SmartSKey Remapping - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hey everyone, sorry to start a new thread on this but the existing thread on SmartSKey is WAY too long and quite honestly I just have a simple question.
Can the OKKEY=1 command be used with the Cingular 8125? It doesn't seem to be working for me. The program is absolutely fantastic, but I wouldn't mind having the ability to close programs with the OK Key .. which so far seems to only work on the Prophet. Is the Wizard supported as well?

One more question about this program.
Is it possible to remap the LSKEY and RSKEY to open programs other than "Calendar" and "Contacts"? I wouldn't reprogramming those to something else, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do it with WM alone. Can SmartSKey make this possible?
Thank you all for any/all help!!

yes and yes.
google 'soft key remap control panel' or words to that effect, also go to ppcfreewares.com

Awesome .. found it here.
I still can't get the OKKEY=1 thing to work out tho .. it always just hides the app and doesn't actually close it. Anyone have any advice? Thanks.

i may have misunderstood your first question, the default setting is to minimise, if there are other options such as close, i don't know of them or how to edit. sorry

bbobeckyj said:
i may have misunderstood your first question, the default setting is to minimise, if there are other options such as close, i don't know of them or how to edit. sorry
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Ahh .. I see. Well if the default is to mimize then that's fine as well, it's just that the ReadMe file that comes with the software says to use the OKKEY=1 command with the CLOSEAPP=1 command so that kind of threw me off into thinking that the OK Key can be used to close an application as opposed to minimize/hide it.
The ReadMe file says:
"OKKEY=1 (0 or 1)
Set OKKEY to 1 allows phone with OK button (e.g. Prophet) to do force close function (use with CLOSEAPP, EXCEPTIONLIST)
CLOSEAPP=1 (0 or 1)
Set CLOSEAPP to 1 if you want to close app instead of hiding it using the left soft key. (DEFAULT 0)"
So that leads me to believe that using the CLOSEAPP and OKKEY commands together will allow the OKKEY to do the same as the LSKEY .. which is to force close the app instead of minimizing. Am I misreading this or is it still possible to do that?

i always have had it in a rom, never bothered to dl the app itself until now to look at the read me file. i don't really understand the instruction, maybe it's for devices with a dedicated ok button to actually close, because the left soft key hold opens the start menu, changing 0 or 1 will only turn it off or on not add another function.

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Remapping the volume slider?

Has anyone figured out how to remap the volume slider on the Wizard?
I hardly ever want to change volume, just turn on/off vibrate mode which is a single keypress anyway, but i would really like it to be an up/down control like my old Dell Axim.
I know it functions like this in IE full screen mode, but I really want it for everything (especially MS Reader).
I think a lot of people would like this. It allows a better grip on the phone whilst moving within the app you're using (eg: MS Reader).
Any guru's got an idea about this one?
Joe
Remapping
Absolutely neccessary thing to fix (volume slider)!
And as using double-language hard-keyboard layout I am in desperate need to remap the change-layout sequence.
What about remapping in this OS, is it possible to do something?
Someone did this on the Magician (found it in that group on here at the time), I remember finding it very useful!
If someone could do a Wizard version that would be great!
Solution Found
Here is how you do it (and it was on the Magician forums, thx for the tip :wink: ):
Install the program found at the URL below, or from the attachment as you wish.
When you get the setup screen, choose "Do not handle" for all except the volume slider, which is set to up/down.
Ok it, and there you go, slider is now up/down and works in MS Reader, Today screen, and general folder browsing.
It says on the site not to put it on any device not listed as compatible, which doesn't include the Wizard, but "He who dares, wins..."
I am well chuffed with it. Now I am all ready for my commute on Monday.
http://ae.inc.ru/download/AEBPlus.zip
Joe
Unless this is a new version. DO NOT USE AEB+ WITH A WIZARD
I tried AEbuttons plus awhile ago and It deleted a couple of my buttons. I dont think it is meant for a device with as many buttons as the wizard. I had to go in and manually create the buttons again. I told it to handle all buttons though. Maybe telling it to only handle the volume slider doesn't cause this problem. I won't try it again until they actually say the wizard is compatible.
I just checked all buttons having read your post.
The only casualty is the connection manager button, which now only switches from audio vol. on to vibrate ringers when held down, and I have an icon on the today screen to go there anyway.
I can live with that
BUT BEWARE: No comms manager button = no hard reset = what do you do when you need to hard reset?
guttrhead said:
Unless this is a new version. DO NOT USE AEB+ WITH A WIZARD
I tried AEbuttons plus awhile ago and It deleted a couple of my buttons. I dont think it is meant for a device with as many buttons as the wizard. I had to go in and manually create the buttons again. I told it to handle all buttons though. Maybe telling it to only handle the volume slider doesn't cause this problem. I won't try it again until they actually say the wizard is compatible.
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How did you restore the buttons?
Never mind:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33795
joebongo said:
The only casualty is the connection manager button
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BUT BEWARE: No comms manager button = no hard reset = what do you do when you need to hard reset?
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I just checked if it is possible to restore the connection manager button after installing AE Button Plus, and it seems to work
Just add these registry keys after you have installed the software and you have all your buttons back and an up down slider:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\40C6]
"Flags"=dword:00000000
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Comm Manager.lnk\""
"Icon"="\\windows\\CommManager.exe, 0"
"Name"="Button 5"
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Comm Manager.lnk\""
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\40C5]
"Flags"=dword:00000000
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Record.lnk\" -b"
"Icon"="\\windows\\HotVoice.exe, 0"
"Name"="Button 4(Hold)"
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Record.lnk\" -b"
You can put this in a .reg file and open it on your Wizard to import into the registry
I don't think Windows minds the button to be remapped for a hard reset, the hard reset will probably still work if the button is remapped by software.
Did you figure out which reg entries are actually changed when the slider is remapped by AEB? If we can figure this out, we could create a file to do this without the need to recreate.
I am also getting slowdowns/crashed on syncing via USB, and am beginning to wonder if this is another AEB effect.
Joe
joebongo said:
Did you figure out which reg entries are actually changed when the slider is remapped by AEB? If we can figure this out, we could create a file to do this without the need to recreate.
I am also getting slowdowns/crashed on syncing via USB, and am beginning to wonder if this is another AEB effect.
Joe
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I can't find any slider registry entries, but I have no idea where to look
I have noticed that once I close the AEB program my slider doesn't do anything anymore, so it might be possible that it is not just a registry entry

Help! Slow input type selection window!

When you need to input text, you can click on the icon at the bottom of the screen to bring up the text entry area. You can tap on the little triangle beside the icon to bring up a window to select between block recognizer, keyboard, letter recognizer, phone pad, and transcriber.
On my 8125, it is taking a long time for this window to pop up after tapping the triangle. It is taking a few seconds, when it used to take maybe 1/3 of a second. It is quite frustrating!
Why is is doing this? And what can I do to speed it up like it used to be?
This has happened before. It was when I first got the phone and was installing apps and games on it. One day I noticed this slow behavior, and I ended up doing a hard reset and slowly adding my apps and registry tweaks back on one at a time to see what would cause the problem. Well, nothing caused the problem and it stayed fast for a long time.
Then yesterday I updated to Summiter's latest ROM and started adding my apps back on. This text entry type window was working just fine through most of it, and suddenly as I'm finally finished putting everything back to where I want it, this problem is back!
Help! I don't want to do another hard reset already!
I have the same problem, I use transcriber as SIP but since it takes so long to show up when you click the triangle, I just put a shortcut to transcriber.exe in the start menu folder. So, I just use the Programs menu, it's much faster
I like to switch between letter recognizer, keyboard, and transcriber. I suppose I could put links to them in the start menu, but it would be so much nicer if I could just figure out why it's being so slow!
Any ideas?
I've read this is due to having MS Voice Command installed, although I haven't confirmed this myself.
I have the problem and never installed Voice Command, so there must be another explanation
anyone idea what the keyboard exe is called?
thanks
This is supposedly caused by a bug in the OS. I use an application called 'Smartskey'. There is a setting that talks about reboot notification for a Wizard. This affects the time it takes for the input method choice popup-. See the text about it from the manual:
REMOVEDUPSDDAEMON=0 (0 or 1)
Only for HTC Wizard. The function is originally not related to SmartSkey. The HTC Wizard contains a program called sddaemon that is the voice command program for wizard. It contains a bug that it will automatically create one more
notification for each reboot. It will make the program slower and slower after a number of reboot and overflow the notification system. To set this to 1 will automatically remove the duplicated notification event. If you are a user of Wizard, it is suggested to set it to 1. The flag is harmless for other machines.
I cannot remember where I downloaded the program, but if you search this forum, you should be able to find a copy.
i dont use smartskey, so is it something else causing my slowdown? i dont understand.
is that a reg key your talking about there?
funy said:
i dont use smartskey, so is it something else causing my slowdown? i dont understand.
is that a reg key your talking about there?
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Smartskey isn't the problem. It solves a problem with the OS. zIt appears that every time the device restarts, it makes a record in a log file somewhere. Eventually, the log is so full, it takes longer and longer to pull up the menu. I don't recall all of the details, but I found it here. You can probably search to find more information.
The setting I put in the post is a smartskey.ini setting to resolve the problem.
thanks, might give it a try then
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Smartskey isn't the problem. It solves a problem with the OS. zIt appears that every time the device restarts, it makes a record in a log file somewhere. Eventually, the log is so full, it takes longer and longer to pull up the menu. I don't recall all of the details, but I found it here. You can probably search to find more information.
The setting I put in the post is a smartskey.ini setting to resolve the problem.
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just put that ley in but stil doesnt seem to have done anything

Change your Default Calendar Version 0.01

I made it as simple as possible to change your prefered Calendar Manager, I use ThumbCal, which seems quite popular here. As downloaded, the script is setup for ThumbCal, but to change it all you have to do is edit the first 2 lines with a text editor.
Run the script and your Softkeys, links, and "Today Plugin" all call up Thumbcal, run again and it switches back to Office (Outlook) Mobile!
Does not support 3rd party software, for SPB Mobile Shell support see this thread.
MortScript is requied, download it here.
I hope you find this useful!
To use:
1. Download and unpack the ZIP file.
2. Edit the first 2 lines in the MSCR file, notepad works fine for this.
set AltCalendarName, "ThumbCal"
set AltCalendarPath, """\Program Files\ThumbApps\ThumbCal\ThumbCal.exe"""
3. Copy to your device, and make a shortcut.
4. Click the shortcut and answer the "Yes or No" question.
5. Repeat step 4 to swap between the two calendar managers!
NOTICE: I have seen this many of times, some softkey mapping software (most likely Spb Mobile Shell, this one does it the worst) hijacks the "calendar" softkey and redirects it to the "exe" instead of the "lnk". In any case this patch will still effect the Calendar Today Plug-in. You can remap your softkey with the mapping utility, how ever Spb Mobile Shell limits what you can select, so an additional one is recommended.
WOW..great thinking..
It has been asked abt Hundred of times to replace the Default Crappy Calender
Any screen shoot???
this is EXACTLY what i was looking for. thank you very much. if it doesn't take too much of your time and you can make one for changing the HTC Home Media Player to S2P instead of MP or HTC Audio Manager.. it would be fantastic.
THANK YOU
Just what I have been waiting for. There was nothing worse than having calendar items on the today screen, then pressing on them and it taking me to the default calendar, which I dont even use anymore. i had taken calendar off my today screen altogether. Now its back!!! thanks a bunch for this one.
Any news to get this feature on SPB mobile shell ?
change it easy guys.
as far as I know,I changed my calendar with the thumbcalc 0.51 simply with SK TOOLS.
There is a button change option.And many other offcours as well.But this is the easy way,without aknoledge of serious programming or programms..
helios
heliosismagic said:
as far as I know,I changed my calendar with the thumbcalc 0.51 simply with SK TOOLS.
There is a button change option.And many other offcours as well.But this is the easy way,without aknoledge of serious programming or programms..
helios
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Hi!
Can u tell me which menu plz?
black_shadow69 said:
Any screen shoot???
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No screens to shoot actually, its just a simple click "yes" or "no" dialog.
nir36 said:
this is EXACTLY what i was looking for. thank you very much. if it doesn't take too much of your time and you can make one for changing the HTC Home Media Player to S2P instead of MP or HTC Audio Manager.. it would be fantastic.
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Dont use that program, but I will take a look just to see if its do-able.
flouk said:
Any news to get this feature on SPB mobile shell ?
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Will be looking into that this week, looks complicated at the moment, but I think it will be possible.
is this not working for anyone else? :/
EDIT: NiteStalker, I checked my file paths, and everything is correct, when I press the .mscr file to toggle calendars, it tells me my default calendar has changed, but when I actually check my calendar "softkey" it has not changed.
Is there another script I could run to acheive the same effect?
UPDATE: I have also tried changing the File paths, and then changing the file location acoordingly with no result. I'm going to try to run it from the root, and see if it works.
UPDATE II: Launch off the root doesnt work, im going to check and see if the original Calendar is in the place referenced in the script for my device. (XV6900)
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is this not working for anyone else? :/
EDIT: NiteStalker, I checked my file paths, and everything is correct, when I press the .mscr file to toggle calendars, it tells me my default calendar has changed, but when I actually check my calendar "softkey" it has not changed.
Is there another script I could run to acheive the same effect?
UPDATE: I have also tried changing the File paths, and then changing the file location acoordingly with no result. I'm going to try to run it from the root, and see if it works.
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I run it from \Application Data\Mortscripts, but where its placed doesn't matter. When I run it my 'Softkey', 'Program Menu Link', and 'Today Screen Calendar Plug-in' all work. I'm using ThumbCal 0.51, but it shouldn't matter what app you run.
If the today plug-in works, but your softkey isn't, it's possible you have remapping software changing the default calendar link. If you have a softkey editor ensure it's pointed to the "calendar.lnk" in your start menu.
Also make sure you have 3 quotations (""") in front of and after the {set AltCalendarPath, """\Program Files\ThumbApps\ThumbCal\ThumbCal.exe"""}. If your missing even one, it will malfunction.
If none of this works, I don't know what to say, except that I run it on WM6.1, and my friend runs WM6.0, and it works on those.
I'm stumped, can anyone point me in the right direction?
EDIT: one sec. i posted at the same time as you. im reading.
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I'm stumped, can anyone point me in the right direction?
EDIT: one sec. i posted at the same time as you. im reading.
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Most important thing, did you download and install MortScript?
If need be, paste your edited lines so I can take a look.
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Most important thing, did you download and install MortScript?
If need be, paste your edited lines so I can take a look.
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EDIT: Yes I have MortScript.
Well, I re-installed TouchCal and whent back to the original script, it works on the today plugin, but not the softkey, so, as you said somethiing is being remapped. How would I fix this?
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EDIT: Yes I have MortScript.
Well, I re-installed TouchCal and whent back to the original script, it works on the today plugin, but not the softkey, so, as you said somethiing is being remapped. How would I fix this?
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find your remapping software, "EZ Softkey" or "Mobile Shell 2" and remap to the "calendar.lnk" in the start menu.
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find your remapping software, "EZ Softkey" or "Mobile Shell 2" and remap to the "calendar.lnk" in the start menu.
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How about a plot twist, I've never heard of either, and havent used any form of remapping software, should I just remap it to the correct place anyhow?
I may as well give it a shot.
UPDATE! I did it, when I looked at the mapping of the softkey it was going to "calendar.exe" instead of "calendar.lnk" so I just mapped it straight to touchCal for now, but now im curious and want to see if i can find the "calendar.lnk"
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How about a plot twist, I've never heard of either, and havent used any form of remapping software, should I just remap it to the correct place anyhow?
I may as well give it a shot.
UPDATE! I did it, when I looked at the mapping of the softkey it was going to "calendar.exe" instead of "calendar.lnk" so I just mapped it straight to touchCal for now, but now im curious and want to see if i can find the "calendar.lnk"
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Calendar.lnk is in [\windows\startmenu\programs] usually, it can move around there. Remapping to that would allow you to successfully swap between the apps if needed.
ANYWAY I am glad we were able to solve your problem.
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Calendar.lnk is in [\windows\startmenu\programs] usually, it can move around there. Remapping to that would allow you to successfully swap between the apps if needed.
ANYWAY I am glad we were able to solve your problem.
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Yes, thank you for taking the time to help me out, I apreciate it. I also apologize for going off topic.
NiteStalker said:
find your remapping software, "EZ Softkey" or "Mobile Shell 2" and remap to the "calendar.lnk" in the start menu.
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I am using "mobile shell 2" how do I remap it to "calendar.ink" so that thumbcal works please.
ozmale said:
I am using "mobile shell 2" how do I remap it to "calendar.ink" so that thumbcal works please.
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settings> System> SPB Mobile Shell> Today Tab
Thats the path to your softkey remap in mobile shell

X1ButtonMapper - Extends the keyboard and other buttons

Hey guys,
I developed a small application which adds functionality to the X1 keys and keyboard. The reason why I made this program is, that I can't find a decent button mapping tool out there that does what I want - that is:
Extend the normal keys with long press and assign programs/functions to it
Extend the keyboard with a Control key (Tab key is reassigned to control key)
Assign missing FN+Key combination with additional special character or applications
Assign the ok button with really closing an application, depending on your task manager
To achieve this, I was writing this small app which itself checks for specific key events and starts mort script files in case such an event happens. I chose Mortscript because it easily allows everyone to define about almost everything that is possible and the application doesn't need a fancy UI to configure the key events.
You can find a readme within the archive which describes the program in more detail and you can also find some example script files for MortScript as a starting point.
For installation, you have to copy the X1ButtonMapperScripts folder of the archive to your root (\) directory of the device. You also need to install MortScript which you can find at Mort's homepage (mort.sto-helit.de). MortScript is a small and powerful application which is often used and mature. After that, you have to start X1ButtonMapper.exe and then the specific key presses will cause the calling of the script files. When you did not encounter any problems (software is still in testing phase), you can copy a link to the X1ButtonMapper.exe into your \Windows\Autostart folder for automatic loading at reset.
My current configuration, just for example, is as follows:
Ok short press closes an application, Ok long press (~500 ms) causes an app to minimize
Long press of left softkey opens start menu
Long press of right softkey opens MortButtons
Long press of volume up opens comm manager
Long press of volume down opens SPB task manager (Alt+Tab)
FN+a/s/d/f writes special characters I miss on the keyboard (%_\€)
FN+y/x opens Wifi network selection and resco explorer (FN+C/V are unused)
I would appreciate to get any feedback about this software, if it works, what you like, don't like and desperately miss.
Please be aware that this software is free and you are allowed to redistribute it, but please don't change it and always distribute the whole zip archive and not the extracted files!
Please be also aware that this software is in a testing phase and may hang up your device and may even cause data loss (not happened to me yet but theoratically possible). So please backup your data and be aware that I can't be held responsible in case this happens!
Update: V. 1.2 now allows to keep the original OK button function without change and to use Fn+Tab for sending the original Tab key!
i havent used your program but when i was looking for one such as yours, i came across ae button plus. im not familiar with scripts and programing and so i find ae button plus a good program. its not free but for $8, i think its worth it.
otherwise, keep up the good work. we need people like you to get the most of of our phones.
Would it not make more sense to remap the au key rather then tab key to ctrl? I use my tab key for form entry.
AE Buttons plus cannot do what this program does, that's why I did the hassle to develop it. Also PQz2 doesn't do what I need. For example you can't assign FN+x combinations with AE buttons plus and you can't remap the ok button (at least it didn't work for me).
Regarding the tab key, I tried to make FN+Tab to send the tab key, but that didn't really work. Maybe in some next release it will work, but I still think that the Tab key is dispensible.
Regarding the scripts, it's really easy and you can find ready scripts for almost any task. Also I did include some examples as a starting point. The scripts offer a lot more flexibility than any of the button mapping tools existing, so, take the challenge, it's worth it!
Pyrojester said:
Would it not make more sense to remap the au key rather then tab key to ctrl? I use my tab key for form entry.
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Did I miss something or does this remap ctrl to tab? That would be a HUGE thing in my opinion... And no, the au button is used here a lot...
Yes, remapping Tab to Ctrl is one of the fixed mappings it does. One of the most powerful things and something I really missed with AEButtons.
With Ctrl on the keyboard you get copy and paste, wordwise navigation with the cursor, Undo/Redo and wordwise delete/backspace. Check the readme in the Zip File for more details.
I also added Fn+DPad for PageUp/Down and Home/End - also something I really missed before.
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Yes, remapping Tab to Ctrl is one of the fixed mappings it does. One of the most powerful things and something I really missed with AEButtons.
With Ctrl on the keyboard you get copy and paste, wordwise navigation with the cursor, Undo/Redo and wordwise delete/backspace. Check the readme in the Zip File for more details.
I also added Fn+DPad for PageUp/Down and Home/End - also something I really missed before.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will instal later today...!!!!
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[*]Extend the keyboard with a Control key (Tab key is reassigned to control key)
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and I am officially blind...
Can this program work alongside aebutton plus? That would be great as they both have big advantages. I know this version of the CE core of WM only supports one key hook and I am pretty sure aebp uses a key hook. Are you using a key hook here? Is anyone using both? Great work!
Actually I uninstalled AEButtonsPlus before I was starting the development of this application. There is indeed a limitation about keyboard hooks in WinCE and my program uses them - don't know about AEButtonPlus.
There is a software available which claims to remove this limitation of windows mobile - it is called HookMgr and you can download it for free - check Google. I did not test it nor would I recommend to install several applications using keyboard hooks - they will most likely interfere with each other.
What is it that AEButtonsPlus has that you miss with my application?
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Actually I uninstalled AEButtonsPlus before I was starting the development of this application. There is indeed a limitation about keyboard hooks in WinCE and my program uses them - don't know about AEButtonPlus.
There is a software available which claims to remove this limitation of windows mobile - it is called HookMgr and you can download it for free - check Google. I did not test it nor would I recommend to install several applications using keyboard hooks - they will most likely interfere with each other.
What is it that AEButtonsPlus has that you miss with my application?
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I did not know about that HookMgr software. Interesting.
I have not yet had the chance to try AEButtonPlus, but I believe it allows programming the short press and also double press of all the keys (was not aware of the ok key limitation). Is there a reason why you only provide long press options? Double press is not really necessary, but I would like to change the short press options. IIRC (I should probably stop making comments before my X1 even arrives but can't help it. so exciting) out of the box, only the short press of the soft keys is configurable. It would still be nice if you grabbed these so that I could configure all my buttons in the same place. Also, it doesn't seem that you provide a way to program the short or long press of the panel key. Would this be possible? Lastly, it might be good to make changing tab to ctrl optional and or offer another key to change. The addition of a ctrl key is great, but tab is also useful. The original renderings of the X1 back in January showed a ctrl key on the keyboard. Dont know who's idea it was to delete it.
I would love to help out. I could write a settings application for you that would store the options in the registry. Rather than running the scripts, it could look in the registry for what to execute. By default the registry values would just be the scripts, but users could change it to run an exe directly. I could also make a cab for it. The settings app would be in .NET. Let me know if this sounds good.
BTW, I think the ok and win keys would make good ctrl keys btw, as they are redundant to the keys on the front; ok button being my choice.
JKingDev said:
Is there a reason why you only provide long press options? Double press is not really necessary, but I would like to change the short press options.
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I only provide the long press option because detecting double or even triple clicks would delay every button click and therefore reaction time, that's why I didn't realize it. I kept the short press of the keys (except OK) because they all make sense to me. You need the Softkeys, so their short press needs to be kept and the loudness up/down is essential in my opinion.
I also decided not to allow to remap the camera button because its handling is a bit difficult (two press levels) and I think the camera button is necessary when you really consider using the camera.
I also left the hang up and pick up buttons untouched because they already have short and long press actions (devicelock and handsfree) and I did not want to touch functions which are installed pretty deep into the system. I also like the function the way it is.
JKingDev said:
Also, it doesn't seem that you provide a way to program the short or long press of the panel key. Would this be possible?
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Sure I did - actually I wanted to map it with opening the start menu but it can't be suppressed, not even by a keyboard hook! By the way, this is also the case with the symbol key - can't be remapped!
JKingDev said:
Lastly, it might be good to make changing tab to ctrl optional and or offer another key to change. The addition of a ctrl key is great, but tab is also useful. The original renderings of the X1 back in January showed a ctrl key on the keyboard. Dont know who's idea it was to delete it.
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Yeah, the ctrl button was one of the main reasons why I wrote this application. Also that the X1 keyboard leaves many Fn+Letter combinations unused which is just stupid. As I said, I wanted FN+Tab to send the tab key but that didn't work for some reason. Also I think that Tab is disturbing when writing because when touching it for accident you get holes in your text :/
JKingDev said:
I would love to help out. I could write a settings application for you that would store the options in the registry. Rather than running the scripts, it could look in the registry for what to execute. By default the registry values would just be the scripts, but users could change it to run an exe directly. I could also make a cab for it. The settings app would be in .NET. Let me know if this sounds good.
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Actually I don't see any problem with the scripts. They offer a lot more flexibility that a UI can ever give and for newbies the experienced could offer a set of reasonable scripts, so I don't see any issue with this. MortScript is easy to use and way more powerful than any button mapper UI on the market - why do people always want GUIs?
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BTW, I think the ok and win keys would make good ctrl keys btw, as they are redundant to the keys on the front; ok button being my choice.
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First of all, you can't separate between the ok key of the keyboard and the ok key on the front on the level of the keyboard hook, so it would be impossible to remap the one without the other. The win key is not redundant and therefore I decided to keep it because I find it very useful.
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First of all, you can't separate between the ok key of the keyboard and the ok key on the front on the level of the keyboard hook, so it would be impossible to remap the one without the other. The win key is not redundant and therefore I decided to keep it because I find it very useful.
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Ah. That stinks about the ok key.
Dandie said:
I only provide the long press option because detecting double or even triple clicks would delay every button click and therefore reaction time, that's why I didn't realize it. I kept the short press of the keys (except OK) because they all make sense to me. You need the Softkeys, so their short press needs to be kept and the loudness up/down is essential in my opinion.
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True. I wasn't really interested in double and triple. Just really the short. About the softkeys, normally I would not remap soft keys, but the X1 has a shortage of customizable buttons so I would like to change them.
Dandie said:
I also decided not to allow to remap the camera button because its handling is a bit difficult (two press levels) and I think the camera button is necessary when you really consider using the camera.
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Interesting. On my tilt, I had short press opens camera album and long press opens the camera. Something similar would be interesting. Not a big thing though.
Dandie said:
Sure I did - actually I wanted to map it with opening the start menu but it can't be suppressed, not even by a keyboard hook! By the way, this is also the case with the symbol key - can't be remapped!
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That stinks! Why do they insist on forcing panels on us? I do believe there is a registry key that can change what the panel button does though. You should look into that if you dont use the panels or just dont want a dedicated key. I am trying to find that info.
Dandie said:
Actually I don't see any problem with the scripts. They offer a lot more flexibility that a UI can ever give and for newbies the experienced could offer a set of reasonable scripts, so I don't see any issue with this. MortScript is easy to use and way more powerful than any button mapper UI on the market - why do people always want GUIs?
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Lol. I guess its not necessarily a GUI but just options that would be good. You are right, the scripts are very flexible so no point in changing that. The only options I would really like is a choice about the ctrl key (possibly make the win key an option) and an option of whether or not to capture the short press soft keys.
Thanks for takin the time to explain all of your decisions. This is really great software! Hope I dont seem like I am asking a lot. Just some suggestions. Thanks!
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About the softkeys, normally I would not remap soft keys, but the X1 has a shortage of customizable buttons so I would like to change them.
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You can remap the Softkeys already in the button configuration of Win Mobile, but I personally wouldn't do it. Better to remap them for the today screen via registry and using the long press events from my software for additonal functionality. This way it doesn't interfere with the sytem at all.
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That stinks! Why do they insist on forcing panels on us? I do believe there is a registry key that can change what the panel button does though. You should look into that if you dont use the panels or just dont want a dedicated key. I am trying to find that info.
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Well, I think that's just the way it is integrated into the system. Maybe by some kind of driver or something. The "sym" key behaves the same way. We have to live with that fact.
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The only options I would really like is a choice about the ctrl key (possibly make the win key an option) and an option of whether or not to capture the short press soft keys.
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The softkey can originally already be remapped and for the tab key the best solution would be FN+Tab = Tab. I will have a look into this again.
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Thanks for takin the time to explain all of your decisions. This is really great software! Hope I dont seem like I am asking a lot. Just some suggestions. Thanks!
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Yeah, that's fine. I would actually like some feedback from people who tried the software. Anyone?
Here it is for those who want to know:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448067
(Remap panel key)
I finally installed this today and it reminded me the about the good things the Touch Pro has that I previously owned. It truly amazes me that HTC does not put the ctrl key to their HW keyboards, it makes no sense to me.
I started to think that maybe it would be better to use the win key for this, win key kinda is there on top of the screen?
EDIT: and now I bothered to read posts above... fn+tab=tab could also be a good option.. After all tab is not used that often...
Great work on this, one of the best things made to X1 by XDA member so far...
At least someone having the guts to try my software - thank you for the positive feedback!
Regarding the Win-key, I wouldn't remap it because:
1. I'm using it often
2. The win key is often sent in combination with other keys and it will cause some side effects to remap it - that's why I gave up on this idea
When there's more feedback and some problems discovered that are necessary to change, I will have another look into this FN+Tab issue.
By the way, having Tab remapped to Ctrl also has a good benefit - accidental clicks on tab don't happen anymore.
Hmmmm MortScript messed up my OK button.

How to disable "footprint" on right hardware-button?

Hi,
I would like to disable the footprint-application from the right hardware-button, but it dosn't work. In registry under HKLM/Software/Microsoft/shell/keys I've made two new entries (40C1 and 40C2), so I can choose now the two hardware-buttons in preferences. But when I lay another program to the right hardware-button, this programm starts together with footprint...
The left hardware-button is no problem, it works fine with every programm I want
Thanks
oese
(sorry for my bad english, I hope you can understand my problem...)
Looks like it is somehow hardcoded into the TouchFLO interface. I managed to "unmap" the left key (simply by uninstalling TomTom), but I had no success with the Footprints key so far.
I think that some program or registry setting is responsible for these keys mapping.
I've managed with ae button plus to assing a different application to these keys, but the default apps run again with the new apps. And I think that because you uninstalled tomtom, just they didn't find the app and for this is not running with the new assinged app.
I don't think that is touchflo related.
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I think that some program or registry setting is responsible for these keys mapping.
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I am not sure mate, tried to look almost everywhere in the registry with no success. But I'll keep trying, the Navi and Footprints buttons sux. I'd rather have Diamond's/HD's Back and Home keys, if nothing better.
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I've managed with ae button plus to assing a different application to these keys, but the default apps run again with the new apps.
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Got the same result too, when tried to map another app with AEBP.
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And I think that because you uninstalled tomtom, just they didn't find the app and for this is not running with the new assinged app. I don't think that is touchflo related.
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Sure, I know it just doesn't find the app, but at least it got me rid of TomTom (I am an iGO 8 user). I admit it's quite lousy workaround.
I think I found something.
Seems that the function of these buttons loading as a service.
I've managed to unbind the left button by stop the NaviService(NPS0 and I think that
the service App Service(APP1 is responsible for the right button, but I cannot stop this service.Needed further research though.
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I've managed to disable it from registry(HKLM\Services\App). I changed Context and Index values to 0 and seems that the button is unbind now!
Needed to set these services to not automatic start also. This can be done with FdcSoft Task Manager 3.1
Ok, after some time playing around with my registry, I found a workaround how you can start a different program with the footprint button:
(BTW I have a German version so I'm not sure how the features are called in English, so if anyone can describe what I write next clearer, please feel free. Thx)
First you have to go to system preferences. In the system tab you'll find an option where you can make some adjustments about A-GPS and Place Settings. In the left tab you can activate and deactive A-GPS and tell your device which provider to use to access it. In the right tab you can tell the device not to notify you if some HTC software wants to start this feature which monitors the place where you are. Check this box.
This will keep the Google notifier to pop up every time you press the footprint button.
The go to the registry:
\HKLM\Software\HTC\FootCam
and simply change the path in there to any program you want to use with the button. e.g. \Program Files\ThumApps\ThumbCal\Thumbcal.exe
Well, works well, but do you have any idea if disabling these services does not cause any other issues?
After a hard reset I did the following
- installed the 40C1 and 40C2 reg key
- set the the NaviService(NPS0) to manual
Both buttons can now be used by Windows without any issue so far. No more changes were needed for me. Hope that helps. (I have a HTC Guide, that is the O2 branded version)
Sebastian
I mentioned that few posts above.
The problem is that when the NaviService doesn't run, NaviPanel doesn't start automatic when in carkit mode, even if this option is checked in carkit settings screen.
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- set the the NaviService(NPS0) to manual
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Hi,
where I can find this setting?
oese
dancer_69 said:
I think I found something.
Seems that the function of these buttons loading as a service.
I've managed to unbind the left button by stop the NaviService(NPS0 and I think that
the service App Service(APP1 is responsible for the right button, but I cannot stop this service.Needed further research though.
EDIT:
I've managed to disable it from registry(HKLM\Services\App). I changed Context and Index values to 0 and seems that the button is unbind now!
Needed to set these services to not automatic start also. This can be done with FdcSoft Task Manager 3.1
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sorry for my stupid question
it works for my iolite...
THANKSALOT
Left Key
HKey_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\NaviService
Turn «Flags» from 0 to 1
For me it works
U can read this (its in german), include a reg-file to dissolve this and a navipanel.lnk for start menu
Greetings Mirko
angeja said:
HKey_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\NaviService
Turn «Flags» from 0 to 1
For me it works
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that thing disable my both buttons for some reason. and copilot and footprnts!! well it looks that it works for me atm.
You can use AE Button Plus, you can assign 4 different actions to each button.
Dontatos said:
that thing disable my both buttons for some reason. and copilot and footprnts!! well it looks that it works for me atm.
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Before read THIS
Then use "Start" - "Settings" - "Hardware-Buttons" to change assignment.
Greetings Mirko
Yes It Works,
Followed the steps and it works. I assigned foot prints to put phone in standby ( screen off / on ) The Off works quick, the On has a delay but I will get used to it.
Set the NAVI to Manual Start is the trick

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