.
I´can´t find a GPS Patch Antenna for the device.
T-Mobile tell me that they can´t help me.
HTC doesn´t Answer until now.
Does any one know wich kind of Patch-Antenna I need for the Athena ?
I tried until know a Patch antenna for the Thypoon 3500, a MCX-Antenna and a MMCX-Antenna but they all doesnt fit. MCX was really close but still didn´t.
I need one because in my Car i have a Front Window with heating.
For any answer or hint i will be verry happy.
Jack

Are you SURE you need one? My ford has front screen heating, but the GPS works perfectly! The chipset seems to be pretty darn sensitive! I'm not sure the connector - in fact, which aerial socket is it on the back, the left or the right?

Look in the artemis forum
Look in the Artemis section. The premium package came with one, and I kept mine after selling the unit as non-premium. However, I have really not had to use it on any device yet.
There's a thread in there with part number etc.

Thanks, for the quick reply.
@Digital.Diablo:
sorry but i´m sure i need an external, i already tried it and i became no Satelites - I tried it with the programm Falk Navigator Pro SC and i´m driving
a Ford Focus Turnier with a new front screen heating. The Original one was heavy damaged by a stone.
@victoradjei
I will try the one for the Artemis with the Ameo(Advantage/Athena) and i will Report if it fits. I don´t find in the Artemis Forum the Name of the Connectorpin. Did you know its Name (for example: mcx )?
Greetings
Jack

It's Motorola standard antenna.

MrHagen said:
It's Motorola standard antenna.
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Well, and wich Connector mean´s that ?
Standard antenna for wich Motorola ?
Greetings
Jack

I think the artenis is a Mini - MMCX
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-283181.html
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=5887

Jack_Blues said:
Thanks, for the quick reply.
@Digital.Diablo:
sorry but i´m sure i need an external, i already tried it and i became no Satelites - I tried it with the programm Falk Navigator Pro SC and i´m driving
a Ford Focus Turnier with a new front screen heating. The Original one was heavy damaged by a stone.
@victoradjei
I will try the one for the Artemis with the Ameo(Advantage/Athena) and i will Report if it fits. I don´t find in the Artemis Forum the Name of the Connectorpin. Did you know its Name (for example: mcx )?
Greetings
Jack
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It might not be that you need an antenna.Check all of your settings! I am not familiar with your mapping software,but there is a thread somewhere regarding problems with other map software and how they solved it.
I can use mine inside of a 10 story building with Tom Tom on it and it works excellent!
Hope this helps..................Later

mine doesn't work in nearest and costliests car or on foot in most heavily wooded either(more important for me).
so If the parch antenna works please let me know. I'm loathe to carry around my bt gps, it's something else I'd need to carry an extra charger for!

unfortunatly, Artemis hasn't MMCX. I have GPS Shop and i checked it out.

@hdbueller:
well, outside the car i have no Problem to get a Sat fix.
also oh the rear window anything is fine, Tested it earlier just for fun.
@fards: I already tested mmcx and mcx both didn´t fit
I tried this product´s:
http://www.dealcatshop.de/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=85
and
http://www.dealcatshop.de/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=158
@MrHagen: you wrote you have a GPS Shop. Could you check wich one fits to the HTC Athena/Advantage X7500/T-Mobile-Ameo ?
@all: by the way, a lot of thanks for all your replies
Right now i wait for the Artemis Patch Antenna, in hope it will fit.
I will report, promise
Greetings Jack

Sounds like your windows are metallized. You could try driving with you're windows wound down! Let us know how you get on!

After Long Time waiting the Artemis Patch Antenna arived on Saturday,
I Tested it and damm doesnt fit. The Connector looks right but didn´t fit through the case. The hole ist too small for the connector.
Has anybody an Idea where i can find one that fits.
Greetings Jack

If i get a chance I'll ask gpsforless.co.uk
If they don't know but have a selection in stock I can call in and test some out on the way home from work if they'll let me..They aren't far from me
Jack_Blues said:
After Long Time waiting the Artemis Patch Antenna arived on Saturday,
I Tested it and damm doesnt fit. The Connector looks right but didn´t fit through the case. The hole ist too small for the connector.
Has anybody an Idea where i can find one that fits.
Greetings Jack
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This would be really nice. I verry Thank you.
Greetings Jack

Hope at Last
Yust new on the expansys.de website:
HTC Advantage External GPS Antenna
I ordered it directly. Hope that when it arrived all my problems are solved.
Greetings
Jack

That's cool or maybe not...
Spoke to gpsforless last week, they hadn't got a clue what it was likely to be, not had a chance to call in yet as been working odd hours.
Connector: MS-147-C(LP)-2 HTC list that as the same as the P3300/artemis, Jack was your original patch cable a branded HTC one? it's the same item if it is.
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=147380&p=tech

Damm sounds not good, yes it was an Original HTC cable i ordered by expansys.de too. The Connector look´s right but doesnt fit through the hole in the Ameo metal case
Greetings Jack

Jack - did you receive this and did it fit ok?
Jack_Blues said:
Hope at Last
Yust new on the expansys.de website:
HTC Advantage External GPS Antenna
I ordered it directly. Hope that when it arrived all my problems are solved.
Greetings
Jack
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Today the Antenna arived, and it fits !!
A little bit weaken, but it works perfectly.
Thanks to expansys, i was just geeting starting mad.
Greetings Jack

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noviur said:
Does it comes with map? If yes, is it included North America?
Would you ship to Canada?
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is it bluetooth compatible ? and how would you say its different from the tomtom bluetooth receiver ?
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nya2003uk said:
is it bluetooth compatible ? and how would you say its different from the tomtom bluetooth receiver ?
regards
Naz
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This is wired solution which comes with cable that connects directly to the back to your xda's syc/charge port (com1), therefore it has nothing to do with bluetooth.
hope this help, cheers
how much is it?
For as little as £59.99
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ok, but what i am tryin to get at is, i currently have a TomTom Bluetooth Receiver ... now what benefits what i gain by getting this type of gps receiver ? The one disadvantage i can see is that it isnt bluetooth, so more cables !!.. i would greatly appreciate if you could give me some pros and cons...
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nya2003uk said:
ok, but what i am tryin to get at is, i currently have a TomTom Bluetooth Receiver ... now what benefits what i gain by getting this type of gps receiver ? The one disadvantage i can see is that it isnt bluetooth, so more cables !!.. i would greatly appreciate if you could give me some pros and cons...
thank you.
Regards
Naz
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If you already have a bluetooth gps receiver you dont need a cabled variety.
To nya2003uk
nya2003uk said:
ok, but what i am tryin to get at is, i currently have a TomTom Bluetooth Receiver ... now what benefits what i gain by getting this type of gps receiver ? The one disadvantage i can see is that it isnt bluetooth, so more cables !!.. i would greatly appreciate if you could give me some pros and cons...
thank you.
Regards
Naz
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yes, you're right, bluetooth offer you tidier surroundings with less cable going around you. However if you do need to charge them in the car, you got problem. Because you can only charge one device at a time since you have only one cigarette power port in your car (unless you use cigarette hub which then gives you two or more cigarette socket)
What if you travelling a lot i.e. 2 or more hours of navigational need. Neither of your unit can keep you on for more the 2 hours, in fact far more less.
Now, with this Personal GPS Kit, you charge your PDA units as well as getting the data from the com1 port as it works same as that you put it on it’s cradle (syc/charge) at the same time.

Aerial Socket "discovery"

Hi all,
Just back from holiday and my new toy has arrived - an external aerial for the Exec...
Not sure if this has been covered before (I tried searching for 20 mins and didn't find anything) but after experimenting I have discovered the following:
The left hand aerial socket only works for GSM.
The right hand aerial socket only works for UTMS.
Guess I always wondered why there were 2 sockets!!!
G
Aerial sockets? Can we see some pics please?
I'd be interested in more info on this as well.
Do you know what type of connector it uses?
Any ideas on the reliability of the connections, they look as though they could be flimsy?
Have you tried to see if they improve the Wi-Fi signal at all?
And the ultimate question, what aerial is it that you bought?
Thanx in advance,
Pug.
gquipster said:
Hi all,
Just back from holiday and my new toy has arrived - an external aerial for the Exec...
Not sure if this has been covered before (I tried searching for 20 mins and didn't find anything) but after experimenting I have discovered the following:
The left hand aerial socket only works for GSM.
The right hand aerial socket only works for UTMS.
Guess I always wondered why there were 2 sockets!!!
G
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I think you are mistaken!
One socket is for an external GSM antenna (2G and UMTS), the other socket is for an external WIFI antenna.
jasonkruys said:
I think you are mistaken!
One socket is for an external GSM antenna (2G and UMTS), the other socket is for an external WIFI antenna.
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And are these avaiable off the shelf yet??
Mav
Aerial I bought and more...
Well to answer the important question of what aerial I bought it was this one:
http://www.mobilephonecrazy.com/modeldetail/xda-exec,Signal_Enhancer.htm
I mainly bought it for the car - driving through Windsor Great Park the signal is a bit dubious at places so bought this to improve it.
I've actually downgraded the radio stack on the phone to 1.09 recently as 1.13 seemed to have problems with the UMTS signal - in places where everyone else was getting a good UMTS signal I was getting 0 to 1 bars at most - and it does seem better now, but the built-in aerial of the Exec doesn't seem very good at all - hopefully the successor will have a better antenna!
The above aerial I think is a fairly standard aerial but the important thing as far as we are concerned is that it came with a 50cm fly lead that has a socket for the aerial at one end and a plug that goes into the back of the Exec at the other - it came in a little plastic bag marked "SPV M5000" - I'm not an electronics expert I'm afraid so can't tell anyone the actual type of plug but I'll photograph it tonight if anyone is interested.
Right I have to drive to work - have a good day everyone!
Hi,
It looks like a great find. Can you comment on how good the aerial is? Does it really do a good job of increasing signal strength and if so by how much on average?
Does it give you a signal in places you didnt used to get a signal before?
It would be great if you can post the results of your "discovery".
I have a really crap signal in my office and need to balance my phone on top of a lamp to get just 1 bar....
Also you might want to move this to the accessory board?
Any chance on some feedback for this aerial?
I really want to sort my reception problem out and would like to know how your aerial performs before wasting money...
Thnks
I'd love to post some performance reviews of this aerial however some blaggard on Friday stole my car, laptop, phone and aerial so at the moment I'm kinda incommunicado :-(
Once insurance kicks in and I get replacements (should have new work laptop shortly) I'll post some performance comments.
Sorry all!!!
G
gquipster said:
I'd love to post some performance reviews of this aerial however some blaggard on Friday stole my car, laptop, phone and aerial so at the moment I'm kinda incommunicado :-(
Once insurance kicks in and I get replacements (should have new work laptop shortly) I'll post some performance comments.
Sorry all!!!
G
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Bummer chap, hope you get sorted.
Mav
OK looks like I wil take the chance and buy an aerial anyway.
I will let you know....
Sorry about the uni
Dude sory to hear about the uni getting robbed. I also live in windsor so will keep an ear to the ground for anyone selling/getting rid of a uni.
But back to the thread.
I work in a second world war hangar with 3ft thick walls, so reception is nill.
After looking into wifi a little while back, I was making an external wifi antenna for my uni for use around home and work (very basic just a pice of wire and a wooden pole). When I plugged it in to my uni I found that the network signal (not the wifi) reception went up to 3 bars from nothing.
I have plugged the antenna in the wrong connector.
so after cocking up I have solved a problem with the signal but not the wifi.
All I used was a 10mtr pice of coax (50hm). A standard female uhf tv conector and this is the important bit, a 36mm copper rod from the centre of a power cable. Fit this in the uhf connector and point it upward like an aerial. connect the coax to the uhf connector.
Then on the other end strip the coax down to the centre core strands and snuggly slot them in the connection on the back of your uni.
Thats it!!!
Now i said it was basic!! but it does work despite the amount of cable.
If anyone would like photos I will take them toinight and try to pop them on my web site. But for now I can e-mail untill its up and running. [email protected]
If anyone would like some of the coax (I get it from work) and are near the Windsor area, feel free to e-mail me and we can sort getting some to you. (free as we are all in the same boat here).
My next project will be a car mounted type. watch this space!!
Found this on the wiki:
http://www.wpsantennas.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=408
This is just a connector, you still need an external antenna, which you can find on this site as well. If you poke around the site there is also a 3w bi-directional amp which boosts range up to 50 miles.(85km) It only works on 2 frequencies, and I don't know which is which, so I'm not sure what it's good for.

Qtek 2020 headphone connector broken :(

Hello all,
My Qtek 2020 (Himalaya PH10B) fell on the floor with the headphones on, and the mini-jack for connector for the headphones broke inside it.
I successfully opened it, and I was able to see the damages. I can see only 6 pins that connected the mini-jack plug to the main board, and it seems that there could be a seventh that got broken...
Would anyone of you know of a closeup picture of this headset plug/connector ? Do you know if it is possible to find a new one ? If not, mine looks reparable still, but I would feel reassured if I knew the exact connection here
Thank you in advance for your help.
Cheers
Thomas
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=225372&highlight=connector
Thank you for your answer Rudegar,
I re-soldered the connector, and I realized that a pin was indeed missing. I actually found it freely moving inside the PDA, but I could not solder it back to the connector. The results ? Well, it still does not work, unfortunately... With the headset on, it is mainly okay (there is still a little contact problem) but *withou* the headset, it still has no sound...
So :
1) Can I find this connector somewhere ?
2) Is there a way to tell the PDA not to check for the headset, and use the main speaker all the time ?
3) Would it change anything if I bought a blutooth headset ?
Thank you in advance !
Cheers
Thomas
1.) i doubt it would be a cheap option if htc had a special connector made just for their phones so i'd asume they use some sort of std component
and maybe there even is a partNr og serial on the connector
which could be used to find a replacement in R&S catalog
http://www.rs-components.com/index.html
2.) no pretty sure the switch between headset and internal speaker is don in hardware and software cant control it
3.) no with bluetooth headset you just dont use the audio connector which mean it would be empty and you'd have no sound on the pda
but it would prob solve poor contact issue of your current headset
Thank you Rudegar !
I am going to re-open it and check if I can find any serial # on the component. It looks like it is my best option. Obviously, if I find something, I will post it on that forum, so that other people can know...
Thanks again !
Cheers
Thomas

GPS issue

Hi there...
I'm using Garmin Mobile XT and when i put the phone in my car holder it loses the gps signal...
anyone know of an app/way i can use to tweak the gps or maybe improve reception?
TrueTenacity said:
Hi there...
I'm using Garmin Mobile XT and when i put the phone in my car holder it loses the gps signal...
anyone know of an app/way i can use to tweak the gps or maybe improve reception?
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what radio and rom are you using? Maybe updating the radio rom will help.
Duttys V4 rom for diamond
and radio 1.09.25.23
any recommendations?
Weird. Does the car holder charge? What car is it (what kind of roof)?
it's a generic non-charging car holder for cellphones and pda's from Herbert Richter
Opel (vauxhall) corsa standard roof...
My N95 used to get perfect lock in the exact same place... but the diamond gets nada
do you have disabled A-GPS?
There's actually a hotfix from htc for GPS issue - may be it will help..
Copy the exe-file into the internal storage, click it and enjoy...
yeah it's off...
Ok, hotfix installed... will test it out tomorrow and let you know...
edit: Testing Garmin now and it seems to have about the same level of lock-on... but the test will be in the car tomorrow...
Same result... :-(
hard reset..
tried that...
the thing is if i hold the phone by my window or step out of the car with the phone in my hand... within seconds it gets a 10-satellite lock... it's just in the car in the holder that there's no signal... :-(
I honestly think it's not that car holder, but the windshield. Your car probably has a shielded or a treated glass in the windshield, causing bad or low reception.
If the GPS fix is almost instant when you hand is out of the window, it is pretty clear. Try your unit in another car (with a clear windshield, preferrably an older model to be sure) to see whether this is the case.
As a sollution, most of the cars have an area behind the rear view mirror where the windshield is not treated. As you cannot put your diamond there (it would be usesless, wouldn't it ), you can go for an external bluetooth gps dongle paired with your diamond (it actually offers a better GPS reception than the built-in one ;-) ).
try flashing a newer radio rom and .ril from this thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566 (Radio roms)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494632 (.ril for matching the radio.
If your not "SECURITY UNLOCKED" then only flash a radio for your device/carrier and also those are for GSM phones only.
ok, which ones do you recommend? sorry i'm new to all this...
gonna give Quartz Radio 1.12.25.WSD a try... -> not compatible...
TrueTenacity said:
ok, which ones do you recommend? sorry i'm new to all this...
gonna give Quartz Radio 1.12.25.WSD a try... -> not compatible...
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Where are you located? and who is your carrier? I usually use the newest radio rom, but download the radio rom and .ril that match's the one you have, so you can revert bact to it in the event that the GPS is worse. But I doubt that will happen.
TrueTenacity said:
ok, which ones do you recommend? sorry i'm new to all this...
gonna give Quartz Radio 1.12.25.WSD a try... -> not compatible...
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Sorry, I linked the Touch Pro radio's.. There is a similar thread in the Diamond folders. So start by finding that thread and read the post associated with the different radios. Also some of the newer roms include a working AGPS, which will help for initial satellite lock times. But for keeping a lock, it's most likely the radio rom or hardware.
Here is the Diamond thread::::
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470306
Vodacom South Africa
Already using the highest recommended radio for the diamond...
Will just have to experiment with placement and maybe a new phone holder...
TrueTenacity said:
Vodacom South Africa
Already using the highest recommended radio for the diamond...
Will just have to experiment with placement and maybe a new phone holder...
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Radio v1.11.25.01 (Quad Band)(52.58.25.30H)
-Download HERE
How about that one? I don't know where the .ril is, but it's very easy to flash a new radio rom, just follow the directions and afterwards I always make sure to shut the phone off for several minutes (in hopes of clearing old GPS garble out) then start up.
But I have had a lot of flakey results with my GPS and different radios.
OK, new radio loaded, will give it a whirl tomorrow
---> Noticing degraded lock-on... only 3 satellites instead of 10... but maybe better performance in the car...

[q] help!!! Gps not working!!

Hi folks!!
I need help to fix this problem I have with the mini GPS, The Mini don't recieve any signal from the satelites , I use NaviComputer and GoogleMaps with the Mini's GPS, two days ago it worked perfectly.
by the way i don't move any settings, so I DON'T KNOW what happens
Thank you!
Please Sugestions?
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Please Sugestions?
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Hello my friend.
First update quick gps.Test the gps program you have in an outside area.
Then you can use htc gps tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477
it works for our mini.
Just try these and tell me if the problem is fixed
Hi nsourm
Well dude, I already do all you told me, but i got the same results.. nothing happens, also i made a Hard Reset, update the GPS data, run the app, still nothing
i attach some screens for you review.
HI Guys!!!
I FIX THE GPS!!!!!!!!!!!, the problem, the antenna cable was loose, I reconnect it again and it Worked 100%
So could you share with us, where the antenna is located?
A photo maybe?
Please take a look to this video -> HTC Aria Disassembly, you will see EXACTLY the same layout in the Mini;
The coaxial cable for the GPS is the blue one, the white one is for the WiFi, the WiFi antenna is located in the top yellow cover of the mini (the one that protects the camera and the speaker), the GPS antenna i believe is located in the same location.
Remember I don't identified it, because my problem was the GPS blue coaxial cable was loose, I only reconect it and solve my problem.
Best Regards
Wow! You have dared to disassemble your phone!
Great that problem is solved.
-kOS- said:
HI Guys!!!
I FIX THE GPS!!!!!!!!!!!, the problem, the antenna cable was loose, I reconnect it again and it Worked 100%
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Hello, my dear,
I still cannot find the gps antenna...
At the video posted above they don't talk about GPS ANTENNA...
Could you, please, give me a hand? My HTC Mini shown the same problem...my GPS just stopped working.
I'm desperated!
Pleaaaaaaaaaaaase!
HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!
Thanks in advance
Did you have install Android system ?

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