8525 - Pocket MSN and Connectivity Problem - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Ok, in addendum to the previous post I had, I had a few problems with my 8525. First was the telnet not accessing, which is since fixed. (zaTelnet CF2 + .NET Framework upgrade). Second was the Bluetooth not responding correctly. After alot of research I found that sending as a beam will after failing to find an IR beam will present you with the option of bluetooth under "Unknown connection". So, those are fixed, which leaves me with:
My pocket msn will sign in, work for about a minute and then stop recieving messages for some reason. Then it'll work again (completely skipping any messages I should have gotten) and then stop completely. I have a feeling this might be due to connectivity to the high speed network. I only say that because I can hop on the internet explorer, browse pages for about a minute and then all the rest become unlocatable. Same way with telnet.
Device Information:
Rom Version 1.34.502.1
Rom Date 09/21/06
Radio Version 1.16.00.00
Protocol Version 32.53.7018.01H
Model Number Herm100 (Hermes 100?)
Platform PocketPC
I just got my phone a few days ago, 2gb MicroSD Card is on its way, and I'm looking to make this a really stable phone, any insight or suggestions that might be able to help are extremely appriciated (Been googling for quite a while on this and can't seem to come up with a definate solution)
Also, I won't be upgrading to the WM6, I don't want to risk bricking my phone as I am too new to changing roms etc (First PDA phone... ever)

*shameless bump*

Well, since noone responded and I have gone and done everything here, it would appear that switching from wap.cingular (Note: Not wap.cingular.com) to isp.cingular (note: not isp.cingular.com) fixed the connectivity problem. Figured I'd post it here incase anyone ran into any problems with their messenger connecting/disconnecting etc etc. Also to note, you would need the pda unlimited if you're going to use isp.cingular or you'll rack up charges fast.

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TCP/IP connection over GPRS stops receiving

I'm having problems with TCP/IP "freezing" with the XDA. What happens is that the XDA stops receiving messages if there's a period of inactivity over the IP connection of about 45 seconds.
The IP connection still works, and I can send messages from the XDA in the other direction, which then "unfreezes" the waiting messages and they then appear at the XDA.
GPRS is still connected throughout.
This happens both with my IP test apps and with MS Messenger. In messenger, if I start a chat with a PC and the person on the PC doesn't type anything for 45 secs, then no further message comes in from the PC until I send a message from the XDA, whereupon I get all the messages they sent to me.
This seems, therefore, to be a bug in the XDA's socket stack.
Is this a known problem and, if so, is there a fix?
I'm running BIOS version 3.12.07 ENG, 08/13/02.
Cheers,
MikeS.
Upgrade your software.
I had the same issue and fixed it by upgrading to 3.16.13 & 3.19.
Thanks bamse - was planning on doing that as soon as I get a smart card reader.
i have various different versions of the radio stack and bios on different devices but none of them are as recent as the versions you mention. can anyone tell me where to get these versions of the bios and radio software? did they come from microsoft or from the device manufacturer, or somewhere else perhaps?
thanks,
nick.
You might want to try this:
http://www.idedata.no/support/support.asp?ID=299
The files seem to be the same for all of the Scandinavian countries (SE/DK/NO), and they work just fine for me in Sweden. I don't know if anyone tried them anywhere else, but I can't see why they wouldn't work.
Thanks!
Not speaking Norwegian I'm not sure exactly what it says, but I already have Radio version 4.08 so I'm not going to change that. Is there a list of the problems that this release fixes that you know of? (There isn't one in the zip file) I'm specifically interested in fixes to the Communication Manager and GPRS connection handling and I don't know whether these would be in the BIOS upgrade or the Radio upgrade. I know that various people have Radio v6.x and ideally i'd like to get hold of this.
Any help you can give is much appreciated,
nick.
4.08 is actually way older than 3.19 (v8 compared to v19). From what I've read on this site, the first digit in the version number is sort of an area code that will differ between different areas rather than different versions. I am not sure the 3.XX would work for you as your original is 4.XX, but I think there has been a discussion about that in another thread.
What it tells you on the Norweigan page is more or less that you have to make the upgrades in the correct order, or they will fail and leave you with a non-working device.
I think the improvements you're looking for are in the radio upgrade, but for a stable device you should probably upgrade both at the same time.
I've also heard that in the UK, the O2 version of the radio stack has been 'optimised' (a moot point, since it doesn't currently work that well) for use over the O2 GPRS network, so I'm thinking it might be wise to wait for the official 4.x release. Unfortunately they're being slow in producing the update and we've got customers complaining about the reliability of the connectivity in our software when it's all down to the flaky radio stack (!)
Thanks for your help,
nick.
Just to update everyone: it was a problem with the radio stack not allocating resource for the return leg.
The problem went away when I installed radio stack 4.20.
MikeS.
GPRS has an issue. The downlink is kept alive by sending packets in hte uplink, and vice versa. So if you are sending downlink UDP data with nothing on the uplink then the GPRS downlink will timeout after 62 seconds.
So if you are coding a video or audio streaming application please send an uplink packet now and then...
(Pay attention Microsoft WMP team)
try this program:
https://www.handango.com/PlatformPr...og=30&txtSearch=gprs&sectionId=0&platformId=2
GPRS socket
Could anyone send me a sample code creating and using socket over GPRS ??
I ve only found how to send HTP request over GPRS in the forum.
I d like to be able to send packets in UDP for a VoIP softphone.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP

Bug / Problem List for the new PPC 2003 ROM

I just want to warn everyone the 2003 rom has many problem, since it is an internal development version. Here is the bugs I found right now.
1.Maybe it's not a "BUG". It miss the Wireless Modem which many people asked for a long time.
2.I tried Windows Media Player and Pocket Music 1.5, both can't turn off the display, which means you have to leave the display on when you listen the music. If any one can turn off the display , please tell us, may be I got some software conflicted.
3. 2 "Power" Logo on the setting menu, but the have different content. It looks like one is the new power setting tab, but it didn't provided some old fuction in the old power setting tab, so O2 kept the old one.
4. The SIM Contacts (Sim utility provided by PPC 2003) is horrible.It has NO fuction except copy the SIM card address to the phone.
5. YOU MUST NOT install Batterypack 2003 on the phone. It looks like working after you install, but your machine will never boot up after a soft-reset except hardreset the phone. (It is PPC 2003 / Battery Pack 2003 problem, not O2 / HTC's fault).
6. You will never know if the current signal support GPRS or not. It will not display the G logo in the "signal bubble".
Please add the list if you got any problem with the new rom.
If the bug I listed can't stop you install the new rom, go ahead :twisted: .
Moreover, it's not an official / final version rom, if you want stable rom, stay with XDA SE 1.1 rom.
Sorry for my horrible english~
1.Maybe it's not a "BUG". It miss the Wireless Modem which many people asked for a long time.
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Not a bug. it was a feature added by xda-developers.
2.I tried Windows Media Player and Pocket Music 1.5, both can't turn off the display, which means you have to leave the display on when you listen the music. If any one can turn off the display , please tell us, may be I got some software conflicted.
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tried it with windows media player and got the same thing. Pocket music 2.0 refuses to work at all
6. You will never know if the current signal support GPRS or not. It will not display the G logo in the "signal bubble".
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when i have grps signal i have G displayed in my bubble.
Alex
kalex said:
1.Maybe it's not a "BUG". It miss the Wireless Modem which many people asked for a long time.
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Not a bug. it was a feature added by xda-developers.
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No, it was added in the new ROMs by Qtek and O2. Whether it's a Microsoft or HTC tool I don't know, but it's definitely not ours...
XDA developer Peter Poelman,
didn't know that. i thought it was urs.
PPC 2003
Hi all
Only autentization to VPN over cetificates is good feature for me.
Another features :?
XDA-dev ROM 1.1 is best solution
It seems the "screen toggle" bug (can't switch off the screen probelm) can be fixed by install the PocketMusic 2.0 Bundle plus the 2.0_4_3 fix.
I can see a hotkey to turrn off display with 2.0 version.
Moreover, the "auto turn off display" fuction still works on the PocketMusic 1.5 Bundle version, and 2.0 too.
It's so strange the PocketMusic 2.0 works but WMP 9.0 doesn't work.
I'm happy with the PPC2003 now. If we have to wait to long beforce the official release, will XDA-Developer release an extra SE version based on the current version of PPC2003?
It still suffers fron some sms issues, i cant get a delivery receipt, and also the time sent stamp is actually the time received.
The auto config does not work, so as a result i can't get gprs working...
(Anyone know the settings for o2 uk ?)
All in all though a good upgrade !!
i loaded the 2003 rom and only have minor issues.
1. when connecting the network says voicestream instead of t-mobile.
2. connection seems slower even with the accelerator proxy turned on. the connection used to be as high as 40k according to spb gprs monitor. now i haven't seen it break 20k.
Unit no longer powers-on when placed in sync cradle; In order to sync the unit I now have to either (a) make sure unit is turned-on before placing it into cradle, or (b) place powered-off unit in cradle, then turn power on.
Not a major issue, but certainly a back-step in functionality. Anyone else notice this?
I'm using a TMobile XDA with updated ATT radio stack and PPC2003.
To Dondi :
I have your issue too, but I didn't think it is a problem for me, since I hate the machine suddenly power on itself when I am charging it.
i guess it s even better for the screen not to be lighted all the time when plugged on the cradle
Hey all. I just installed WM2003 PE. It looks and feels great. I only have the following comments:
I have installed the ROM on my Qtek 1010.
1. I can't seem to see any MIDI ringtone support on this one (probably because it's not a final release)
2. I'm still running on my old Radio Version 3.23 and my GPRS resumes connection seamlessly after calls - which is great.
3. I've read somewhere that applications will be visible on the 'taskbar' when running, but do not get this functionality also. No worries on this though, because 'Switch' works fine with WM2003.
4. Still no ability to add custom Operator Logos.
5. Hooray for the 'Busy' tone and indication!
SPB GPRS Monitor works fine with 2003. I also wanted to know from the rest of you guys: Do you have to manually initiate GPRS connectivity after a soft-reset? Or does it pick up your default connection and auto-connect?
To killercheung and Cyberb0b: You've given me a new perspective on the XDA not automatically switching on when placed in the cradle in the off state -- I appreciate the benefits you pointed out.
Also, I did notice that when I initially loaded the Ozone beta (prior to upgrading radio stack) the GPRS symbol was being displayed regularlyand I had no problem connecting with GPRS and getting decent performance (> 20 Kbps). However, after I convinced myself to "go all the way" and also perform the Radio Stack update, I now rarely see the GPRS symbol, and GPRS perfirmance has dropped to the 1Kbps level.
Now I wonder if Ozone also updated the radio (which I perhaps subsequently "downgraded" by loading the ATT RSU). Can anyone shed some light on this?
for what i ve seen Ozone does not modifiy the radio stack, you have to upgrade it yourself useing for exemple the O2 upgrade version 4.21.
As far as i m concern using GPRS in France with Orange as operator with SE 1.1 or with ozone i have the same brandwith capacity depending on the network trafic and my position, between 10 and 30 Kbps, i use SPB GPRS manager to monitor my connexion 24/7 and see what is my data consumption day by day (it also allow me to shut GPRS off without switching the phone off).
by now using ppc2003 for about a week, i have no gprs shut down, except going out of coverage area, we poor french are not full gprs anywhere, but it works pretty good in cities.
on thing i ve notices that i guess is significant :
however it is said that Gprs connexion isn t dropped any more when an incoming CSD call start, that is true but the transmissions are stopped.
I mean i can not send or recieve data while talking on the phone line. But this is not due to the software i guess it is due to the number of channels aviable on the device usually it s 4 + 1 or 4 + 2
whereas phones like SE P800 have 6 + 4 channels allowing the to really exchange data while using CSD channel.
But nevertheless it is a good upgrade cause i do not have to kill my irc session while talking on the phone (just have to hang up fast before the irc timesout ) ).

** Updated Jam now ignores Spectec - HELP **

OK, someone please give me a hand with this one.
I'm far from a noob with this PPC stuff, and I've played around alot, but this one's got me stumped. If there is a simple fix, I'll go to the nearest brick wall and ...........
OK, I have the 128Meg Jam (US version) and I finally decided to upgrade to the lastest i-mate offerings of their ROM update called...
JAM_USA_11200_188_11210_ship.exe
The upgrade went smooth/perfect without any hitches and or hangs. Whew! So next was the daunting task of installing all my apps, games, emulators, etc...
So before I got in too deep, I did a soft reset, and deleted the ROM installed Skype (installing a newer version later) and deleted the AntiVirus software also.
Soft reset was next.
Then downloaded the latest drivers for my SPECTEC SDW-820 Wi-Fi card, both the Canada version 1.25 and the US version 1.25.3 (same version as the WM 5.0).
NOW... Guess what?!?
Up till this upgrade, my SPECTEC rocked with FAST X-Fer speeds, both up and down! I loved it and used it alot!
Now the damn JAM/SPECTEC combo sees a signal, grabs the signal, and tells me it's "connected", but yet the Wi-Fi icon at the top does the "searching" animation. When I click on the icon at the top, it says...
"No modem at above number. To check your connection settings and change them if neeed, tap Settings".
It's looking for a GPRS signal!
When connected to my PC via ActiveSync, I can use the internet with/without setting up any "Rogers" settings.
I've done soft resets, hard resets, re-installs, etc... EVEN a "hacked" E300 Wi-Fi driver from another chap (ampda) and a Wi-Fi companion, and still the same results... Sees signals, "says" it's connected, but IE, MSN, etc. don't work!!
If ANYONE has a fix for this, or has experienced this, please help me out! I LOVE my JAM, and it's to me the perfect little do-it-all, but I'm soon approaching this "Can Jam's fly" theory!
Talked with Chris and Impact Wireless, and contacting others... Everyone is stumped, but it seems to be the "newest" ROM offering.
Awaiting help,
Rick.
ROM version: 1.12.00 WWE
ROM date: 05/28/05
Radio versoin: 1.12.10
Protocol version: 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.12.188 WWE
Im getting a similar error with mine atm, im going to be backing up and performing a hard reset in the next day or so...will keep you in formed.
Im currently on 1.06 again (long story) and it has suddenly "stopped working"
I think its a application i have installed that may have caused it.
Imp
OK...
AFAIK, most of the things you have mentioned are a settings problems if I'm not mistaken...
I mean in many cases you can connect your PDA to the internet using Active-Sync but applications like IE or MSN messenger won't work... all you have to do is to go to
Start>Settings>Connection:then Tab connections and manage your connection in order your desired application will get the right settings.. you may also edit the advanced settings as well ( select Networks )
Another thing you can do is to go to
Start>Settings>Connection: Network Cards.. and choose the right card and the right option (work or the internet)
In most cases... if you edit your connections settings, things will work for you... for instance you can delete ( temporarily) the GPRS setting for your JAM, so when you use you WiFi card... it will be the only option....
I know this sound weired, but I have tested it before, I used to do a lot of internet via BT or cable + Active-Sync but after I did a ROM upgrade.. things did not work... all you have to do is to tweak the settings a bit, and I guess you have the same problem, because you say you get connected... so this is just a matter of settings IMHO
Another thing, I think you can try older drivers for your card... it might work
I hope things will work for you
cheers :wink:
Well, I got it working! FINALLY!
Bye.
.................. LOL! Ok, Ok, here's how I fixed it.
I really don't know how!
I went to Wireless Wave in one of our malls here, and the store manager let me take one his new Audiovox PPC6600's up to the food court where I know there is an open HotSpot.
So I installed the latest SPECTEC SDW-820 v1.25.3 drivers, and did a soft reset, popped in the card, launched the W-Lan utility, and would you believe, it worked like a champ, right off the bat! With the settings at stock. I didn't have to change anything to "Work", and it worked perfectly.
So......
I brought it back, and went back for the real test now that I know that my Wi-Fi card is fine. So, same thing, did an installed, soft reset, popped in the card, and again, it worked perfectly!!
So, I'm wondering in all of this, if for some bizarre reason, that the "contacts" might have maybe been dirty?!? I really am not too sure, however, I am taking this moment to thank all that have been patient and helpful with this issue. My JAM doesn't need flying lessons now. LOL
Rick.
P.S. Wi-Fi worked at "The Internet" settings, as well as "Work" settings. It just automatically decides to go to the Wi-Fi card when it's in place. Neat!
P.P.S Can surf the internet using PIE and use MSN on the JAM while activesynced. No Wi-Fi card installed, and GPRS off. Using ActiveSync v3.8

Activesync error 0x80070008

I use activesync with an exchange server in real time to sync my emails:
I have a major problem with this sync error (0x80070008) constantly coming up on my Cingular 8525. My device will get this error 2-3 times a day during heavy use and it is causing me a lot of heartache. It is true that you can just do a soft reset and then the activesync works again....HOWEVER, there are some times where I do a tremendous amount of work moving emails around and sending replies etc.....then I get the error and do soft reset and lose all that work. It is a major annoyance and it is causing me to rely less and less on my device for email work. I don't want that to be the case because I love this thing and I don't want this to get in the way.
I can only say one more piece of info that may or may not be a real association - This error happens often when I'm on the subway and I have no service I do a lot of work on the device....and when I get out and try to sync this error is very common. This is not the only time it happens, but, its a frequent one.
It surprises me that this is not plaguing others besides me. I hope that someone out there can give me a real fix to this nightmare.
Thanks,
Ezra
Which ROM you are working with?
Rom version: 1.34.502.1
ROM date: 09/21/06
Radio version: 1.16.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.53.7018.01H
I dont know if its the same problem or not, but I used to get something similar when i lost service...not able to connect back up to the data network.
I just went into comm manager and turned the phone off and back on...no soft reset...no lost data.
First Post, not a real fix, but maybe a workaround.
dkm00182 said:
I dont know if its the same problem or not, but I used to get something similar when i lost service...not able to connect back up to the data network.
I just went into comm manager and turned the phone off and back on...no soft reset...no lost data.
First Post, not a real fix, but maybe a workaround.
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Unfortunately this isn't a data connection problem. I am able to browse the web when this error occurs but not sync. I've seen it mentioned somewhere that this is some kind of memory leak problem....I don't know.
Ezra
edited error code
Sorry I had to edit the main thread subject because I wrote the error code incorrectly.
ezra
bump. PLease, someone help me with this. I cannot stand it anymore.
here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=264531&page=2
indicated the same problem with same activity, agressively moving emails around through your subfolders might be a significant cause, perhaps due to the sync process, and trying to keep up with you.
especially if you are loosing a connnection back to the server due to your circumstances, it is perhaps trying to queue the number of changes and trying to keep up. new technology probably is perhaps lacking a bit of thought in the process.
just my two bobs worth, and you get your bump anyway.
A quick google shows
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/mis.htm
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/exchange_errors.php?sort=WM_5_Error desc
http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/...SupportKB,ts=Palm_External2001,Case=obj(41820)
The implied advice from the last one is dont manually sync if you have an automatic sync set up
The same problem with Kaisar Rom wm6.1
Hi,
I have the same problem with kaisar after upgrading to WM6.1. I have many subfolders (over 50). Any solution to the problem?
Thanks
I got that error after something happened to the AS file on my pc. The Hermes tried to find the file but as it was missing it couldn't. Only solution was to delete the sync relationship and start again. Had all my contacts backed up as a precaution because you loose them all if you delete both sync folders - on pc and hermes...
Cheers...
Syncing too many folders causes error
I get that same error with my Touch, whenever I have too many (more than 20 or so) folders setup to synchronize. What's really annoying is that with WM 6.0 I could sync up to about 40, but with 6.1 I can do only half as many.
So far I am at a complete loss as to the cause.
maybe this guy is up to something that would help us
http://forums.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/ShowPost.aspx?siteid=65&postid=3972758
I started getting this error on my HTC Touch Pro when I decided to sync my appointments for the previous month instead of the previous two weeks. I was using ActiveSync through bluetooth. I didn't have any problems syncing until I made that change.
I decided to sync it through the USB cable instead and it sync'd without any errors. My guess is that the bluetooth connection was too slow to sync the larger amount of data.
kevino said:
A quick google shows
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/mis.htm
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/exchange_errors.php?sort=WM_5_Error desc
http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/...SupportKB,ts=Palm_External2001,Case=obj(41820)
The implied advice from the last one is dont manually sync if you have an automatic sync set up
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Not true..
I went from a stock rom to the evolution rom.
When i trie to sync it gives me the error.
What should mean that it is out of memory.

Wifi to GPRS/3G

I have searched this and other forums and have not seen either this problem or an answer to it. Per AT&T's suggestion, I just upgraded to the new AT&T rom version that adds PTT and seems to have big problems. My current issue is that when I first boot up and connect via GPRS/3G all works well. When I get to a wifi area and switch to wifi, again all works well. However when I leave the wifi area (or just turn off wifi) I can't get any data via GPRS/3G. The balloon comes up saying it is connecting. The little "G" and bidirectional arrows in the top left indicate it is connected. However in the browser, it just continues to grind away with "Locating" in the bottom right corner until it finally times out and puts up a screen that says that the "page cannot be displayed because the connection was lost". I open the connection manager and press and hold the "Data Connection" icon until that goes off and try again, same problem. The only way I can get GPRS/3G data connection to actually work again is to reboot. Any ideas what is going on or how this can be fixed? Forgot to add that this is an HTC 8525. Thanks.
From your description I wasn't able determine whether AT&T's suggestion was aimed at remedying the issue, or if it's something that came about with the update.
Assuming the latter, you may want to try a hard reset first and run it for a bit before loading any other apps. Failing that, reflash the ROM. I had a lot of trouble with my radio when my 8525 was new, but it mysteriously cleared up after a few radio flashes.
Thanks but still a problem
Thanks for your thoughts here. I hard reset and reflashed.
Yes the firmware is the latest one that AT&T has suggested that everyone who had the older Cingular phones upgrade to. It provides the AT&T logo, the "push to talk" feature, and some other junk. I have contacted AT&T about this and their response was to send me a new phone that they claimed had the old firmware, since they have been getting a lot of complaints about the new firmware. It didn't have the old firmware and also it's SIM card reader appears to be broken. I called HTC and they said that they too have had lots of complaints about the new firmware quirks but had nothing to offer to solve them. Anyway, the old firmware had no problem switching between wifi and CGRS so I don't think it is in the hardware. On the other hand I'm surprised that nobody else is encountering the problem from the upgrade.
I'm having the same prob. Purchase three of these phones and the other users have little technical expertise. First I set up a sync with my office PC. Then loaded the ROM update. I run MAC's @ home had difficulty connecting to my home wifi. Finally determined that the 8525 would not accept the 13 key ASCII wep password. Needed to use the HEX. So I connected. Went to work and had problems syncing with my PC. Active sync had to rediscover the device. Now I'm back home and can't connect again. My Device ID changed names upon "resyncing" and I updated the Airport Base Station with my new name. I've spent a lot of time on this issue.. Maybe I need to send em back for an iPhone!
Well I found a solution to it
This is a great forum - though somewhat hard to search through thoroughly. Anyway the solution for me was to go back to ROM 1.34. Found how to do that through flashing from the micro card at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311704&highlight=cingular+8525+rom+version and getting the production ROM version at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades. Back to normal - everything works fine. Just for a trial, I also downloaded ROM V2.1.1 and it works find also - but sure seems a bit large - ends up with 42.9M of storage free vs V1.34 that has 50.25. Think I'll try the the memory expansion process at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298327&highlight=want+more+storage. That seems to at least provide a more than 9 megabyte smaller MBH file but I don't know what that translates to in memory usage yet.
Suspect there is a way to fix this problem but I haven't seen anything in the forums on it.

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