max hsdpa speed? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Does anyone know what is the maximum HSDPA speed on th TyTN? 1.5 or 7.2 mbits?
Thanks

1.5mb. That is the max speed for the chip in the tytn.

I thought the protocol of first generation was 1.8Mbps.
Second gen. is 3.6Mbit/s

HSDPA - theoretical vs actual
Yes, the theoretical speeds are 1.8 Mbps, 3.6 Mbps, 7.2 Mbps, 14.4 Mbps download speed for HSDPA. Of course the emphasis here is on "theoretical" assuming ideal environment, no other users, sufficient backhaul capacity, proximity to base station etc. The next generation, HSUPA will support faster upload speeds as well, also in multiples of 1.8 Mbps.
The Hermes supports, again theoretically, 1.8 Mbps download speed based on HSDPA. HTC Kaiser is expected to support HSUPA as well, but not sure at what bandwidth.
Practical speeds I've seen on my Dopod 838 Pro range from 650 - 850 kbps most of the times, with very rare peaks of 1.1 Mbps max. Plentiful in any case ...
Some interesting bits on HSxPA market adoption and trends here http://www.gsacom.com/.

Indeed it comes down to theory. However the point of the question was how fast the Tytn can be.
The point is that is not the chip that dictates the speed but the protocol that "chip" is usibg. You know just to continue the whole chip metaphor.
I myself have never reached anything over 500kbps... ever. But remember that no one is ever going to hit 1.8mbps due to packets and the way info is transferred through the architecture.
Wikipedia has some interesting breakdown of all the technologies.

I've seen 1.2mbps on my laptop through HSDPA here in Brum (whilst using the phone as a wireless modem) - once you let the device settle down, leave it in one place, it gets pretty decent speeds. It's VERY picky about where I have it in my room though, because the house kills all the 3G signal. In town, it's fine, but the handset's CPU just slows everything down anyway.
Most I've ever seen is a peak of 1.28Mbps, I've seen regular near-500kbps upload speeds though! Which is very nice. @ agovinoveritas - sounds like you're not HSDPA-enabled, you're just surfing at regular 3G speeds (576kbps, iirc?)... You tried ringing up your network operator and blagging HSDPA off them?

^^^^^^ Here in Canada, they have only "soft" released it. Basically what that means is that since most people here are not very tech savvy, the providers announces HSDPA to be available but they are still testing it. Just to show you how cheesy that is, they have not even released any HSDPA enabled devices yet. Just a Sierra Aircard, and since the amount of people out of the general population who would use just a Sierra aircard is minuscule you can see where they are going with this....
They get PR points for releasing the technology first even though they do not give anyone any phones to go along with it. For those of use WHO HAVE hsdpa devices, if we call, the CSRs either do not know what the hell they are talking about or they will use the "we do not support your handset" cheat out.

I've peaked just above 800kbit on the Hermes so far. Same as what I get with my Treo 750v + HSDPA hack.

On my Cingular 8525 the fastest I've got is about 800kbps.

1.2mbps here. Thing is my device doesnt show its connected to HSDPA?!?
Both the icon and fieldtest_157 dont show that im connected!? (this is during a download)

hsupa firmware
the upgrade from umts to hsdpa was made possible in the samsung chip on the treo 750 via a firmware upgrade, maybe it is possible to firmware upgrade to hsupa

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the upgrade from umts to hsdpa was made possible in the samsung chip on the treo 750 via a firmware upgrade, maybe it is possible to firmware upgrade to hsupa
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for the hermes no it is not

HSUPA reqyires a different chipset ( QC 7200 ). Hermes cannot be upgraded
UPA basic will be available this June in the USA. The full featured HSUPA is not ready yet.

just wanted to say that here in little old denmark i get speed between 170-180 Kb\s translated thats about 1.4 mbit.. and very stable must be close to a good station as for upload i get the full 384 kbps

ive gotten 1333

charon72 said:
just wanted to say that here in little old denmark i get speed between 170-180 Kb\s translated thats about 1.4 mbit.. and very stable must be close to a good station as for upload i get the full 384 kbps
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Mike

In Australia on Telstra you get about 1.2 Mbps - 1.4 Mbps.

Hmm well considering you are paying through the nose for data if you are wish Telstra than I'd say a "lowly" 800kbit is better than 1.4mbit.
$79.95 for 1GB? No thank you. I'm happy with 1GB data + unlimited email + other stuff for $30

^^^^ I trump you! $50 (CAD) for UNLIMITED.
Just last month I downloaded over 2gigs!!!!
Yeah, I am the biggest geek on this hill.

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In Australia on Telstra you get about 1.2 Mbps - 1.4 Mbps.
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when your close to a tower and not in a building...

Related

how fast is your 3g??

I currently live in los angeles but on g1 I average about 600kbps. But before the update I averaged about 800-900kbps. Maybe its just a radio issue/
This is from Niagara Falls Canada on the Rogers network
I'm in markham Ontario Canada. In a building with 2 bars signal on the Fido Network.
Thanks for the test link AC!
How accurate is that site? It says I have 13,128kbps on edge xD
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How accurate is that site? It says I have 13,128kbps on edge xD
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wow i wish i could get that speed
edit: just ran the test twice and got 6.01Mbps and 7.41Mbps(i'm on EDGE) i think it lies
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How accurate is that site? It says I have 13,128kbps on edge xD
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are you sure you're reading it right? if so...JEALOUS.
Yeah I think its something up with the site, ran again now I have 8969 kbps which is still way off for edge
1 test
Another..
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It's pointless to fine-grain compare bandwidth test results of an internet connection with a shared interface (in this case the 2G/3G air interface) since the amount of load on the interface is changing constantly. At best you could use your speed test to get in the ballpark (i.e. to confirm you are really on HSDPA) but to say 'my radio dropped my download speed from 800Kb/s to 600Kb/s' is probably erroneous because a difference of 200Kb/s is definitely well within the variation of an air interface. Unless of course you conduct a controlled experiment with both radios with many data points and you can actually draw a distinct correlation.
Edit: By the way a somewhat more accurate bandwidth test is here:
http://i.dslr.net/tinyspeedtest.html
Atleast most of you have the 3g network. Here in my area of CT we only have the Edge network. I wonder what's taking tmobile so long to make it available in my area.
I generally get 400-600kbps on good 3G signal.
You're being measured by kiloBITs per second, not kiloBYTEs
http://www.unitconversion.org/data-storage/kilobits-to-kilobytes-conversion.html
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Speed test is wrong
the way the cellular internet works: all data in all networks are sent in packets of information. if you run a longer test then you will get a more accurate reading. mine said 572kb/s
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the way the cellular internet works: all data in all networks are sent in packets of information. if you run a longer test then you will get a more accurate reading. mine said 572kb/s
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Not wrong, but not accurate.
There is no accurate way of testing, as there is no constant speed.
Somedays you might get a really high measure on speed test, while you might get a low speed that is unheard of on other days.
So I mostly agree with you xDDD
dwright48 said:
the way the cellular internet works: all data in all networks are sent in packets of information. if you run a longer test then you will get a more accurate reading. mine said 572kb/s
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b=bit B=byte, just so you know.
One should also keep in mind that bandwidth tests usually only test the speed of a single connection. As anyone who has used a multi-part download manager knows, you can usually get a higher overall throughput with multiple connections going. This seems especially the case with UMTS networks, where carriers probably throttle down individual connections to try ensuring that each user gets a fair slice of the pie.
I notice that I get the fastest speeds on my 3G when I am downloading usenet files (10 concurrent connections, each connection only downloading a few hundred kb at a time). While I might max my single connection download speed at 400 Kb/sec (50KByte/sec), I can usually get about 1.5MBit/sec when running multiple connections to a fast server. It's not the 3.6MBit/sec advertised, but not bad either.
scrub scrub
edge:
inside my apt 8480 kbps
outside my apt 8436 kbps
3g:
inside my apt 6206 kbps
outside my apt 6400 kbps
I did 3 test for each one and chose the fastest of the 3
and they wonder why i leave my phone on edge....
this was in northwest Austin Texas
842 kbit/sec (dslreports.com/mspeed) Near O'Hare Airport
xjreyes said:
edge:
inside my apt 8480 kbps
outside my apt 8436 kbps
3g:
inside my apt 6206 kbps
outside my apt 6400 kbps
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This CAN NOT be real. you can't even get 10% of that speed on EDGE.

3g speeds

what kind of 3g speeds are you guys getting.... i'm only averaging about 350-400 kbps here in hawaii on stock rom.
We're lucky where I live...mobile speed test says: 4325kb/s...not the worst ever...lolol...and I get about that when I speed test while tethered...
~Jasecloud4
I only get 700-800kbps the couple times I tested mine.
228 kbps
jasecloud4 said:
We're lucky where I live...mobile speed test says: 4325kb/s...not the worst ever...lolol...and I get about that when I speed test while tethered...
~Jasecloud4
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What speed test utility do you use when you're tethered? mobilespeedtest.com is known to give wildly inaccurate (sometimes even impossible) results..
Hello Everyone,
I find if I use Opera Browser for www.mobilespeedtest.com I get realistic results.
If I use IE browser, I get some very unrealistic results.
Also, Read My Thread Here, I think we are being throttled but T-Mobile's network limiting the RWIN.
Even run the TCP/IP Analyzer yourself.
Thank you,
Monnie
700-800kbps pretty much always (but i'm in the middle of nowhere so I'm not surprised)
230 kbps in dallas TX. Every time i call them they say there's a outage i sip code blah blah blah. When i tell them im no using those towers they say well its the entire city....And there script is "we don't guarantee high speed internet as long as your able to connect" On my Nexus one i got 500kbs all the time...I don't know what to say but lease sprint hurry with EVO
600-700 kpbs depending where I'm at
HA you guys are all lucky im in CT and get 200kbs and max of like 230 lmao! horrible!
I just ran it again
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I just got mine at a whooping 63 kbps!
Update: Re-run it and got it down to 33!!!!
Update 2: Oh no, it went up to 447!
Sweet!
Hey Ma! Look I gots dialup in me pokets!
fort wayne, IN
600-900 kbps down
80-110 kbps up
1030 Kbps Down
280 Kbps UP
Tim Brazil
TMOUS HD2 in Hsdpa
Test made in speedtest.net with IE mobile with Kumars rom
I have never got it that fast in a mobile in Brazil before, very pleased.
Connected to PC as modem, I get from 1000 to 4500, but this is a problem from TIM, I don't know why but they cannot limit my connection when connected to PC, normally it should be limited at 1Mbit for my plan.
Greeting Santroph
mine is waaaaaay faster at night than it is during the daytime. like 10x faster. in the daytime i linger around 100-200k at night i am upwards of 1200k
sirphunkee said:
What speed test utility do you use when you're tethered? mobilespeedtest.com is known to give wildly inaccurate (sometimes even impossible) results..
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Miami, Florida is where the tests were run: Speak Easy speedtest when tethered (as speedtest.net doesn't like to work right ). On mobile I speedtested using dslreports speed test. Tests were run at 7:30pm. Hope this helps.
i get about 3500-6000 kbps with opera mini, and like 500-1200 kbps with opera 9 or 10
illconn said:
HA you guys are all lucky im in CT and get 200kbs and max of like 230 lmao! horrible!
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Sam here in fairfield county, CT. Im getting 126kbps in opera mobile...even though I have an 'H' icon on the task bar! PIE gives me unrealistic results, which never translates into real world usage speeds. im gonna be so jealous when the Evo 4G drops for sprint. Ive always gotten upwards of 2 or 3MB in my area with sprint's 3G service. I love my HD2, but tmobile's crappy, unstable data speeds, kinda brings down the excitement a few notices.
Is anyone trying to use the hd2 w/ the flex pay internet plan?
I'm paying $10 a month for unlimited internet. It worked fine on my unlocked iphone 3gs.
jasecloud4 said:
Miami, Florida is where the tests were run: Speak Easy speedtest when tethered (as speedtest.net doesn't like to work right ). On mobile I speedtested using dslreports speed test. Tests were run at 7:30pm. Hope this helps.
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Ok cool, thanks...I just thought you were saying you had used speedtest.net, and I just cringe whenever I hear anybody referring to test results from there. Sometimes they're spot on, but sometimes they're flat out rediculous, and the results are all over the place...enough so for me to not be willing to guess which ones can be believed and which can't

Data speeds on the Vibrant?

Coming from an N1, anyone noticing decreased data speeds? They both support 7.2 and T-Mo isn't above that, so shouldn't you see roughly the same?
hah2110 said:
Coming from an N1, anyone noticing decreased data speeds? They both support 7.2 and T-Mo isn't above that, so shouldn't you see roughly the same?
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wifi 9,842 down, 1,589 up best
3G 920 down, 602 up best
My n1 never seen above 5,200 down on wifi
my n1 never seen above 800 down and 550 up on 3g
I don't know if this has anything to do with it but I have mine set for GSM atuo prl
Slightly faster data speeds and I run them all........the.............freaking.............time.
Not a world of difference from the N1 and it may only be a placebo effect but I'll put it this way: You certainly won't lose speed when you upgrade to this phone. First speed test went north of 3Mbps and that area consistently got me 2.4-2.6Mbps with the N1.
First time I ran speedtest app I got 565kbps down and 1258kbps up...looked reversed to me.
Ran it again just now and got 979 down 582 up.
It's seems to be pretty random on the test, but real-usage on the browser is fast enough to have me very satisfied.
I'm in Miami, FL
Hmm.. I am getting anywhere from 2 to 2.4 Mb/s Down and 1.7 Mb/s Up (Raleigh/Cary NC).
The Vibrant doesnt support HSPA+ so the max you could get is 7.2mbps. Not sure if the N1 is HSPA+ compatible though.
niether does the N1...its maxed at 7.2 also
2-3Mbs down, 1-2Mbs up. Norfolk, VA.
400-600kbps down, 400-600kbps up. Virginia Beach, VA.
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2-3Mbs down, 1-2Mbs up. Norfolk, VA.
400-600kbps down, 400-600kbps up. Virginia Beach, VA.
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those are twice the speeds i'm seeing here in richmond, va with a MyTouch 3G (still waiting for my vibrant to arrive)
I'm in Tampa, FL and it depends on the latency on my end. When it says I ping at around 150 ms, the speeds hit below 1 Mb/s. When it's below 120 ms, my speeds are always above 2 Mb/s. This is download of course, upload just sucks period.
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Im getting like 3.0 mbps everywhere i go. Even no bars, seems fast to me.
I haven't been able to test 3G yet but I'm getting:
(With wifi) 1 out of 3 bars, Imagine what it would be if I had full bars!
12172 kbps Down
2047 kbps Up
I love having wireless N support in this phone as my last one only had G and it was getting 7900 down.
On WiFi:
16416 Down
1508 Up
I pull about the same speeds on my desktop over a wired connection.
On 3G
5581 Down
576 Up
This is in Milwaukee, WI to a server in Chicago. I think the speed is great, especially when I compare it to my daughters speed on Sprint and friends on AT&T.
first speed test i took i for 4.7mbps down, ~500kbps up
in dallas our downstream is ****in awesome, upstream has always suffered.
Wifi -
N1 specs- 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n
54 Mbit/s
Samsung Vibrant - 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n
108 Mbit/s
Should def be seeing faster wifi speeds.
Should see faster and better bluetooth also since N1 is 2.0 and Sammy is 3.0
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Wifi -
N1 specs- 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n
54 Mbit/s
Samsung Vibrant - 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n
108 Mbit/s
Should def be seeing faster wifi speeds.
Should see faster and better bluetooth also since N1 is 2.0 and Sammy is 3.0
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the vibrant has an 802.11n radio, but only in the 2.4GHz operating freq.
wifi
14.37 down 2.10 up
3g
3.23 down 1.46 up
I have 4.5mb down and 1.3 up. Coming off the my touch 3g it is faster
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Hspa+ speedtest issues

I'm speed testing at my home and I usually get great speeds. But since yesterday when I start the speed test it will jump to 500k/bs and then bog down to 2g speeds? Is this tmobile limiting me? And when I ever I try to tether it will connect.and then disconnect.devices frequently... I just loaded the ICED ROM, and love it. But I dont think thats the issue. Please help me out guys.
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Could be tmobile data throttling you. DAMN THEM!
Please post questions in Q&A section.
Tallyphillips said:
I'm speed testing at my home and I usually get great speeds. But since yesterday when I start the speed test it will jump to 500k/bs and then bog down to 2g speeds? Is this tmobile limiting me? And when I ever I try to tether it will connect.and then disconnect.devices frequently... I just loaded the ICED ROM, and love it. But I dont think thats the issue. Please help me out guys.
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Take a look at what Gattling had to say about this:
T-Mobile Speed Throttling in the G2 Forums
Hmmm, it does seem a bit odd that TMO/anyone would throttle bandwidth via a file stored on the device itself - as opposed to back at the host. I can't vouch for the functionality of the contents of that dir (data/system/throttle) though.
It just seems silly to manage at the client level, as opposed to server-side. Provisioning of this nature is usually managed at an account-level at the host.
A few things I've encountered in my time w/ TMO...
- At the beginning of the year, I was only getting about 800 kbps down and 200 kbps up. I called TMO and eventually got escalated up to someone that seemed to know what they were talking about. In the Orlando area, he felt I should've already been getting better speeds than that (and hinted at the eventual roll-out of HSPA+). Ultimately, nothing came out of the troubleshooting and my speeds remained as they were.
- I was given a free CliqXT back in April and noticed the same speeds (800/200). I called in and the first thing they had me do was swap my SIM card (and use the new one vs. the one I had with my G1). Things started to change for me at this point and I started seeing 1 mbps/500 kbps speeds.
- As months went on, our speeds eventually got better and better. Before our new MyTouch 4G's, we were getting 3 mbps-5mbps, depending on the time of day. I'll go grab my Speedtest.net log from my old CliqXT so you can see the gradual incline throughout 2010.
I'm now getting a steady 8-10 mbps down and 600-700 kbps up...
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Which servers are you testing with?
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Hmmm, it does seem a bit odd that TMO/anyone would throttle bandwidth via a file stored on the device itself - as opposed to back at the host. I can't vouch for the functionality of the contents of that dir (data/system/throttle) though.
It just seems silly to manage at the client level, as opposed to server-side. Provisioning of this nature is usually managed at an account-level at the host.
A few things I've encountered in my time w/ TMO...
- At the beginning of the year, I was only getting about 800 kbps down and 200 kbps up. I called TMO and eventually got escalated up to someone that seemed to know what they were talking about. In the Orlando area, he felt I should've already been getting better speeds than that (and hinted at the eventual roll-out of HSPA+). Ultimately, nothing came out of the troubleshooting and my speeds remained as they were.
- I was given a free CliqXT back in April and noticed the same speeds (800/200). I called in and the first thing they had me do was swap my SIM card (and use the new one vs. the one I had with my G1). Things started to change for me at this point and I started seeing 1 mbps/500 kbps speeds.
- As months went on, our speeds eventually got better and better. Before our new MyTouch 4G's, we were getting 3 mbps-5mbps, depending on the time of day. I'll go grab my Speedtest.net log from my old CliqXT so you can see the gradual incline throughout 2010.
I'm now getting a steady 8-10 mbps down and 600-700 kbps up...
Which servers are you testing with?
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Exactly what I thought. I also wondered why they would rely on the handset to handle provisioning, considering the inevitable hacking that would take place. Then again, I can't determine the purpose of the throttle file either. The values make absolutely no sense to me. I'm testing with the closest server to Dallas (Provo, UT). The best speeds i've seen on my MT4G have been around 4mbps, that was by DFW Airport where the signal seems to be about as strong as it's going to get in the DFW Metroplex. I don't know what I'd do if I started seeing speeds of 8-10mbps... This is using my new SIM that came with the MT4G too.
***Now the Texas servers are showing up, still same results though***
The area i live in does not have 4g but 3g. So i am getting speeds of 300 to 500 kbps download. On 3g i should be getting better speeds than this. Tech support said these speeds i preety good for 3g. My old att phone gets better speeds than this on edge.

HSPA+ Improvement

I know that the Atrix will not be compatible with AT&T LTE. When comparing Verizon's LTE with ATT's HSPA+, Verizon blows it out of the water. While I know that HSPA+ will never be as fast as LTE, does anyone know if there are plans to improve the speed of HSPA+ on ATT? I think it's able to perform speeds of 14 mpbs but the reports I have seen actually put it at 2-4 mbps.
Thanks,
Matt
Bracemg said:
I know that the Atrix will not be compatible with AT&T LTE. When comparing Verizon's LTE with ATT's HSPA+, Verizon blows it out of the water. While I know that HSPA+ will never be as fast as LTE, does anyone know if there are plans to improve the speed of HSPA+ on ATT? I think it's able to perform speeds of 14 mpbs but the reports I have seen actually put it at 2-4 mbps.
Thanks,
Matt
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They could very easily increase our speed, but the real question is "will they?".
It might be they are going to keep HSPA+ where it is because the network won't handle the volume of traffic, or might be because they want people to jump on LTE when they start that, (enthusiasts buying new LTE phones so they can utilize the faster speeds). in reality, we don't know, but can hope!
AT&T is slowly improving backhaul from what I hear. This should increase it pretty significantly, as T-Mobile is making similar improvements and seeing speeds in the 5+ mbps range. The most I've seen is 4.7 Mbps on my Atrix (up from 1.5 on my old Aria), so I know that the phone is capable of pretty significant speeds. The HSPA+ 14.4 radio on the Atrix is likely to top out at around 7-10 mbps once all the network improvements have been finished.
Most of the towers are fast enough already but they get bogged down easily by many more people using it than it can handle, when they increase bandwidth you'll see improvements
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AT&T is slowly improving backhaul from what I hear. This should increase it pretty significantly, as T-Mobile is making similar improvements and seeing speeds in the 5+ mbps range. The most I've seen is 4.7 Mbps on my Atrix (up from 1.5 on my old Aria), so I know that the phone is capable of pretty significant speeds. The HSPA+ 14.4 radio on the Atrix is likely to top out at around 7-10 mbps once all the network improvements have been finished.
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I almost broke 7 Mbps down this morning. Upload is a steady and consistent 1.2 Mbps.
I get 3.5 down and 1 up... I have no 4g here, at least that's what it says in about phone.
SIGH.
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Appologies for my ignorance, but what app are you using to measure speed?
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I get 3.5 down and 1 up... I have no 4g here, at least that's what it says in about phone.
SIGH.
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Appologies for my ignorance, but what app are you using to measure speed?
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Speedtest, pretty much the standard we all use:
Speedtest Mobile
If you use it, make sure to check settings and select the server closest to you. Speedtest can have a habit of picking a very distant server for you. Also, it sometimes pays to try different servers, as speed results will vary depending on the server and who runs it.
CaelanT said:
Speedtest, pretty much the standard we all use:
Speedtest Mobile
If you use it, make sure to check settings and select the server closest to you. Speedtest can have a habit of picking a very distant server for you. Also, it sometimes pays to try different servers, as speed results will vary depending on the server and who runs it.
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Just as a recommendation, if you get consistently varied results on the Speedtest app you can try different servers but also try http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/. It seems to give me far more consistent results, but I'm not sure about anyone else. The desktop page should load fine with that strong Flash support!
Yup, Speakeasy is another good one!
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