Related
I know I can edit my Registry Settings to either charge via USB or no - but I am wondering if there is a program ( or someone talented enough can program one ) to turn on/off USB charging.
What's the registry setting? I'll put it into VJEschaton.
V
Hi, cool!
the key is here:
OFF:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\usbfndrv
EnableUsbCharging=0
ON:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\usbfndrv
EnableUsbCharging=1
I attached the complete export of the registry setting for on/off.
Does this work? I've never heard of it before. But I'm not very WM5 yet. I'm still old skool...
V
Please excuse my ignorance, but for what reason would you disable USB charging ?!
vijay555 said:
Does this work? I've never heard of it before. But I'm not very WM5 yet. I'm still old skool...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, it works - I tried in the past, and just double-checked. Batti happily says the thing is still on battery, and the regular battery indicator is shown.
gazzrenn said:
Please excuse my ignorance, but for what reason would you disable USB charging ?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe they have a very crappy laptop and don't want to waste laptop battery on re-charging their pocketpc. Or maybe they're playing a game with a joystick on a USB hub and the joystick goes unresponsive intermittently due to slightly too little charge to the joystick. Who knows
I'm certainly turning it back on as soon as ActiveSync lets it respond again
Reason is that I have an active CarKit ( it would charge the battery on the PDA ), then I have a USB Dock at home and office. So I change the place of my PDA at least 3 Times a day and I don't want the battery to be charged all the time.
So I decide myself when/where the PDA actually gets its "juice" - thats all
You do know that with the Wizard's battery, you don't have to worry about "battery memory" or any of that nonsense... i.e. you don't have to let the battery fully discharge before charging to extend the battery life, or any other archaic knowledge!
Just because its a lithium-ion battery does not mean that charging cycles do not have an effect on the battery life.
True. LithiumIon does not have a the memory effect as do NiMh batteries have. BUT as stated, every battery, that also includes LithiumIon batteries do have a specific number of charging-cycles.
So if you want to get the most out of a notebook battery or in this case a PDA battery you should also consider taking care of it and that means do not charge it if not needed. This will considerable raise its lifetime without problems.
DREAMBOXER said:
Just because its a lithium-ion battery does not mean that charging cycles do not have an effect on the battery life.
True. LithiumIon does not have a the memory effect as do NiMh batteries have. BUT as stated, every battery, that also includes LithiumIon batteries do have a specific number of charging-cycles.
So if you want to get the most out of a notebook battery or in this case a PDA battery you should also consider taking care of it and that means do not charge it if not needed. This will considerable raise its lifetime without problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that's not true, li-ion is best when kept from deep discharges. you can charge whenever you want, because if it's near full and you recharge it, that doesn't count as a full charge cycle. it will actually damage the battery if you always empty out.
@Dreamboxer:
Wikipedia:
Unlike NiCad batteries or NiMH batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can read the entire text here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_batteries
or you use the german wikipedia site. Keep in mind: Do not discharge it below 40% and you are able to prolong its life.
Wusste ich auch nicht
Aha! Now I am smarter Thanks alot for the information - well I guess one can never learn enough :wink:
So I don't think there's much point to this really...
Yep, you should all know that allowing the battery to discharge heavily can cause long term reduction in performance. Topping up is advised for these batteries, unlike ni-cds.
V
Oddly enough I can think of a use for this.
For a while I've occassionally noticed that if I connect my XDA to a certain laptop or use certain alternative cables etc usually if the battery level is below a certain point then the XDAii (Hima) actually discharges instead of charges (ok ok I know I'm wandering into Wizard realm). I think this has been posted as an issue several times over in the Hima forums (but I'm not swearing to it). The trouble is you only find this out when you are in the circumstance and usually want to carry on syncing or working so it would be quite good to be able to decouple the charging function (assuming that it would protect against discharging).
Anyway, bumped my gums enough... off for a brew and a return to Hima forums.
Regards - Mallow1
Is there a registry key for doing the same in magician? Thanks!
JwY said:
DREAMBOXER said:
Just because its a lithium-ion battery does not mean that charging cycles do not have an effect on the battery life.
True. LithiumIon does not have a the memory effect as do NiMh batteries have. BUT as stated, every battery, that also includes LithiumIon batteries do have a specific number of charging-cycles.
So if you want to get the most out of a notebook battery or in this case a PDA battery you should also consider taking care of it and that means do not charge it if not needed. This will considerable raise its lifetime without problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that's not true, li-ion is best when kept from deep discharges. you can charge whenever you want, because if it's near full and you recharge it, that doesn't count as a full charge cycle. it will actually damage the battery if you always empty out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are right, but DREAMBOXER also!! You should not discharge a Li-Ion battery completely - but the charging cycles for Li-Ion are limited, as for any other type of battery! In fact a Li-Ion has a maximum number of cycles of around 500, whereas NiCd batteries can be charged more than 1000 times! :!:
When continuously charging the battery I estimate that you will have to buy a new one in around one year - I realized the effect of continuous charging with my first notebook - after half a year almost always connected to the power socket the battery was crap, although I never had let it deeply discharge! With my new notebook I always take out the battery when I have a power socket - after one year the battery is still like new!
However, the effect of continuous charging also depends on the charging electronics - I assume that some progress has been made in this area...
If you are planning to use your Wizard for no longer than half a year, this point is of course not relevant for you... :wink:
EDIT: I just read the Wiki entry - they also write a lot of crap:
"A unique drawback of the Li-ion battery is that its life cycle is dependent upon aging from time of manufacturing (shelf life) regardless of whether it was charged, and not on the number of charge/discharge cycles..."
Don't believe everything that's written down there - the lifetime of a LiIon battery DEFINITELY depends on the charging cycles!
DoctorT said:
Don't believe everything that's written down there - the lifetime of a LiIon battery DEFINITELY depends on the charging cycles!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the beauty of a wiki - you can change it. Did you?
ZeBoxx said:
DoctorT said:
Don't believe everything that's written down there - the lifetime of a LiIon battery DEFINITELY depends on the charging cycles!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the beauty of a wiki - you can change it. Did you?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didn't think about that before... :lol:
I just changed it - just added a "just" as I don't have the time to think about an overall revision:
"A unique drawback of the Li-ion battery is that its life cycle is dependent upon aging from time of manufacturing (shelf life) regardless of whether it was charged, and not just on the number of charge/discharge cycles."
agree with doctorT, you are quite right,TBOMK.
DREAMBOXER's advice isn't correct.
Please, help with subj.
Hi Guys Im Tired Of Wasting My Time To Charge The Battery Of Dopod U1000. It Takes 4 Hour To Get Full Charge. Any One Have Any News About External Battery Charger? Other Pda Have This Kind Of Charger You Put Your Sencondarly Battery On That External Charger And Your Main Device Battery Got Lowe You Switch The Battery With The Charged Battery And You Put Your Emapty Battery To That Device(external Battry Charger) For Full Charge. Do You Guys Know Where Can I Find That I Kind Of Charger?
emilnaeri said:
Hi Guys Im Tired Of Wasting My Time To Charge The Battery Of Dopod U1000. It Takes 4 Hour To Get Full Charge. Any One Have Any News About External Battery Charger? Other Pda Have This Kind Of Charger You Put Your Sencondarly Battery On That External Charger And Your Main Device Battery Got Lowe You Switch The Battery With The Charged Battery And You Put Your Emapty Battery To That Device(external Battry Charger) For Full Charge. Do You Guys Know Where Can I Find That I Kind Of Charger?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Firstly, i am tired of you double posting all your question, second, there are lots of solutions, and i have no idea why it takes 4 hours for you to get full charge, it only takes less then 2 hours for me, and how often do you charge your device? if you are a power user, then when do you use your device most often? you see, when i am home or in the office or in the car, i always plug the Athena for charge, can you not do the same? most of us here don't wait for the battery to get fully drain then start charging.
There is no external battery charger right now, (unless you buy another Athena and use that for charging....haha). They will be an official Athena dock which support spare battery charging, GPS for Less site is also offering another Dock which has the same function. However they are both not out yet.
Meanwhile, if you really want to get more battery, you can always buy external charging device which provide battery to your Athena. So if you are in the tube or anytime not using your Athena, you can plug it into the external battery device and charge it all the time. This way you will last longer before your battery fully drain.
Hope this helps, and please don't double post again.
wu5262 said:
Firstly, i am tired of you double posting all your question, second, there are lots of solutions, and i have no idea why it takes 4 hours for you to get full charge, it only takes less then 2 hours for me, and how often do you charge your device? if you are a power user, then when do you use your device most often? you see, when i am home or in the office or in the car, i always plug the Athena for charge, can you not do the same? most of us here don't wait for the battery to get fully drain then start charging.
There is no external battery charger right now, (unless you buy another Athena and use that for charging....haha). They will be an official Athena dock which support spare battery charging, GPS for Less site is also offering another Dock which has the same function. However they are both not out yet.
Meanwhile, if you really want to get more battery, you can always buy external charging device which provide battery to your Athena. So if you are in the tube or anytime not using your Athena, you can plug it into the external battery device and charge it all the time. This way you will last longer before your battery fully drain.
Hope this helps, and please don't double post again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im charging with my wall charger and i realy need external battery charger do you know where can i find it? im working on city to city and 4 days of the week im in travel. thats why i need external charger. and if i want to charge my dopod u1000 at anytime without getbattery empty it will hurt my battery life am i correct? and if i go that way every 3-4 weeks i have to order new battery. i love my device as a baby and i dont want to hirt him because of nonesence charging without the battery at low power. i hope you get me. i had o2 xda 2 , xda 2i ( i love this unit ) , xda exec( which the battery life was sucks) , nokia 9500 , nokia 8800 and nokia 8850(which i had for 5 years) i use them in 2 years i already have them and keep them as my baby. and im palnning to buy HTC SHIFT and nokia E90 too. and you said i can buy from htc website and gps for less can you give me website link for both website if i want to buy dock for dopod u1000 or htc x7500.
thank you
thank you
As I know only 2-3 first charges for Li-Ion batteries are critical, those called as "battery training". You should fully discarge and then fully charge 2-3 times for a new battery. After that it doesn't really matter if you charge battery that is not fully discharged. Li-Ion batteries doesn't have a memory effect. Yes, they have limmited number of charge cycles, usially 500-700. In normal use it is good for 1-1.5 years.
So don't worry, charging you battery in a car or at work will not kill it.
Also you can consider external USB batteries like this:
http://www.tangshop.com/universal-external-battery-powerbox.html
those batteries are very handy if you flying often.
Regards,
Dimitriy
Hi Guy I Think You Got Me Wron Im Looking This Kind Of Charger Just Check The Picture. If You Guys Know Where Can I Find This Kind Of External Charger I Will Appreciate It. This Picture Is From Other Pdas Charger But Im Looking This Kind Of Charger For Dopod U1000 Or Htc X7500.
Thank You
emilnaeri said:
Hi Guy I Think You Got Me Wron Im Looking This Kind Of Charger Just Check The Picture. If You Guys Know Where Can I Find This Kind Of External Charger I Will Appreciate It. This Picture Is From Other Pdas Charger But Im Looking This Kind Of Charger For Dopod U1000 Or Htc X7500.
Thank You
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
firstly, we haven't get you wrong, we understand you completely, and no, you will not hurt your battery by charging it all the time, beside, an extra battery does not cost that much as well.
Second, I have already told you clear, there are no external charger for Athena, and for the web link of HTC and GPS FOR LESS dock, please take your own time and google it, it will only take you 2 mins.
Actually, you could find your answer by searching on net, what's what we do here, and it's not our duty to spend this 2 mins to search for you while you can do it yourself, so don't be lazy and start searching!
wu5262 said:
firstly, we haven't get you wrong, we understand you completely, and no, you will not hurt your battery by charging it all the time, beside, an extra battery does not cost that much as well.
Second, I have already told you clear, there are no external charger for Athena, and for the web link of HTC and GPS FOR LESS dock, please take your own time and google it, it will only take you 2 mins.
Actually, you could find your answer by searching on net, what's what we do here, and it's not our duty to spend this 2 mins to search for you while you can do it yourself, so don't be lazy and start searching!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
when i asked you something you can bark for me ok!!!! when you dont know if im searching in internet or not dont come in this forum section and give me bull**** if you think you are senior in xda-developers. know your level and mind your own business.
emilnaeri said:
when i asked you something you can bark for me ok!!!! when you dont know if im searching in internet or not dont come in this forum section and give me bull**** if you think you are senior in xda-developers. know your level and mind your own business.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is just unnecessary. Your question has been answered severeal times. BTW, you could have answered it yourself very easily using that very new concept called Google.
HTC Advantage Docking Station w/2nd Battery Charger
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=145164
Maybe it can be of interest.
apd said:
That is just unnecessary. Your question has been answered severeal times. BTW, you could have answered it yourself very easily using that very new concept called Google.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I second that.
We are all here to help each other, but if you come here with a bad attitude, we will not help you.
Now you can 'bark' for me, whatever that means....
wow, I believe moderators shall stop such posts and lock out people like "emilnaeri"
Isn't there a thread about this already? Started by the SAME person no less... Yipes, and there I was trying to be helpful.. apparently not good enough for this apparently "I'm the center of the world. Look at me I'm yelling all the time in a panic because I think I have a problem."
Clearly, mate, calm down two notches and read through this forum. There are not that many topics about Athena, and most of the trivial things have been covered already.
Check out this link. I bought two to test then bought four more for cars laptops and my travel bag. If you use thier penquin AC/DC charger I get a full charge in under two hours.
http://pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~...2Dn%2Dcharge+cables~item~USB%2DLSPDUO001X.htm
I have also noticed that the battery indicator gets stuck sometimes. If I disconnect the charger then wiat a bit and shut the unit off then on it will register correctly.
The issue with charging off the laptop is that Activesync keeps the device on. When the device is on it switches to high speed mode then it takes MUCH longer to charge.
hammermedia said:
Check out this link. I bought two to test then bought four more for cars laptops and my travel bag. If you use thier penquin AC/DC charger I get a full charge in under two hours.
http://pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~...2Dn%2Dcharge+cables~item~USB%2DLSPDUO001X.htm
I have also noticed that the battery indicator gets stuck sometimes. If I disconnect the charger then wiat a bit and shut the unit off then on it will register correctly.
The issue with charging off the laptop is that Activesync keeps the device on. When the device is on it switches to high speed mode then it takes MUCH longer to charge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm glad I found this post. I noticed this with the device that the battery indicater stays orange (amber ..whatever). I have to continue to check it. After an hour or two...depending on when i started....it will stay amber. If I unplug it and navigate to the Power screen, it will jump to 100%.
Can I fix this? Second, does the advantage only register battery percentage in 10's? i.e. 10% 20% 30%
I did search the forum...but couldnt locate a relative answer to these.
Thanks in advance!
Kenjari said:
I'm glad I found this post. I noticed this with the device that the battery indicater stays orange (amber ..whatever). I have to continue to check it. After an hour or two...depending on when i started....it will stay amber. If I unplug it and navigate to the Power screen, it will jump to 100%.
Can I fix this? Second, does the advantage only register battery percentage in 10's? i.e. 10% 20% 30%
I did search the forum...but couldnt locate a relative answer to these.
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When it is fully charged, it will turn to green.
Affirmative to your second question. It register in 10% increments, AFAIK.
Thanks again eaglesteve!!
Hi all,
It is really exciting to see how a new device's forum gets filled up so quickly . (i'll be getting my device sometime today so I feel like a small kid waiting to go to the candy store hehe)
I did do some reading on http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ and also in different parts of the forum.
But i am not sure how this case fits in all of the battery discussions out there. If am going to drive in the states for 3-5 hours a day where i;ll need to use my phone afterwards to continue my day.
Will keeping the phone plugged in the car charger hurt the battery?
Thanks all.
The best to do in order to increase your battery's life is to let it drop to 5 or 10% then plug it on your car charger.
It will last longer then if you keep it plugged on the charger, that's for sure.
On the other hand, the average life of a battery of this type is between 1 year and 1 year and a half.
Personally I keep a second battery with me all the time.
That's what I used to do with all my previous devices so I never be short of battery
Thanks, then i guess i'll play it safe and recharge when it goes low on juice.
If i dare ask, given the scenario where you disrubt the battery while charging, would it hurt it? I read that it is better to keep it charging once plugged in, but then again this is Li-Ion which should not get hurt if you take it out while charging!
Thanks
Not charging in the car
I noticed that when I have my device pluged into car charger and use it as GPS, it does not charge or loose power. In other words, if it is half-charged when I get into the car, and I drive for 2 hours, it is still half-charged, no more and no less.
What is going all?
Thanks
Fadik said:
but then again this is Li-Ion which should not get hurt if you take it out while charging!
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is correct, but for the good of the battery you need to have it down to 5% (or less) from time to time
michael_r said:
I noticed that when I have my device pluged into car charger and use it as GPS, it does not charge or loose power. In other words, if it is half-charged when I get into the car, and I drive for 2 hours, it is still half-charged, no more and no less.
What is going all?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used to have this behavior with my HTC Athena, but did not see it yet on the blackstone. I'll check in the coming days and will let you know
Hi Fadik,
I'd recommend just using your GPS and charging at the same time. Go with BigDede's advice and let it run down a bit before plugging in. This will help avoid possible overcharging.
Compare this with what most laptops are put through - permanently connected to the charger and hardly ever being used on battery. Our Dell still has more than half its capacity after three years of this. If you are still using your HD in 2 years, give a battery as a birthday present!
I don't know of anything that would damage your phone's battery during normal usage. The main battery killers are deep discharge (protection circuits turn your phone off before this point) and very high temperatures (you weren't going to leave your HD on the dashboard of the car during summer while you shop??). Oh, and the obvious, including blocking your car's wheels on a hill, providing canine nutrition, etc...
Hope this helps...
Thanks all for the feedback and input.
and I guess, I should replace the battery every year and a half
BigDede said:
This is correct, but for the good of the battery you need to have it down to 5% (or less) from time to time
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is a common misinformation.
Do charge the battery often. The battery lasts longer with partial rather than full discharges.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Avoid full cycle because of wear. 80% depth-of-discharge recommended. Re- charge more often. Avoid full discharge. Low voltage may cut off safety circuit
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No maintenance needed. Loses capacity due to aging whether used or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All quotes from this handy table at batteryuniversity.com
So to adress the question of the OP:
Your battery will probably do just fine, as long as the pack itself does not heat up too much from the prolonged charges. The battery it self should be protected from overcharge, and tickle charge should not hurt it.
-KJ
fjevel said:
This is a common misinformation.
-KJ
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can stick with what you found on batteryuniversity.com
Im talking about personal experience here
I got my 2 batteries dead in less then 2 monthes on my HTC Athena
due to charging the device everyday while on 50% or more. (Actually charging it in the car, in the office at home, etc ...)
The 3rd one lasted more then a year when I was letting it drop to around 15 or 20%
Again, this is personal experience
michael_r said:
I noticed that when I have my device pluged into car charger and use it as GPS, it does not charge or loose power. In other words, if it is half-charged when I get into the car, and I drive for 2 hours, it is still half-charged, no more and no less.
What is going all?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had this same thing when charging through the USB port in the car stereo. I had to revert to the dedicated car charger providing power from the cigarette lighter socket to get it to charge.
Hello
I had some trouble in the past, charging an Ipaq in my car.
You have to check how much the device can provide.
I think the wall charger is giving 1A.
On my USB car charger it could output 750mA. Maybe that's enough to maintain battery level in the case of the HD in GPS use.
I'll check.
You can check how much your usb on your car radio/USB can provide.
But I suppose it's 500mA which is the standard level given by a PC.And that may not be enough.
I just sourced a non-SonyEricsson battery for my phone.
It powers the phone fine but when the phone is plugged in for power charging I get an error message saying that the battery in the phone is "Alien" therefore it will not be charged.
I have to charge the battery through a separate charging box
I suppose there is no software fix for this ?
got this when i was using a k610i battery with my xperia but if i recall i restarted the phone and it started working but otherwise i dont know
why would you use a non-SE battery??
Is this it?
orelsi said:
Is this it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lool!!! How amusing
Bought the non-SE battery as it was good value, and slightly more mAh capacity.
orelsi said:
is this it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
omg! Rofl!!11!!1onone
I Just ordered a Mugen batteries, i hope i wont have the same issue.
can you post the information about your batterie?
Here is the battery.
No brand, it is made in Japan.
..........
pokdub said:
Here is the battery.
No brand, it is made in Japan.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i bought three of them when i first got my xperia.
they were all complete crap.
They never gave accurate battery readings and their life time was very very short and at the end of it left my xperia not being able to turn on - now all 3 of them are so discharged i cant even be bothered to charge them - trust me dont rely on these batteries they are awful
orelsi said:
..........
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ever heard Made in Japan "Copy".
hehe.
well just be careful guys with the alien battery. most MADE IN CHINA batteries don't have promissed mAh at all. especialy when cheap. we have a meassuring device in work and evev the 3000something mAh isn't 3000 but just 2500. second, the cheap batteries don't have short circuit protection chip.. so just be careful. mugen may be good, but the 3000mAh they offer isn't simply 3000
Hi,
I've installed WP7 from Yuki/XboxMod but is it possible to use this battery:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/2600ma...tery-battery-cover-case-for-htc-leo-hd2-91228
The biggest one?
Or is it better to buy this 2 pack?:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/replacement-3-7v-1350mah-battery-for-htc-hd2-pair-103568
I need to buy a new one because I can't do one day with it..
I've heard that some rom's does not work with it.
Greetz,
Kevin
I bought similar extended battery, but failed to gain any significant increase in battery life. I am using Xbmod/Yuki BTTF ROM. Even if I charge with external charger, the phone doesn't seem to recognise the extra capacity.
RebelMagpie said:
I bought similar extended battery, but failed to gain any significant increase in battery life. I am using Xbmod/Yuki BTTF ROM. Even if I charge with external charger, the phone doesn't seem to recognise the extra capacity.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, then I'm going to buy the 2 pack normal.
kevinwalter said:
Thanks, then I'm going to buy the 2 pack normal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can use the bigger battey and use an external charger, that will give you a full charge, to use it you just pop the battery out and restart the device when it reports low, that usually works at least it does for mine anyway
course if you got an cradle with external charger then you can buy a couple of batteries an keep some spare
HTC Extended Battery
Hi guys,
I'm planing to install WP7 on my HD2 but I don't know if the original HTC extended battery is supported once I intalled WP7 on it.
I see that you were talking about some others extended batteries but the one made by HTC self. Is it supported?
Thanks in advance
Lucio25m said:
Hi guys,
I'm planing to install WP7 on my HD2 but I don't know if the original HTC extended battery is supported once I intalled WP7 on it.
I see that you were talking about some others extended batteries but the one made by HTC self. Is it supported?
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the genuine HTC HD2 EXTENDED BATTERY, BA E400 2300MAH myself, and use it in substitution with regular battery...
Yes it'll work but your battery status readings will be incorrect i.e. the charge status bar in top right corner. However, the battery will last about twice as long as the stock one, but your batt status would be on low for that matter or as the guy in post somewhere above suggests, you can restart the phone when the indicator is low and get back accurate batt. level reading.
With that being said, EVEN THE GENUINE BATTERY WON'T CHARGE WHEN IT'S IN USE/IN THE PHONE. You're going to need external charger or charge it in Android (dual boot).
Good Luck!
Re : the 2 pack deal with external charger
aM i right in saying they cannot be charged when in use??
Would this have any repercussions with the genuine battery? Ie charging when in use?