Can you have voice service with one carrier and just internet (gprs, edge, 3g) with another carrier? is this possible?
Theoretically, yes, but you would need:
a) A dual SIM adapter for your phone and you would have to switch between SIMs (which in some cases involves reset)
b) The carrier would have to agree to sell you a "data only" package. Such packages are usually offered when you by a cellular modem.
another option could be having a 2nd phone with bluetooth, having a sim in that device with just a data plan.
Your PDA connects to the 2nd device via bluetooth- DUN - (or internet sharing in WN6)
so when your making calls the you use 1 sim and to connect to the internet you use another device,
I use to use this method a few years back, when I had work sims, with unlimited data plans, -
the spare phone use to just sit in a bag or pocket and never had to be taken out-
on a slightly off-note,
i came across a review eith on engadget or another site a year ago, where they had this PDA that could take 2 sims at the same time and work on 2 networks at the same time, im sure it was a south Koreans or tiawnes model,
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Since some companies charge insane amounts for GRPS and not minutes, is it possible to work around this by using dialup PPP over the cellular (not GRPS) modem in the connections area?
YES, BUT I THINK DEPENDING ON WHICH SERVICE U USE; THEY WILL STILL CHARGE U FOR THE AMOUNTS OF DATA TRAVELING BAK N FORTH
The various carriers in Australia (except Virgin, which don't support any data at all yet) all charge data calls over GSM as standard peak/off peak calls, just like voice.
So to answer your question, here in Oz I'll often switch back to Analogue CSD line type and dial into my office via our RAS server (ie. use the GSM line) if I plan to browse / download large content, because the peak call works out cheaper than would downloading the data via GPRS (albeit significantly slower!).
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Thanks for the responses
Here's what I've decided to do (USA). I am keeping my AT&T GSM plan for use with voice only. Don't let them scam you into buying a data plan. T-Mobile offers an unlimited internet plan at about 50% of what AT&T and Cingular offer. Once mobileplace lets me know if they have planned for a better dual sim solution than the ghost or cutting, I will switch between sims based on my needs at the time.
CSD Connection Is Beautiful!
JUICEe said:
YES, BUT I THINK DEPENDING ON WHICH SERVICE U USE; THEY WILL STILL CHARGE U FOR THE AMOUNTS OF DATA TRAVELING BAK N FORTH
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I presume otherwise, i.e. most service providers charge air time as if it were a voice call. This is the case with T-Mobile US at least. Nights and weekends are free data time - nice! 9kbps is not too bad to surf the net without graphics.
I posted detailed set-up in thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4723
hey guys,
I have put a sim card from my iphone 1st gen to my x1... the x1 can detect the sim and auto config itself to att setting. However it always show its on the 3G network (should be edge instead) and whenever I try to get online it will say it cannot connect to the server.... any idea on how to fix it?
I have tried to put in a att 3G sim in it and it works perfectly fine.. so I am guessing somehow the phone just like the 3G network better and always try to get itself on the 3G but not the edge??
I tried using the advance config to bring out the disable 3G tab in the communication manager... but its always gray out and nothing I can do to it.
odobo said:
hey guys,
I have put a sim card from my iphone 1st gen to my x1... the x1 can detect the sim and auto config itself to att setting. However it always show its on the 3G network (should be edge instead) and whenever I try to get online it will say it cannot connect to the server.... any idea on how to fix it?
I have tried to put in a att 3G sim in it and it works perfectly fine.. so I am guessing somehow the phone just like the 3G network better and always try to get itself on the 3G but not the edge??
I tried using the advance config to bring out the disable 3G tab in the communication manager... but its always gray out and nothing I can do to it.
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Was your last phone the iPhone? If so you have to make sure to do 4 things before internet will work on any other phone you put that sim in
1. Call ATT&T and have them put the Xperia IMEI number on your account.
2. Change your data plan from the iPhone data plan to the "pda personal" data plan
3. Confirm all references to the iPhone are out of ATT&T systems. I had this problem a couple of weeks ago where I changed my data plan but the rep forgot to update something in the billing system which still referenced me as having an iPhone and my internet would not work until they removed it.
4. Go into the connection manager on the phone and edit the wap.cingular settings. For some reason the connection manager populates a username and password, you need to delete both values as ATT&T medianet no longer uses a username and password
Your phone showing "H" (3G) doesn't really have any bearing on if you actually have internet connectivity as my phone was doing the same thing even before I got everything straightened out with ATT&T.
jhoward1082 said:
Was your last phone the iPhone? If so you have to make sure to do 4 things before internet will work on any other phone you put that sim in
1. Call ATT&T and have them put the Xperia IMEI number on your account.
2. Change your data plan from the iPhone data plan to the "pda personal" data plan
3. Confirm all references to the iPhone are out of ATT&T systems. I had this problem a couple of weeks ago where I changed my data plan but the rep forgot to update something in the billing system which still referenced me as having an iPhone and my internet would not work until they removed it.
4. Go into the connection manager on the phone and edit the wap.cingular settings. For some reason the connection manager populates a username and password, you need to delete both values as ATT&T medianet no longer uses a username and password
Your phone showing "H" (3G) doesn't really have any bearing on if you actually have internet connectivity as my phone was doing the same thing even before I got everything straightened out with ATT&T.
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Exactly - nicely said - now did you get an X1a or X1i?
jhoward1082 said:
Was your last phone the iPhone? If so you have to make sure to do 4 things before internet will work on any other phone you put that sim in
1. Call ATT&T and have them put the Xperia IMEI number on your account.
2. Change your data plan from the iPhone data plan to the "pda personal" data plan
3. Confirm all references to the iPhone are out of ATT&T systems. I had this problem a couple of weeks ago where I changed my data plan but the rep forgot to update something in the billing system which still referenced me as having an iPhone and my internet would not work until they removed it.
4. Go into the connection manager on the phone and edit the wap.cingular settings. For some reason the connection manager populates a username and password, you need to delete both values as ATT&T medianet no longer uses a username and password
Your phone showing "H" (3G) doesn't really have any bearing on if you actually have internet connectivity as my phone was doing the same thing even before I got everything straightened out with ATT&T.
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hrmm... cool let me try that and see.... I was thinking I can just pop in a sim card and work =D
but do you have to change to the smartphone plane or you can use the unlimited media?
i just popped in my sim card and everything worked. didnt have to call to give them my ime number but then again, i have a prepaid phone sim card and dont know if that would make a difference.
i dont see why your wanting edge, when 3g (h) is what you should really be wanting. well anyways, you wont get edge, if 3g is available. thats your phone picking up the high speed band, it will pick up whats available. thats just my thoughts anyways.
i have an x1a
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i just popped in my sim card and everything worked. didnt have to call to give them my ime number but then again, i have a prepaid phone sim card and dont know if that would make a difference.
i dont see why your wanting edge, when 3g (h) is what you should really be wanting. well anyways, you wont get edge, if 3g is available. thats your phone picking up the high speed band, it will pick up whats available. thats just my thoughts anyways.
i have an x1a
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well I just came back from Asia so I am just wondering why my x1 isnt connecting to edge at all
and btw... when I put that iphone sim to my blackjack 2... it did connect to the edge network instead of the 3G for some reason
is blackjack a 3g phone or edge. i thought its just an edge phone but i just looked it up and it does support 3g.
Greetings All,
After some disagreement with Bell, I've tried to find some truth regarding smart phone plans and the OMNIA II. The Bell representatives stated the Omnia II will only work with a smartphone plans (which conveniently start at $50 Ouch!)
Supposedly if I outright buy the phone (full price) I won't be forced into a contract. Assuming I'm contract free... can I subscribe to a cheaper monthly voice plan only?
The goal is to use the phone as a WM 6.5 PDA and surf only when in the vicinity of WIFI (home and office etc). For the few phone calls I make (which avg 4-5 a month - yes I hate talking on a cell phone), a simple voice plan with basic text messaging should suffice?
The issues surrounding this are:
A. Has this been done successfully before - is anyone doing it now???
B. When a WIFI hotspot isn't available, will the browser fail or will it secretly connect to the cellular network and ding me with data charges?
C. Having no prior experience with a GPS enabled cell phone - this "A-GPS" needs the data package to work? Or can I use it with a voice plan only?
D. I've heard stories of smartphones constantly talking to the cellular network, is this an issue? or is there a way to disable the data connections forcing it to use WIFI only?
E. Would any of this warrent unlocking the phone? Bell stated it comes locked with a Bell SIM card (its on their HSPA+ network).
Again, the goal is to use it as a suped' up PDA, surf only on WIFI and subscribe to a bare bones phone package for that occasional call I might make.
Suggestions? Comments? Advice?
KevinStraight said:
Greetings All,
After some disagreement with Bell, I've tried to find some truth regarding smart phone plans and the OMNIA II. The Bell representatives stated the Omnia II will only work with a smartphone plans (which conveniently start at $50 Ouch!)
Supposedly if I outright buy the phone (full price) I won't be forced into a contract. Assuming I'm contract free... can I subscribe to a cheaper monthly voice plan only?
The goal is to use the phone as a WM 6.5 PDA and surf only when in the vicinity of WIFI (home and office etc). For the few phone calls I make (which avg 4-5 a month - yes I hate talking on a cell phone), a simple voice plan with basic text messaging should suffice?
The issues surrounding this are:
A. Has this been done successfully before - is anyone doing it now???
B. When a WIFI hotspot isn't available, will the browser fail or will it secretly connect to the cellular network and ding me with data charges?
C. Having no prior experience with a GPS enabled cell phone - this "A-GPS" needs the data package to work? Or can I use it with a voice plan only?
D. I've heard stories of smartphones constantly talking to the cellular network, is this an issue? or is there a way to disable the data connections forcing it to use WIFI only?
E. Would any of this warrent unlocking the phone? Bell stated it comes locked with a Bell SIM card (its on their HSPA+ network).
Again, the goal is to use it as a suped' up PDA, surf only on WIFI and subscribe to a bare bones phone package for that occasional call I might make.
Suggestions? Comments? Advice?
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Re: Disabling GPRS - try NoData from Modaco - its a freeware, just google for it and disable all your data plans.
O2 will work with just voice plan
A. Omnia 2 will work with just a voice plan, I used mine in the Cook Islands last week with just a voice plan SIM.
B.The problem is that Bell offers data with the phone setting so you would have to make sure you disable the data, not just with Opera or the GPS, or you will incur data charges and they will roll up quickly. Most likely they offer the bundle (I have it and fine it a very reasonable plan for my phone use) because people regularly use data by mistake.
C. GPS Worked just fine. I couldn't use google maps but no problem, there's only one real road
D. As long as you are not using push email or any application that accesses the internet automatically you should not incur charges.
E.You don't have to unlock the phone unless you want to go with a different provider than Bell.
Are you set on having an Omnia 2? Perhaps a better option would be to purchase an unlocked Omnia 2 and a pay as you go SIM from a provider that does not have data.
Good luck.
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That rep was full of ****. Buy the phone outright, and call Bell and ask them to disable the data for you so you never have to second guess or accidentally use data on your phone. Be careful, you must disable data on every sim card you decide to use.
KevinStraight said:
Greetings All,
After some disagreement with Bell, I've tried to find some truth regarding smart phone plans and the OMNIA II. The Bell representatives stated the Omnia II will only work with a smartphone plans (which conveniently start at $50 Ouch!)
Supposedly if I outright buy the phone (full price) I won't be forced into a contract. Assuming I'm contract free... can I subscribe to a cheaper monthly voice plan only?
The goal is to use the phone as a WM 6.5 PDA and surf only when in the vicinity of WIFI (home and office etc). For the few phone calls I make (which avg 4-5 a month - yes I hate talking on a cell phone), a simple voice plan with basic text messaging should suffice?
The issues surrounding this are:
A. Has this been done successfully before - is anyone doing it now???
B. When a WIFI hotspot isn't available, will the browser fail or will it secretly connect to the cellular network and ding me with data charges?
C. Having no prior experience with a GPS enabled cell phone - this "A-GPS" needs the data package to work? Or can I use it with a voice plan only?
D. I've heard stories of smartphones constantly talking to the cellular network, is this an issue? or is there a way to disable the data connections forcing it to use WIFI only?
E. Would any of this warrent unlocking the phone? Bell stated it comes locked with a Bell SIM card (its on their HSPA+ network).
Again, the goal is to use it as a suped' up PDA, surf only on WIFI and subscribe to a bare bones phone package for that occasional call I might make.
Suggestions? Comments? Advice?
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I just signed a three year contract with Bell, a few weeks ago i was surfing on their site and like you said , impossible to get a Omnia 2 without a data plan, last week i went back on, and I dont know if its a bug, but you can order one with a regular voice plan, i took the 30$ plan ( cheapest) got the phone by mail , free.
If i click on my connections on top you can disable all data, and only use wifi. If it does want to use data it warns you before activating it.
Hope this helps
I have t-mobile sim card from my phone with unlimited internet and 700 min. when i put this sim card in the t-mobile galaxy tab, it wan't late me use internet but show 3g network. i understand that is IMEI problem, t-mobile block internet access with regular phone sim cards. It's any way to make sim card working on galaxay tab?
thank you
nefor23rus said:
I have t-mobile sim card from my phone with unlimited internet and 700 min. when i put this sim card in the t-mobile galaxy tab, it wan't late me use internet but show 3g network. i understand that is IMEI problem, t-mobile block internet access with regular phone sim cards. It's any way to make sim card working on galaxay tab?
thank you
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Yes you can but you will have to flash a custom EURO based ROM in order to do it and use the correct modem driver for your carrier.
There are several posts with instructions on how to do it here in the Galaxy Tab forums. Good Luck and be sure to read up before trying it. I have done it and its not too hard. Just be patient and read.
thanks, i was looking and cannot foud... i found and download euro rom, but it will give me 2g only, i don't want to use galaxy like a phone, i just need 3g internet connection.
to kable:
if you can drop me link, it will be so helpfully...and thank you for respond.
Have to use modem swither. 2g for calls and have 3g data.
Have to use modem swither. 2g for calls and have 3g data.
modem swither dont work for me, already tried. the problem is when i'm going online, browser sand me back to t-mobile site.
Google -> "t-mobile redirect."
First post.
You can't use data with a phone SIM card without possibly doing something illegal that I wont go into in this thread. Basically, the network realizes you have a phone data plan and that you are not on a device approved for that phone plan.
btyork said:
Google -> "t-mobile redirect."
First post.
You can't use data with a phone SIM card without possibly doing something illegal that I wont go into in this thread. Basically, the network realizes you have a phone data plan and that you are not on a device approved for that phone plan.
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thanks, I found and make switcher too, working perfect H on internet mode,and 2g on calls.
can you post a link to that switcher please?
Hi guys,
Was wondering if you could help with something.
I am in Bolivia at the moment and working out in a remote town with little WiFi.
The phone network ENTEL here sells '4G' dongles (hdpsa+ hupsa actually)* with unlimited data for no money at all so I picked one up. Plugged it into a computer, installed the software and it connected and works great.
However when I tried to put the SIM from my dongle in my Galaxy S2 it will not work. Just says emergency calls only and does not seem to connect to anything. I have enabled packet data and apn settings seem present.
With the same phone as a test I took a normal ENTEL sim card (not from dongle) and this connected to network and EDGE data and I was able to access websites etc over mobile internet no worries (although it costs a lot).
I'm sure none of you will be familiar with the Bolivia phone networks but perhaps on basic principals you can help. IE why doesn't my dongle simcard work in my phone for data?
Thanks so much in advance.
Bridgstfer.
bridgstfer said:
Hi guys,
Was wondering if you could help with something.
I am in Bolivia at the moment and working out in a remote town with little WiFi.
The phone network ENTEL here sells '4G' dongles (hdpsa+ hupsa actually)* with unlimited data for no money at all so I picked one up. Plugged it into a computer, installed the software and it connected and works great.
However when I tried to put the SIM from my dongle in my Galaxy S2 it will not work. Just says emergency calls only and does not seem to connect to anything. I have enabled packet data and apn settings seem present.
With the same phone as a test I took a normal ENTEL sim card (not from dongle) and this connected to network and EDGE data and I was able to access websites etc over mobile internet no worries (although it costs a lot).
I'm sure none of you will be familiar with the Bolivia phone networks but perhaps on basic principals you can help. IE why doesn't my dongle simcard work in my phone for data?
Thanks so much in advance.
Bridgstfer.
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If it's.like it is here in Costa Rica then the SIM cards used for the data dongles are coded for just that and can't be used in phones... Mainly because usage plans.are different they won't allow anyone to use it for data on phones whose plans data plans are twice as much.
Now if that's not the case there then it's probably hardware related such as in frequencies... The dongle SIM may be for a different radio band than what you're phone can pick up
My home 3g wifi modem stopped working 6 months ago so I now use my old galaxy s as the modem. The sim is data only that's meant for a dongle / pocket wifi but it works fine. Just had to enter the virgin broadband apn and that was it. The sim is a 3g sim and the phone is unlocked.
Never tried a 4g sim though. Very good chance the 4g uses a different network frequency than the phone supports. But I would think a 4g sim should still connect to the 3g/H/Edge frequencies.
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