Mapping keylock to a hardware button? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I haven't seen this question anywhere so i reckoned id ask..
I like to use my phone for listening to music but if you put it in your pocket id does all kinds of strange things - like opening PIE which starts a UMTS connection or it jumps to the next song..
I never use the videocall button on the phone, so why not map the built-in keylock to that one?
But does anyone know if this is possible/how to do it? can this simply be changed in the registry?
Thanks for any help.

I use vjay's device lock.
Get it here
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJDeviceLock

Hi. thanks for the quick response.
Works like a charm =)
but now i need to map the exe to the videocall-button. any ideas?

I beleive that the Video call button is button 5 on the left side of your phone. I have an 8525 so that button is PTT. I think if you try load the PTT fix it may open that button up. I am not sure about this so it you try that you may need to do a hard reset to get back if it messes up your phone. So make sure you have a current backup to quickly restore from.

Where ca you find the PTT fix?

spicer said:
Where ca you find the PTT fix?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279585&highlight=fix+ptt+cingular

hi. thx. but that wont work. the PPT button is not the video call button. i could of course map it to another one.

I use a program called double launcher got it at handango. It allows you to assign up to 4 different programs to each HW button. I only use 3 per button but it's real nice. It's done by press, -- double press, -- press and hold, -- double press and hold.
Check it out I assigned the VJ device lock to double press on comm manager.

Related

Start Menu with action button?

Is there a way to assign the action button to open the start menu or, preferably the cascading startmenus of wisbar? I had a search around but came up wih nothing
Nedge, which one do you want? There's different solution depending on which you want.
One way that would work on both is to use MortRun and send a left mouseclick to (0,0).
It's probably a bad idea to assign this to the actino button, even if you could, because then you'd lose the ability to use the action button. So how would you select anything?
V
Hehe, yeh i was thinking that but i thought there might be a today plugin or something that would monitor whether you were in the today screen or not. If you were: Action = Start Menu. If you weren't: Action= Select. Ah well, guess i'll stick with contacts button as start menu.
I'll check out mortrun tho, cheers
I used to use Buttonmax.
I found it quite flaky on the Magician, often losing button configs, and i think most of these buttonmappers are incompatible with password software that requires you to enter passwords using hardware keys (like 1-pass).
However, if it works for you, buttonmax allows per application mapping of keys, so yeah, that would work!
V
oooo...i'll try that, thanks
EDIT: So far so good with button max, working perfectly, just what i needed. Cheers

Jas-Jar Light Button

Any ideas on how to get the light button working on a jas-jar. Mine has not been working since the start and I've tried everything. The button Im talking about is the first from the right close to the infrared port on the outside of the device. It is supposed to turn on the flashlight but when I press it nothing happens and it doesnt even show up in the buttons applet in WM5.
Actually that button doesn't turn on the flashlight, though some here have tried to come up with a hack so that it would. I don't know if they were ever successful with that.
That button turns on the screen backlight when it has timed out but your device is still turned on. It's not the most useful button, which is why folks were trying to come up with a hack to make it more useful, for instance to turn on the flashlight like you wanted to.
Maybe if someone has had success, they will chime in here.
Change the button
Attached is a cab file allowing you to make use out of the light button to anything else :lol:
When yuo say anything else, does that include controlling the flashlight? Either way, thanks for the file.
Would be nice if one could assign it to turn on the keyboard backlight.
There is no option to adjust the sensitivite of the light sensor for the keyboard, and i think that it kicks in way to late.
Find my self holding the finger over the sensor and hitting a button to make it light up.
Any one aware og a possible Reg Hack to make this option appear in the Assing Button list?
Melty said:
When yuo say anything else, does that include controlling the flashlight? Either way, thanks for the file.
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I meant anything else with use, flushlight & the keyboard light do not have exe files in the buttons map menu :wink:
taiseer999 said:
& the keyboard light do not have exe files in the buttons map menu :wink:
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Nope i know that :wink: thats why i'm asking if anybody knows of a hack or the whereabouts of such an exe file..... Any ideas??
why dont u just change the option in the settings\buttons\backlight and take the tick off the box, and it works like a charm. everytime u press a key it lights up, sorted, and it doesnt affect the battery at all really
@Elmo
Well i didn't use that choise because i don't have any car charger yet. (Waiting for the Brodit kit)
I want to preserve as much battery as possible.........as you already know, this baby can eat your battery pretty fast............
Re: Change the button
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Attached is a cab file allowing you to make use out of the light button to anything else :lol:
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Is this the same as changing it manually on the registry?
Yes, it's my CAB file I posted a little while back that adds a registry entry so that you see it listed as "Button 5" in the Buttons setting applet.
elmo said:
why dont u just change the option in the settings\buttons\backlight and take the tick off the box, and it works like a charm. everytime u press a key it lights up, sorted, and it doesnt affect the battery at all really
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God, didn't know it was that easy... cheers!
Anyone any idea how badly this affects battery life?
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taiseer999 said:
Attached is a cab file allowing you to make use out of the light button to anything else :lol:
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Isn'it available for the Wizard too ? ...
I wrote a very simple script that turn on the camera and press the flash button.
I use the flash key and ms voice command to start it
you need to have MortScript installed. (include with this package)
A very simple question from a new owner -- where are the buttons defined that are assigned in Settings - Buttons? I don't see them labeled as "Button 1", etc in the User Manual.
davidinnz said:
A very simple question from a new owner -- where are the buttons defined that are assigned in Settings - Buttons? I don't see them labeled as "Button 1", etc in the User Manual.
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On your HTC Universal, go to:
Start>Settings>Buttons
From there you can change the assignments of the buttons.
Ok. I have found the 2 keyboard keys that are buttons 1 and 2, and the 2 external buttons that are buttons 3 and 4.
I must say that button 1 is not very useful for voice command, when the device is closed. I guess I could assign it to button 4 or button 5 with the registry hack.
On the supplied "headset", there is a microphone with a button on it.
- What does that button do?
- Is it possible to use it for Voice Command?
(I guess for that to happen, it first needs to be recognised as an assignable button in WM5).
The backlight button cab file is working. Now I can reassign that useless button becomes the OK button. Very useful when use it in the tablet mode. But I need two more buttons to use for the softkey. I have use the record button for the left softkey and have no more button for the right softkey. Any suggestion?
One more thing, the script for enabling the flash light does not work. It turns on the camera, but the flash light remains off.

Start button without using Stylus?

I'm probably missing something obvious but on my XDA Mini S I don't appear to be able to press the "start" button on the today screen via a hard button (used to be centre button on my old XDAIIs) without having to get the stylus out.
I'm sure we're both missing something, 'cus I concur.
However, if you find yourself desperate you can install my program VJKeypress (on my website) and use the command line 91 to pop the start menu. Make a shortcut and assign it to a hardware key.
V
i just slide the keyboard out a bit about .75cm and the start key on the keyboard is exposed, press it and VOILA!! hahaha, yah i thought the keyboard wouldn't work unless its out all the way but it does :lol:
i use my finger.
sometimes i miss
zsizsi said:
i use my finger.
sometimes i miss
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If God wanted me to pull the stylus out everytime, he wouldn't have given me fingers! also anything to hand (as long as gentle) ie a real pen (nib withdrawn or the ink might mark the screen), screwdriver, key etc.
Also screen protector so you dont damage anything
I made this for using on my i-mate k-jam.
After installation you can use left software key to Start
Why do you want to do this easy thing in such a complex way? Just open Settings, click Buttons and assign <Start Menu> to any of your hardware buttons. I have configured Button 1 to open start menu (it's messaging bu default) and Button 2 for <OK/Close> (that button is IE by default).
Priit said:
Why do you want to do this easy thing in such a complex way? Just open Settings, click Buttons and assign <Start Menu> to any of your hardware buttons. I have configured Button 1 to open start menu (it's messaging bu default) and Button 2 for <OK/Close> (that button is IE by default).
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thats what i did except have button 4 to ok/close and button 4 hold to start
Priit said:
Why do you want to do this easy thing in such a complex way? Just open Settings, click Buttons and assign <Start Menu> to any of your hardware buttons. I have configured Button 1 to open start menu (it's messaging bu default) and Button 2 for <OK/Close> (that button is IE by default).
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I guess its all about personal preference
I installed the above cab file as i already have all the hardware buttons set to what i want but never used the Calendar soft key and had been after a way to do this for ages so thanks kjk :wink:
Chris
Priit said:
Why do you want to do this easy thing in such a complex way? Just open Settings, click Buttons and assign <Start Menu> to any of your hardware buttons. I have configured Button 1 to open start menu (it's messaging bu default) and Button 2 for <OK/Close> (that button is IE by default).
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Yup, me too.
By far the simplest solution.
I did try installing VITO ButtonMapper so I could have multiple apps mapped to the buttons but it has screwed up my 'soft buttons'.
DON'T USE IT, or Battery Pack Pro for that matter as it screwed up the whole PDA.
RObin
Puckster said:
I guess its all about personal preference
I installed the above cab file as i already have all the hardware buttons set to what i want but never used the Calendar soft key and had been after a way to do this for ages so thanks kjk :wink:
Chris
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Glad to help
Robster said:
Priit said:
Why do you want to do this easy thing in such a complex way? Just open Settings, click Buttons and assign <Start Menu> to any of your hardware buttons. I have configured Button 1 to open start menu (it's messaging bu default) and Button 2 for <OK/Close> (that button is IE by default).
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Yup, me too.
By far the simplest solution.
I did try installing VITO ButtonMapper so I could have multiple apps mapped to the buttons but it has screwed up my 'soft buttons'.
DON'T USE IT, or Battery Pack Pro for that matter as it screwed up the whole PDA.
RObin
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i had the same problems with vito buttonmapper. toggling buttonmapper on and off a few times seemed to fix it. not very good i know but it works perfectly now.
I used to set the Comm button to act as the start button. Don't do that anymore these days because i needed the quick button to the Comm manager. Thank god for fingers
I still bind the memo/speech button on the right to the OK/Close button at the top right button. Found it easier to use when typing the the keyboard or in normal mode.
All well least it wasn't me being dim! thanks for all the suggestions but just don't have a spare button to remap.
You'd think that they would have bound the Today screen "Start" function to a press of the directional button as it doesn't do anything else when on the today screen(as it was on the Blue Angel), but maybe that's just too logical!
assigning START menu to a button doesn't work when u have tomtom running. The menu pops up and just disappears again. It works in most of other apps though.
Got it!!!!
Just discovered that holding down the left soft key for about 1 second(rather than just tapping it to open calendar) opens the Start menu.
This is the feature of Smartskey
But I don't have smartskey installed so this must be a default function
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But I don't have smartskey installed so this must be a default function
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Tried it here on my 2.24 ROM and it does not work. I press and hold for a second, also tried other varying lengths of time, and sure enough I always get the app the left soft button has been assigned.
Bizarre, works fine on mine - 2.21.4.1 Rom, 2.07 Radio UK XDA Mini S
Only apps I have installed are SPBBackup, Resco Explorer trial (expired) and TT5
Maybe a feature of the O2 UK Ext Rom?!?

Media Player continuing to stream when device is 'off'

Hi all,
I use the BT A2DP profile to stream music through the media player and one of the 'features' that differs from the K-JAM (wizard) and is lacking in the TyTN is the ability to continue that stream even when the device is 'off' (useful for saving battery, switching off the buttons, etc.). With the TyTN whenever the device is turned off the stream also ceases. Does anybody know if there is someway of ensuring that the media player is not switched off along with the device (I'm guessing a registry setting or similar).
All help very welcome.
Cheers
I was wondering this also. My wizard was able to be "off" and still stream. ANyone got any brigjt ideas?
Later, Lew
Have you tried just turning the screen off? PocketPlus has a utility called "Screen Toggle," which does just that.
When used in conjunction with the Button Lock (leaving only the power button active), you just might be able to solve your issue...
goestoeleven said:
Have you tried just turning the screen off? PocketPlus has a utility called "Screen Toggle," which does just that.
When used in conjunction with the Button Lock (leaving only the power button active), you just might be able to solve your issue...
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Yeah...what he said!
That what I do.
I really miss this feature to.
So there is no way to do it on the Hermes?
Its not particulary elegent to have to perform multiple steps to turn the screen off. it was much eaiser just to hit the off button and listen away...
I'm using VjDeviceLock wich is what you want, I think.
After you've installed it you should create a new shortcut in c:/windows/startmenu/programs/vijay555/vjdevicelock. You can copy an exiting one in this directory and edit the parameter. What you want is "-displayoff". I bound this to my Videocall-Button, cause I don't use video telephony.
If I listen to music I just have to press my Videocall-Button and VjDeviceLock turns off my screen and locks all Buttons except the power on/off one.
Also VjDeviceLock is just great to save money
If you get a sms or a call the device turns on itself. I once didn't notice this and called a random person out of my adressbook, because I had my trion in my pocket and were moving all the evening and somehow started a call.
This cannot happen again, because I started vjdevicelock with parameter "-install". Now everytime my trion turns on itself it gets automatically (re)locked.
thats a fantastic solution and it works really well!
what program are you using to remap the buttons?
Hi,
Does anyone else suffers strange key problems when using VJdevicelock;
After using -displayoff or -displaytoggle and resume back to normal, phone buttons (call/disconnect,videotalk) doesnt work anymore, it need to be softreseted before the buttos work again?
-Kha
EDIT:
just found out that when resuming from -displayoff, after pressing windows and ok softkeys, dialbuttos work again!
I'd appreciate if somebody here could advice me on how to map VjDeviceLock to VideoCall button on my TyTN (I have original TyTN ROM and the VideoCall key is functional ). I couldn't remap it using Buttons configuration utility in Settings.
as I said you have to create a Shortcut in your Startmenu. Shortcuts in Startmenu are shown as available possibilities in Start - Settings - Buttons (Perhaps it's called a bit different. I'm using a german version where it's called 'Tasten')
This is how I remapped it. I don't use a special program.
I use the device lock on today plugins.
S.K.
silent_killa said:
I use the device lock on today plugins.
S.K.
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This does not turn off your screen AND your device is sometimes getting unlocked when you receive calls or sms.
Remapping VideCall button
sn00x said:
as I said you have to create a Shortcut in your Startmenu. Shortcuts in Startmenu are shown as available possibilities in Start - Settings - Buttons (Perhaps it's called a bit different. I'm using a german version where it's called 'Tasten')
This is how I remapped it. I don't use a special program.
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Thank you very much for your instant response. I did all you mentioned in your message and I remapped the VideoCall button (is it the Button between Buttons 4 and 5 ? ) but pressing it still doesn't activate VJDevice. Any other suggestions?
Is the device locked when you click on the shortcut?
If not: edit an existing shortcut, let's say "VJDeviceLock About.lnk". Make it point to: \Programms\vjay555\VJDeviceLock\VJDeviceLock.exe" -displayoff
It is right that there is only one "
When I open my shortcut in a text editor the content is:
Code:
64#"\Programme\vijay555\VJDeviceLock\VJDeviceLock.exe" -displayoff"
Yes. The device locks when I click on the shortcut itself but when I press VideoCall button, to which I had previously mapped the link, the Dialpad pops up.
sn00x said:
I'm using VjDeviceLock wich is what you want, I think.
After you've installed it you should create a new shortcut in c:/windows/startmenu/programs/vijay555/vjdevicelock. You can copy an exiting one in this directory and edit the parameter. What you want is "-displayoff". I bound this to my Videocall-Button, cause I don't use video telephony.
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How can you do this? Are you using a third party app? I see no way to bind anything other than 5 buttons on my device...
I bound it to "Button 5".

Want to remap hardware buttons freely...how ? (and some other tweaking-requests)

Does anyone know a registry hack yet for making it possible to remap ALL hardware buttons (or at least the OK button below the jog-wheel, cause this seems to be hard-coded to the Windows-menu) !?
Preferably a reg-hack that (re)enables this options in the regular \Settings\Buttons tab...
Another problem i want to fix (apart from the ROM being immature) is the fact that i have to go all the way into the Bluetooth-settings on the CommManager screen to connect my Jabra 620s in stereo/audio-mode, which is quite anoying and timeconsuming...
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
Anyone able to help me here ?
PS: i'm quite experienced WM user dating back to the Wyvern/PalmsizePC CE 2.12 devices...but i just can't seem to find my way around these huge registries in todays devices anymore... guess i'm getting old...
Anyone please ...?
I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
Mark One said:
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
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I don't have my Trinity yet, but have you tried some of the 3rd party Button remappers that are available? Magic Button etc.
forcedalias said:
I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
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I got my Trinity last friday and am using a 2Gb MiniSD card and so far no problems with it. I feel no real delay when coming out of standby mode and no problem at all with the MiniSD card, maybe you got a early version of the ROM that contained this particular problems.
I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine.
Lets see if someone suggests a good 3rd party tool to remap the buttons and then everybody is happy ;-)
VC with BT headset
Moaske said:
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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Yes...you're right...it does work when the screen of my trinity is on. But offcourse when listening to music the screen is gonna be off...
The button on the headset does activate voicecommand when device is on (ie screen on) and no music is playing. But i'd rather have it understand my commands like "what track is this" while music plays (without having to take out the phone of my pocket).
As for the button-mapping: i'm familiar with the buttonmappers out there, but another application on my trinity is just not what i need... Is there really no way to get to this functionality through the registry ? I've searched quite a chunk of the registry but gave up; i just can't find it...
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...I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine...
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Precisely: one handed operation... That's what i want, so i want the button next to the jogdial to be the ALT+TAB function (which is available through Spb PocketPlus)...so i want to be able to map this to whatever button i like, not just the 2 options HTC gave me... (i don't count press'n hold as an extra button).
I think it's quite ridiculous to have TWO buttons activating the startmenu, and have them hardcoded to that. What's the point in 2 buttons doing the same thing ?
Being able to change the 'Windows' button woukld also be a fine sollution...
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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i tried it, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware button !!! >.<
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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i tried AE Button Plus, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware buttons
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Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
V
tommytao said:
Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
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And pressing Camera button, the Start Menu Button event will be triggered. it seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
vijay555 said:
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
V
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OK OK !!! Let me find him
tommytao said:
[...] It seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
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So it seems AE Button Plus is not the THE perfect tool for that, anyone tried another soft ?
Hi guys,
I'm too looking for a way to remap the startmenu-button for e.g. starting an application. No 3rd party software I tried so far is able to do so...
Any suggestion how to reassign the startmenue button to call a specific application?
Cheers
Punga
AEButton Plus maps all but the standby button...
... on my Wizard. Well, it doesn't touch the soft-reset, the camera gets funky when I try to map it, and I can't seem to move the vibrate function off the hold "Comm Manger" Key. Given I've got 50 different hardware button options, (or 37 added if I leave all the default functioning in place) with this nifty shareware (basically fully functional if you want to use it free forever), who cares about the dumb camera button (not in the count above).
My biggest problem is remebering where I mapped it all. My second is making decisions about how to map them.... :|| (that's a repeat sign in music-talk)
You gotta try it. I'd be curious to find out how it works on your hardware.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php

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